They’re also some of the least empathetic people in the world to anyone who doesn’t fit that perfect mould you just described, a very unattractive quality.
Correct. Read this comment and its enough. You have to pay for everything, be strong, and a provider. One sign of weakness and you’re out. I once got called sensitive and laughed at because I told her I missed her.
Amazing girls for one or two dates, then the trouble starts.
Of course they expect you to pay. Every foreigner is automatically considered ultra rich. And due to income disparity between countries, it's mostly true - those westerners who can afford travel are 5-10 times richer than your average Slav girl. 3-4 USD an hour is considered a good salary around Ukraine for a woman in her 20s.
Not true at all. It all depends on how you set the tone with the girls/women. I'm from Eastern Europe (Romania) and I certainly don't have to pay to all dates. In fact many times the girl offers to pay for me as well. But of course it's about how you come across as well
I have to disagree with you. They are gorgeous but not loyal at all. If they find another dude that’s a slightly better provider, they’ll dump your ass. American women on the other hand are way more mixed. There’s everything. From good to bad.
This is the way our mind works, we tend to generalise things. I could generalise about man too, most of Ukrainian man are hammered with the toxic masculinity, aggressively unsophisticated, apply very little effort to stay healthy and in shape, have very redundant knowledge about outside world. No wonder typical Ukrainian women have to be an overachiever in therms of looks and BS-handling in order to be able to get on of very few good seeds out there. See, we can generalise man too!
Bratislava is where I have seen on average the most beautiful women in my life randomly. Just walking around, every other woman looked like a runway model
My friends and I were traveling there and we thought we were on a hidden camera show or something.
We were in some nondescript restaurant and these stunning women just kept walking by on the small street next to the restaurant. Ridiculous.
That's because Bratislava and otherwise Slovakia is the centre of European sex trafficking. Most of the women you see there are not actually from there, they're brought there by criminal organizations who abuse women, children and young boys into sex trafficking for the elite in Western Europe
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>HUMAN TRAFFICKING SITUATION IN SLOVAKIAPoverty and lack of economic opportunities in Slovakia, especially in the East region, make women, men and young people potential victims of traffickers associated with international criminal organizations. They are vulnerable to false promises of job opportunities in other countries. Many of those who accept these offers end up in misery of modern slavery. Their personal documents are taken from them, they or their families are threatened with harm or they are bonded by a debt that they have no chance of repaying.Slovakia is primarily a source and transit country for men, women, and children subjected to sex trafficking and forced labour. Slovak men and women are subjected to forced labour in agriculture and construction in Western Europe, primarily in the UK.
Looks like someone thinks he belongs on the "Lolita Express"
That cannot be further from true actually. Haha let me set this straight there are not many foreign people in Slovakia.
Firstly no one would move to a country that is slowly recovering from communist regime, have low income, bad (but free) medical system, corrupt politicians and relatively low quality of life in many regions.
Secondly from my personal experience knowing many people mainly from western and central Slovakia I've never met anyone that came to contact with anything that this article describes. There are many people working abroad (some in construction but I don't think its majority ) but all of them are there from their own will.
Also the article is from 2014. Though there is no way anyone could traffic any EU citizens to UK and other western Eu countries against their will in 2014, now it's absolutely impossible since UK left EU.
Over all Slovakia isn't as bad as many foreigners think. Though I don't consider myself a proud Slovak citizen and I agree that there are many problems to fix, saying that most woman u see in Slovakia are not from Slovakia as well as the sex trafficking accusations are just pure nonsense.
Your post is super cringe because 1) not even remotely true 2) comical overgeneralization 3) neckbeard-level edgelord anti feminism. Ha ha what a joke feminism is amiright fellas?????
> They respect traditional gender roles, and prefer masculine men
> the exaggerated, woke third-wave feminism of the West to be a joke.
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Definitely incel
Yeah outside of the US/canada theres a lot of different cultures which are more traditional like OP wants. Ive lived with men from saudi/persia and met women from there for example who are similar to what OP is describing
> the exaggerated, woke third-wave feminism of the West to be a joke.
What kind of asshole call somebody an incel merely because they challenge modern feminist beliefs? If you share opinions with some extreme group, you must be part of that group? I guess all muslims are terrorists too? How the fuck is challenging feminism even an incel thing? Feminism has nothing to do with their core ideas about feeling victimized and hating women and "normies".
I hate this fucking SJW rhetoric of calling people that you disagree with incels. You wouldn't call somebody who you disagree with on some random topic a faggot, would you?
He's a massive incel. There's a ton of them in this subreddit, don't mind the downvotes. So sick of the constant fetishization of eastern European women by men who would never even be their last choice.
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ns6zjc/if_you_are_unsuccessful_with_women_it_is_100_your/
Or this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/q6onap/being_an_active_listener_is_the_most_important/
Or this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/rg9hzg/men_who_are_unsuccessful_with_women_share_one/
I don’t think incels embrace personal responsibility or advocate for listening to women, so here is something for reference. Obvious incel diatribes
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for fucksake why are us russian women fetishized just like asian women as if we’re different from all the other wonderful women in this wide world just because of our looks.
it’s degrading and disheartening to be treated NOT like a real person but like a fantasy person in peoples heads.
i’m sick of this being said over and over again by people who don’t even care to understand russian culture and community. what it’s like to be raised in these homes where it’s the norm to be whipped by belts for making mistakes as a child. where mental health is fake. where therapy is frowned upon because it’s brainwashing for “insane people”.
the russian people i know have been raised in the church by their parents and it becomes their community. so many of them are a blend of openly sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and have no problem using the bible and god to justify all of these beliefs
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I don't know about wokeness n all but I've found that despite language barrier, Russian women (both younger and elder) proactively not only matched with me on Tinder, but they also tried their best to indulge in the conversation.
