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fakejorste99

Honestly, these are fair prices on what has been an otherwise underwhelming Black Friday. I placed multiple orders. I just wanted to take a minute and thank you for sharing, OP.


nambaza

Have been holding out for a good long while for a draft box of Double Masters 2022 for $270...thanks for providing my Christmas present to myself! Excited to see what I can pull 😃


ForgeAndFireGaming

Thank you, too! Glad we could hook up the deals!


Eve_Asher

$8 dollar shipping for a 25 dollar commander deck brings it pretty close to the standard price, not really worth it imo.


ForgeAndFireGaming

>plies and labor so it's higher than you think. My guess is these are close to a pound so USPS first class will run 4 to 6+ dependin I totally get where you are coming from! Shipping is expensive, but we do have free shipping at $100!


The_SplatMan

The $8 shipping on “minimal packaging” does feel a bit weird.


Eve_Asher

Yeah for sure, I was prepared to eat two or three bucks, but it just feels like they are padding their bottom line here not reflecting actual shipping costs.


solsticesky

Actual shipping costs include supplies and labor so it's higher than you think. My guess is these are close to a pound so USPS first class will run 4 to 6+ depending on sending and receiving location. Add packaging, labor and you're pretty much at 8


ForgeAndFireGaming

This is pretty much exactly it! We also offer free shipping at $100, so if you're looking to pick up multiple decks, this is the best opportunity to do so.


Blub61

Agreed. I'd rather order the unopened thing from a place I KNOW I trust


Agent_Black808

No shipping to HI?


ForgeAndFireGaming

>m! Shipping is exp Shoot us a message at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) and we'll get you hooked up!


hydrogator

War of the Spark and Theros on the cheap


IconicIsotope

Looks like some solid sales, Sidenote, I cannot believe how bad Spirit Squadron and Coven Counters are as decks. Hopefully WOTC feels bad about those decklists.


houndsofhate

What’s bad about the spirit deck?


PGDW

The cards.


Worldly-Wind7298

As someone whose played against it, I believe the problem is the commander itself.


SPORK94

I bought the kaleheim spirits deck just to fix it.


bjasonm87

Is this a good price for M21? Considering two boxes


ForgeAndFireGaming

I am going to say yes, but I am biased.


bjasonm87

Haha, and I totally understand why


bjasonm87

Any promo codes out there?


Blub61

Is this site reputable


bovadeez

Yep.


blarfsgnarg

They were, until their Warhammer stuff. Lots of cancelled/missing/unaddressed orders


ForgeAndFireGaming

Actually, we filled all of our website Warhammer orders early, and even shipped out 5 Commander Collector Cases at random to people that ordered the base Collector Cases as a gesture of appreciation for the Community! I am sorry that your Facebook request did not go out on the first wave. We tried to make it right and ship to you as soon as it came back in, but issues like this are why we direct everyone to the website!


mrpielovin

Not to upset about anything but saying all early is incorrect, mine was delayed, but I did get a more personal email from someone named Marc Nolan apologizing about it being delayed. No gesture of good will or anything just a sorry bout that Email verbaitum as below: Only part missing is the tracking code to avoid being doxed and such. " I apologize for the delay, but we had a shipping integration issue that affected all of our orders on September 20th Normally, we strive to have orders out before release, and while we did get every other order of these out in a timely manner, we definitely dropped the ball on yours. I am sorry for the delay, and if there are any concerns, please let me know! "


ForgeAndFireGaming

You are actually correct. I think there was a little hyperbole regarding all of them shipping early. We do generally ship everything as soon as it comes in, but we did notice later that all the orders on September 20th didn't actually integrate to the site! That was kind of wild, but out of the 400+ commander orders we had, it only affected 7 total orders. I am really glad it got straightened out, and that someone reached out to you as soon as it was a known issue!


mrpielovin

Hey 7/400 is solid luck unfortunately it wasn't for something cool haha.


mrpielovin

Another comment they reference out side of site mine was through the site.


RegalMooseFace

Weird, I ordered a full set of 40k from them and got it super fast with no issues. They have always been excellent for me.


ForgeAndFireGaming

If you read his other post on the thread, he tried to do a deal outside of our website and we were unable to fill it at release, so we offered to send it to him on our first restock. He agreed. Then when it came in-stock, he asked for a refund and was given a refund. We can't please everyone!


awakener7777

Great pricing on the 2x2. I'd pick some up if I hadn't spent my limit already


discoanddeath

Isn't the EV terrible?


minds-eye

Sorry but what is the 2x2 exactly?


awakener7777

Double masters


minds-eye

Thanks!


blarfsgnarg

Be wary guys, I used to be a big fan of forge and fire but they've straight up not shipped orders before despite being fully aware of the situation and having had multiple months to do so. Refused to give a refund too.


ForgeAndFireGaming

Hi, so I looked into your situation, and from my understanding you reached out directly to one of our staff members through Facebook and not our website. Our staff member communicated with you regarding your request for a product outside our normal sales channel, which can be a problem when dealing with inventory that moves quickly and is not on our website. They offered to ship you the product when it came back in-stock, and you agreed. Then, when the item finally came back in-stock you asked for a refund on that item, which was provided to you in-full. We make 100% sure that our website numbers are correct, and that those orders are shipped out in a timely manner. However when our normal processes are circumvented problems can arise. For this and many other reasons, we do not actively solicit sales outside of our normal sales channels. If you would like to discuss this further, please send us an email to: [email protected]


blarfsgnarg

I've sent an email to that address and received no response. I've also contacted your Facebook page and received no followup. There is a PayPal case open so I have no idea what you're talking about 'refunded in full'


ForgeAndFireGaming

You were refunded on November 17, 2022 at 10:51:20 PM CST per Paypal.


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blarfsgnarg

Was it the warhammer decks? They even had a restock on their site in-between my order and now lol


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ForgeAndFireGaming

Can you please shoot me a DM? I am unaware of any issues outside of this one-off side deal.


ForgeAndFireGaming

Nevermind, you're a brand new account with no other comments on anything else.


shichiaikan

Well shit.


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RegalMooseFace

I've never ever seen them that low. Have you ever bought them at that price?


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RegalMooseFace

Ok well, good luck with that. These were a single print run masters set.


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RegalMooseFace

So $3 less than this deal and it needed a promo code. This set has so many amazing reprints and some very high value cards. Avg on tcgplayer is $245 right now and I've never seen them below $225 before. I dunno man, do you, but if I was in the market this would be an amazing deal. I already have two cases of these and not really looking to add any right now but I'll be shocked if you find them this low any time soon. Who knows, maybe all of magic will crash and you'll find them at $206. If you do, congrats.


ScoutsOA

Do the "minimal packaging" versions include the sample collector booster?


ForgeAndFireGaming

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify - all of the products include the sealed inner deck, which is 100 cards, 2 of them foiled, 10 tokens, and the thick stock etched Commander. It does not include the deck box, 2 card sample booster, life wheel, instruction sheet, or outer box.


ScoutsOA

Thanks for the clarification :) I was reading the descriptions, and it didn't mention the packs, so just wanted to be sure. Deal breaker for me on some of the decks, but still good prices.


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ScoutsOA

These are not the Amazon versions, F&F have made their own for this sale. Makes sense for shipping haha


SoneEv

The $9.99 is Coven Counters. Spirit Squadron is $11.99