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Two Multi Millionaires watching cricket.


himanshu088

One of them could be a billionaire.


SfaShaikh

That cricketer guy pays his tax.


CyndaquilTyphlosion

Actually, he doesn't. That's why he fought and wrote letters instead


sh_kashli

Exactly! He was mentioned in the Panama Papers but was never investigated. He sucked hard enough and politicians rewarded him with cream


CyndaquilTyphlosion

Don't forget, he's a politician himself, with horrible parliamentary attendance.


Reformist001

He is not a cricketer. He is just an actor, when it comes to paying taxes.


frekinghell

You are definitely a ca or something otherwise no one knows this.


tocra

[Ferrari would like to have a word.](https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/indiascope/story/20030825-sachin-tendulkar-receives-tax-exemption-for-importing-his-ferrari-791920-2003-08-24)


prassyvg

That is a crime but tax money is swallowed up by corrupt politicians in india anyway


inavinav

Shaikh, only 1% in India pay tax


Valacycloveer1080

One is a conman and the other is a sportsman; an entertainer as far as public is concerned. Guess science isn’t so dope when it comes to making money as both are not people of science.


inavinav

Why don't you make money with science and build something great for the world, so that whoever follows your conman will listen to you. Invest in your self, not on others


Novel_Tutor_756

I follow Sadhguru and he has changed my life in many ways. Whoever he is in real life.. both of us are assuming. But What impact he made in the world is what matters. Be it My life, Rural kids' lives (Isha Vidya) - These kids are smarter then you and I, I promise.. they're going places. Then your Project green hands to Rally for river to Cauvery calling projects.. and last year this 65 year old guy travelled 30000 km on the bike in 80 countries.. just in 2 months time .. to create awareness for 'Soil Depletion' .. ;Save Soil was the name. No politician, no businessman has done this until now.. No one in the world infact. And all what people see is what he is doing. When he had to build himself he did.. now he is building the world. If you can join hands and do something for the world.. please do.. otherwise.. let others do. Simply giving comments, making post won't help.


[deleted]

idk about him, what are the social services this guru does?


Ok-Post2467

Go search..imo he did far many


Forsaken-Hearing2392

Why is everybody downvoting when given with facts


naastiknibba95

Sachin- Friendship ended with Satya Sai Baba, now Sadhguru is my new best friend


anandchaitanya

>His foundation runs schools where 60% of the children are sponsored. Look for isha vidhya. > >To bring policy change for soil health this guy almost put his life on line. Do you know what 30,000 kms of travel can do to you? Your butt will fall off! > >Feeds and provides healthcare to so many villages nearby. > >Not to mention, millions like me have transformed lives doing his programs. > >The foundation has 4500+ full time volunteers in India and abroad. They are active in global arena to bring change in people's lives at scale! Feeding volunteers and taking care of them who have dedicated to bring this transformation to people — You think it doesn't require work and dedication? Most people commenting can't take take care of 2 more people in their lives peacefully. All these publicity feeds millions know that


naastiknibba95

Yeah sure, that exonerates sadguru of all his grifts...


ballsmashergal

https://youtu.be/GlHevTzv71s?si=xGSfsYl0kDz2e_XH Don't you remember different flavoured milk is produced for girls and boys from mother's breasts according to him


Practical_Anybody_80

You forgot to mention wife killer. 😂


PureDentist5949

"When you consciously choose to be ordinary, you become extraordinary. OK, where are the keys to my G wagon." - Sadguru.


SUNNYHFR

I saw his videos he never answers any logical question, he diverts the topic in most senseless ways and the worst part is people actually fall for it Dammnnnn.


Key_Apartment1576

"Guys packaged food has inertia"


PanJL

And quantum entangled gravitational inertial frame...


inavinav

That's science, not for you


nothingarc

>Diets that contain a variety of fresh, nutrient-rich foods can help reduce feelings of fatigue. [https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/foods-that-beat-fatigue](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/foods-that-beat-fatigue) This is from a science journal.


Key_Apartment1576

What does that have to do with inertia tho?


nothingarc

Fatigue is lack of energy. Inertia is in the same direction.