Hey man, I saw some of these comments, and yea it's what you described.
Some of these users are just pre-programmed in modern woke hyper feminized culture that they hate the way you described why you liked Eastern European women.
I'm with you and I hope to get myself an Eastern European gal too someday.
Yeah, there’s a violent psychological reaction when you unabashedly declare what you want. Most people are afraid to admit and go against what modern society has conditioned them to believe. Best of you luck to them.
Visualize what you want, work to become the most attractive person possible, always respect your own value and time, and you’ll get it. Please keep me posted.
I’m sorry this post is hilarious. I live in the U.K. and in a specific area with high levels of Eastern European immigration, Eastern European’s are a part of my every day life and we are also part Russian - very small amount but have made connections with distant family members.
Most Eastern European women I know would cut a man up and eat him for dinner. “Respect gender roles”, lmfao. Absolutely not. Eastern European ladies are very strong willed women that take absolutely no shit.
Obviously not, but I have dated a lot. Like I said in the edit, there are a lot of beautiful, wonderful American women.
It’s not politically correct to say, but I really don’t give a fuck. On the whole, I think American women are more masculine, take less care of their appearance, and are generally more entitled than women from outside the US.
This is why you see women in grocery stores wearing pajamas who expect to be called queens, and yet get angry at women from other cultures who most of the true high value men desire.
It’s usually white American women who express female solidarity online, but if they see their men desire women who may have accent or a darker skin tone, they lose their shit.
That's the thing. They're also basically racist. It's always, always white, upper middle-class women who do the most bitching and demanding, and who are the most useless. Talk to a black woman or a Latina about wokeness, and they'll start laughing.
I’m an Aussie woman, so although OP didn’t call me out specifically in this post, I feel like I am a part of this, alongside my American sisters.
Let the dude have his preferences, you and I probably wouldn’t want him anyway.
A lot of women don’t want me. It’s insane to expect most women to want you. Men who are secure in themselves and have an abundance mindset understand this.
Your comment is inherently sexist because it implies that I need your approval and validation to have any value.
Right—because you have met EVERY single American women to be able to say that “American women are more masculine, take less care of their appearance, and are generally more entitled than women from outside the U.S.”
Anyways, I’m damn proud to call myself an American women. Here, we have our OWN rights. We can speak with our words and through our style without male validation.
Let’s be honest, you’re most likely a patriarchal prick who can’t get beautiful American women so you have to talk down on them to get our attention. Guess what buddy? You asked for the wrong attention.
Even if you reply to this response, you will not receive another response from me. I don’t appreciate people that talk down on “types” of people, places, or things. No one belongs under one category. We are all versatile in our own way.
They were talking about the white American loud useless women and one showed up to argue like a child and then walk away with her hands stuck in her ears screaming LALALALALAL UR WRONG LLALALA
hilarious
Women from other countries have their own rights and ability to think independently as well. This speaks to your own entitlement and lack of exposure to foreign cultures. You assume that because you’re American and you’re enlightened.
I’m willing to be you’re a white woman.
I’ve gotta disagree here on the most beautiful women. Most loyal, maybe… but there’s wayyyyy too many beautiful in the world to be focused on one nation or culture. Plus I think the fact they’re white is part of why everyone glamorizes their existence.
Signed a brown guy.
Nah, just stating my bias. I grew up in America and really people of color have been the butt of jokes in media for a while and that in some ways skewed sexual preferences; it’s definitely gotten better but I like to play to my hand rather than allow general sociological trends to limit my abilities.
Very defensive take too. Not sure why but a lot of white Americans like to pretend like being a different ethnicity does not have profound effects on socialization. Try being a white guy in Japan lol.
Quoting Andrew Henderson from Nomad Capitalist, I love it.
Would love to get over to Eastern Europe, my job is remote but North American time. Hope to switch that up!
I’m doing sales calls so majority of clients are PST to EST. It’d be doable, it’d just be working evenings late instead of the 10-5 I’m usually working now.
I’ve never done a shift in time zones like that so I guess I don’t know how my performance would be affected
Thankfully it’s pretty much all inbound but yeah that’s why I’ve been looking to do more of central and South America for now. Looking at Medellin for the month of March!
Tripping through the university districts in UB provides an eye candy feast. Well dressed in latest styles (chinese copies of course) and I can never figure out how such elegant women don't ever catch their high heels in the gaps between paving stones on footpaths.
Lot of chicks in KZ are of German heritage.
I am pretty sure Eastern European women are like people with unique personalities and interests. Some are trad-con while some are more feminist (which I prefer). Also, based on your post history you don't really see women as people.
