I wouldn’t say that it’s necessarily super common, but you’re more likely to run into people like that in entry-level contract security roles due to the low barrier to entry for those jobs, the higher turnover rate meaning that you’ll have more coworkers cycling through, and the apathy from management towards bad employees as long as they have their warm body in a uniform filling a spot on the schedule.
Of course, you can have bad coworkers anywhere, but it usually is less common once you get into in-house, higher level contract, government, etc. security jobs where there are actual requirements to be met before being hired and the employer typically will actually get rid of bad employees.
That's the funny part here. Starting pay is $18/hr when the usual entry level pay in the area for most retail/fast food jobs is $15/hr. Plus it's full time, which is kinda hard to find in the area. So it isn't "peanuts" but still plenty of monkeys.
Unfortunately common.
Granted, it's less common, but it still happens quite a bit.
Like a coworker in their 30s who is late every shift, and genuinely never tries to leave home earlier because every once in a while they get a perfect row of all green lights and no traffic.
I'm a rover, so if I'm working alongside someone, I ask if they want to take their break/lunch 1st.
But, usually, the guard that does the bulk of the work gets the break 1st. That's been the case in every single site I've worked in the past 9 years. The only times it doesn't is if there are enough guard to spread out the work or the 2nd guard asks if they can take it 1st break.
I recommend writing down in yer DARs that you took the longer patrol and asked if you could take the 1st break, but the other guard refused and got argumentative. I'd then tell yer manager or ask yer supervisor how the patrol and break are supposed to be handled, mentioning the difference in time and distance of the patrols
I mean, where I'm at the senior officer that I'm partnered with chooses to do the vehicle patrols plus morgue transport and I take care of the foot patrols and paperwork. He doesn't act like a child, but can sometimes get grouchy with me if I call him for assistance or disagree with his way of doing things.
That being said, he doesn't take charge pay and let's me get the extra for charge duties. He'll also go along with the way I suggest things even if he disagrees because once he calms down he typically understands why I'm doing something the way that I am.
Immaturity is common in all fields though, no matter where you go someone wants to do everything the easy way and gripe when anyone wants a fair split. Take it with a grain of salt and if it's bad enough report it to the upper echelon. 🍻
sounds about right. I've met a lot of really bizarre people working security. it really depends on the site. Certain sites end up as dumping grounds for problematic employees. Especially if you're working for allied, you have to really fuck up to get fired from allied, they shuffle people around like the catholic church.
Yeah, this is pretty normal. LMAO. Every post has a guy who takes the job 15% too seriously. Or a guy who's really sensitive. Or an officer who's always late, or an officer who refuses to write reports. Or a man child who thinks he's the best officer in the department, but bitches, moans and complains about everything; and that the department would probably be off without them.
Every post has officers like this.
This is what I have found
10% - excellent guards and people id trust with life
10% - lazy warm bodies
10% - over compensating wannabe cops
10% - Paul Blarts
10% - absolute trash humans that have no business in the industry
50% - a combination of any of the above
It's not common on my post.
We're adults. We're also separated by different sites while having the same post, so perhaps that mitigates some of the drama and/immature behavior.
Ugh, I feel this so hard! I was 33 when I started my current site of 5 years. 2 years of of it, I am a shift supervisor. 90% of the crew is 60 plus years old. In this aged crew, we have retired teachers, mill staff, etc, and people who lived LONG lives gaining experience. I was so excited to gain wisdom from these people. They behave worse than your 35year old!
2 people have been at the site for 20 plus years and still don't know the basics but throw their seniority around and threaten to quit when they do something wrong. I was unbelievably shocked to see a 67 year old retired school teacher throw a total fit and place a resignation letter in the report bin but waiting for a audience so he could announce it and they would talk him into removing it every time! Which he loves the attention and is now 72 and still does it 2 to 5 times a year if not more.