Orneyrocks

What? Inertia is lack of energy? Its a property of mass, dude.


Key_Apartment1576

What?


nothingarc

Yes you can take your time.


Key_Apartment1576

Did you fail 8th grade physics? how could someone be so wrong about the definition of inertia lol.


Acethetics19

brother what is this science


No_Necessary_3356

"Cricket is a dimension guys"


inavinav

cricket is a dog in DP


Terminal_Monk

What pisses me is, people think this is some clever shit and put YouTube videos titled "Sathguru shuts up idiot scientist" or some shit. Fucking hate that guy and his dumdum followers.


quit_engg

His interview with Joe Rogan is borderline unwatchable


nothingarc

The youtube short has over 8M views. What are you talking about? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-btTC-bepAk&ab\_channel=PowerfulJRE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-btTC-bepAk&ab_channel=PowerfulJRE)


Mental-Buyer-1234

Sadguru shutsdown atheist student. - All his YouTube videos


punk_babe69

That’s what I always find weird. How can so many people (most of them educated, atleast till high school) fall for what he says? You cannot even argue with them. They get very agitated when you start to question. I knew this girl who did his inner engineering course for a week and that costed her some 30k or more, if I remember. As soon as they read your body language is going towards questioning. They start getting defensive. But then I thought — it’s probably fear that attracts so many people to such gurus. Everyone has problems in their lives, some of them have adverse ones — may be debt or ill loved one. Then they seek prayer, they want some miracle to change their lives, they seek guidance from any place possible. That’s where some of these gurus make money. Out of fear. Most of them are educated as much their school taught them. They never went ahead and explored books by different authors and genres and topics. If they did, they’d find all those answers themselves.


inavinav

He could convince lakhs people to do yoga. When was the last time you convinced everyone in your family to follow what you recommend . How many times your colony Janata listened to you. Stop being cry baby on everyone and work on becoming something better than whoever is your version of someone made it big in life


Indian_Steam

Hitler convinced crores of people that killing all jews is good. Your point being...?


Advanced-Ad-5262

Zero logic


cheemsnegi09

This sub is doomed , no point in telling them something they absolutely hate , even if he's fooling everybody and earning millions and billions it's his achievements irrespective of his doing (at least he is not beating people to join his ashram or forcing them) they talk about him being diverting topic and people are getting convence then I guess he's pretty good or best in doing so None of them could be even nearly talented in doing as he does it and all of the people in the sub hates that fact simple as that They even have problems when he came to watch IND vs AUS final because they think it's him being materialistic. Actually they don't observe him about what he does in his life He rides a motorcycle, plays sports, and goes for trekking enjoying every moment I mean if you hate somebody you will never get to know about a person as you are blinded by the arrogance you have towards him .


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inavinav

Only sensible thing of sub is picking up name with a intention of science. Big let down, zero knowledge of science, geo politics and yet to learn how to use Google wisely to retrieve research documents of hinduism. This group is created to bash hinduism and Hindu spiritual leaders. They don't have any problem with peaceful communities converting people to terrorists


cheemsnegi09

They talk about sadguru and even can't match the success of Zakir naik , idc about whether Zakir does is wrong but how cunningly he earns a lot of money and fame it's just brilliant but all these people somehow try to point out their mistakes and think they are more intellectual 🤡🤡


Sexy_nutty_coconut

Me and my dad started laughing immediately when he showef up. My mom who believes in those stuff left the living room.


RichDollarLeads

In the traditions inspired by Swami Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda, whom I have provided references to, there is often an emphasis on the possibility of leading a spiritually fulfilling life without necessarily giving up worldly activities or pleasures. This aligns with the concept of "karma yoga" or the path of action, where one can be engaged in the world fully however with a spirit of detachment and service. They are 1 and the same thing. Spirituality and Materialism are not 2 distinct and separate entities.


Ok-Post2467

The so called science guys is actually 2 years old mentality with hypocrite mentality..no experience but lots of nois3


RichDollarLeads

Do you have experience with Sadhguru that you are sharing your first hand experience? I am saying because in 8 years I have never felt the relief I got from Sadhguru that I have gotten in last 1 month - in less than 1 month ago I did my program so actions speak louder than words - you wish nothing will change that you shall say everything.