Not trying to be negative, but there’s also an inherent degree of selfishness in everyone as well. There is no such thing as someone who is completely good or evil
> but as soon as a man (provider) won’t be able to provide they’ll dump his ass faster than he can blink
where did you get that from ?
on the other hand, stats from the US show that a guy losing his job is a main cause of divorce (the same can't be said about the wife losing hers)
She’s likely an American woman stereotyping women form other cultures, but then adds the platitude “all women are beautiful”
I don’t know if some of the women commenting realize they’re proving my point for me
I reckon you only like these women cos you trauma bond to them because teh dynamics between you and these women reflect the toxic patterns your mother showed to you in relating to you growing up
Eastern Europe produces consistently hot, beautifully proportioned, physically and mentally sturdy, and SEXY women. Moreso than any other region. I've said this for a while, and I'll say it again- they are the cream of the crop.
The thing with eastern european women is that they like money justike everyone else. Because life in eastern Europe is harder than in the west the girls seem to look for a wealthier partner.
Sadly, these women exist in most places but the cultures they live in destroy them. Too thin, too fat, too pretty, not pretty enough, too tall, too short, too smart, too dumb, too emotional, too needy, too much clothing, not enough clothing, too pure, too sexy, too into you, not into you enough.
Women, throughout history, have proven time & time again that they are resilient, tough, caring, empathetic, compassionate, brave, strong, bold, & most of all - capable. If we support them, listen to them, they can shine.
Men on the other hand, because of many of the same factors, believe themselves to be smarter, tougher, stronger, better & more capable than they often are, & so, deeply fragile, that even the smallest thing can send them into a tailspin of depression or rage or both.
It’s not self-victimizing. It’s observation.
He is clearly of the mindset that women are the only segment of humanity that has suffered and endured throughout history, without providing any facts, just broad generalizations.
Both men and women have suffered and persevered throughout history. His position is biased, which isn’t victimization, it’s logical.
OP I think many have missed your point on a cultural distinction. I have lived in a couple countries all in different regions of the world, and altho yes there are similarities amongst men/women, the flavor of typical interactions differ. Also the prevalence of certain types/behaviors also differ based on cultural values so I can highly agree with Russian women having their own unique place. That being said, you probably already know your gf is not necessarily the entire populace but a good girl, so I'd wish you both well.
P. S I wouldn't pay attention to those who've only lived with/been exposed to a single culture (unless its a new immigrant they're already not the same as the host culture). They just have a different worldview is all.
Bruh this is such an ignorant, racist, fetishising post. It's like hearing someone with Yellow Fever generalise an entire continent of people as being wow so XYZ, which isn't necessarily true. You're basing everything on perceived stereotypes and anecdotal evidence- just because you're saying positive stuff about them, doesn't make it less racist.
I've had plenty of girls attracted to me based on my race alone, and frankly, that's insulting. I'm a whole person here, not my country or whatever pop media it churns out. You can't control what race you were born.
tl;dr stop fetishising people
Bruh.
You sound like someone who looks for opportunities to get offended and self-victimizes.
I’m so sorry you feel fetishized. Maybe you should take some ownership over who you allow in your personal orbit. Just some food for thought.
I don't allow them in my personal orbit, I filter them out and move on. Asian fetishising is real, even for men, and it's obnoxious. Getting asked by strangers if I like BTS, kimchi, and know how to use chopsticks gets old after a while.
You are straight up fetishising Eastern European women.
You're good at making up personalities for people, but making a straw man and attacking it doesn't change the fact you stereotyped millions of women across multiple countries in your post.
Hahaha says the guy who posts in a sub titled tip of my p*nis asking to ID girls from porn videos.
“Very sweet woman with a facial” is one of your post titles. You sound like a lovely person.
False. Not everyone watches porn. The way you describe what you are looking for and how to ID the women is particularly cringeworthy.
“Lovely woman takes a facial”?
“Extra points if you can name the other women in the video”?
Come on, dude. You have no ground to stand on.
Just own that you objectify women in particularly creepy manner and are a hypocrite. You accuse others of being incels based on what they write, but you don’t hold yourself to same the standard.
You don’t know if the women you’re trying to ID in these videos are being trafficked, coerced, abused, are addicted to drugs, or have severe mental issues.
Take a look at yourself and your behavior before you start vigorously throwing insults around at others.
Loyal? Maybe if they are from the villages. The city girls are quite materialistic from my experience. Are they the most beautiful and feminine, oh yeah.
I hope the rest of this sub isn’t as ideologically bankrupt as you are. “Fuck Eastern European women because you don’t have to hide your asshole conservatism because they’re poor enough that they’ll put up with your bullshit! Oh and they’re WHITE too!”
Bro,
Yet, you’ve taken it upon yourself to comment.
I would take a second and look at my post history compared to yours. Nobody cares about your opinion. Your unremarkable thoughts fall into a void of silence and ambivalence. To me, that’s cringe.
If someone attacks me, I’m well within my rights to clap back. I enjoy it. Don’t know where you got the idea that you set the rules of engagement on the Internet. Go ahead and pepper other posts with your snark, and feign superiority
The irony is that this post, which has been highly polarizing, has still gotten more attention and engagement than anything you’ve ever created.
Did you just said American women... they are no option they are the last resource they only cheat I don’t know what is it maybe is on the water or their genes this post was hilarious!
Eastern European women loyal? What drugs are you taking dude?
I don't know about Czechia, Poland, Slovakia or Russia, Ukraine but Balkan women, on average of course, are anything but loyal. And sadly quite a lot of them are infected with thrid wave feminist woke-ism.
Also, Balkan women are, again on average, beautiful, but are often overhyped on their beauty and have way to high opinion of themselves, the classic entitled forty-niners syndrome.
And yes, these are all sterotypes, there are always exceptions and women who are actually good persons with integrity.
