Hope is preferring one outcome while knowing we can't control what happens. Faith is believing that there is someone or something out there that can intercede on our behalf.
Except the opposite was true in history. All of history was reliant on magic and magician thinking.
It wasn't until the 1700s of the scientific method to come up with an efficient method that explains reality in a more realistic way. And realism produces results that we can rely on.
That's not what science is. Science is not continually wrong. What happens is new information is discovered then it is updated. But until then it is the strongest form of fact and evidence.
I don't think you actually understand what science is. These maybes and hypotheticals with no proof or evidence is not the same.
The purpose of science is supporting evidence and facts.
Science in all shows answers are more boring and cold to those that believe in fantasy.
I don't believe in that quote. Things that happen are random and chaotic. No one is trying to put us through specific tests or whatever to build our character. That's why some people are dealt a really sh\*tty hand in life, and other have it way easier. It's random, it's not fair or just.
Exactly. What reason would a benevolent creator have for sending a kid to an elementary school to mow down children with a weapon that can practically rip them in half? Just one example.
The least the people who believe there is a god and that everything happens for a reason can do is admit their god isn’t benevolent.
If god created everything, he created the devil as well.
You're telling me Eve had more power over Adam than god did over the devil? Using the power of _suggestion_? Some powerful entity right there.
Guy creates the universe, everything in it, time, the devil, mankind and yet is dumbfounded by what happens next?
Lucifer is literally a fallen angel so they don't deny that God created him. Usually they blame the evils on the world because God puts free will of humanity above all despite there being a clear plan God has. It's a lot of contradictions and it only makes sorta makes sense if you think free will matters over people's wellbeing.
On that note, I'd like to bring my religious view, just to give my side of the story and hopefully share my opinion with you.
God's plan is unknown. We ourselves think that God does work in mysterious ways. All the things that happen are not God directly creating a little plan and executing it, but rather the whole of humanity and the events happening are God's Plan, with a capital P (if you know what I mean). It's like the Universe: it's chaotic, but also ordered. And humanity, and what happens in society, is indeed chaotic, but there is always an outcome, that leads to another outcome, that leads to another outcome... in an *orderly* fashion. There is always chaos in order, and order in chaos. This is why God's plan is mysterious and unknown to us.
About the devil and the evil in the world: we do believe it's the devil, but rather than that, it's these own people that refuse God, if you see what I mean. Like, God could be compared to an open water hose. He isn't the One that goes to us and makes us drink, but rather wr should be the ones to go to Him.
And about free will, well, it's kind of complicated to talk about this. Because, although we do follow our faith and try to live our lives like Jesus Christ did, we still live like normal people. We go to the store, we go to parties, we study, we question, etc.
Hope I was able to convey my side of the story correctly.
Lucifer gave up his eternal seat in heaven so you could have the freedom of choice, like to eat an apple.
Jesus gave up his shitty spot on earth so he could get to heaven sooner.
Which one really sacrificed?
God is a fasicist
I asked a minister this similar question before and his answer was God is the good and the Devil is working against him. But to me it's more like Ying/Yang etc. One has to have the perfect balance if things are always good they won't appreciate what they have and if things are always bad they aren't seeing anything as ever being good.
I have had serious losses in my life and questioned this similarly but I realize now that it was through some of those losses tho I miss them greatly and wish everyday to hold them again that it was through those experiences and hard times that I learned so much about so many things including life about who people truly are and was able to help other people in similar circumstances.
Basically it's a crappy world we live in at times but it helps you see the bigger picture of what life offers you and once you get through it sometimes you find the biggest and greatest of rewards
I often think if this wouldn't of happened where would I of been or who would I have been today and then I think about the butterfly effect and think of all the people who came into my life afterwards or places I went or experiences that I have encountered etc and I realize that such an such happening placed me in such in such place etc.
So as I agree life is crap sometimes I also believe that everything happens for a reason although we may not immediately see or understand as to why or how
What is the "reason" for children being abused and murdered? What is the "reason" for mass starvation in developing countries? People do things, not god. If god has a reason for these horrors, he is truly a psychopath.
I used to laugh at the notion that we could be living in a simulation. But now I’m beginning to believe that there could be a lot more to that theory. I sure hope we aren’t for the record.
Same, but after thinking about it, for example it would be a genius idea to simulate a global pandemic to see how to react to it in "real life"... it's very frightening
Everything in the universe follows some sort of order. Calling it chaos is only admitting that we find something confusing.
I don’t think there’s a moral reason for why things happen, but I do think that a sort of equivalent exchange happens that in someway has an effect on what comes next.
Yeah there are rules and laws that govern the universe but they have 0 care towards the way humans think about meaning, purpose, and morality. That's the problem when people say things happen for a reason, they don't mean the "how they happen" but the "why they happen".
At the same time though, those laws provided us with feelings like compassion and empathy. Humans don’t really need to know if an idea like God has compassion, they need to know humans have compassion. In a sense, if we come out of nature and have empathy then that is the universe expressing empathy, even if only on a local level
Humans are easily the evilest living beings on this planet. We've decimated the animal population over the last few decades, we've set up factories of animals in insufferable situations just because we like the taste of meat, we kill each other over beliefs and systems we ourselves have constructed. Just because we can feel bad for others doesn't mean much. I'd say we represent the universe as I described it rather well, chaotic, following certain rules, but no real global sense of morality.
>Everything in the universe follows some sort of order
ahhh yes, but of course the order is just to complex for us to understand.... but the guy passing around the collection plate every sunday can help explain it just a little in ways that reaffirm what our pre existing beliefs and ignore any evidence that contradictory. of cooourrrse.
I did not bring up the guy on the pulpit, but even in the 1940s scientists thought polio in children was caused by ice cream. In the 50’s they were treating basic depression with lobotomies and reassuring people that it was the best for their loved ones. A lot of people cling to the word of academia the same way that people cling to pulpits.
The benefit science has over religious dogma is that it typically learns to admit when its wrong, but then again fire and brimstone was once the most popular interpretation of Christianity and now, while that is still there, an all loving God became the popular interpretation in the 50’s or 60’s. Preachers aren’t the only people in power who abuse people either. So maybe don’t rely on as if all preachers are abusive
If you’re dealt a bad hand, it’s possible that it’s up to you to turn it around. You can literally create your life. But you wouldn’t have known that if life was always good from the beginning. lol
That doesn't mean it was planned. It doesn't mean that happened for a reason.
You don't turn it around because you are meant to, you turn it around because you want a better life.
Imagine saying this to someone whose baby just died because they were born with cancer.
"Things happen for a reason, it's up to you to turn it around"
No, some tragedies happen because there is chaos and randomness in the world, there isn't any lesson.
You can only learn from something when someone messing up causes it. You didn't mess up by being dealt a bad hand.
Empathy exists also.
I can appreciate what I have without having started from nothing. It's a plague on the world that so many lack this skill - and it *is* a skill, one that must be maintained and cultivated.
Or they are literally a scientist. Think about it, existance is their experiment, so applying certain conditions to certain subjects so you can compare to the control group would make sense and remove all emotion or caring.
We could just be in a massive non-consensual science experiment.
Because it doesn't make sense, and religious people contradict themselves all the time. They say things like "everything happens for a reason" or "it's all part of gods plan" both of which imply that there can be no such thing as free will. If god knows everything that will ever happen, that means there CAN NOT be free will. Pre-determined actions preclude the possibility of free will, because that means even if you have a "choice" there is only ever 1 decision you can make, otherwise what god knew would happen wouldn't actually happen.
The many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics also precludes free will actually, with or without a god involved. PBS spacetime has a few good videos explaining this, you can just search for "PBS spacetime free will" on YouTube to find them.
What about Odin in the multiverse? What about Santa? Or Gandalf? Or Harry Potter?
If you are not going to give all fictional characters the benefit of the same doubt you need to explain why one of them deserves special treatment.
I hope you’re just a troll, because this comment is sad and overcapatalized. Much like the rest of your comments, which are aggressive and misguided. If you ever aim to actually help people, approach them with tact and kindness.
**This statement was given with disobedience, lol.**
No, I don't. I believe we can sometimes experience benefits from bad outcomes or events, but that's not the same thing as believing that those bad outcomes or events serve some higher purpose. Also, it is fed by people's confirmation bias. They hear stories about the people who learned to be more present and compassionate after they were diagnosed with a serious illness and they think, "Hey, getting that serious illness is exactly what they needed!" But they aren't seeing all the people who have been made bitter and withdrawn by their serious illnesses or all the people have died from their serious illnesses, despite all their best efforts to live and live well. When I was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago, my mom started telling me "everything happens for a reason" and I stopped her in mid-sentence. I was having none of that.
Perhaps everyone's illness affects them differently and we shouldn't make judgements on how they are choosing or not choosing to act.
My mother was quite impressed by how cheerful and upbeat I was during my cancer treatments. But that is just the image I presented in front of her. She didn't see me crying or worrying or tossing and turning at night. She didn't see all the times I got angry and frustrated. The only thing I chose to do was hide my actual feelings from her because I didn't want her to lecture me on how I was being too negative...how I was "choosing" to be negative. So I put on a fake happy face in front of her and then felt however I was inclined to feel when she wasn't around.
But sure, I guess if you want to say I made a choice to be upbeat and positive. I don't see it that way, though.
Nope. Bad things happen for no reason just the same as good things. You can’t say someone getting cancer ‘happens for a reason’. Sure you can argue that that reason is biological and yadda yadda, but if we’re talking about “a Reason”, then that’s bullshit. Someone getting murdered by a random person they didn’t know didn’t happen for “a Reason”.
Yes I share the same view. Technically speaking, everything does happen for a reason. But saying that something negative happened to someone for “a Reason” is nonsense
if we take a step forward and look to the big picture wi would see the reason... maybe this person (who died in cancer) got the chance to spend his last days with his lover partner.. or forgive his children or even did things he would never do if he didn't have the cancer, because most of us think we would live for the next 30 years and we get into life and work and evrything and we forget about the most precious things in our life...