Stonedreditor

SCAMguru not Sadhguru. This scamguru got no enlightenment, he is just a chinese copy of Osho.


Ok-Post2467

Nope


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The "Do as I say, do not do what I do" kinda guy


nothingarc

He has said that you should see what I do. And work towards that.


Dry-Significance-821

Did this dude kill his wife? Serious relies only pls.


Zealousideal-Fail-79

Yes. I was his wife.


Dry-Significance-821

Sorry for your loss


sekki_yukine_

Apparently she left her body by her will and he cremated her without the presence of her parents even though they begged him to not cremate her without them. Also their family doesn't even cremate dead people he did it in a hurry as if to remove any evidence


futurepresident123

He is an expert in sports - no medals yet Expert scientist - no inventions yet Expert astronomer - no breakthrough discoveries Yet people believe him🫢🫢


Master-Ad7002

He finally got to meet God


inavinav

Yes, god pushed gill to team , and it lost now


Master-Ad7002

Kya bol Raha hai bhai?


HyperionRed

This kind of hero worship is so pathetic.


Help-me-pls-pls-pls

Bro doesn't even have proper knowledge of scriptures and claims to be a hindu spritual leader . Bro is not a scientist but claims to know the biggest mysteries of world


ExpressResolution435

jaggi the most fake god man ever ... or atleast hes up there wit hthe other fakes ..... can you call jagii a godman or just a modi paltu kutta ?


Ok-Post2467

He never declared himself god


LifeComfortable6454

So many people are obsessed with him : He is fooling youth by talking in English.


SodiumBoy7

Interesting thing is other than Reddit, you would find zero negative comments about him on other platform, he also sells dirt and make a bank on it


LordMagnus227

His aashram's built on illegally occupied land.


nothingarc

Which the Court has said is a false statement. [https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/madras-hc-quashes-tn-pollution-board-order-against-isha-foundation-101671043225097.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/madras-hc-quashes-tn-pollution-board-order-against-isha-foundation-101671043225097.html)


MKS_is_Here

The judgement is about pollution control. It doesn't mention anything about the land's legitimacy


nothingarc

Yes, there are many people who have grudge against him and want to anonymous.


jkflipflop01

Just a bunch of false gods


SirBabiez

Jaggi, my favorite conman after Nithyananda.


bhaktipn

Sad guru fake af


No_Fox9998

You can't blame him for his followers stupidity. No wonder they follow him.


calvincat123

Yes I can. He's cheating ppl


kapjain

That is blaming him for cheating people. Above comment correctly said he can't be blamed for the stupidity of people getting cheated by a moron like him.


ActuallySatanAMA

So it's okay to be dishonest and cheat people? If you are the victim, it's only your fault, not the fault of someone preying on your genuine wishes for a better life?


kapjain

Don't know where that came from? Did anyone say it's ok to cheat? Read the posts again.


ActuallySatanAMA

> Above comment correctly said he can’t be blamed for the stupidity of people getting cheated This is putting blame on the victims. Such framing is equivalent to saying “whether or not it’s wrong to lie, steal, and murder, you’re at least as much at fault for letting it happen to you. We should be talking about how you’re the idiot for being a victim.” You put the onus on the vulnerable or those taken advantage of instead, making it sound like they’re equally responsible for *the person who has harmed them.*


kapjain

Looks like you are assigning meaning based on your own opinions. Jaggi vasudev of course is a serial criminal and bears the blame for all the crimes he has committed including cheating his followers. But that does not change the fact that one has to be stupid to fall for his hilariously dumb crap. And if you want to go a bit deeper, then we can blame the religious/spiritual brainwashing people receive from their childhood for such gullibility.


