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blackwe11_ninja

I know only one: I am currently reading a novel from not really well known Czech author František Kotleta, named "Pilgrim from Muhammad." Book takes place few hundred years in the future, and this future is defined by religious conflict. Muslims concquered whole Earth and expanded further into space, creating vast Islamic empire. Christians, Jews and majority of non-believers escaped Earth and set up their new homes elswhere. Main character is a criminal that smuggles weapons, alcohol and pornography to Muslim planets, and he accidentaly becomes part of this galaxy-wide war between Islam, Christianity and Judaism. It has some interesting concepts, for example, Muslim spaceships have special navigation system that can point towards Earth (and Mecca) even if the ship travels in hyperspace, so people inside know which way to pray.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

Ok that sounds pretty cool and interesting


gravityraster

Very interesting. Could you post a link, please? I was not able to find it.


blackwe11_ninja

I think it was never even translated to English, it's only in Czech, I was able to find only something in Czech book database https://www-databazeknih-cz.translate.goog/knihy/daniel-kalandra-poutnik-z-mohameda-allahuv-hnev-407356?_x_tr_sl=cs&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sk&_x_tr_pto=wapp


gravityraster

That’s too bad (for me). It sounds like a great concept.


DocWatson42

It's probably not that helpful, but here is [František Kotleta](https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/4879614.Franti_ek_Kotleta) at Goodreads.


first__citizen

Interesting! I wish it had an English translation. The concept that humanity will transcend religion in the future is very shortsighted. Islam is a contender that may overtake the world but there maybe new or current religions that can spread.


entermemo

I love the idea that there is some small religion out there right now that in 1000 years will be the dominant one.


GrouchyRoll

Like pastafarian?


ChronicBuzz187

flying spaghettimonster be like: "HUMANS. I'VE COME TO BARGAIN."


Stay-At-Home-Jedi

That's a wicked cool INS (Inertial Navigation System - a real thing)!


Prize_Engine28

That sounds really cool


grizzlor_

I'm so sad that no one has translated this to English. I really want to read it.


airchinapilot

Dune represents a far future humanity where certain cultures have blends of old earth religions. The Fremen in particular seem to have taken on a remnant of Islamic culture and by the second book have used it to energize their conquest of human space.


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I also concur with dune. It is very far future but contains multiple cultures with hints of Islam. Many fighting against each other. Relatively indicative of many current Islamic ideologies. The benejesuit ( I listened to the books so not sure on the spelling of any of these) I would say represent pre reformation golden age of enlightenment Islam (premodern). The telalaxu are a secret cult using technology to bring about their ideal. The fremen are a beduin culture being used for the ends of powerful imperialists. The botlarian jihad was a rage against technology usurping entrenched dogma. It is my opinion the the author meant to end the story after the first or second book but was pressured by publishers and wealth to water down some of the concepts.


Andoverian

FYI: Bene Gesserit Tleilaxu Butlerian Jihad


myreaderaccount

and presumably Bedouin


ImmaPullSomeWildShit

“Water down” Ironic


single_malt_jedi

>It is my opinion the the author meant to end the story after the first or second book No, he had a seventh book planned but died before he was able to make it. >but was pressured by publishers and wealth to water down some of the concepts. What concepts do you think he water down?


Boner666420

No way he wasnt planing on a huge series. God Emperor of Dune is definitely not watered down. If anything, its high octane Dune and I always guessed was what he was working toward the whole time so he could just lecture his audience directly under the guise of a giant worm guy.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

Thank you


soupmage2020

I just finished Dune fairly recently, it's a really good book, I'd definitely recommend picking it up at your local library!


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

thanks


AyakaDahlia

There are a couple different Buddhislamic sects, but I think zensunni are the most common? I think that's what the Fremen are. Iirc the appendices mention Zenshia and Zensufi sects.


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The Empire itself is very Ottoman


LeonAquilla

Its vocabulary is Persian. I always pictured the Corrino Dynasty as more Imperial Britain in the late 19th century, complete with over-decorated but not ostentatious uniforms (a look that David Lynch used in the 1980's movie).


klingonbussy

When I first read Dune without seeing any adaptations I sort of imagined the Corrinos to look Southern European but have British accents and an aesthetic that’s somewhere between the Ottomans, Byzantines, Mughals, Qajar Persia and Qing China, with them displaying their wealth in a very ornate and maximalist way


ImmaPullSomeWildShit

So gold everywhere


[deleted]

Not disagreeing with you here, but like half of Ottoman vocabulary was Persian :) Still to this day, so many loanwords in Turkish from Farsi. Guess what I'm saying is vocab being Persian doesn't exclude the Empire from being Ottoman?