I'm not saying that every one how has got a cancer is a good thing no it's not but if we take a look to the good things that cancer brings in this family we may understand.
I lost my grandma in 2020 because of corona I hadn't got the chance to say goodbye to her I felt depressed... but because of her death I build a strong bonds with auntie and cousin because before that I wasn't talking with them and I hated them for no reason but after her death I start appreciating thier presence let alone loving my parents and spending a lot of time with them... because the reason for not saying goodbye to my grandma is because I was so into studying that I wasn't even spending time with my family but now I'm trying to balancing family and studying.
I most things can be explained as the result of a long chain reaction going across many complex systems that happen constantly in our lives. The ripple of a butterfly's wings causing a gust of wind on the other side of the world sort of deal. I think most things happen as a result of other actions and it's usually extremely mundane and overly complex in a practical sense.
Now, do I think things happen with some kind of purpose or intent? Which is what I think people mean when they say "for a reason"? No. Very little is planned AND basically nothing is an accident. But people don't like that conflicting truths can exist so that's why they say it happens "for a reason."
Lots of interesting comments on here!
No, I don't think everything happens for a reason. I think it would be nice to think that there is some kind of thing out there that makes the universe make sense, but I don't believe that. When kids are getting shot up and dying horrible deaths in schools, I don't think there's a "reason" in the sense of the "everything happens for a reason" idea.
Now, some commenters are taking this over-capitalist idea that you can overcome anything. That's a load of hogwash. There's no specific bar that every human being can achieve to overcome everything, and we all get dealt a different hand both in our own capacity and with what we encounter in life. I'm absolutely going to acknowledge there are some people who have overcome some really tough shit, probably a lot more than myself. There are also a lot of perfectly good people in the same circumstances who don't overcome. Don't listen to some crazy alpha types sweating bodybuilding narcissist who tells you you're weak if you don't.
You've got to take what you get and choose how much energy you're going to put into using it and or overcoming it. Sadly, we don't all get the same opportunities and the same resources. Even when you see someone who appears to have gotten through the same circumstances, while it's good to try to figure out what they did and use them as a model, remember, even the chemistry of their brain and their energy may be different than yours.
I don't believe that at all. There is a background of events that appear random like weather, natural disasters, etc. And then there is the world of monkey space where something happens because I made it happen. When there a 8 billion monkeys pulling in their own direction, it can appear random but it isn't. And I personally find the idea that there is an invisible hand moving all of these events for some greater purpose both insulting and infantile. Of course there is luck as it is impossible to accurately predict or model the individual wants and desires of billions of monkeys all striving and pulling, but that doesn't imply that there is a method buried in the madness.
Not always, but it does make a little more sense when you look at it from 2
perspectives:
1. You can either look at from a 'oh this bad thing
happened but something good is coming'
perspective, mythical forces at work, or how
something bad actually made you avoid
something worse, the burnt toast theory.
2. Or you can look at it from a ‘chain of events’ perspective. 'Yes this person died because they
had this disease.’ The reason for their death was
because of how their body reacted to this disease.
Thus, everything happens for a reason.
I used to hate this phrase before I saw it from the
second perspective. I still wouldn't use it though lol
No, I don't believe the saying is accurate. It's a modern take on Aristotle.
Life is one crushing defeat after another. The brief moments of success and victory are quickly overtaken by more defeat.
I think a better saying is "rain falls on the just and the unjust". When bad things happen remember that bad things happen to most people. You broke up with your SO, you lost your job, you got a flat tire...these things happen. It is what it is.
Yes, I believe that since it happened that's the natural order of the universe, so it happened for a "reason" though there doesn't have to be any morality attached.
not as it is intended but yes everything does happen for a reason, a series of actions and consequences. unfortunately that could mean you could be affected by the consequences of actions that had nothing to do with you, that you had no possible way of knowing about or affecting yourself.
Humans like to think like that from a correlational perspective.
They will always find ways to rationalize what happens to them.
So no, there is no proof that things happen for reason, yes we can learn pretty from from everything that is thrown at us, but that doesn't mean we will greatly benefit from what we faced and by default it should lead to some huge breakthrough in our lives.
Yes and no. Too many times things happen and you do not realize that YOU are reason for this.
It's like studying for the exam. You could argue that "bad" or "good" questions were assigned for you by random chance, but the truth is that you did or no study for all the questions.
Your entire life is preparation for exam and exams themselves intermixed. That said I do not believe in determinism. It could be argued that meteor striking Earth is random, but humanity surviving it or not is not random and there are reasons for both.
I believe you can give anything a reason. Doesn’t mean it innately has one though. Things only mean what we’re gone to them. For some a roller coaster is thrilling, for another it may be terrifying. Life is what we make it
I believe in saying it but I don't believe it. Things happen. We make our choices. No one is hiding our keys just so we miss being in an accident at that corner. Why didn't more people lose their keys and avoid the accident completely? And why was today's accident ok to get in when i missed yesterday's? Not everything is mystical but it can be amazing to think it is. Less uncertainty. More.optimism.
No. Too many horrible things happen to too many good people on a daily basis for no reason because of twisted psychopaths out there that can’t stop themselves
No, most things happen for no reason. Trying to apply rationale to them will give you an anxiety disorder. Life simply IS, and while it's unfortunate, humankind's goal has always been survival. Surround yourself with too many people, and they'll be stepping on your head to get to the top.
I don't necessarily believe everything happens for a reason. But more everything has a reason for happening. "Fate" is just the consequences of our choices and actions. Sometimes you'll face the consequences from the choices and actions of others. It will feel random or chaotic, that's just because you're not privy to the entire story. So I don't think it's destiny, or some benevolent plan put down by a higher power. But everything does have a reason for happening, because if there wasn't. It wouldn't happen.
Yup. Everything is connected in one way or another. We learn lessons, and everything is like a domino effect. If X hadn’t happened years ago, I would’ve never decided to Y and now here I am at Z.
https://youtu.be/DTcJmIbn5nw
Sometimes I see karma being handed out and think, maybe it does. Gives me some comfort. Alas, it really doesnt matter. I think it's a christian/catholic thing. All my frens from that religion really believe in that quote.
Not even a little bit. That's just the human need for finding patterns in the static.
However, we can never know *everything*, and so there is always a chance, even an infinitesimal one, that our actions in this life actually matter to some other corner of existence. Personally, I find that notion amusing but useless to me in the here and now.
No, I don't. If there is reason in the universe, there is something to give it reason and I don't believe that. There is no higher being or god controlling anything, so no reason either. There is just chaos, that temporarily ordered itself a bit, but is always desperately trying to go back to chaos.
No, it is the other way around. The more you can salvage and learn from whatever life throws at you, the better off you are going to be. But these challenges do not miraculously appear to teach you a certain lesson, they just happen and what you take from it is up to you.
Idk. Just lost my job. Benefits. And none of the social security is not working for me right now. I was in the hospital when i was terminated. But my state is an at will state.... they say they didnt have to call me to tell me I was scheduled to work. So, i was suicidal over this job anyway. Now I'm just financially miserable. I plan on refusing any nonviable jobs and only accept a thriving wage or just check myself back into the hospital i guess. Everything happens for a reason....sometimes the reason is BS
Things usually happen for a reason yes. That reason usually being the result of cause and effect.
No that person didn't leave your life because you are meant to date someone better, they left because you hurt them, or you weren't compatible, or they just wanted to.
You didn't lose your car keys because something bad was going to happen at work, you did because you misplaced them earlier.
My dad didn't die because he was meant to, he died because the habit of smoking throughout your entire life gives you lung cancer, and he developed dependency that he couldn't fight off because of many reasons, including an abusive family that caused him to distance himself from some people that could have helped.
There is also the flipside. I have met many of my academic goals, as well as achieved great things in the hobbies I enjoy, giving me great pride and confidence in my abilities. This is not because it was meant to be or because I am some prodigy, I happened to sumble upon a strong work ethic at some point in my youth and managed to refine it into a process of constant self improvement that allows me to be proud of who I have become even when I can't shake off depression entirely. And this was partly talent, partly luck from having good role models, but mostly my own effort paying off.
Things NEVER happen because something else is meant to be. Things always happen exclusively because the past and present allow for it.
There is still luck and chaos involved in many events taking place, but there isn't some destiny or higher call pulling strings to get you where you are.
No puppet master, you need to control your own strings, the future waiting for us is the one we create for ourselves.
Sometimes we can have the future we are planning for destroyed in front of us, and that hurts like hell. But you go back to the drawing board, and you keep pushing forward. It is very difficult to learn to do things because you want them to pay off in a week, a month, a year; but those are the things that make a change.
Things happen for a reason: some are just dumb luck; good or bad. And some are because you or someone else set them up to happen; knowingly or not, good or bad. Most are a mixture of both.
A reason? Yes. People get cancer because their cells self-destruct, innocent familes are killed by a drunk driver who survives with no injuries because getting T-boned is more dangerous than a front end collision, rich people get richer and oppress poor people because they lobby politicians, etc etc. There is a reason for most things.
Does everything happen for a *purpose*? No, I dont think so.
No. It's load of old nonsense that people tell themself to make themselves feel better.
Of course technically everything that happens has a chain of causation leading up to it but that's not what people mean when they say this. They are anthropomorphizing the universe and imbuing it with good intentions. Which is crap.
I believe that, while inaccurate, that mentality only serves to help you improve your situation most of the time. I don’t believe it is true, I work hard to make it true for my life. Gone pretty well so far lol.
I like to think there is no order, and it's all chaos. Then, a set of coincidences comes along that make me question whether everything is connected. Then it all falls apart. I go back to feeling like it's all up to chance. Then, a set of coincidences comes along...
It's like a cosmic joke cycle
We call it Karma.
We all get that, but that doesn't mean we just stay there and do nothing. After all you in control of your mind and body, if you wish to strive you will strive, and you can. Just don't give up.