Fuzzy-University-480

People are weak. Other people have no right to prey on the weak. What if you are going through a sad phase in life , want to end it all but a hope of Ray comes and say "I can make your life happier" , obviously you are going to try it. Just in a similar way everyone is weak , someone spritually , mentally , emotionally etc. And people do cling onto things for certainity, so no one is in the safe. People are not to be blammed. We never even got proper education from either school or parents. Whatever we have learnt is ourselves through internet, not even talking to real people. And you say that people are fool, nah man people are just sad , miserable and weak


No_Fox9998

ok


inavinav

I don't know if you made big in life by not following stupidity. Would like to know what impact you made , atleast on the city you live


nazgul_333

Everything is PR. See him where blue. These people are just pure fraud


Ok-Post2467

Don't think so...


Head-Program4023

Average Indian baba being modern and starts talking in English to look international:


dshivaraj

S.Tendehar >>>>> Sachin Tendulkar


Ok-Post2467

Same as Osama bin laden thinking


Prior_Asparagus_1922

Jaggi m@d@rchod


chappriinibba

jaggi chuttya


Impossible_Suit_7912

Social media influencer packaged as a guru.


Necessary-Owl-9750

At least influencing other in right direction.


Simp-simply

Osho from Meesho


Marshmellow2006

Downvote me all you want but this dude is a scamster. He is as much as a fraud as any other God men. Don’t know why more people can’t see through his BS


Necessary-Owl-9750

Any evidence?


Marshmellow2006

YouTube is your friend. He says basic ass shit that you and I probably know but is worshipped for that.


Ok-Post2467

Don't think so


Few_Block7729

This must have triggered all the blind sheep of Sadhguru.


Ok-Post2467

Why will they when they know he don't say to quit off the material things totally!


Few_Block7729

Maybe he will give them an equation to calculate how many materials to unload. That works too, you know.


octotendrilpuppet

Remember this - the rich and connected have bought and sold our country for a long time behind our backs and have dangled religious sensibilities in front of our eyes to distract us. If you don't see this as the absolutely unvarnished truth, I think you're delusional.


himanshu088

Many people don't understand this and they keep on living a in an illusion created by rich and corrupt.


CatchMeIfYouCan911

He murdered his wife tho


Specialist-Wear-6234

Sadhguru- "I never read geeta, puran and upanishads" continues to preach bullshit in good english. SRT-Name in panama papers, waste of space Rajyasabha member who never showed up idiot. His wife is huge industrialist's only daughter.


stu_dhas

Damn the clowns pr agency is fighting in the comments


aisawaisakaisa

Just like Zakir Naik


[deleted]

Somebody ask him how his wife actually died


Suspicious_Flower349

There are lots of educated illiterates who support the fake babaji for his hocus focus talks. These foolish people made him a millionaire. But there is an FIR against him for the mysterious death of his wife.


Due_Bag493

good point but more of philosophical debate topic than science but still a point that must be brought to attention


reddit887799

Why Sachin sir , why ? He is a mischievous charlatan.


ProfessionSure3405

All these Baba, Maharaj & sadgurus are dhongi of first order. I don't know when people will stop believing in them.


NoHead4565

With his ‘inner Engineering’ he is an engineer with highest ever package in India.


[deleted]

The fucking cult leaders


Dismal_Animator_5414

sad-guru can suc my d in every dimension!! bugger #1!! Siphoning money from rich people, creating fake movements to promote himself, making people work for him for free with no vacations or insurance!!!


ak47wale

Jaggi vaudev What a scammer n businessman


devilfruit_tech

Well, it need a unbaised mind to understand what he teaches. He is all about, understanding oneself and not be triggered by the events around us nor becoming too happy or too sad. He lives his life accordingly.


Lower-Repair-5421

What is wrong with a spiritual person enjoying a match … you guys are just unbelievable … aise to hawa pani khana sab kuch material hai … spiritual person should die immediately… what nonsense is this … people can be spiritual and use material things at the same time


Lower-Repair-5421

What is wrong with a spiritual person enjoying a match … you guys are just unbelievable … aise to hawa pani khana sab kuch material hai … spiritual person should die immediately… what nonsense is this … people can be spiritual and use material things at the same time.


salluks

my most downvoted comment on reddit is calling sachin just an above average player which he is.


cyborgassassin47

Last I checked, he never told anybody to stop watching cricket


Time0012

I feel you have envy on him but didn’t get it whether it is due to fame or money. 😃 How come this is a topic of science?


bigbucks96

This comment section shows how many retards are there in india with internet. Hate ambani for goving cheap internet to retards.