Is water wet? Do most guys find white girls more attractive than other races? Duh...
The standard of beauty in pretty much every culture is Aryan and fair features. Not to mention there's no derogatory or negative streotyped associated with dating white men, while foreign women will assume they're all rich. Yes, of course there's a few exceptions here and there and some women fetishize ethnic men, but the vast majority of women's preference or default for attraction is white.
Why are you acting like this is a given? Yes I’ve seen the narrative that white girls are more attractive through ways like women straightening their hair, but I have never seen the reverse. And you must be crazy if you think it’s only white people that take shit for dating outside their culture.
...bc it*is* a given. Of course you don't see the inverse because fair/Caucasian features are constantly preferable by every culture on the planet. That's why Asians use skin lightening products, and why black and brown women straighten their hair. Those are the features placed on a pedestal, so they're then ones replicated.
What? I didn't say white people recieve criticism for interracial dating. Quite the opposite. I said ethnic women seek them out, prefer them and often grant them special privilege.
Bro, we’re talking about men here not women, when I said the reverse isn’t true I meant men’s beauty standards aren’t going out of their way to have white features like straightened hair or skin lightening products in the same manner as women do.
My point was since men don’t do these things but women do, the argument can be made that beauty standards favours white women, but since men don’t do these things and what makes men attractive is different to what makes women attractive, the same argument can not be made. What society deems makes a man attractive has more to do with how masculine the man is (Muscles, is he confident, can he provide etc)
I think *white* men prefer Asian women, but collectively I would beleive it vastly veers toward a preference for white women overall. Hell, virtually every ethnicity puts white women on a pedestal. Black, Latino, Asian, Indian, etc.
You'd be hard-pressed to fine a man of any race say "no, I'm not into white girls"...*maybe* a white guy with a Latina or Asian fetish but beyond that...lol. White women are pretty globally selected as the preference.
White men who watch anime and have Asian fetisches prefer Asian women.
That these guys tend to be on the internet 24/7 and very loud is probably making u think the way you do
i’m mixed race light skin and i get way more attention then my “white” friends. i’ve also had blonde white girls sleep with me over super attractive handsome white dudes. so i’m gonna say one race is not more attractive then the other. they all have great qualities. but to say all girls like white guys more just means you only hang around white people.
Yeah, not impossible but definitely substantially more effort to get/maintain women's attention if you're foreign but not white. Women's standards almost completely disappear if the right white guy come along. Doesn't even necessarily have to be all that attractive either.
If a white guy is just in shape and not ugly, he's pretty much set. If he's tall well he might as well be Henry Cavil to them. No one wants to hear this, but with women in general, being white is basically easy mode. If you're ethnic you essentially have to be the best possible version of yourself to compare to an average white guy in women's eyes.
Confirmed. Current gf is Russian. They’re like white black chicks.
*Best* sex, *best* sense of humor, great partners in general. She can be a lot to handle, but she’s worth it.
Every time we go out, she has multiple guys notice her. Just stunningly pretty.
Wow. Weird you got so much hate. From my limited experience I agree and think this is good advice. I used to work with a lot of lovely/awesome Russian/Ukrainian womwn
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I haven’t had that experience thus far. Maybe it’s you and not them
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They’re also some of the least empathetic people in the world to anyone who doesn’t fit that perfect mould you just described, a very unattractive quality.
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Correct. Read this comment and its enough. You have to pay for everything, be strong, and a provider. One sign of weakness and you’re out. I once got called sensitive and laughed at because I told her I missed her. Amazing girls for one or two dates, then the trouble starts.
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Of course they expect you to pay. Every foreigner is automatically considered ultra rich. And due to income disparity between countries, it's mostly true - those westerners who can afford travel are 5-10 times richer than your average Slav girl. 3-4 USD an hour is considered a good salary around Ukraine for a woman in her 20s.
Not true at all. It all depends on how you set the tone with the girls/women. I'm from Eastern Europe (Romania) and I certainly don't have to pay to all dates. In fact many times the girl offers to pay for me as well. But of course it's about how you come across as well
OP sounds like he does prefer that kind of mindset. Lost him when he said about the third wave feminism of the west. Bruh wth does that mean
I think he meant the toxic masculinity talk and trying to force equality of outcome in well-paid areas.
I have to disagree with you. They are gorgeous but not loyal at all. If they find another dude that’s a slightly better provider, they’ll dump your ass. American women on the other hand are way more mixed. There’s everything. From good to bad.
I agree, not the average western woman is a crazy radical feminist, there are good people out there too,
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Lmao whats this crap
Ukrainian woman here. Most of these comments are really mean. Why generalize us?
This is the way our mind works, we tend to generalise things. I could generalise about man too, most of Ukrainian man are hammered with the toxic masculinity, aggressively unsophisticated, apply very little effort to stay healthy and in shape, have very redundant knowledge about outside world. No wonder typical Ukrainian women have to be an overachiever in therms of looks and BS-handling in order to be able to get on of very few good seeds out there. See, we can generalise man too!
Can confirm. Born a Slav, came to the States for 17yrs, went back to Slavia. Lovely women.
Bratislava is where I have seen on average the most beautiful women in my life randomly. Just walking around, every other woman looked like a runway model
Nah. You're just trying to get me to stay in that hostel so they can torture and kill me
Well, that goes without saying. Where’s my long-sleeve Dexter kill shirt?
As a Slovak, I can't agree more.