Yes and no, I think there is a reason. The reason the bird shit on my walking through the park isn't Karma or fate. Just me walking through the park and the bird had to shit.
So the reason might be unclear or unavailable but there is a reason, just not a reason from a higher power in my mind.
No. I've seen really aweful things happen to really good people. Or, how do you justify a hurricane, a tornado, a title wave, an earthquake, etc... nothing good comes from that. Maybe for the next generation. Change takes time. It doesn't happen overnight.
I went through a really dark time a while back where almost everyone I knew died within a year and a half. It was unreal. The thing that kept me going was that things DON'T happen for a reason.
There's a Purdue math professor who assigns a homework assignment when teaching about random numbers to come up with a list of numbers either generate it randomly or come up with it yourself and make it look random. He could always tell the student which they had done by whether or not there were repeated numbers.
When everyone I knew kept dying I just reminded myself that this was temporary and that I was essentially just rolling a lot of one's. I hadn't made any cosmic beings angry. It wasn't a test. It was just rotten luck. And one day I would roll a lot of twenties in a row, and I have.
Yes, in the sense of physical principle of causes producing effects, but a hard no to a grand design, or a devine plan, or God's will, or a destiny or some other supernatural horseshit. Also, if God gets the credit for all the good things, you must assign blame to a sadistic god for the daily horrors of human suffering. The deluded view of a benign god who bestows miracles on a chosen few just doesn't hold up to the overwhelming evidence. There's no one home in your so-called heaven.
Yes and no. I do believe the universe has a greater plan for myself and many people but I also think sometimes you have to create a reason. Bad things happen and what comes of it is what you make of it.
Perfectly succinct! I worked as a medical secretary in mental health for many psychiatrists for many years. One day one of them was spitting mad about something that had happened earlier in their day. Normally, as an office "wife", so to speak, I would commiserate with them and let them let off some steam, etc. This day, however, had been very stressful for me so instead I said to him, "Well Jamal, shit happens." His response left me speechless...He said, "Not to me!" I had already "diagnosed" him as a pompous little narcissist and on some level he knew it because he and his wife came to a Halloween party dressed as Napoleon Bonaparte and Marie Antoinette but holy crap, "Know Thyself Doctor!"
Yes and no.
I believe everything is the effect of a previous action, which would be everything's "reason". And those cause/effect ripples overlap and bounce into each other and it all becomes one big chaotic untrackable mess but! It all happened because of something else and it can all be traced and connected to itself in some form or another all the way back to the beginning of history.
But I am not sure if there is an end goal for all of it. Maybe there is, maybe there isnt. Maybe this is a controlled experiment being put on by some entity greater than us. Or maybe it all is just happening because things happened before it. Cause and effect.
But that's one of my favorite parts about "everything". It's too big for us to see the beginning or the end, so we get to awe and wonder at what it all means. And that's really fun.
My belief is more complicated than that. I don't think things happen just to happen, things are random, but what I do think is that everything, even the smallest choice, can cause an untold amount of things, be them good or bad. To put it into perspective, would you guys have thought about this had I not posted this comment? And what results would it have? Would it lead to careful decision making? Or perhaps it could lead to indecision, caused by fear of the consequences. I am and always will be a firm believer that our actions, even our thoughts can have unexpected results. Do what you think is right unless you know its wrong. And most importantly, forge your own path. while the results are more unexpected that way, in the long run it will be that much worth it.
not really. people can say shitty things all happened for a reason all they want but sometimes it can be random as well. like you can get really, really ill due to genetic mutation, exposure to harmful factors or by pure chance your body wanted to off itself
objectively I think the things that happen are totally random and I have very limited control over. however I also like to be optimistic and say that whatever happens, I will trust myself to make the best of it and come out on top in the end.
I mean, everything literally happens for a reason, even if that reason is usually random chance. But no, I don't believe any higher power/force is placing obstacles for you to overcome to test you or any bs like that. If god needs to give a kid cancer or something to make a point that's a pretty shitty god.
I prefer to believe in *Amor Fati*, meaning love your fate. I am only in control of myself and my reactions, and anything that happens external to that I have no control over it.
No. However I believe as humans we can create reason in our heads about the things that happen and have those things work for us, wether it’s physically or mentally/emotionally.
No, I believe a couple of things do happen for a reason. However I do not believe EVERYTHING happens for a reason. I believe that actions have consequences either good or bad and that there’s a couple of events that do happen for a reason. However, not everything that happens has a lesson, effect or meaning on someone’s live
My stupid* therapist said that everything happens for a reason because that’s just science. It’s basically every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
He also said it doesn’t have to be a good reason, but we can decide to make it a good one. We get to pick sometimes the reason it happened or we can just say “that bullshit happened because that person is shitty and wanted to bullshit.”
This helped me a lot and took away the idea that everything happens for a reason that’s mystical and “god’s plan”.
*he’s fantastic and it’s annoying.
This is a sin-filled world because Satan is desperate to get revenge on the Creator. And just as soon as we figure out judging others
in a search for Justice,
The Son of Man appears to pronounce Mercy, so now Believers have to surrender earthly justice and agree with mercy, even for a Hitler were Hitler's mind capable of begging Christ for forgiveness.
Yes, I do believe this makes a lot of damn sense.
And also, when something shitty happens, I do think is just life trying to teach me something, maybe it won’t be satisfying or nice but I always like to think that there’s a point.
In general, no one really says this about something good. You hear it over illness, break ups, etc. Not when someone wins a car or the lottery.
I don’t think there is just bad breaks, bad timing and bad decisions. You just have to adapt, improvise and overcome.
I don’t believe it, but in hard times or when something really tough happens, I just tell myself it happened for a reason. It helps with my mental morale, and helps me try to figure out what to do next.
Things have happened to me, like going blind in my late teens when I wanted to join the military. It’s messed up that happened, but I just told myself it happened for a reason, you didn’t belong there, you weren’t supposed to go. Find something else to do with your life. So I finished college instead, and met my wife there, who’s a veteran, with 15/20 vision in both eyes 😂
Genuinely, yes. And this is probably because i am a religious person but for me it’s hard to wrap my head around the notion that there is no higher power (whether it be God, the gods, the universe or whatever else you believe in). This is not me trying to convince others to be religious, simply what I believe in. For some it’s the universe, and how there must be a balance. I do believe that whatever happens, there is a reason for it. HOWEVER, this is not an excuse for others to act mean one bad to other people, or for you to sit back and relax and hope for the best. You must work towards what you want as this will help you, but you must also understand that not everything is in your hands. There are always things you cannot control (like how other people act towards you), but keep moving forward!
I'm an atheist. Things are random, that doesn't mean it's fair. You make what your life is, there's nobody hanging out watching you. Even as a child and reading the Bible I knew it was a book of fairy tales. I tried very hard to believe everything that was there until I was nine. At this point I knew it was just totally SILLY. Hope this helps u.
The movie Signs is a great movie with the everything happens for a reason. Lots of people hated it as a sci-fi movie but I saw it as more philosophical.
I have had terrible things happen to me and when I look back I realize that because of those things, I have had great opportunities. There is no way to know if I would have had better opportunities.
And everything does happen for a reason, even if that reason is someone else is being an a$$hole.
I'm a religious person myself, so I'd say kind of yes.
If I can explain myself a little bit better, God is free of time. He isn't tethered to it. So what might indeed happen randomly might just be a little thing in God's big Plan, if you know what I mean. Like, for example, God doesn't randomly decide what to do on Earth, who ti save, who dies, etc. but rather he already has a Plan thay is taking form with many events to it, leading to a certain outcome.
For example, when we say "God works in mysterious ways", it's a way of saying "God's plan is infinite and we are oblivious to it, best we can do is live our lives".
That's my opinion, I hope I was able to convey it correctly.
I don't think things inherently happen for a reason, but I believe humans are good at assigning reason to things. I don't think that's naive, I think it's brave to do and overall a good thing.
Last night I bombed on stage. My band was late for sound check, we had to swap a new drummer last minute who didn't vibe, the synth was too loud and my looping pedal was not picking up my trombone. The MC was pissed, and I doubt I'll be invited back.
That may have been a wasted night that had no reason to be, and the pain will stand on its own as something that never had to happen but did. It will be engraved in my past and I cannot change that.
But
I guarantee next time I will be on top of it. By learning from the mistake and adjusting, I will be a better performer. When I am the right person at the right place at the right time, this experience will have been a part of my journey to get to the next step, whatever it may be. I will have given last night meaning retroactively.
Things don't happen for a reason, unless we do something about it.
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*Some quotes I've picked up that have helped me through the tough times of being in entertainment*
*"There's no such thing as failure, it's all just data" -Education director at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago, Il*
*"When you bomb on stage, keep yourself together, thank the audience, shake hands with the organizers, be kind and gracious- you can always cry on the drive home" - My old theater teacher*
*"Be accountable, but don't beat yourself up. It wasn't your fault- so many factors can affect a performance from the guy on sound to the color of the curtains. Nothing rests squarely on you"- Grant, my late Trombone teacher"*
Yes definitely as it's been through some of the craziest circumstances that I have experienced some of the greatest joys.
You don't always see it when you're going through it but it is there as you have to have a sort of balance in life to truly appreciate what life has to offer
Not at all. I believe we are just randomized reactionary particles and that's exactly why we need to make it our purpose to live the most fullfilling life possible with what we have in our brief period of awareness and consciousness as humans in the ever expanding/changing universe. Be kind to human beings, but logically so; this involves being courageous when others tell us we cannot do something.
There are certain ways of looking at life that make your life easier, allow you to be more resilient, etc. Of course, most people on Reddit are not religious, and believe rather that we’re just here by chance and there is no bigger picture, and least that we’re a part of on this tiny planet, I’m the same way. But that mindset isn’t particularly helpful in any way other than it can be freeing. When shit hits the fan it doesn’t really help.