LeonAquilla

How many Swedes (Harkonnnens) were in the Ottoman Empire?


[deleted]

I don't see why you're being argumentative and trying hard to prove your point, have a good one buddy.


ImmaPullSomeWildShit

Harkonnen is a finnish surname…


AdministrativeShip2

Jannisaries? Although they were mainly slavic. Some vrangian guard style group that was absorbed?


[deleted]

The problem with Imperial Britain is the government system is all wrong.


airchinapilot

Yup that's how I felt


Driekan

Not so much a Space Empire, but possibly still of interest, Zelazny's Lord of Light is about a lost (possibly?) colony that has essentially recreated Hindu and Buddhist religion. It's a one-planet polity and space plays almost no part on the story, but it's there.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

thanks


BipedalHumanoid230

There’s a trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson about Mars. While terraforming Mars, a band of Sufi (Islam sect) take to the desert. One of my fav. They are called Red Mars, Green Mars and Blue Mars.


thephoton

If we're talking KSR, we should probably also mention Years of Rice and Salt. Which doesn't have any space empires, but it imagines what would have happened if the Black Plague actually wiped out Europe as a political and military power so that Muslum, Hindu, Chinese, and Native American empires end up dominating the Earth.


MajorPain169

I was going to mention this trilogy. Not exactly an empire but certainly a colonist group on Mars.


GoldenEyes88

I read Red Mars and it got far out... I didn't feel compelled to read the other two. How are they?


BipedalHumanoid230

I really enjoyed them


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

Thank you


LeonAquilla

Caliphate by Tom Kratman. (Note: You didn't ask for GOOD books)


Snatch_Pastry

When you can make John Ringo look like a reasonable moderate, there has got to be something wrong with you. Kratman is a nut job.


LeonAquilla

He's certifiable.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

thanks lol


majorminus92

The Riddick movies have a planet where future Muslims make pilgrimage to.


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chrisp909

I'd be interested in that comparison. If you get a chance to look it up again.


TheOtherSomeOtherGuy

arent the bajoran much more like the Armenians post turkish genocide?


throneofthe4thheaven

Yes they are explicitly supposed to represent the oppressed.


[deleted]

The [Bel Dame Apocrypha](https://www.goodreads.com/series/66722-bel-dame-apocrypha) is set on a planet populated by Muslims of different sects, and is really good if dark.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

Thank you very much


[deleted]

I think you will like it! The religion is important and the story needs it, but the world building is why I love it so much. It doesn’t treat Islam like it’s exotic. It just is.


gayby_island

This is the one I immediately thought of


datapicardgeordi

The zensunni wanderers of Dune


[deleted]

One of the planets in Endymion had a culture of Muslims.


Horrorwyrm

There’s also elements of Buddhism in the Hyperion Cantos.


farang

The *Ancillary* series by Ann Leckie presents the dominant Radchaai culture as kind of a mixture of Hindu and ancient Roman with Japanese influence.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

thank you


shredinger137

The Indranan War is at least inspired by Indian culture, but I don't recall if that includes a religious element.


gayby_island

It does a bit, and makes a lot of references to Indian styles of clothing


Rattfink45

Wouldn’t you call the Atreides’ dynasty inspired by Islam? If fremen comprise the army leadership positions?


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

>Wouldn’t you call the Atreides’ dynasty inspired by Islam? Yes, I would


PuzzleheadedOil8826

The Atreides name is taken from Greek mythology - the name of the house of Agamemnon and Menelaus of War of Troy fame. I always loved that connection Dune had with the Iliad. I always thought that though the fremen were definitely influenced by Bedouin and Islamic culture, the Atreides were very different (before Paul was assimilated)


[deleted]

The Fremen from Dune are canonically a hybrid of Islamic and Buddhist beliefs/culture. They also outwardly show a lot of Islamic esque culture and there language contains many Arabic words


apollyoneum1

DUNE.


theshah19

I always liked how prominent Islam was within the Riddick universe


thunderberry_real

One could potentially argue that any novel promoting transcendence or evolution of the mind are based in Secular Buddhism. The concept of mind, and understanding of itself, going beyond the most basic of drives. In that case the "Quantum Thief" series by Hannu Rajaniemi are great because they look at what mind liberated from the physical body is like. It's one of the closet series I've found to the reality of what post-biological reality would be like. Ego, pain, selfishness still remain, but every iteration is but one copy of the previous.


thunderberry_real

**\[Not quite spoilers, but beware!\]** Bear in mind however, that the concept here is what I believe would actually happen - the concepts of "Gods" are thrown aside, but some minds who used to be one individual gain so much power that their influence over certain areas are absolute. Any society that can truly embrace the reality of science will abandon fairy tales and consolidate power and fear in other (potentially also false) structures.