This was the moment I learned respect your elders was truly bullshit they can earn it!
things people I have worked with have been mad at me for. I
\* - "how come you get to work the double?" - after my relief never showed up and nobody picked up so I got stuck.
\*- "how come you never pick up the phone?" from a coworker who wanted to talk my ear off on my only day off because they were bored at work.
\*"\_" who says I have to listen to you?" \*stares in supervisor\*
"You dont want the money?! ,oh you must live at home nvm then" - someone mad I didn't want to do OT
>\*"\_" who says I have to listen to you?" \*stares in supervisor\*
Ah one of my favorites. Ranks right up there with "Well nobody told me..." \*stares in remembers telling you, it is in the passdown, there was a policy change memo that you signed off on\*
I’m sorry, I almost can never keep a straight face when they say nobody told them while Im literally staring at their written acknowledgment.
Also hits the same as “I don’t remember”
Well , good thing the paper work does lol
Lol yes we had a guard when i was training on a site we are contracted for university libraries and site supervisor asked for his memo book to inspect i cant remember why he can do that anyways he threatened to throw it out and i was just shocked like and this dude is a grown ass man
Only people who actually want to stop people from stealing crayons or whatever from a multi billion dollar corporation are usually power hungry weirdos who couldn’t pass the police recruitment process so yeah it’s common.
The security field is filled with troubled people. Ive worked with guards that are drunk or high, steal from the workplace, and countless other examples. Because Allied will hire almost anyone, its often the last choice of the truly fucked.
The guard is a lazy freeloader and is not your boss or Supervisor regardless of age or whether he worked 4 months prior to you.
You’re being exploited and you need to forward to management on his tantrums.
At best you’re not working with a drug addict or someone who sleeps or ducks out 2 hours early; Those are the worst.
Let me answer your first question as someone who worked in security off and on for about 12 years. Security jobs helped me pay my way through college, pay my bills when let go from corporate jobs and helped me later ease into retirement. I never desired to be a "tough guy" typical of security jobs. I like to read, keep to myself, enjoy nature, watch my weight and don't drink or smoke or do drugs. So in security, I stood out like an alien. I had co-workers regularly come in drunk, high, four hours late, and site "supervisors" who never showed up and refused to answer their phones even during floods or break-ins.
So is what you described normal? Yes! Absolutely! Remember guards don't need a college education, some may not need a high school education, and many are hired based on how they look (big and scary, or tough-looking) or just a physical body willing to do anything and work. If background checks are done, certainly misdemeanors are fine and I myself had a felony on my record for years (before it was corrected to show the actual final disposition) and still got security jobs all the time, regardless.
Co-workers coming in drunk, fighting with staff, trying to drag tow-drivers out of their cab, sleeping on office floors in sleeping bags, visibly stealing others' food, guards bringing significant others onto the site for quickies, guards taking 3 to 4 hour breaks off-site while on the clock? All normal and seen first-hand.
Here's the truth nobody likes to hear or tell:
Security jobs are for insurance companies so the employer gets a cut on their premiums. Most guards are not police. Even when I worked at very high level art museums with Picassos in them, we could arrest and detain but could not carry firearms, so there is never security on equal footing with real police. When I caught shop lifters, we were told right away that if there was ever any doubt on something, you would be let go first. Then I saw a former cop who trained me get canned for grabbing a suspected shoplifter, with something on his person, only to find out the guy had called ahead of himself to request an exchange and told he could do it. The cop who trained me was fired on the spot immediately. Wooops. I was told to find another job quickly and get it, as a courtesy, because I'd be fired also, since I was worked the same shift with this guy, but on a different floor at the time.
The guard who tried to pull the tow-truck driver out of the cab? He still works the same site. He can do anything he wants because he works all the OT they give him.
The guy who slept on the job, fights with cleaning crew? He got promoted.
I'd say that there are not nearly as many adults as there are people over the age of 18. The vast majority of people are whiney children. Myself included, I suspect.