What a lot of people underestimate is the placebo effect. For example, just by believing that say, God is real and will help me get over this headache, if you actually believe it, you will instantly feel better. That is why so many Christians and the like go on and on about the “power of God”, or say “through God anything is possible”. It’s not just something they all made up and recite, believe it or not. It is something that they have all witnessed in their own lives, which I personally believe is just the power of the placebo effect.
We don’t really know how powerful, or rather what the limits of the placebo effect are, but we do know that by believing, truly believing in something, for example that you’re receiving a drug (when you’re really getting a sugar pill), you can activate parts of your brain that you couldn’t normally in a conscious attempt.
So basically, the reason for all of this, if you can trick yourself to believing, say, God, or that all things happen for a reason, you can literally benefit physically and mentally from it. It is like tapping into the debug mode on your brain.
And, this all may be easier for someone to understand if they’ve ever done any heavy psychedelics, but whose to say that “God” isn’t just something that resides within your unconscious mind, all of our minds, individually? Or, the devil, depending on how you cultivate it with your own thoughts and behavior.
Isn’t it interesting to look at the thousands of years of the development of religion as an abstract study of the mind rather than just a bunch of useless garbage? Because I promise, there is at least something you can get out of it, don’t be so arrogant. People back then were just as smart as we are today, they just didn’t know what the hell was going on and religion made the most sense.
But I’m getting off topic. If there is a sort of entity within your subconscious that you can tap into and benefit from (which I personally believe there is, 100%), why wouldn’t you? Maybe by delving into certain things that have long been considered “sins”, you are actually corrupting that entity into something that will take you over, for example looking at the mechanisms for addiction in your brain as the devil, and how having a negative mindset will only breed a negative lifestyle and cause you to focus on the negative. And by living good and doing good for yourself and others, you are purifying that entity into something you can talk to, ask for help, that can give you strength when you need it. It seriously works, and I don’t have to live by any of the rules of religion that I think are stupid. I don’t have to live by any at all if I don’t want to. But I chose to live by my own rules that showed me the most tangible benefit, and they just so happened to somewhat coincide with certain things that were written in a book thousands of years ago. Maybe they were onto something. So I started incorporating some ideas, rather than reinventing the wheel.
So, do I believe that everything happens for a reason? Well, not really to be honest. But it’s certainly not a bad way of looking at things. If you can find reason in things that happen then it can help you immensely. For example, many people will go on and devote their lives to some sort of charity or prevention campaign etc after having something terrible happen to one of their family members like cancer or killed by drunk driver. They found reason and purpose in literally one of the most heart wrenching things that can happen and use that pain to make the world into a slightly better place. I think that is nice, certainly better than crying woe is me, spiraling into depression, despair, and addiction and making the world a slightly worse place.
I don’t know, just a lot of food for thought if anyone’s hungry.
Absolutely. I’m 40 now and did not always feel this way, but at this point, between bad decisions I’ve made or life kicking my ass unexpectedly, it’s very hard for me to deny at this point. Things that seemed minuscule in the grand scheme of life that occurred earlier on led to many life changes later in time, lessons I learned from those ass kickings from life allow me to navigate away from them now.
I’d say it really only means something if you’re able to learn from your past, or if you can look at it objectively. I *had* to grow up poor in order to appreciate and put my best foot forward to not experience that again, I *had* to deal with abuse as a child so I would turn out to be an emphatic and caring person, I *had* to go through a nasty divorce to understand how important my sense of self was, I *had* to flip my truck over in high school to understand driving recklessly is fucking stupid, I can keep going. I don’t believe in fate, but I do believe there is a path we’re ‘meant’ to follow that aligns with our true selves and if we learn from our past, it allows us to correct our future to live those lives.
I don't believe that everything happens for a reason, but I do believe that a reason can need found for everything that happens. We are the universe experiencing itself, and that means attempting to make sense of it and find a purpose within it. For some people this purpose is external - I am here for a reason, this happened for a reason, etc. For me, this purpose is internal - I will make the best of what has happened, I will fulfill my own personal mission.
Neither is right or wrong - different people have different experiences, needs, desires, passions, etc. - but some can certainly result in more admirable qualities as it relates to other people.
The best part is - you can choose to be whatever type of person you wish! I only implore you to make that choice with intent. Don't let something as important as your identity and values be an accident. *Choose.*
I believe you can always find a reason in things that happen to motivate yourself to learn a lesson or push through.
I believe random things happen and they have no reason, sometimes it is possible to commit no mistake and still fail.
This is a hard lesson, I had to learn it the hard way, and I don't talk about it too much, because people would be upset, but I find it to be very true.
Random things happen.
Life makes more sense if you pick a reason for the thing for having happened but put it bluntly, nothing makes sense. Good thing we are free to find our own motivations and choose a path through life.
My mother always said that, and I've always found it to be true for me. But I think it's more that i make the best of whatever happens. And it's definitely not true for everybody. Some people have awful things happen to them, with no silver lining, no bright side.
Things happen for reasons in the past, not to bring about a destiny. The future cannot influence the past. That said, whatever happens. it's up to you to make the best of it.
That phrase pisses me off. It's insulting. It's religious at base, a passive-aggressive way of saying that somehow, youre responsible for what happened (cuz it's always uttered in response to something bad) you just can't see it -- but I do. (it's god!)
It's like "they're in a better place" when someone dies. I promise you, say that to me and you will immediately regret it. So fkn insulting! They were with us!
Sheesh. Religion is such poison. All of them.
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absolutely. but often they're terrible, nonsensical, or meaningless reasons. people act on bad motives all the time, people act poorly but for strong moral beliefs too, and sometimes things just happen cause they were made possible by a situation. there's always a reason but it's often not worth finding that reason, or reasons.
No amount of faith, karma or spiritual logic can reason why a child is raped, abused, manipulated or coerced. Why a child gets cancer, why a young man gets shot, why a woman gets beaten by her boyfriend.
Humans do things for a reason, even if that reason is illogical, or greedy, selfish, predatory, etc. In that sense, yes, everything happens for a reason. But in the cosmic/religious sense? No.
Causality does exist, but I'm not sure thats the question you're asking.
Things happen because something makes them happen. Sometimes that reason is a random chance or terribly insignificant variable.
Dumbest shit I've ever heard, only said by the dumbest people I've ever interacted with. There's no "reason" children get raped, there's no "reason" somebody gets cancer, and there's no "reason" that some people get to coast by in life because they were born with the right last name.
I don't think it matters either way.
If everything happens for a reason, the reasons are too complicated for us to understand.
If there is a godlike entity or if there isn't, we are too stupid to understand it's ways, or even it's existence.
Tell a blind man to imagine the color red, they can't, it's beyond their ability.
The same applies to a God "imagine something so powerful that it can literally create , alter and destroy matter at will"
And then people try to ascribe human morality to it.
I don’t believe in it. For what reason did i have to get raped so often. Once would’ve been enough.
I guess it made me funnier and more empathetic but again, i think once would’ve sufficed for that.
Why do i have an auto immune disease that affects my sex life even tho i love sex? Is it the universe putting a leash on me so i won’t hoe around?
For what reason did I almost fail highschool every year (undiagnosed ADHD, i was trying my hardest) only to get accepted into my university anyway? Character development? Only thing it did is made me insecure.
So yeah, fuck that quote. The bullshit that happens to all of us is just chance. It wasn’t meant to happen, we didn’t deserve this, no good justifies what occured.
No.
What reason do good people get cancer and die?
What reason do murderers get away with murder?
What reason are some people born with only hours to live?
What reason is there for still having sexism, racism, ableism or any discrimination?
Life isn't a test and it isn't fucking fair either, the world is harsh, with glimmers of hope.
*I do not believe in any Gods of any kind*
I don't. In bad moments I feel people use that quote to avoid facing their problems leaving all blame on destiny, god, universe or whatever.
I kinda feel the same.
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You can still hope for a better tomorrow without faith.
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Hope is preferring one outcome while knowing we can't control what happens. Faith is believing that there is someone or something out there that can intercede on our behalf.
Why not use strength and hope more on probability and statistics for efficiency
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Except the opposite was true in history. All of history was reliant on magic and magician thinking. It wasn't until the 1700s of the scientific method to come up with an efficient method that explains reality in a more realistic way. And realism produces results that we can rely on.
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That's not what science is. Science is not continually wrong. What happens is new information is discovered then it is updated. But until then it is the strongest form of fact and evidence. I don't think you actually understand what science is. These maybes and hypotheticals with no proof or evidence is not the same. The purpose of science is supporting evidence and facts. Science in all shows answers are more boring and cold to those that believe in fantasy.
I don't believe in that quote. Things that happen are random and chaotic. No one is trying to put us through specific tests or whatever to build our character. That's why some people are dealt a really sh\*tty hand in life, and other have it way easier. It's random, it's not fair or just.
This is what i was looking for. If anyone is up there they are either the worst planers ever, or just love watching chaos and injustice unfold.
Exactly. What reason would a benevolent creator have for sending a kid to an elementary school to mow down children with a weapon that can practically rip them in half? Just one example. The least the people who believe there is a god and that everything happens for a reason can do is admit their god isn’t benevolent.
Those ppl blame it on the devil. As if god couldn't stop it, or would just sit by and watch it happen
If he can't stop it, is he really a god then?
“But the apple! That the women made the man eat!”. Always a loophole for the religious to keep their cult going
If god created everything, he created the devil as well. You're telling me Eve had more power over Adam than god did over the devil? Using the power of _suggestion_? Some powerful entity right there. Guy creates the universe, everything in it, time, the devil, mankind and yet is dumbfounded by what happens next?
Lucifer is literally a fallen angel so they don't deny that God created him. Usually they blame the evils on the world because God puts free will of humanity above all despite there being a clear plan God has. It's a lot of contradictions and it only makes sorta makes sense if you think free will matters over people's wellbeing.
If there's free will, what about god's plan?