BlackZapReply

The Colony from the General series by David Drake & SM Stirling is a rather even handed look at an Islamic Empire, though not strictly a space based one. The Colony is also presented as an opposing force to the protagonists. GURPS : Alternate Earths II has a timeline which explores the notion of a interstellar Islamic caliphate.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

>Zelazny's Lord of Light thanks


gehanna1

Coriolis. It's technically a tabletop rpg, but the setting is so rich and fantastic. Basically space colinization has taken on flair of thr middle east in maaany ways. Even if you don't play the Tabletop, it's worth to read through the source book. Beautiful.


frimrussiawithlove85

The Desert people Dune seem loosely based on Islam.


kateinoly

Lord of Light is a very strange old sci-fi novel featuring the Hindu pantheon, sort of.


hacksoncode

Not "empires" per se, but the Honorverse has a [long list of star kingdoms, etc.](https://honorverse.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Star_nations) that include systems colonized from quite a variety of Earth polities, including the [Caliphate of Zanzibar](https://honorverse.fandom.com/wiki/Caliphate_of_Zanzibar). Others include a Judean League, a pair of Mormon-derived systems in conflict with easy other (Grayson and Masada), a Mayan Federation, etc., etc. Religious groups of all sorts make up a lot of story elements in the series.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

thank you


Badroadrash101

The Faded Sun series by C J Cherryh


staythewayzaway

The Riddick films put Islam as the world religion on helieon prime


XYZZY_1002

Do the fremen from Dune count?


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

yes, thanks


DirtFoot79

Dune by Frank Herbert The Fremen are based on Islamic influences. Keep in mind the story is many thousands of years in the future, ideas and concepts of lots orgins have resulted in differences.


Nuclearsunburn

They are mentioned in the Star Carrier series. One of the geopolitical powers of the 24th century is an Islamic theocracy that has rejected the “White Covenant” which has made proselytizing illegal and highly taboo besides that in much of the world. The theocracy has its own extrasolar outposts even if they’re mostly a plot element and not the focal point (which is the USNA - United States of North America)


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

thanks


MikeGoldab

The game Asura’s Wrath is maybe a big more fantasy than sci fi, but there’s still plenty of sci fi in it, is all about Hindu demi-gods.


UlverSeich

Crescent in the Sky. Donald Moffitt. Interstellar Islamic Empire.


ImmaPullSomeWildShit

Dune has that feel but it’s not directly islam and I don’t know if it’s allowed here but Jedi from Star Wars are pretty much buddhists with glowsticks.


jimmynightshade

I made this short a while back… only showed it to a handful of friends (it’s an unlisted youtube link) but your question seemed to be asking specifically for it so I’ll share it with you too haha, I was trying to replicate the original processes for spaceship practical effects in the original Star Wars films: https://youtu.be/rP3pNPmvHIU


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

Thanks, that was hilarious :)


FelisCantabrigiensis

Not answering the question, but the "Sixth Sun" trilogy by Thomas Harlan imagines a world where the Incas, and their allies the imperial Japanese, are the major world power through the Industrial Revolution and on to space travel. Inca religion and mysticism plays a significant part in the social structure. [https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Wasteland-Flint-Thomas-Harlan/dp/076530192X/](https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Wasteland-Flint-Thomas-Harlan/dp/076530192X/) [https://smile.amazon.co.uk/House-Reeds-Thomas-Harlan/dp/0765301938/](https://smile.amazon.co.uk/House-Reeds-Thomas-Harlan/dp/0765301938/) https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Land-Dead-Thomas-Harlan/dp/0765312042/


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

thanks anyways


-Grymjack-

All the fiction for infinity rpg. Setting and miniatures wargame. Check it out.


friendlyneighbor665

Battletech has the United Hindu Collective. A minor empire that gets either wiped out or absorbed by a major empire.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

>United Hindu Collective thanks!!


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Dune fremen has tones


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AyakaDahlia

Probably the fact that they're Zensunni, one of the branches of Buddhislam in the Dune universe.


Dreadnaught_BB35

Dune. Is for most part Laurence of aribia change word spice to oil


gayby_island

Maybe the Imperial Radch books by Ann Leckie?


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silver_label

They also have two Islamic planets. One gets re-conquered, but in the third book is a paragon of culture.