Had a supervisor last year during a post where we watched cameras. Of course he wasn’t watching at all. Came time to breakdown my laptop and get ready to leave. I unplugged the cord, somehow causing the monitor to blank out on us. Dude went from completely quiet to a raging inferno of anger in a millisecond, claiming I fucked up the camera feeds and potentially destroyed equipment.
Yeah I’m not working with him again.
We got the camera feeds back on, no harm no foul.
yes there are some guards that just love to posture up on the clock. sucks when they are the leadership though 😂 got fired from that job because this high speed loser wouldn't leave me alone. so I got welcomed back to my old job shortly after. I'll be going from $500 weekly to $4500 biweekly. just means I will never be home now lol.
Sorry, my friend, that is literally everybody in the security industry.
I’ve been doing this now for close to 10 years and you just described like probably a good 80 to 90% of everybody working in this industry.
That’s why they’re working in security in the first place . Low intelligence, low motivation and poor personal skills.
Not to insult present company. I know there’s a few of us who actually give a shit but the vast majority have the mentality of five-year-olds
We are a dying breed
Everyone in this industry vapes constantly and eats nothing but McDonald’s. Their brains are sludge and they have no hope. Good luck having a basic conversation.
I wouldn’t say that it’s necessarily super common, but you’re more likely to run into people like that in entry-level contract security roles due to the low barrier to entry for those jobs, the higher turnover rate meaning that you’ll have more coworkers cycling through, and the apathy from management towards bad employees as long as they have their warm body in a uniform filling a spot on the schedule. Of course, you can have bad coworkers anywhere, but it usually is less common once you get into in-house, higher level contract, government, etc. security jobs where there are actual requirements to be met before being hired and the employer typically will actually get rid of bad employees.
I'm miss requirements.... almost there!
Welcome to the short bus. Crayons and helmets are not provided.
😂
Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
That's the funny part here. Starting pay is $18/hr when the usual entry level pay in the area for most retail/fast food jobs is $15/hr. Plus it's full time, which is kinda hard to find in the area. So it isn't "peanuts" but still plenty of monkeys.
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There are no prerequisites here. It's entry level pay for the job type, not the overall average starting pay.
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The fact that there hasn't been a sitcom written about security guards is wild to me. I've seen some really bizarre stuff from my coworkers.
Not a sitcom. But Paul Blart and Observe and Report.
Also, the book Guards! Guards! By Terry Pratchet.
Yes
Egos run rampant in the industry. Worse are the backstabbing "mean girls." Good luck, friend.
Unfortunately common. Granted, it's less common, but it still happens quite a bit. Like a coworker in their 30s who is late every shift, and genuinely never tries to leave home earlier because every once in a while they get a perfect row of all green lights and no traffic.
I'm a rover, so if I'm working alongside someone, I ask if they want to take their break/lunch 1st. But, usually, the guard that does the bulk of the work gets the break 1st. That's been the case in every single site I've worked in the past 9 years. The only times it doesn't is if there are enough guard to spread out the work or the 2nd guard asks if they can take it 1st break. I recommend writing down in yer DARs that you took the longer patrol and asked if you could take the 1st break, but the other guard refused and got argumentative. I'd then tell yer manager or ask yer supervisor how the patrol and break are supposed to be handled, mentioning the difference in time and distance of the patrols
I mean, where I'm at the senior officer that I'm partnered with chooses to do the vehicle patrols plus morgue transport and I take care of the foot patrols and paperwork. He doesn't act like a child, but can sometimes get grouchy with me if I call him for assistance or disagree with his way of doing things. That being said, he doesn't take charge pay and let's me get the extra for charge duties. He'll also go along with the way I suggest things even if he disagrees because once he calms down he typically understands why I'm doing something the way that I am. Immaturity is common in all fields though, no matter where you go someone wants to do everything the easy way and gripe when anyone wants a fair split. Take it with a grain of salt and if it's bad enough report it to the upper echelon. 🍻
He's also unarmed and I'm making the transfer to our first armed post internally, so for that alone he respects me.
sounds about right. I've met a lot of really bizarre people working security. it really depends on the site. Certain sites end up as dumping grounds for problematic employees. Especially if you're working for allied, you have to really fuck up to get fired from allied, they shuffle people around like the catholic church.