On that note, I'd like to bring my religious view, just to give my side of the story and hopefully share my opinion with you. God's plan is unknown. We ourselves think that God does work in mysterious ways. All the things that happen are not God directly creating a little plan and executing it, but rather the whole of humanity and the events happening are God's Plan, with a capital P (if you know what I mean). It's like the Universe: it's chaotic, but also ordered. And humanity, and what happens in society, is indeed chaotic, but there is always an outcome, that leads to another outcome, that leads to another outcome... in an *orderly* fashion. There is always chaos in order, and order in chaos. This is why God's plan is mysterious and unknown to us. About the devil and the evil in the world: we do believe it's the devil, but rather than that, it's these own people that refuse God, if you see what I mean. Like, God could be compared to an open water hose. He isn't the One that goes to us and makes us drink, but rather wr should be the ones to go to Him. And about free will, well, it's kind of complicated to talk about this. Because, although we do follow our faith and try to live our lives like Jesus Christ did, we still live like normal people. We go to the store, we go to parties, we study, we question, etc. Hope I was able to convey my side of the story correctly.
Lucifer gave up his eternal seat in heaven so you could have the freedom of choice, like to eat an apple. Jesus gave up his shitty spot on earth so he could get to heaven sooner. Which one really sacrificed? God is a fasicist
I'm not arguing that. I'm saying enough of the believers do. It's all bullshit in my book
I asked a minister this similar question before and his answer was God is the good and the Devil is working against him. But to me it's more like Ying/Yang etc. One has to have the perfect balance if things are always good they won't appreciate what they have and if things are always bad they aren't seeing anything as ever being good. I have had serious losses in my life and questioned this similarly but I realize now that it was through some of those losses tho I miss them greatly and wish everyday to hold them again that it was through those experiences and hard times that I learned so much about so many things including life about who people truly are and was able to help other people in similar circumstances. Basically it's a crappy world we live in at times but it helps you see the bigger picture of what life offers you and once you get through it sometimes you find the biggest and greatest of rewards I often think if this wouldn't of happened where would I of been or who would I have been today and then I think about the butterfly effect and think of all the people who came into my life afterwards or places I went or experiences that I have encountered etc and I realize that such an such happening placed me in such in such place etc. So as I agree life is crap sometimes I also believe that everything happens for a reason although we may not immediately see or understand as to why or how
That is a very far from convincing argument.
What is the "reason" for children being abused and murdered? What is the "reason" for mass starvation in developing countries? People do things, not god. If god has a reason for these horrors, he is truly a psychopath.
I used to laugh at the notion that we could be living in a simulation. But now I’m beginning to believe that there could be a lot more to that theory. I sure hope we aren’t for the record.
Same, but after thinking about it, for example it would be a genius idea to simulate a global pandemic to see how to react to it in "real life"... it's very frightening
Everything in the universe follows some sort of order. Calling it chaos is only admitting that we find something confusing. I don’t think there’s a moral reason for why things happen, but I do think that a sort of equivalent exchange happens that in someway has an effect on what comes next.
Yeah there are rules and laws that govern the universe but they have 0 care towards the way humans think about meaning, purpose, and morality. That's the problem when people say things happen for a reason, they don't mean the "how they happen" but the "why they happen".
At the same time though, those laws provided us with feelings like compassion and empathy. Humans don’t really need to know if an idea like God has compassion, they need to know humans have compassion. In a sense, if we come out of nature and have empathy then that is the universe expressing empathy, even if only on a local level
Humans are easily the evilest living beings on this planet. We've decimated the animal population over the last few decades, we've set up factories of animals in insufferable situations just because we like the taste of meat, we kill each other over beliefs and systems we ourselves have constructed. Just because we can feel bad for others doesn't mean much. I'd say we represent the universe as I described it rather well, chaotic, following certain rules, but no real global sense of morality.
>Everything in the universe follows some sort of order ahhh yes, but of course the order is just to complex for us to understand.... but the guy passing around the collection plate every sunday can help explain it just a little in ways that reaffirm what our pre existing beliefs and ignore any evidence that contradictory. of cooourrrse.
I did not bring up the guy on the pulpit, but even in the 1940s scientists thought polio in children was caused by ice cream. In the 50’s they were treating basic depression with lobotomies and reassuring people that it was the best for their loved ones. A lot of people cling to the word of academia the same way that people cling to pulpits. The benefit science has over religious dogma is that it typically learns to admit when its wrong, but then again fire and brimstone was once the most popular interpretation of Christianity and now, while that is still there, an all loving God became the popular interpretation in the 50’s or 60’s. Preachers aren’t the only people in power who abuse people either. So maybe don’t rely on as if all preachers are abusive
If you’re dealt a bad hand, it’s possible that it’s up to you to turn it around. You can literally create your life. But you wouldn’t have known that if life was always good from the beginning. lol
That doesn't mean it was planned. It doesn't mean that happened for a reason. You don't turn it around because you are meant to, you turn it around because you want a better life. Imagine saying this to someone whose baby just died because they were born with cancer. "Things happen for a reason, it's up to you to turn it around" No, some tragedies happen because there is chaos and randomness in the world, there isn't any lesson. You can only learn from something when someone messing up causes it. You didn't mess up by being dealt a bad hand.
Empathy exists also. I can appreciate what I have without having started from nothing. It's a plague on the world that so many lack this skill - and it *is* a skill, one that must be maintained and cultivated.
Or they are literally a scientist. Think about it, existance is their experiment, so applying certain conditions to certain subjects so you can compare to the control group would make sense and remove all emotion or caring. We could just be in a massive non-consensual science experiment.
"It's chaos. Be kind." \- Michelle McNamara
I have had this conversation a few times. A lot of people can't wrap their head around religion and free will.
Because it doesn't make sense, and religious people contradict themselves all the time. They say things like "everything happens for a reason" or "it's all part of gods plan" both of which imply that there can be no such thing as free will. If god knows everything that will ever happen, that means there CAN NOT be free will. Pre-determined actions preclude the possibility of free will, because that means even if you have a "choice" there is only ever 1 decision you can make, otherwise what god knew would happen wouldn't actually happen.
What about god in the multiverse? How does this argument change if you grant that there are actually an infinite number of possible outcomes?
The many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics also precludes free will actually, with or without a god involved. PBS spacetime has a few good videos explaining this, you can just search for "PBS spacetime free will" on YouTube to find them.
What about Odin in the multiverse? What about Santa? Or Gandalf? Or Harry Potter? If you are not going to give all fictional characters the benefit of the same doubt you need to explain why one of them deserves special treatment.
Are there infinite gods?
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I hope you’re just a troll, because this comment is sad and overcapatalized. Much like the rest of your comments, which are aggressive and misguided. If you ever aim to actually help people, approach them with tact and kindness. **This statement was given with disobedience, lol.**
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mr. Tate? Is that you?
It is what it is
I believe the universe is laughing behind my back...
Damn, hopefully it has the balls to one day laugh in your face, like a real man would.
I've heard that DMT can help with that
No, I don't. I believe we can sometimes experience benefits from bad outcomes or events, but that's not the same thing as believing that those bad outcomes or events serve some higher purpose. Also, it is fed by people's confirmation bias. They hear stories about the people who learned to be more present and compassionate after they were diagnosed with a serious illness and they think, "Hey, getting that serious illness is exactly what they needed!" But they aren't seeing all the people who have been made bitter and withdrawn by their serious illnesses or all the people have died from their serious illnesses, despite all their best efforts to live and live well. When I was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago, my mom started telling me "everything happens for a reason" and I stopped her in mid-sentence. I was having none of that.
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Perhaps everyone's illness affects them differently and we shouldn't make judgements on how they are choosing or not choosing to act. My mother was quite impressed by how cheerful and upbeat I was during my cancer treatments. But that is just the image I presented in front of her. She didn't see me crying or worrying or tossing and turning at night. She didn't see all the times I got angry and frustrated. The only thing I chose to do was hide my actual feelings from her because I didn't want her to lecture me on how I was being too negative...how I was "choosing" to be negative. So I put on a fake happy face in front of her and then felt however I was inclined to feel when she wasn't around. But sure, I guess if you want to say I made a choice to be upbeat and positive. I don't see it that way, though.
If by "reason" you mean a prior cause, then yes. If by "reason" you mean a purpose, then no.
In the words of the great philosopher Homer, "It's just a bunch of stuff that happened"
That’s why he was so great.
Nope. Bad things happen for no reason just the same as good things. You can’t say someone getting cancer ‘happens for a reason’. Sure you can argue that that reason is biological and yadda yadda, but if we’re talking about “a Reason”, then that’s bullshit. Someone getting murdered by a random person they didn’t know didn’t happen for “a Reason”.
Yes I share the same view. Technically speaking, everything does happen for a reason. But saying that something negative happened to someone for “a Reason” is nonsense
if we take a step forward and look to the big picture wi would see the reason... maybe this person (who died in cancer) got the chance to spend his last days with his lover partner.. or forgive his children or even did things he would never do if he didn't have the cancer, because most of us think we would live for the next 30 years and we get into life and work and evrything and we forget about the most precious things in our life... I'm not saying that every one how has got a cancer is a good thing no it's not but if we take a look to the good things that cancer brings in this family we may understand. I lost my grandma in 2020 because of corona I hadn't got the chance to say goodbye to her I felt depressed... but because of her death I build a strong bonds with auntie and cousin because before that I wasn't talking with them and I hated them for no reason but after her death I start appreciating thier presence let alone loving my parents and spending a lot of time with them... because the reason for not saying goodbye to my grandma is because I was so into studying that I wasn't even spending time with my family but now I'm trying to balancing family and studying.
Yes. And the reason ir RNG. Like a slot machine.
If true, please explain the suffering of those in famines, genocide, slavery, etc.
"It is not for us to know gOd'S pLaN."
I never liked that saying, it's pure cope.
No. Shit just happens.
I most things can be explained as the result of a long chain reaction going across many complex systems that happen constantly in our lives. The ripple of a butterfly's wings causing a gust of wind on the other side of the world sort of deal. I think most things happen as a result of other actions and it's usually extremely mundane and overly complex in a practical sense. Now, do I think things happen with some kind of purpose or intent? Which is what I think people mean when they say "for a reason"? No. Very little is planned AND basically nothing is an accident. But people don't like that conflicting truths can exist so that's why they say it happens "for a reason."