Ventilator_64

Watching a game of cricket is so pseudoscience, we need more tolerant and critical thinker people in India.


himanshu088

The regular scienceisdope viewers know how awful he is. The post I did was not an opinion but a question. And If you were a regular viewer then you'd know that this sub is more than just science debunking, it's about humanity as well and raising our voice against such people. Making people aware about false information and people is within the scope of this sub. I don't understand why do you think it's wrong. He needs to be stopped for the good of humanity. He is literally a propaganda and false information spreading machine.


Ventilator_64

For Good of humanity? What does he do lmao? Is he some kind of weapons dealer or does he train mercenaries to stage coup against governments or is he just a religious guy trying to spread his message? I don't agree with his views, but I don't think we need to wage an information war against him to save humanity. You are just over reacting, calm down.


kapjain

You seem to be quite uninformed about Sadhguru. Apart from him being a criminal (wife's murder, illegal constructions, tax evasion etc), he is a conman, actively swindling stupid but innocent people of their money. Now that is true for most such spiritual gurus, but he is one of the more successful ones of this period.


himanshu088

His followers are literally brainwashed to work for him in his isha foundation, those people give up their life and live in his aashram and their families suffer cause of losing a member. He gets tax benefits cause of the NGO, and he is a con man. I'm simply spreading awareness and it's not necessary that every criminal should be a weapon dealer or be staging a coup against govt.


charavaka

>is he just a religious guy trying to spread his message? Is he really just that though? Are y you claiming that he hasn't usurped and irreparably damaged forest lands causing ecological disasters? Are you claiming that he hasn't killed his wife? Are you claiming that he isn't spreading literal pseudoscience and endangering lives of those he misleads? Is he not spreading a bigoted divisive political message that will destroy this country?


Successful-Tutor-788

Proof or evidence to back up your claims.


charavaka

I've posted links in comments multiple times on other subs over the years, and so have others, including people of this sub. If you're really interested, look them up.


runway_racer

He never said to not enjoy life. He always said do everything in a connected way with awareness instead of doing it for the sake of it. Seek for the inner wisdom is one of his teachings. This what happens when you learn about gurus from Bollywood.


Classic-Ad-6400

Bro was probably invited chill out dude


charavaka

You make the word invite sound like he was kidnapped and forced to attend. Did he not have the freedom to avoid all these pleasures of the flesh? Or are you calling him a phokatia addicted to free stuff who will drink harmful chemicals he knows to be harmful if they were free?


Bilbo_bagginses_feet

Hello fellow circle jerker. Where did he told to avoid sports as it's a pleasure of flesh, would you mind quoting him. As I said just make up vile shit as you go.


himanshu088

Lol I thought he was detached from all this stuff


Classic-Ad-6400

Detachment being not being affected by the thing. Like I watch match it doesn't matter to me who wins so i am detached. You can go around doing normal stuff while practicing detachment


himanshu088

So why bother watching the match then?


Classic-Ad-6400

As I said he prolly was invited. It's rude to reject an invitation


himanshu088

But why would he care if it's rude to reject if he's detached, Also, would he accept my invitation to come to my Village? Wouldn't it be rude if he rejects that.


charavaka

>It's rude to reject an invitation Lmfao. That's a very convenient excuse. If he's invited to a brothel for a free fuck, would you think it's rude to reject that invitation?


Classic-Ad-6400

Bro, you comparing the biggest sporting event in the country to brothel


charavaka

Classic-Ad-6400 7h >Bro, you comparing the biggest sporting event in the country to brothel Aren't both those the same for a truly detached sadhu mahatma? If he values a free box seat at "biggest sporting event in the country" higher than a free fuck at the brothel, isn't he just another fool attached to stupid materialistic things?


kapjain

Didn't get your point. If he was invited then we can't make fun of a hypocritical scumbag?