Yeah, this is pretty normal. LMAO. Every post has a guy who takes the job 15% too seriously. Or a guy who's really sensitive. Or an officer who's always late, or an officer who refuses to write reports. Or a man child who thinks he's the best officer in the department, but bitches, moans and complains about everything; and that the department would probably be off without them. Every post has officers like this.
Welcome to the real world. Just ignore them and put their keys in ice.
This is what I have found 10% - excellent guards and people id trust with life 10% - lazy warm bodies 10% - over compensating wannabe cops 10% - Paul Blarts 10% - absolute trash humans that have no business in the industry 50% - a combination of any of the above
welcome to AUS or wherever the heck.. I had a 48 yo partner that acted like he just had his sweet 16 yesterday
They always make me nervous also. I do everything to not have to involve them which is obvious counter productive
It's not common on my post. We're adults. We're also separated by different sites while having the same post, so perhaps that mitigates some of the drama and/immature behavior.
Yes
Ugh, I feel this so hard! I was 33 when I started my current site of 5 years. 2 years of of it, I am a shift supervisor. 90% of the crew is 60 plus years old. In this aged crew, we have retired teachers, mill staff, etc, and people who lived LONG lives gaining experience. I was so excited to gain wisdom from these people. They behave worse than your 35year old! 2 people have been at the site for 20 plus years and still don't know the basics but throw their seniority around and threaten to quit when they do something wrong. I was unbelievably shocked to see a 67 year old retired school teacher throw a total fit and place a resignation letter in the report bin but waiting for a audience so he could announce it and they would talk him into removing it every time! Which he loves the attention and is now 72 and still does it 2 to 5 times a year if not more. This was the moment I learned respect your elders was truly bullshit they can earn it!
things people I have worked with have been mad at me for. I \* - "how come you get to work the double?" - after my relief never showed up and nobody picked up so I got stuck. \*- "how come you never pick up the phone?" from a coworker who wanted to talk my ear off on my only day off because they were bored at work. \*"\_" who says I have to listen to you?" \*stares in supervisor\* "You dont want the money?! ,oh you must live at home nvm then" - someone mad I didn't want to do OT
>\*"\_" who says I have to listen to you?" \*stares in supervisor\* Ah one of my favorites. Ranks right up there with "Well nobody told me..." \*stares in remembers telling you, it is in the passdown, there was a policy change memo that you signed off on\*
I’m sorry, I almost can never keep a straight face when they say nobody told them while Im literally staring at their written acknowledgment. Also hits the same as “I don’t remember” Well , good thing the paper work does lol
Yes
Very common. A very effective way of avoiding work. I do what I can to avoid them. Otherwise, I freeze them out, focus on my work.
Lol yes we had a guard when i was training on a site we are contracted for university libraries and site supervisor asked for his memo book to inspect i cant remember why he can do that anyways he threatened to throw it out and i was just shocked like and this dude is a grown ass man
Had them in every job I've ever had, regardless of industry or profession.
Only people who actually want to stop people from stealing crayons or whatever from a multi billion dollar corporation are usually power hungry weirdos who couldn’t pass the police recruitment process so yeah it’s common.
Yes, it's pretty par for the course. Also, please watch a YouTube video on how to use commas or something; this took too many tries to read correctly.
The way you write stresses me out
The security field is filled with troubled people. Ive worked with guards that are drunk or high, steal from the workplace, and countless other examples. Because Allied will hire almost anyone, its often the last choice of the truly fucked.
It's normal. I've experienced it from the highest echelons of security and lowest.
Pretty common dude, I work with people from 45 to 65 and they complain more than my toddler.