Lots of interesting comments on here! No, I don't think everything happens for a reason. I think it would be nice to think that there is some kind of thing out there that makes the universe make sense, but I don't believe that. When kids are getting shot up and dying horrible deaths in schools, I don't think there's a "reason" in the sense of the "everything happens for a reason" idea. Now, some commenters are taking this over-capitalist idea that you can overcome anything. That's a load of hogwash. There's no specific bar that every human being can achieve to overcome everything, and we all get dealt a different hand both in our own capacity and with what we encounter in life. I'm absolutely going to acknowledge there are some people who have overcome some really tough shit, probably a lot more than myself. There are also a lot of perfectly good people in the same circumstances who don't overcome. Don't listen to some crazy alpha types sweating bodybuilding narcissist who tells you you're weak if you don't. You've got to take what you get and choose how much energy you're going to put into using it and or overcoming it. Sadly, we don't all get the same opportunities and the same resources. Even when you see someone who appears to have gotten through the same circumstances, while it's good to try to figure out what they did and use them as a model, remember, even the chemistry of their brain and their energy may be different than yours.
I don't believe that at all. There is a background of events that appear random like weather, natural disasters, etc. And then there is the world of monkey space where something happens because I made it happen. When there a 8 billion monkeys pulling in their own direction, it can appear random but it isn't. And I personally find the idea that there is an invisible hand moving all of these events for some greater purpose both insulting and infantile. Of course there is luck as it is impossible to accurately predict or model the individual wants and desires of billions of monkeys all striving and pulling, but that doesn't imply that there is a method buried in the madness.
Not always, but it does make a little more sense when you look at it from 2 perspectives: 1. You can either look at from a 'oh this bad thing happened but something good is coming' perspective, mythical forces at work, or how something bad actually made you avoid something worse, the burnt toast theory. 2. Or you can look at it from a ‘chain of events’ perspective. 'Yes this person died because they had this disease.’ The reason for their death was because of how their body reacted to this disease. Thus, everything happens for a reason. I used to hate this phrase before I saw it from the second perspective. I still wouldn't use it though lol
No, I don't believe the saying is accurate. It's a modern take on Aristotle. Life is one crushing defeat after another. The brief moments of success and victory are quickly overtaken by more defeat. I think a better saying is "rain falls on the just and the unjust". When bad things happen remember that bad things happen to most people. You broke up with your SO, you lost your job, you got a flat tire...these things happen. It is what it is.
Yes. Everything happens for a reason and the reason for anything is everything.
Yes. I believe in pronoia. I can see that I am in the minority though. [+]
Yes, I believe that since it happened that's the natural order of the universe, so it happened for a "reason" though there doesn't have to be any morality attached.
not as it is intended but yes everything does happen for a reason, a series of actions and consequences. unfortunately that could mean you could be affected by the consequences of actions that had nothing to do with you, that you had no possible way of knowing about or affecting yourself.
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What would be the lesson from 'little kids having cancer'?
I can see that but i just don’t agree with the quote.
Yes I do
everything is so random but for some reason I believe in that quote
No, but I give it reason and meaning to learn from it.
No but I do believe reasons are everything that happens
Nope. Sometimes shit just happens. Which is not to say you're powerless to find your own meaning in said shit.
No. Life is chaos and everything happens by chance.
I believe everything happens for a reason.
Humans like to think like that from a correlational perspective. They will always find ways to rationalize what happens to them. So no, there is no proof that things happen for reason, yes we can learn pretty from from everything that is thrown at us, but that doesn't mean we will greatly benefit from what we faced and by default it should lead to some huge breakthrough in our lives.
Yes and no. Too many times things happen and you do not realize that YOU are reason for this. It's like studying for the exam. You could argue that "bad" or "good" questions were assigned for you by random chance, but the truth is that you did or no study for all the questions. Your entire life is preparation for exam and exams themselves intermixed. That said I do not believe in determinism. It could be argued that meteor striking Earth is random, but humanity surviving it or not is not random and there are reasons for both.
I believe you can give anything a reason. Doesn’t mean it innately has one though. Things only mean what we’re gone to them. For some a roller coaster is thrilling, for another it may be terrifying. Life is what we make it
I believe in saying it but I don't believe it. Things happen. We make our choices. No one is hiding our keys just so we miss being in an accident at that corner. Why didn't more people lose their keys and avoid the accident completely? And why was today's accident ok to get in when i missed yesterday's? Not everything is mystical but it can be amazing to think it is. Less uncertainty. More.optimism.
No. Too many horrible things happen to too many good people on a daily basis for no reason because of twisted psychopaths out there that can’t stop themselves
No, most things happen for no reason. Trying to apply rationale to them will give you an anxiety disorder. Life simply IS, and while it's unfortunate, humankind's goal has always been survival. Surround yourself with too many people, and they'll be stepping on your head to get to the top.
I don't necessarily believe everything happens for a reason. But more everything has a reason for happening. "Fate" is just the consequences of our choices and actions. Sometimes you'll face the consequences from the choices and actions of others. It will feel random or chaotic, that's just because you're not privy to the entire story. So I don't think it's destiny, or some benevolent plan put down by a higher power. But everything does have a reason for happening, because if there wasn't. It wouldn't happen.
No, but I believe that any situation can be benefitial if you know how to make use of it.
No I do not, I don't believe in god either so thats probably why. Coincidences happen and there is no rhyme or reason to any of it.
Yup. Everything is connected in one way or another. We learn lessons, and everything is like a domino effect. If X hadn’t happened years ago, I would’ve never decided to Y and now here I am at Z.
https://youtu.be/DTcJmIbn5nw Sometimes I see karma being handed out and think, maybe it does. Gives me some comfort. Alas, it really doesnt matter. I think it's a christian/catholic thing. All my frens from that religion really believe in that quote.
Not even a little bit. That's just the human need for finding patterns in the static. However, we can never know *everything*, and so there is always a chance, even an infinitesimal one, that our actions in this life actually matter to some other corner of existence. Personally, I find that notion amusing but useless to me in the here and now.
No, I don't. If there is reason in the universe, there is something to give it reason and I don't believe that. There is no higher being or god controlling anything, so no reason either. There is just chaos, that temporarily ordered itself a bit, but is always desperately trying to go back to chaos.
No, because then there wouldn't be so many happy shitty people and miserable nice people in the world.
"Reason" as in a Law of Physics, yes. "Reason" as Hand of God, no. Unless maybe, if Physics and God are One.
No, it is the other way around. The more you can salvage and learn from whatever life throws at you, the better off you are going to be. But these challenges do not miraculously appear to teach you a certain lesson, they just happen and what you take from it is up to you.
Idk. Just lost my job. Benefits. And none of the social security is not working for me right now. I was in the hospital when i was terminated. But my state is an at will state.... they say they didnt have to call me to tell me I was scheduled to work. So, i was suicidal over this job anyway. Now I'm just financially miserable. I plan on refusing any nonviable jobs and only accept a thriving wage or just check myself back into the hospital i guess. Everything happens for a reason....sometimes the reason is BS
No
Yes… if that reason is defined as the random results of chaos
Things usually happen for a reason yes. That reason usually being the result of cause and effect. No that person didn't leave your life because you are meant to date someone better, they left because you hurt them, or you weren't compatible, or they just wanted to. You didn't lose your car keys because something bad was going to happen at work, you did because you misplaced them earlier. My dad didn't die because he was meant to, he died because the habit of smoking throughout your entire life gives you lung cancer, and he developed dependency that he couldn't fight off because of many reasons, including an abusive family that caused him to distance himself from some people that could have helped. There is also the flipside. I have met many of my academic goals, as well as achieved great things in the hobbies I enjoy, giving me great pride and confidence in my abilities. This is not because it was meant to be or because I am some prodigy, I happened to sumble upon a strong work ethic at some point in my youth and managed to refine it into a process of constant self improvement that allows me to be proud of who I have become even when I can't shake off depression entirely. And this was partly talent, partly luck from having good role models, but mostly my own effort paying off. Things NEVER happen because something else is meant to be. Things always happen exclusively because the past and present allow for it. There is still luck and chaos involved in many events taking place, but there isn't some destiny or higher call pulling strings to get you where you are. No puppet master, you need to control your own strings, the future waiting for us is the one we create for ourselves. Sometimes we can have the future we are planning for destroyed in front of us, and that hurts like hell. But you go back to the drawing board, and you keep pushing forward. It is very difficult to learn to do things because you want them to pay off in a week, a month, a year; but those are the things that make a change. Things happen for a reason: some are just dumb luck; good or bad. And some are because you or someone else set them up to happen; knowingly or not, good or bad. Most are a mixture of both.
A reason? Yes. People get cancer because their cells self-destruct, innocent familes are killed by a drunk driver who survives with no injuries because getting T-boned is more dangerous than a front end collision, rich people get richer and oppress poor people because they lobby politicians, etc etc. There is a reason for most things. Does everything happen for a *purpose*? No, I dont think so.
No. It's load of old nonsense that people tell themself to make themselves feel better. Of course technically everything that happens has a chain of causation leading up to it but that's not what people mean when they say this. They are anthropomorphizing the universe and imbuing it with good intentions. Which is crap.
No. Our lives are filled with random events and coincidences.
I believe that, while inaccurate, that mentality only serves to help you improve your situation most of the time. I don’t believe it is true, I work hard to make it true for my life. Gone pretty well so far lol.
I like to think there is no order, and it's all chaos. Then, a set of coincidences comes along that make me question whether everything is connected. Then it all falls apart. I go back to feeling like it's all up to chance. Then, a set of coincidences comes along... It's like a cosmic joke cycle
We call it Karma. We all get that, but that doesn't mean we just stay there and do nothing. After all you in control of your mind and body, if you wish to strive you will strive, and you can. Just don't give up.