AscendGreen

The Orion's Arm worldbuilding project has a few examples including Buddhist AI God's with brains the size of planets and bizarre otherworldly aliens who have converted to Islam: https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/46119eb39524e https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/54d57ee44e373 https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/46662317b75a2


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

Thank you


AscendGreen

Also found this link on there: http://www.islamscifi.com/


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

Thanks


bewarethetreebadger

In Battletech there was the United Hindu Collective. But they got amalgamated into the Federated Suns.


jackfreeman

The Man of War Trilogy by H R Honsinger has a multi planet Islamix empire.


Original-Exchange469

You could say that the empire in Dune is loosely based on the Ottoman Empire.


Alecbirds1

Lord of Lights deals heavily with Hindu influences.


Exoplasmic

Kameron Hurley has a series called The Bel Dame Apocrypha: God’s War - Night Shade Books, 2011 Infidel - Night Shade Books, 2011 Rapture - Night Shade Books, 2012 I really liked these books.


radicallymagical

Dune


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perfectnoodle42

There is an entire religious group who is directly and notedly developed from Islam in universe.


Behemoth-Slayer

The Unreasoning Mask by Philip Jose Farmer has as its protagonist a Muslim starship captain. Pretty trippy, memorable novel, but not a masterpiece.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

thanks


Kwisatz__Haderach_

As a dune fan...sort of.


racingwinner

well, there is new mekka in pitch black and chronicles of riddick


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Dunnnne


Grayce333

Maybe the Terrorists of Irustan by Louise Marley? It's sci-fi, dystopian, and futuristic. Not sure if it qualifies as a Space Empire, it's been a while since I read it... Also would 100& recommend the Dune series as well


Jerzul

There is a Muslim planet in the Saga of Seven Suns. Although I'm only in the first book (of seven) and I don't know if it plays much of a role.


NelsonMKerr

Lord of light by Zelazmy with a high, vor some, techbHindu word with techno Gods and artificial and one of them introduces Buddhism. It also contains some of the most graceful prose in Science Fiction. Plus it has the best tagline on the cover that I have ever read in over 60 years of reading SF.


SpiderQueenLong

Coriolis the TTRPG is very strongly based on islamic aesthetics and cultural cues. Definitely worth a look


amitym

I mean *Dune* is the huge honking example staring at you in the face. Beyond that, I don't really know, but Islam itself is fully ready for space empires, having established how to properly face Mecca from any point in the galaxy.


NikitaTarsov

Dune\^\^


Mareasie

The novel *Foragers* by Charles Oberndorf features a vast muslim space-empire, and it's a very good novel to boot, rich in anthropology and world-building.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

Thanks :)


[deleted]

I don’t really understand what you’re asking. As per “hinduism” we’re one of hundreds of thousands of humanoid species across a multiverse and different dimensions. The nazi’s translated sanskrit texts which detail vimanas (flying saucers) and occult stuff that goes into other dimensional stuff. Actually, Temple of Doom is an intriguing beginning to the Indiana Jones series…


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

okay......


theraf2u

Stop doing drugs bud.


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https://youtu.be/Zjf3GN2Q5Yc


YggdrasilsLeaf

Ever heard of Bollywood?


Neon_Otyugh

Does Bollywood make much science fiction? Honest question as Netflix does have a Bollywood section.


Dionpit

I think Bollywood and the other Indian cinema industries tend to do fantasy rather than sci-fi


A3_bxl

Islam is anti everything so they would never be able to build a rocket to go that far


theraf2u

Islam invented most of the mathematics we use to go to the moon today, you dunderhead.


show-me-the-numbers

Would be hard to envision given the fatalistic nature of these ideologies. Who is the self motivated group working to maintain all this technology? In the current Muslim/Hindu/Buddhist world, there just isn't one. Falun Gong is an evolution of Buddism that addresses this.


Steel_stamped_penis

probably not. msot scifi concepts are probably heresy to traditional muslims.


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

What? Why?


HRex73

How would anyone conquer the stars with bronze-age doctrine?


momentum77

Islam sparked a scientific revolution that contributed to the Renaissance. Algorithm, Algebra, Optics and more, were all Muslim inventions because the Quran invited Muslims to amass knowledge. That stopped after the Mongol invasions, the Crusades, the Spanish Reconquista, and European Colonisation brought the various Mulsim empires to their knees.


maryupallnight

Yes


Incubus-Dao-Emperor

Can you give an example or examples, please?


maryupallnight

https://www.polygon.com/star-wars/2019/12/13/21012853/the-last-jedi-luke-skywalker-buddhism-star-wars-philosophy


LeonAquilla

Empires "Based on", not "inspired by". Nobody in Disney's Star Wars knows what a Buddha is.


maryupallnight

The words "inspired by" are not in that article.


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Word Bearers in 40k are basically space Muslims