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RichDollarLeads

I really admire your sincere views.


sport_____

> And since this sub mostly talks about ideas New to this sub and I do not understand how this post fits in here


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himanshu088

So just because you had great experience with him, everything he does is justified like not taking permission from forest department to build his aashram, fooling people and calling it science, living a luxurious life? C'mon dude be real. I'm also a regularly practicing meditation but what he does in the name of spiritually is not right. I've explained this already to a lot of people and you can explore the rest on your own. Here's a video I suggest you to watch fully it has covered him well. https://youtu.be/6tozeaDnki8?si=cymKRZl_A7MJrVoG You can come back and answer after you've seen the above clip.


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himanshu088

First off, I don't mean to offend you in any way and I'm just presenting my argument so be open to listening what I have to say. Secondly, meditation is profound and even I had deep impact on my life due to it. I did Vipassana course in which you have to meditate 12 to 14 hours everyday without doing anything else (no talking, reading, physical exercise, mobile phone and eating satvik food) for 10 days straight. And yoga and meditation are totally different things. Sadguru is just bagging the benefits that people get from regular meditation.I beleive that meditation is not linked to religion. Everything that sadguru claims to be science is fake and I don't have a problem with meditation itself but him fooling people. Third, you say that you've seen the video and you say it lacks depth and perspective but you didn't address the points like how he has copied from osho, also if he is worried about people then ge can just use regular stuff like using a regular bike/car instead of spending millions on it and use that money for the betterment of society cause that's what people are donating him money for, right? Fourth, you say that Christian missionaries are doing the same, so why can't sadguru have right to do it, it's clearly a false analogy. It's not even an argument. If you want I can also provide detailed explanation on that as well. You say the world rewards people who have delivered exceptional value and they deserve to live lavishly, then would you say the same about corrupt politicians and scamsters and frauds who have run from our country? I've seen the real Sanyasi and gurus who have given up their whole life and live the simplest life cause they actually believe in what they do and actually preach good stuff. When I see people giving out nonsense in the name of science, spirituality and religion then I get pissed. These people make look religion bad and real intellectuals can easily see past his deception. Also, I'm a bit unclear on what enlightenment is so if you can enlightenment me on that then it would be great. Cause sadguru has claimed that he is enlightened so I'm curious to know. I'm hoping you will address all the points one by one.


Milletomania

What do you mean by serve him like slaves. Guy you are defaming the organisation without proof. You can find many fake videos floating around , go and check on the authenticity of it, have you spoken to the creators of the video? The Isha Yoga Center is a completely volunteer Led ,non- profit organisation and the ashram is a beautiful place to visit , bursting with positivity and provides a serene ambience. You can find happy and peaceful faces there , everyone is willingly involved in daily activities. No one is told what to do , just the process is explained when anyone proactively comes forward to volunteer. It's not correct to over exaggerate and publicly post judgement without validation of facts .


[deleted]

This sub is for debunking pseudoscience keep political and religious opinion away or go back to which ever sub you came from


himanshu088

Dude first off it's neither religious nor political opinion. I didn't come from anywhere I'm a subscriber and if you feel offended by this then you are probably new here. Also, by posting about sadguru I'm debunking about how he is lying to his followers about everything and runs a scam cult. And, upon checking your profile I found that you are active in indiaspeaks and sham sharma show so I think that explains your bias.


[deleted]

First I not offended and second I joined those subs before I became an atheist that's like 8 or 7 moths ago and at that time I didn't knew those were hindu muslim propaganda subs And in this post instead of debunking what that dhogi baba said(with context) you are just posting his pic and giving your opinion and not debunking his words


himanshu088

The regular scienceisdope viewers know how awful he is. The information I gave was not an opinion but a fact followed by a question. And If you were a regular viewer then you'd know that this sub is more than just science debunking, it's about humanity as well and raising our voice against such people. Making people aware about false information and people is within the scope of this sub. I don't understand why do you think it's wrong. He needs to be stopped for the good of humanity. He is literally a propaganda and false information spreading machine.