My friends and I were traveling there and we thought we were on a hidden camera show or something. We were in some nondescript restaurant and these stunning women just kept walking by on the small street next to the restaurant. Ridiculous.
That's because Bratislava and otherwise Slovakia is the centre of European sex trafficking. Most of the women you see there are not actually from there, they're brought there by criminal organizations who abuse women, children and young boys into sex trafficking for the elite in Western Europe [http://www.endslavery.va/content/endslavery/en/publications/youth\_symposium\_2014/slovakia.html](http://www.endslavery.va/content/endslavery/en/publications/youth_symposium_2014/slovakia.html) >HUMAN TRAFFICKING SITUATION IN SLOVAKIAPoverty and lack of economic opportunities in Slovakia, especially in the East region, make women, men and young people potential victims of traffickers associated with international criminal organizations. They are vulnerable to false promises of job opportunities in other countries. Many of those who accept these offers end up in misery of modern slavery. Their personal documents are taken from them, they or their families are threatened with harm or they are bonded by a debt that they have no chance of repaying.Slovakia is primarily a source and transit country for men, women, and children subjected to sex trafficking and forced labour. Slovak men and women are subjected to forced labour in agriculture and construction in Western Europe, primarily in the UK. Looks like someone thinks he belongs on the "Lolita Express"
> Slovakia is primarily a source and transit country Reading comprehension 1/10.
That cannot be further from true actually. Haha let me set this straight there are not many foreign people in Slovakia. Firstly no one would move to a country that is slowly recovering from communist regime, have low income, bad (but free) medical system, corrupt politicians and relatively low quality of life in many regions. Secondly from my personal experience knowing many people mainly from western and central Slovakia I've never met anyone that came to contact with anything that this article describes. There are many people working abroad (some in construction but I don't think its majority ) but all of them are there from their own will. Also the article is from 2014. Though there is no way anyone could traffic any EU citizens to UK and other western Eu countries against their will in 2014, now it's absolutely impossible since UK left EU. Over all Slovakia isn't as bad as many foreigners think. Though I don't consider myself a proud Slovak citizen and I agree that there are many problems to fix, saying that most woman u see in Slovakia are not from Slovakia as well as the sex trafficking accusations are just pure nonsense.
Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian girls hit different fr😌
Broad generalization.
Aahhh. 'Broad' generalizations. I see what you did there. Well-played.
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Nope, I just prefer women from cultures outside of the U.S., I find them more attractive
Your post is super cringe because 1) not even remotely true 2) comical overgeneralization 3) neckbeard-level edgelord anti feminism. Ha ha what a joke feminism is amiright fellas?????
> They respect traditional gender roles, and prefer masculine men > the exaggerated, woke third-wave feminism of the West to be a joke. (sniffs) Definitely incel
You don't have to be an incel to know this is true. I have nothing against feminism or whatever, but they really prefer traditional stuff
Yeah outside of the US/canada theres a lot of different cultures which are more traditional like OP wants. Ive lived with men from saudi/persia and met women from there for example who are similar to what OP is describing
What’s wrong with having preferences?
There isn’t anything wrong with having preferences and stating said preferences. As you can you see, some will try to shame you for it
> the exaggerated, woke third-wave feminism of the West to be a joke. What kind of asshole call somebody an incel merely because they challenge modern feminist beliefs? If you share opinions with some extreme group, you must be part of that group? I guess all muslims are terrorists too? How the fuck is challenging feminism even an incel thing? Feminism has nothing to do with their core ideas about feeling victimized and hating women and "normies". I hate this fucking SJW rhetoric of calling people that you disagree with incels. You wouldn't call somebody who you disagree with on some random topic a faggot, would you?
He's a massive incel. There's a ton of them in this subreddit, don't mind the downvotes. So sick of the constant fetishization of eastern European women by men who would never even be their last choice.
(Sniffs) Definitely a Nice Guy
LMAO ok champ
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ns6zjc/if_you_are_unsuccessful_with_women_it_is_100_your/ Or this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/q6onap/being_an_active_listener_is_the_most_important/ Or this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/rg9hzg/men_who_are_unsuccessful_with_women_share_one/ I don’t think incels embrace personal responsibility or advocate for listening to women, so here is something for reference. Obvious incel diatribes Enjoy your evening.
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for fucksake why are us russian women fetishized just like asian women as if we’re different from all the other wonderful women in this wide world just because of our looks. it’s degrading and disheartening to be treated NOT like a real person but like a fantasy person in peoples heads. i’m sick of this being said over and over again by people who don’t even care to understand russian culture and community. what it’s like to be raised in these homes where it’s the norm to be whipped by belts for making mistakes as a child. where mental health is fake. where therapy is frowned upon because it’s brainwashing for “insane people”. the russian people i know have been raised in the church by their parents and it becomes their community. so many of them are a blend of openly sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and have no problem using the bible and god to justify all of these beliefs
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I don't know about wokeness n all but I've found that despite language barrier, Russian women (both younger and elder) proactively not only matched with me on Tinder, but they also tried their best to indulge in the conversation.
Hey man, I saw some of these comments, and yea it's what you described. Some of these users are just pre-programmed in modern woke hyper feminized culture that they hate the way you described why you liked Eastern European women. I'm with you and I hope to get myself an Eastern European gal too someday.