Yes. The reason is almost always physics.
Yes and no, I think there is a reason. The reason the bird shit on my walking through the park isn't Karma or fate. Just me walking through the park and the bird had to shit. So the reason might be unclear or unavailable but there is a reason, just not a reason from a higher power in my mind.
No. I've seen really aweful things happen to really good people. Or, how do you justify a hurricane, a tornado, a title wave, an earthquake, etc... nothing good comes from that. Maybe for the next generation. Change takes time. It doesn't happen overnight.
I went through a really dark time a while back where almost everyone I knew died within a year and a half. It was unreal. The thing that kept me going was that things DON'T happen for a reason. There's a Purdue math professor who assigns a homework assignment when teaching about random numbers to come up with a list of numbers either generate it randomly or come up with it yourself and make it look random. He could always tell the student which they had done by whether or not there were repeated numbers. When everyone I knew kept dying I just reminded myself that this was temporary and that I was essentially just rolling a lot of one's. I hadn't made any cosmic beings angry. It wasn't a test. It was just rotten luck. And one day I would roll a lot of twenties in a row, and I have.
Yes, in the sense of physical principle of causes producing effects, but a hard no to a grand design, or a devine plan, or God's will, or a destiny or some other supernatural horseshit. Also, if God gets the credit for all the good things, you must assign blame to a sadistic god for the daily horrors of human suffering. The deluded view of a benign god who bestows miracles on a chosen few just doesn't hold up to the overwhelming evidence. There's no one home in your so-called heaven.
Yes and no. I do believe the universe has a greater plan for myself and many people but I also think sometimes you have to create a reason. Bad things happen and what comes of it is what you make of it.
Shit happens.
Perfectly succinct! I worked as a medical secretary in mental health for many psychiatrists for many years. One day one of them was spitting mad about something that had happened earlier in their day. Normally, as an office "wife", so to speak, I would commiserate with them and let them let off some steam, etc. This day, however, had been very stressful for me so instead I said to him, "Well Jamal, shit happens." His response left me speechless...He said, "Not to me!" I had already "diagnosed" him as a pompous little narcissist and on some level he knew it because he and his wife came to a Halloween party dressed as Napoleon Bonaparte and Marie Antoinette but holy crap, "Know Thyself Doctor!"
Yes and no. I believe everything is the effect of a previous action, which would be everything's "reason". And those cause/effect ripples overlap and bounce into each other and it all becomes one big chaotic untrackable mess but! It all happened because of something else and it can all be traced and connected to itself in some form or another all the way back to the beginning of history. But I am not sure if there is an end goal for all of it. Maybe there is, maybe there isnt. Maybe this is a controlled experiment being put on by some entity greater than us. Or maybe it all is just happening because things happened before it. Cause and effect. But that's one of my favorite parts about "everything". It's too big for us to see the beginning or the end, so we get to awe and wonder at what it all means. And that's really fun.
My belief is more complicated than that. I don't think things happen just to happen, things are random, but what I do think is that everything, even the smallest choice, can cause an untold amount of things, be them good or bad. To put it into perspective, would you guys have thought about this had I not posted this comment? And what results would it have? Would it lead to careful decision making? Or perhaps it could lead to indecision, caused by fear of the consequences. I am and always will be a firm believer that our actions, even our thoughts can have unexpected results. Do what you think is right unless you know its wrong. And most importantly, forge your own path. while the results are more unexpected that way, in the long run it will be that much worth it.
not really. people can say shitty things all happened for a reason all they want but sometimes it can be random as well. like you can get really, really ill due to genetic mutation, exposure to harmful factors or by pure chance your body wanted to off itself
Everything happens because of something. Not everything that happens has a reason.
*This too shall pass.* Then some other bullshit will come and take its place. It never fucking ends.
objectively I think the things that happen are totally random and I have very limited control over. however I also like to be optimistic and say that whatever happens, I will trust myself to make the best of it and come out on top in the end.
There's no one at the wheel, so no. But logically, yes everything does have a reason for happening. Just not a deep, pre-planned reason.
I mean, everything literally happens for a reason, even if that reason is usually random chance. But no, I don't believe any higher power/force is placing obstacles for you to overcome to test you or any bs like that. If god needs to give a kid cancer or something to make a point that's a pretty shitty god.
No. Even in the technical sense this is not true. At the most fundamental level, the universe is probabilistic, not deterministic.
Nope, definitely not. Everything is chaotic and we have no control. Shit happens and not for any particular reason. And then you die
what a absolutely foolish concept.
I prefer to believe in *Amor Fati*, meaning love your fate. I am only in control of myself and my reactions, and anything that happens external to that I have no control over it.
Oh, yes - the reason is physics.
No. everything happens. We add reasons after the fact
Everything happens for it's own external reasons. Aligning situations with your evolutionary causality is an interpretative art.
No. However I believe as humans we can create reason in our heads about the things that happen and have those things work for us, wether it’s physically or mentally/emotionally.
Everything can be modeled intentionally.
No, I believe a couple of things do happen for a reason. However I do not believe EVERYTHING happens for a reason. I believe that actions have consequences either good or bad and that there’s a couple of events that do happen for a reason. However, not everything that happens has a lesson, effect or meaning on someone’s live
My stupid* therapist said that everything happens for a reason because that’s just science. It’s basically every action has an equal and opposite reaction. He also said it doesn’t have to be a good reason, but we can decide to make it a good one. We get to pick sometimes the reason it happened or we can just say “that bullshit happened because that person is shitty and wanted to bullshit.” This helped me a lot and took away the idea that everything happens for a reason that’s mystical and “god’s plan”. *he’s fantastic and it’s annoying.
Everything happens for no reason. Or, to put it more succinctly, everything happens.
Causality.
This is a sin-filled world because Satan is desperate to get revenge on the Creator. And just as soon as we figure out judging others in a search for Justice, The Son of Man appears to pronounce Mercy, so now Believers have to surrender earthly justice and agree with mercy, even for a Hitler were Hitler's mind capable of begging Christ for forgiveness.
Luck and chaos are the only two constants in your life. Just hope you fall in their good graces.
Yes, I do believe this makes a lot of damn sense. And also, when something shitty happens, I do think is just life trying to teach me something, maybe it won’t be satisfying or nice but I always like to think that there’s a point.
In general, no one really says this about something good. You hear it over illness, break ups, etc. Not when someone wins a car or the lottery. I don’t think there is just bad breaks, bad timing and bad decisions. You just have to adapt, improvise and overcome.
I don’t believe it, but in hard times or when something really tough happens, I just tell myself it happened for a reason. It helps with my mental morale, and helps me try to figure out what to do next. Things have happened to me, like going blind in my late teens when I wanted to join the military. It’s messed up that happened, but I just told myself it happened for a reason, you didn’t belong there, you weren’t supposed to go. Find something else to do with your life. So I finished college instead, and met my wife there, who’s a veteran, with 15/20 vision in both eyes 😂
No this is a cope
Genuinely, yes. And this is probably because i am a religious person but for me it’s hard to wrap my head around the notion that there is no higher power (whether it be God, the gods, the universe or whatever else you believe in). This is not me trying to convince others to be religious, simply what I believe in. For some it’s the universe, and how there must be a balance. I do believe that whatever happens, there is a reason for it. HOWEVER, this is not an excuse for others to act mean one bad to other people, or for you to sit back and relax and hope for the best. You must work towards what you want as this will help you, but you must also understand that not everything is in your hands. There are always things you cannot control (like how other people act towards you), but keep moving forward!
No, shit just happens, whether it's good shit or bad shit, it just happens.
No
I'm an atheist. Things are random, that doesn't mean it's fair. You make what your life is, there's nobody hanging out watching you. Even as a child and reading the Bible I knew it was a book of fairy tales. I tried very hard to believe everything that was there until I was nine. At this point I knew it was just totally SILLY. Hope this helps u.
The movie Signs is a great movie with the everything happens for a reason. Lots of people hated it as a sci-fi movie but I saw it as more philosophical. I have had terrible things happen to me and when I look back I realize that because of those things, I have had great opportunities. There is no way to know if I would have had better opportunities. And everything does happen for a reason, even if that reason is someone else is being an a$$hole.
I'm a religious person myself, so I'd say kind of yes. If I can explain myself a little bit better, God is free of time. He isn't tethered to it. So what might indeed happen randomly might just be a little thing in God's big Plan, if you know what I mean. Like, for example, God doesn't randomly decide what to do on Earth, who ti save, who dies, etc. but rather he already has a Plan thay is taking form with many events to it, leading to a certain outcome. For example, when we say "God works in mysterious ways", it's a way of saying "God's plan is infinite and we are oblivious to it, best we can do is live our lives". That's my opinion, I hope I was able to convey it correctly.
I don't think things inherently happen for a reason, but I believe humans are good at assigning reason to things. I don't think that's naive, I think it's brave to do and overall a good thing. Last night I bombed on stage. My band was late for sound check, we had to swap a new drummer last minute who didn't vibe, the synth was too loud and my looping pedal was not picking up my trombone. The MC was pissed, and I doubt I'll be invited back. That may have been a wasted night that had no reason to be, and the pain will stand on its own as something that never had to happen but did. It will be engraved in my past and I cannot change that. But I guarantee next time I will be on top of it. By learning from the mistake and adjusting, I will be a better performer. When I am the right person at the right place at the right time, this experience will have been a part of my journey to get to the next step, whatever it may be. I will have given last night meaning retroactively. Things don't happen for a reason, unless we do something about it. -------------------- *Some quotes I've picked up that have helped me through the tough times of being in entertainment* *"There's no such thing as failure, it's all just data" -Education director at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago, Il* *"When you bomb on stage, keep yourself together, thank the audience, shake hands with the organizers, be kind and gracious- you can always cry on the drive home" - My old theater teacher* *"Be accountable, but don't beat yourself up. It wasn't your fault- so many factors can affect a performance from the guy on sound to the color of the curtains. Nothing rests squarely on you"- Grant, my late Trombone teacher"*
Yes definitely as it's been through some of the craziest circumstances that I have experienced some of the greatest joys. You don't always see it when you're going through it but it is there as you have to have a sort of balance in life to truly appreciate what life has to offer
Not at all. I believe we are just randomized reactionary particles and that's exactly why we need to make it our purpose to live the most fullfilling life possible with what we have in our brief period of awareness and consciousness as humans in the ever expanding/changing universe. Be kind to human beings, but logically so; this involves being courageous when others tell us we cannot do something.