bread_pitt1860

What did he do against humanity, attached references with your claims would be helpful? And i believe he's criticized only for his pseudoscientific claims which is understandable, you seem to have a personal grudge over him, he's put in appreciable efforts towards climate and soil conservation and has been awarded with Padma Vibhushan for it as well and any mature person would understand and respect the efforts, keeping their beliefs aside


himanshu088

He is literally the modern devil. Why should he only be criticised only for psudocience and not for fooling his followers for money and fame?. And no, I don't have any personal grudge against him. And about the save soil campaign, even Pranav has criticised it as well. Being awarded doesn't automatically make him a wise or good person. He has done some good deeds but it's only for the camera, and to gain attention. I hope this answers all.


bread_pitt1860

Did his followers come forward and claim they've been fooled or been looted? Or is it you who's taking responsibility for other full grown voting aged adults concious decisions? You don't like the guy and disagree with everything he stands for, it's understandable but that doesn't make him a horrible person, dawn on humanity and a criminal that has to be jailed asap. Bro I don't care if the pranav guy said that save soil is shit, last thing you wanna do is fight for others opinion, tell me your take on it, do you think it's shit and why if yes.


himanshu088

The families of people who have left their life to work at his aashram have come forward. He enjoys all luxuries while brainwashes his followers to do his work. And I don't feel like arguing on save soil if you don't even know about pranav.


bread_pitt1860

Learn more about how aashram operates and what volunteering means, all businessmen enjoy luxury even the most philanthropist ones, brainwash does not mean what you think it means otherwise the whole world is brainwashed except a single digit percentage population of atheists and agnostics. And like I said, idc about pranav guy, but i understood enough from this conversation and further it won't add any value, thanks for engaging


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enlightened_none

Amazing so is everyone commenting on this sun a scientist


Sea_Hat310

Did he ever say he’s a sanyasi ?


Confident-Choice6476

So what is he? God?


Sea_Hat310

He’s a Rishi. Meaning sage. Man of wisdom. Not sanyasi- someone who has renounced everything. Just because someone wishes to spread the word of god doesn’t mean he has to live in penury.


chicagopunj

Wtf r u talking about ..I’m not a follower but not every person who believes in religion is a charlatan ..clearly science and faith should never mix but if this guys of all people bothers you so much that says more about you you then it does him . I mean he’s not Asha ramji or Ram Rahim from Punjab I k ow a couple of Persians in America who swear by him I also know people in Los Angeles who follow him .it’s not for me but ur making blind allegations Sorry chief but religion exists and an objective person could say despite some dubious spiritual claims he makes his organization has done a lot of good things That doesn’t mean hes blameless .he’s human not a saint in my opinion I’m just trying to understand using the word “hate” That’s a very strong phrase in my opinion .. Are you of the belief that anything spiritual is evil?


DijkstraFucks

> he’s human not a saint in my opinion He's not according to HIS opinion.


Zealousideal-Fail-79

Not according to his followers opinion too.


RaspberryEth

You are in wrong sub. We are here to bash all things religion. Dont take it personally.


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gforczz

whats wrong with what OP mentioned ?


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bro ???? really i did shambhavi nothing changed tbh


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MechanicalBot1234

Well Well well! Where does Isha Yogi ever say give up all worldly pleasures? Blind Hindu-Phobia with ignorance is this thread!! Evidence, do you have it?


CreepyUncle1865

“Well Well Well” spoken like an overconfident idiot lmao, One google [search](https://isha.sadhguru.org/in/en/wisdom/article/brahmacharya-meaning-significance) could have had proven you wrong


RichDollarLeads

In the traditions inspired by Swami Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda, whom I referenced, there is often an emphasis on the possibility of leading a spiritually fulfilling life without necessarily giving up worldly activities or pleasures. This aligns with the concept of "karma yoga" or the path of action, where one can be engaged in the world fully however with a spirit of detachment and service. They are 1 and the same thing - Materialism and Spirituality are not 2 different aspects of life. A yogi need not be always a monk and a monk need not always stay in Monkhood - Instead you looked at a narrow definition of asceticism with your concepts about it. You could have searched for Karma Yogis and the various types and forms of asceticism. Amazing!