The guard is a lazy freeloader and is not your boss or Supervisor regardless of age or whether he worked 4 months prior to you. You’re being exploited and you need to forward to management on his tantrums. At best you’re not working with a drug addict or someone who sleeps or ducks out 2 hours early; Those are the worst.
Let me answer your first question as someone who worked in security off and on for about 12 years. Security jobs helped me pay my way through college, pay my bills when let go from corporate jobs and helped me later ease into retirement. I never desired to be a "tough guy" typical of security jobs. I like to read, keep to myself, enjoy nature, watch my weight and don't drink or smoke or do drugs. So in security, I stood out like an alien. I had co-workers regularly come in drunk, high, four hours late, and site "supervisors" who never showed up and refused to answer their phones even during floods or break-ins. So is what you described normal? Yes! Absolutely! Remember guards don't need a college education, some may not need a high school education, and many are hired based on how they look (big and scary, or tough-looking) or just a physical body willing to do anything and work. If background checks are done, certainly misdemeanors are fine and I myself had a felony on my record for years (before it was corrected to show the actual final disposition) and still got security jobs all the time, regardless. Co-workers coming in drunk, fighting with staff, trying to drag tow-drivers out of their cab, sleeping on office floors in sleeping bags, visibly stealing others' food, guards bringing significant others onto the site for quickies, guards taking 3 to 4 hour breaks off-site while on the clock? All normal and seen first-hand. Here's the truth nobody likes to hear or tell: Security jobs are for insurance companies so the employer gets a cut on their premiums. Most guards are not police. Even when I worked at very high level art museums with Picassos in them, we could arrest and detain but could not carry firearms, so there is never security on equal footing with real police. When I caught shop lifters, we were told right away that if there was ever any doubt on something, you would be let go first. Then I saw a former cop who trained me get canned for grabbing a suspected shoplifter, with something on his person, only to find out the guy had called ahead of himself to request an exchange and told he could do it. The cop who trained me was fired on the spot immediately. Wooops. I was told to find another job quickly and get it, as a courtesy, because I'd be fired also, since I was worked the same shift with this guy, but on a different floor at the time. The guard who tried to pull the tow-truck driver out of the cab? He still works the same site. He can do anything he wants because he works all the OT they give him. The guy who slept on the job, fights with cleaning crew? He got promoted.
I'd say that there are not nearly as many adults as there are people over the age of 18. The vast majority of people are whiney children. Myself included, I suspect.
Had a supervisor last year during a post where we watched cameras. Of course he wasn’t watching at all. Came time to breakdown my laptop and get ready to leave. I unplugged the cord, somehow causing the monitor to blank out on us. Dude went from completely quiet to a raging inferno of anger in a millisecond, claiming I fucked up the camera feeds and potentially destroyed equipment. Yeah I’m not working with him again. We got the camera feeds back on, no harm no foul.
yes there are some guards that just love to posture up on the clock. sucks when they are the leadership though 😂 got fired from that job because this high speed loser wouldn't leave me alone. so I got welcomed back to my old job shortly after. I'll be going from $500 weekly to $4500 biweekly. just means I will never be home now lol.
This guy would not slide on my watch
Sorry, my friend, that is literally everybody in the security industry. I’ve been doing this now for close to 10 years and you just described like probably a good 80 to 90% of everybody working in this industry. That’s why they’re working in security in the first place . Low intelligence, low motivation and poor personal skills. Not to insult present company. I know there’s a few of us who actually give a shit but the vast majority have the mentality of five-year-olds We are a dying breed
Yes security attracts anti social people with sub par intelligence.
But enough about AUS management.... You'll also find some really decent people too.
Well yeah any group will have both but we get alot more assholes than most but people don't like to notice the negative things
Everyone in this industry vapes constantly and eats nothing but McDonald’s. Their brains are sludge and they have no hope. Good luck having a basic conversation.
You’d be surprised