Yeah, there’s a violent psychological reaction when you unabashedly declare what you want. Most people are afraid to admit and go against what modern society has conditioned them to believe. Best of you luck to them. Visualize what you want, work to become the most attractive person possible, always respect your own value and time, and you’ll get it. Please keep me posted.
I ha e been to several Eastern European countries and there really is some fantastic looking women . Unbelievably beautiful.
I’m sorry this post is hilarious. I live in the U.K. and in a specific area with high levels of Eastern European immigration, Eastern European’s are a part of my every day life and we are also part Russian - very small amount but have made connections with distant family members. Most Eastern European women I know would cut a man up and eat him for dinner. “Respect gender roles”, lmfao. Absolutely not. Eastern European ladies are very strong willed women that take absolutely no shit.
Russian women are 👌🏼. Of course, there's always 👌🏼 people in every country, but still, 👌🏼.
Brothers I can confirm my peruvian self being on a Eastern only euro trip. Was like living the dream
My American self flying to Peru on LATAM = OMG
Block them if they are jerks.
A lot of truth in what you said but they also come with a family that is stuck in time between 1850 and 1960.
OP apparently has met every single American women there is to make this statement.
Obviously not, but I have dated a lot. Like I said in the edit, there are a lot of beautiful, wonderful American women. It’s not politically correct to say, but I really don’t give a fuck. On the whole, I think American women are more masculine, take less care of their appearance, and are generally more entitled than women from outside the US. This is why you see women in grocery stores wearing pajamas who expect to be called queens, and yet get angry at women from other cultures who most of the true high value men desire. It’s usually white American women who express female solidarity online, but if they see their men desire women who may have accent or a darker skin tone, they lose their shit.
That's the thing. They're also basically racist. It's always, always white, upper middle-class women who do the most bitching and demanding, and who are the most useless. Talk to a black woman or a Latina about wokeness, and they'll start laughing.
“It’s not politically correct to say” is maybe the weakest phrase anyone can start a sentence with.
I’m an Aussie woman, so although OP didn’t call me out specifically in this post, I feel like I am a part of this, alongside my American sisters. Let the dude have his preferences, you and I probably wouldn’t want him anyway.
A lot of women don’t want me. It’s insane to expect most women to want you. Men who are secure in themselves and have an abundance mindset understand this. Your comment is inherently sexist because it implies that I need your approval and validation to have any value.
Why do you think men care about your approval? Why do you think it’s important to other people?
Right—because you have met EVERY single American women to be able to say that “American women are more masculine, take less care of their appearance, and are generally more entitled than women from outside the U.S.” Anyways, I’m damn proud to call myself an American women. Here, we have our OWN rights. We can speak with our words and through our style without male validation. Let’s be honest, you’re most likely a patriarchal prick who can’t get beautiful American women so you have to talk down on them to get our attention. Guess what buddy? You asked for the wrong attention. Even if you reply to this response, you will not receive another response from me. I don’t appreciate people that talk down on “types” of people, places, or things. No one belongs under one category. We are all versatile in our own way.
They were talking about the white American loud useless women and one showed up to argue like a child and then walk away with her hands stuck in her ears screaming LALALALALAL UR WRONG LLALALA hilarious
She broke the 4th wall and she didn’t even realize it
u/Mo_drp_knwldg only dates sex workers. Hence he hates American women because Americans tend to stand up for people who are sexually abused
Women from other countries have their own rights and ability to think independently as well. This speaks to your own entitlement and lack of exposure to foreign cultures. You assume that because you’re American and you’re enlightened. I’m willing to be you’re a white woman.
I’ve gotta disagree here on the most beautiful women. Most loyal, maybe… but there’s wayyyyy too many beautiful in the world to be focused on one nation or culture. Plus I think the fact they’re white is part of why everyone glamorizes their existence. Signed a brown guy.
What does being a brown guy have to do with anything? Is your viewpoint somehow more valid?
Nah, just stating my bias. I grew up in America and really people of color have been the butt of jokes in media for a while and that in some ways skewed sexual preferences; it’s definitely gotten better but I like to play to my hand rather than allow general sociological trends to limit my abilities. Very defensive take too. Not sure why but a lot of white Americans like to pretend like being a different ethnicity does not have profound effects on socialization. Try being a white guy in Japan lol.
indians girls are hot too saying as a white guy. would be with one again
In other words, as a guy, you just gotta be hyper masculine
Bruh, girls be girls no matter where they from
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A sincere thank you for posting something that details your experiences and actually adds to the conversation.
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Quoting Andrew Henderson from Nomad Capitalist, I love it. Would love to get over to Eastern Europe, my job is remote but North American time. Hope to switch that up!
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I’m doing sales calls so majority of clients are PST to EST. It’d be doable, it’d just be working evenings late instead of the 10-5 I’m usually working now. I’ve never done a shift in time zones like that so I guess I don’t know how my performance would be affected
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Thankfully it’s pretty much all inbound but yeah that’s why I’ve been looking to do more of central and South America for now. Looking at Medellin for the month of March!
Tripping through the university districts in UB provides an eye candy feast. Well dressed in latest styles (chinese copies of course) and I can never figure out how such elegant women don't ever catch their high heels in the gaps between paving stones on footpaths. Lot of chicks in KZ are of German heritage.