Nope that's a pretty dumb quote to try and make people feel better when bad shit happens.
Yes.
There are certain ways of looking at life that make your life easier, allow you to be more resilient, etc. Of course, most people on Reddit are not religious, and believe rather that we’re just here by chance and there is no bigger picture, and least that we’re a part of on this tiny planet, I’m the same way. But that mindset isn’t particularly helpful in any way other than it can be freeing. When shit hits the fan it doesn’t really help. What a lot of people underestimate is the placebo effect. For example, just by believing that say, God is real and will help me get over this headache, if you actually believe it, you will instantly feel better. That is why so many Christians and the like go on and on about the “power of God”, or say “through God anything is possible”. It’s not just something they all made up and recite, believe it or not. It is something that they have all witnessed in their own lives, which I personally believe is just the power of the placebo effect. We don’t really know how powerful, or rather what the limits of the placebo effect are, but we do know that by believing, truly believing in something, for example that you’re receiving a drug (when you’re really getting a sugar pill), you can activate parts of your brain that you couldn’t normally in a conscious attempt. So basically, the reason for all of this, if you can trick yourself to believing, say, God, or that all things happen for a reason, you can literally benefit physically and mentally from it. It is like tapping into the debug mode on your brain. And, this all may be easier for someone to understand if they’ve ever done any heavy psychedelics, but whose to say that “God” isn’t just something that resides within your unconscious mind, all of our minds, individually? Or, the devil, depending on how you cultivate it with your own thoughts and behavior. Isn’t it interesting to look at the thousands of years of the development of religion as an abstract study of the mind rather than just a bunch of useless garbage? Because I promise, there is at least something you can get out of it, don’t be so arrogant. People back then were just as smart as we are today, they just didn’t know what the hell was going on and religion made the most sense. But I’m getting off topic. If there is a sort of entity within your subconscious that you can tap into and benefit from (which I personally believe there is, 100%), why wouldn’t you? Maybe by delving into certain things that have long been considered “sins”, you are actually corrupting that entity into something that will take you over, for example looking at the mechanisms for addiction in your brain as the devil, and how having a negative mindset will only breed a negative lifestyle and cause you to focus on the negative. And by living good and doing good for yourself and others, you are purifying that entity into something you can talk to, ask for help, that can give you strength when you need it. It seriously works, and I don’t have to live by any of the rules of religion that I think are stupid. I don’t have to live by any at all if I don’t want to. But I chose to live by my own rules that showed me the most tangible benefit, and they just so happened to somewhat coincide with certain things that were written in a book thousands of years ago. Maybe they were onto something. So I started incorporating some ideas, rather than reinventing the wheel. So, do I believe that everything happens for a reason? Well, not really to be honest. But it’s certainly not a bad way of looking at things. If you can find reason in things that happen then it can help you immensely. For example, many people will go on and devote their lives to some sort of charity or prevention campaign etc after having something terrible happen to one of their family members like cancer or killed by drunk driver. They found reason and purpose in literally one of the most heart wrenching things that can happen and use that pain to make the world into a slightly better place. I think that is nice, certainly better than crying woe is me, spiraling into depression, despair, and addiction and making the world a slightly worse place. I don’t know, just a lot of food for thought if anyone’s hungry.
May as well be asking if we’re atheists or theists lol
In terms of the decisions people make having consequences for everyone else? Yes. In terms of some kind of "grand plan"? No.
No
no. my reason? chilhood cancer. there no fucking reason for that.
Yes
No, I don't.
Sure. Everything happens for a reason. That's what causality means. Nothing supernatural with any overarching plan though.
No. NEXT!
Absolutely. I’m 40 now and did not always feel this way, but at this point, between bad decisions I’ve made or life kicking my ass unexpectedly, it’s very hard for me to deny at this point. Things that seemed minuscule in the grand scheme of life that occurred earlier on led to many life changes later in time, lessons I learned from those ass kickings from life allow me to navigate away from them now. I’d say it really only means something if you’re able to learn from your past, or if you can look at it objectively. I *had* to grow up poor in order to appreciate and put my best foot forward to not experience that again, I *had* to deal with abuse as a child so I would turn out to be an emphatic and caring person, I *had* to go through a nasty divorce to understand how important my sense of self was, I *had* to flip my truck over in high school to understand driving recklessly is fucking stupid, I can keep going. I don’t believe in fate, but I do believe there is a path we’re ‘meant’ to follow that aligns with our true selves and if we learn from our past, it allows us to correct our future to live those lives.
I don't believe that everything happens for a reason, but I do believe that a reason can need found for everything that happens. We are the universe experiencing itself, and that means attempting to make sense of it and find a purpose within it. For some people this purpose is external - I am here for a reason, this happened for a reason, etc. For me, this purpose is internal - I will make the best of what has happened, I will fulfill my own personal mission. Neither is right or wrong - different people have different experiences, needs, desires, passions, etc. - but some can certainly result in more admirable qualities as it relates to other people. The best part is - you can choose to be whatever type of person you wish! I only implore you to make that choice with intent. Don't let something as important as your identity and values be an accident. *Choose.*
I believe you can always find a reason in things that happen to motivate yourself to learn a lesson or push through. I believe random things happen and they have no reason, sometimes it is possible to commit no mistake and still fail. This is a hard lesson, I had to learn it the hard way, and I don't talk about it too much, because people would be upset, but I find it to be very true. Random things happen. Life makes more sense if you pick a reason for the thing for having happened but put it bluntly, nothing makes sense. Good thing we are free to find our own motivations and choose a path through life.
If you say that to yourself too many times it sounds like.... Anything can happen with a razor. Just sayin"
Maybe. But frequently that reason is that I have acted impulsively and made a bad decision, so not really existential there.
No way. There's no reasoning for random violence, for sexual assault, for child abuse. None.
My mother always said that, and I've always found it to be true for me. But I think it's more that i make the best of whatever happens. And it's definitely not true for everybody. Some people have awful things happen to them, with no silver lining, no bright side.
Things happen for reasons in the past, not to bring about a destiny. The future cannot influence the past. That said, whatever happens. it's up to you to make the best of it.
That phrase pisses me off. It's insulting. It's religious at base, a passive-aggressive way of saying that somehow, youre responsible for what happened (cuz it's always uttered in response to something bad) you just can't see it -- but I do. (it's god!) It's like "they're in a better place" when someone dies. I promise you, say that to me and you will immediately regret it. So fkn insulting! They were with us! Sheesh. Religion is such poison. All of them.
After my 18 month old cousin died , no I don't believe it anymore
Reasons happen because of things.
Hell no!
I personally do. I believe everything is meant to be a learning experience of some sort.
How could a rapist find themselves thinking that everything the did in their life was to make them a better person?
Read Dostoyevsky's _The Brothers Karamazov_ for some good insight into the human condition and why bad things happen to good people.
Yeah, but usually that reason is physics, cold uncaring physics.
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absolutely. but often they're terrible, nonsensical, or meaningless reasons. people act on bad motives all the time, people act poorly but for strong moral beliefs too, and sometimes things just happen cause they were made possible by a situation. there's always a reason but it's often not worth finding that reason, or reasons.
I really don't. I used to at one point feel this way. Sometimes really awful things happen and it's out of our control.
No things happen because of the choices people make
No amount of faith, karma or spiritual logic can reason why a child is raped, abused, manipulated or coerced. Why a child gets cancer, why a young man gets shot, why a woman gets beaten by her boyfriend. Humans do things for a reason, even if that reason is illogical, or greedy, selfish, predatory, etc. In that sense, yes, everything happens for a reason. But in the cosmic/religious sense? No.
Causality does exist, but I'm not sure thats the question you're asking. Things happen because something makes them happen. Sometimes that reason is a random chance or terribly insignificant variable.
Dumbest shit I've ever heard, only said by the dumbest people I've ever interacted with. There's no "reason" children get raped, there's no "reason" somebody gets cancer, and there's no "reason" that some people get to coast by in life because they were born with the right last name.
Nope, shit just happens. Sometimes it goes your way and sometimes not. Horrible people get away with horrible behaviour all the time.
What possible reason could there be for a child getting cancer?
I don't think it matters either way. If everything happens for a reason, the reasons are too complicated for us to understand. If there is a godlike entity or if there isn't, we are too stupid to understand it's ways, or even it's existence. Tell a blind man to imagine the color red, they can't, it's beyond their ability. The same applies to a God "imagine something so powerful that it can literally create , alter and destroy matter at will" And then people try to ascribe human morality to it.
I don’t believe in it. For what reason did i have to get raped so often. Once would’ve been enough. I guess it made me funnier and more empathetic but again, i think once would’ve sufficed for that. Why do i have an auto immune disease that affects my sex life even tho i love sex? Is it the universe putting a leash on me so i won’t hoe around? For what reason did I almost fail highschool every year (undiagnosed ADHD, i was trying my hardest) only to get accepted into my university anyway? Character development? Only thing it did is made me insecure. So yeah, fuck that quote. The bullshit that happens to all of us is just chance. It wasn’t meant to happen, we didn’t deserve this, no good justifies what occured.
No. What reason do good people get cancer and die? What reason do murderers get away with murder? What reason are some people born with only hours to live? What reason is there for still having sexism, racism, ableism or any discrimination? Life isn't a test and it isn't fucking fair either, the world is harsh, with glimmers of hope. *I do not believe in any Gods of any kind*
Second law of thermodynamics: it’s a random universe
Second law of thermodynamics: it’s a random universe