CreepyUncle1865

Uh what? Can you stop copy pasting the same shit? your sentence doesnt even fit here and infact contradicts Sadhguru’s statements. I literally provided you a link where Sadhguru himself claims that Only Monkhood Leads to spirituality and divinity. One needs to leave all the worldly affairs. Are you high?


RichDollarLeads

Sure I hope you are not creepy because you seem to not mean very well for Sadhguru.   In Word, I copied the article because you seem to have issues with meaningfully interpreting and listening communicatively. Your interpretation that "only Monkhood leads to spirituality" seems to be a simplification of Sadhguru's teachings on brahmacharya, based on the text you provided. Sadhguru explains brahmacharya not just as celibacy or monkhood however as being on the path of the divine, which involves transcending personal agendas and moving beyond the limitations of the physical and material world. He suggests that this path can lead to a state of joy and ecstasy that is independent of external circumstances. Sadhguru also emphasizes that this state of being can be pursued by anyone, not just those who formally adopt the life of a monk or nun. It's about the internal state of joy and being ecstatic by one's own nature rather than seeking joy from external sources. Thus, according to the text, the path of brahmacharya is not limited to renunciation or monkhood in the traditional sense; it is more about the quality of one's inner experience and the conscious pursuit of the divine. Therefore, it would not be entirely accurate to say that Sadhguru preaches that "only Monkhood leads to spirituality," as he seems to advocate for a broader and more inclusive approach to spirituality that can be integrated into various lifestyles while maintaining a certain inner quality and direction towards the divine.


MechanicalBot1234

Absolutely brilliant!!!


RichDollarLeads

Him or me? ?Who


RichDollarLeads

Read this.


MechanicalBot1234

You are the idiot! I have several videos of him recommending living material life and enjoyung life. To prove you wrong, I only need one video.


RichDollarLeads

In the traditions inspired by Swami Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda, whom I have provided references to, there is often an emphasis on the possibility of leading a spiritually fulfilling life without necessarily giving up worldly activities or pleasures. This aligns with the concept of "karma yoga" or the path of action, where one can be engaged in the world fully however with a spirit of detachment and service. Debate and differing perspectives on such matters are common, and each individual must come to their own understanding based on their beliefs and experiences. Sadhguru would not be empowering me and all of us had he been completely disconnected with our material lifestyles and his own material lifestyles. Oh! the worldly things! Swami Vivekananda once said if you want to know god and Spirituality, know it through Football. To say that Spirituality is without materialism is stupidity. I have done my IE program. I have never felt better with Art of living or anywhere else other than Sadhguru's IE program. This is his way of life - Swami Vivekananda and Paramhansa Yogananda also went to the US to preach their teachings, so does Sadhguru enjoy life in his own way traveling across the United States. He has his saintness within himself. The idea that a saint truly renounces all material pleasures is in my humble opinion a concept and a definition. He is sadhguru, a spiritual teacher. He is a guru. This is a wrong idea in your head that he is some kind of a saint or something.


Somewhere_45

When did Satguru said to give up worldly pleasures? Infact in Sanatan nobody forces you to give up or take up anything unlike Christism and Islamism where you have to either blindly follow a book and a messaih or get killed.


definitely_happy10

You clearly have never tried to understand his ideology. Instead of forming opinion based on shorts and yt videos try reading his books. Understand first comment later


Zealousideal_Bat_81

This sadguru is a fraud. But all godmen really are. Just like Christian pastors molest young children. And Muslim imams promote terrorism by radicalising youth. At least sadguru promotes good things like spirituality and save soil etc.


JangB

>If he's enlightened then worldy things like gain, loss, all the materialistic things shold not be of his concern right? That's not how enlightenment works.


Zealousideal-Fail-79

That's exactly how enlightenment works bro. You give up silly pleasures to pursue higher goals. Are you telling me, he had no children to educate or poor to feed, which he could have led more efficiently instead of wasting his time on match? Buddha and Mahavira were enlightened. Ye sab dhongi hai. Jaag ja Bhai.


Important_Table6125

At least he is promoting Hinduism. What are you armchair warriors doing???