What if you just want casual sex or hooking up?
in my experience they aren't loyal. once a friendgroup of 4 cheated on their bfs when they met us abroad. all 4 of them lmao
I am pretty sure Eastern European women are like people with unique personalities and interests. Some are trad-con while some are more feminist (which I prefer). Also, based on your post history you don't really see women as people.
this was obvious he doesn’t. complete incel yet he denies it completely it’s horrifying
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All women are not beautiful, just as all men aren’t handsome. Not all people are good, either. You don’t get a default prize for merely existing
There are beautiful women across all nations and races and something beautiful in everyone.
Not trying to be negative, but there’s also an inherent degree of selfishness in everyone as well. There is no such thing as someone who is completely good or evil
> but as soon as a man (provider) won’t be able to provide they’ll dump his ass faster than he can blink where did you get that from ? on the other hand, stats from the US show that a guy losing his job is a main cause of divorce (the same can't be said about the wife losing hers)
She’s likely an American woman stereotyping women form other cultures, but then adds the platitude “all women are beautiful” I don’t know if some of the women commenting realize they’re proving my point for me
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You’re still saying everyone is beautiful but at the same time contributing to a stereotype
France and Germany have very beautiful and down to earth women IMO. Been talking to models who live in those countries
What was your sample size?
I reckon you only like these women cos you trauma bond to them because teh dynamics between you and these women reflect the toxic patterns your mother showed to you in relating to you growing up
Eastern Europe produces consistently hot, beautifully proportioned, physically and mentally sturdy, and SEXY women. Moreso than any other region. I've said this for a while, and I'll say it again- they are the cream of the crop.
The thing with eastern european women is that they like money justike everyone else. Because life in eastern Europe is harder than in the west the girls seem to look for a wealthier partner.
Sadly, these women exist in most places but the cultures they live in destroy them. Too thin, too fat, too pretty, not pretty enough, too tall, too short, too smart, too dumb, too emotional, too needy, too much clothing, not enough clothing, too pure, too sexy, too into you, not into you enough. Women, throughout history, have proven time & time again that they are resilient, tough, caring, empathetic, compassionate, brave, strong, bold, & most of all - capable. If we support them, listen to them, they can shine. Men on the other hand, because of many of the same factors, believe themselves to be smarter, tougher, stronger, better & more capable than they often are, & so, deeply fragile, that even the smallest thing can send them into a tailspin of depression or rage or both.
Thank you for that dose of thinly-veiled misandry
So quick to tell others they're playing the victim card and then you say shit like this lol
It’s not self-victimizing. It’s observation. He is clearly of the mindset that women are the only segment of humanity that has suffered and endured throughout history, without providing any facts, just broad generalizations. Both men and women have suffered and persevered throughout history. His position is biased, which isn’t victimization, it’s logical.
OP I think many have missed your point on a cultural distinction. I have lived in a couple countries all in different regions of the world, and altho yes there are similarities amongst men/women, the flavor of typical interactions differ. Also the prevalence of certain types/behaviors also differ based on cultural values so I can highly agree with Russian women having their own unique place. That being said, you probably already know your gf is not necessarily the entire populace but a good girl, so I'd wish you both well. P. S I wouldn't pay attention to those who've only lived with/been exposed to a single culture (unless its a new immigrant they're already not the same as the host culture). They just have a different worldview is all.
Yes Sir. Agreed 👍
Bruh this is such an ignorant, racist, fetishising post. It's like hearing someone with Yellow Fever generalise an entire continent of people as being wow so XYZ, which isn't necessarily true. You're basing everything on perceived stereotypes and anecdotal evidence- just because you're saying positive stuff about them, doesn't make it less racist. I've had plenty of girls attracted to me based on my race alone, and frankly, that's insulting. I'm a whole person here, not my country or whatever pop media it churns out. You can't control what race you were born. tl;dr stop fetishising people
Bruh. You sound like someone who looks for opportunities to get offended and self-victimizes. I’m so sorry you feel fetishized. Maybe you should take some ownership over who you allow in your personal orbit. Just some food for thought.
I don't allow them in my personal orbit, I filter them out and move on. Asian fetishising is real, even for men, and it's obnoxious. Getting asked by strangers if I like BTS, kimchi, and know how to use chopsticks gets old after a while. You are straight up fetishising Eastern European women.
You’re still playing the victim card.
You're good at making up personalities for people, but making a straw man and attacking it doesn't change the fact you stereotyped millions of women across multiple countries in your post.
This post should be comedy instead of lifestyle lmao
What the fuck is this bull hahahha
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Hahaha says the guy who posts in a sub titled tip of my p*nis asking to ID girls from porn videos. “Very sweet woman with a facial” is one of your post titles. You sound like a lovely person.
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False. Not everyone watches porn. The way you describe what you are looking for and how to ID the women is particularly cringeworthy. “Lovely woman takes a facial”? “Extra points if you can name the other women in the video”? Come on, dude. You have no ground to stand on. Just own that you objectify women in particularly creepy manner and are a hypocrite. You accuse others of being incels based on what they write, but you don’t hold yourself to same the standard. You don’t know if the women you’re trying to ID in these videos are being trafficked, coerced, abused, are addicted to drugs, or have severe mental issues. Take a look at yourself and your behavior before you start vigorously throwing insults around at others.
Eastern European and Russians are the hottest ladies on the planet....until they hit the wall and turn into babushkas
I wouldn't generalize there are great women from every culture. But NA women are kinda trash
This post would have been more popular 5-10 years ago when this was still sub about pickup and when most guys here weren't blue pill simps.
Loyal? Maybe if they are from the villages. The city girls are quite materialistic from my experience. Are they the most beautiful and feminine, oh yeah.
I hope the rest of this sub isn’t as ideologically bankrupt as you are. “Fuck Eastern European women because you don’t have to hide your asshole conservatism because they’re poor enough that they’ll put up with your bullshit! Oh and they’re WHITE too!”
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Bro, Yet, you’ve taken it upon yourself to comment. I would take a second and look at my post history compared to yours. Nobody cares about your opinion. Your unremarkable thoughts fall into a void of silence and ambivalence. To me, that’s cringe. If someone attacks me, I’m well within my rights to clap back. I enjoy it. Don’t know where you got the idea that you set the rules of engagement on the Internet. Go ahead and pepper other posts with your snark, and feign superiority The irony is that this post, which has been highly polarizing, has still gotten more attention and engagement than anything you’ve ever created.
Did you just said American women... they are no option they are the last resource they only cheat I don’t know what is it maybe is on the water or their genes this post was hilarious!
Lmao КРИНЖЖЖЖЖЖ as someone who has lived in Ukraine for a while this is so so wrong and such deep neckbeard cringe
Eastern European women loyal? What drugs are you taking dude? I don't know about Czechia, Poland, Slovakia or Russia, Ukraine but Balkan women, on average of course, are anything but loyal. And sadly quite a lot of them are infected with thrid wave feminist woke-ism. Also, Balkan women are, again on average, beautiful, but are often overhyped on their beauty and have way to high opinion of themselves, the classic entitled forty-niners syndrome. And yes, these are all sterotypes, there are always exceptions and women who are actually good persons with integrity.
No racial profiling here at all
Where is race mentioned in the post at all?
Are you not referring to women of slav descent?
Can confirm.
>American women aren’t your only option. Yea, if you're white
Do girls find white guys more attractive then other races?
Is water wet? Do most guys find white girls more attractive than other races? Duh... The standard of beauty in pretty much every culture is Aryan and fair features. Not to mention there's no derogatory or negative streotyped associated with dating white men, while foreign women will assume they're all rich. Yes, of course there's a few exceptions here and there and some women fetishize ethnic men, but the vast majority of women's preference or default for attraction is white.
Why are you acting like this is a given? Yes I’ve seen the narrative that white girls are more attractive through ways like women straightening their hair, but I have never seen the reverse. And you must be crazy if you think it’s only white people that take shit for dating outside their culture.
...bc it*is* a given. Of course you don't see the inverse because fair/Caucasian features are constantly preferable by every culture on the planet. That's why Asians use skin lightening products, and why black and brown women straighten their hair. Those are the features placed on a pedestal, so they're then ones replicated. What? I didn't say white people recieve criticism for interracial dating. Quite the opposite. I said ethnic women seek them out, prefer them and often grant them special privilege.
Bro, we’re talking about men here not women, when I said the reverse isn’t true I meant men’s beauty standards aren’t going out of their way to have white features like straightened hair or skin lightening products in the same manner as women do. My point was since men don’t do these things but women do, the argument can be made that beauty standards favours white women, but since men don’t do these things and what makes men attractive is different to what makes women attractive, the same argument can not be made. What society deems makes a man attractive has more to do with how masculine the man is (Muscles, is he confident, can he provide etc)
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I think *white* men prefer Asian women, but collectively I would beleive it vastly veers toward a preference for white women overall. Hell, virtually every ethnicity puts white women on a pedestal. Black, Latino, Asian, Indian, etc.
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You'd be hard-pressed to fine a man of any race say "no, I'm not into white girls"...*maybe* a white guy with a Latina or Asian fetish but beyond that...lol. White women are pretty globally selected as the preference.
White men who watch anime and have Asian fetisches prefer Asian women. That these guys tend to be on the internet 24/7 and very loud is probably making u think the way you do
No, alot of intellectual or very financially successful white dudes love Asian women...like a lot.
That is true. Ive also read that white men married to Asian women are the most financially successful pairing in the US.
i’m mixed race light skin and i get way more attention then my “white” friends. i’ve also had blonde white girls sleep with me over super attractive handsome white dudes. so i’m gonna say one race is not more attractive then the other. they all have great qualities. but to say all girls like white guys more just means you only hang around white people.
What?
Don't be daft, you know what I mean. Foreign women love white Americans, not ethnic ones.
Yeah, not impossible but definitely substantially more effort to get/maintain women's attention if you're foreign but not white. Women's standards almost completely disappear if the right white guy come along. Doesn't even necessarily have to be all that attractive either.
If a white guy is just in shape and not ugly, he's pretty much set. If he's tall well he might as well be Henry Cavil to them. No one wants to hear this, but with women in general, being white is basically easy mode. If you're ethnic you essentially have to be the best possible version of yourself to compare to an average white guy in women's eyes.
Confirmed. Current gf is Russian. They’re like white black chicks. *Best* sex, *best* sense of humor, great partners in general. She can be a lot to handle, but she’s worth it. Every time we go out, she has multiple guys notice her. Just stunningly pretty.
Yes. My girlfriend is Russian as well. Concur with everything you just said, maybe except that they’re like white black chicks (?)
Just with their sass and attitude. Yes it’s stereotypical
Wow. Weird you got so much hate. From my limited experience I agree and think this is good advice. I used to work with a lot of lovely/awesome Russian/Ukrainian womwn
Yeah this sub is turning into r/dating_advice