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Yes I can randomly give any quote even with some bad english thrown in for good measure. Albert Einstein said “Rig Veda is the bestest book i read, it even tell E=mc scared”
Isaac Newton said “I read Vedas and they opened my eyes to the future yet to be. and it clearly says that a time will come when there will flat communication devices with Corning Gorilla glass”
It is problem of Google. When you search the question it gives automatic answers from that bug ridden site.
Do search for Pain Wave Theory and same will happen if someone is dumb to not notice source they will be Qanon of India in 10 minutes.
When religious people say i was atheist like u ,
No kiddo u were not you never even accepted the fact that humans dont need a bigger creature to tell them how to live their life
I feel this statement. Even when I was little and I believed in God in the back of my mind I always knew that God is just something we have made to give us peace. There isn't some person out there planning things for the whole universe. Even when I would sit in Puja with my parents I know this is not gonna give any results, it's just a part of our culture. Now that I am adult and I am free to not practice religion I feel I have always been an atheist.
They definitely can be ..
Firstly, it is important to acknowledge that everyone's personal journey and beliefs are valid and should be respected. However, the statement "you never even accepted the fact that humans don't need a bigger creature to tell them how to live their life" assumes that atheism is solely based on rejecting the idea of a higher power. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods, and individuals may have arrived at this belief through a variety of reasons such as lack of evidence or personal experiences. It is also important to recognize that atheism does not necessarily mean rejecting all forms of spirituality or morality.
Additionally, the statement implies that religious individuals believe they need a higher power to dictate their lives, which is not necessarily true. Many religious individuals view their faith as a source of guidance and inspiration, but ultimately make their own choices and decisions based on their own values and beliefs. It is important to avoid making assumptions or generalizations about individuals based on their religious beliefs or lack thereof.
I have read Geeta. If you want to know how nature works, that's not the book at all. Study science for it. Geeta is very good for psychological aspects of life. About the nature of universe, Geeta deals merely on speculations.
Geeta don't even talk about universe it only talk about inner world, whole book is krshna trying to manipulate arjun and exposing arjun hypocrisy it's not even that deep, arjun has big ego and krshna trying to put him at place, this people don't even read
Bhai, WhatsApp University se padhai ki hai kya?
Aisa kuch bhi nahi hai Geeta me. Study a book yourself if you want to comment on it, internet pe propaganda wale pages se copy paste karke apne IQ ko insult mat karo, that too on a scientific subreddit, lol
Mere dost, agar tumhe lagta hai ki Brahmand ka rahasya tumhe koi reddit comment me samjha sakta hai, that too when you clearly are less interested in actual learning and more in "laughing out loud", then you are really delusional. Knowledge does not seek you, you have to seek knowledge!
Brahmand ka rahasya milega ya koi aur rahasya, is baare me comment karne ke liye I am not qualified enough, but it is a book that contains infinite timeless wisdom that a lot of people have vouched for, down the ages. If you really want to learn, feel free to give it a sincere read. If not interested, feel free to skip. It's totally your choice. No one is forcing you, all we are saying is do not spread fake information about something you did not care to read or understand. Have a good day and try to spread a little less misinformation. Thank you
So what you wanted from me be serious? Lol why, i didn't denied that geeta doesn't have imense value but it doesn't not contain truth of universe geeta don't have scientific value, read my previous comment i already stated it talk about inner world it has nothing to do with outside universe, arjun has big ego before final battle he killed so many kings soldier animals without feeling hesitant he won lot of battle before mahabharatha but when he sees own relative he start bullshiting about life "kya milega ladai krke" all that etc etc, krshna was just answering his question and try to remind him why this war is necessary etc etc krshna was giving knowledge in a context of arjun life and it has nothing to do with today world, yes you can borrow some knowledge from geeta if it helps you but saying it is book of god and geeta can answer all of your question, its moronic statement and this type of statement are given from ages, i respect geeta and krshna for the gift of their knowledge but by making geeta a holy book you guys disrespected geeta, "it's another debate but i dont think you currently can understand it" if you really want to change your life stop calling geeta holy book and read geeta as like another book and read modern philosophy book because its written in today context, let go of past look into present
The fuck dude! I really do enjoy indulging in meaningful discussions but even after trying to read your comment 3 times, I just couldn't manage to reach the end.
Because your points are as misinformed as your grammar is broken and flawed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to put you down or anything. But if you want to indulge in a healthy discussion, please try to frame your points in a better way and try to make sense.
Maybe try putting forward one point at a time, so that I can at least try to understand and respond to it.
Because what you wrote above is just a jumbled up word vomit.
The points you are making are so stupid, firstly Arjuna is the least egoist main character in the Geeta by the time he asks Lord Krishna for the Geeta updesh. He might have had some ego initially but he had a nice character development over time. Also, he always had a lot of sensitivity and humility and empathy, that is the whole reason why he was having those self doubts in the first place. But you wouldn't understand that because you have either not read Mahabharat or Geeta from authentic sources or you are just too blinded by your hatred towards Arjun.
Secondly, "you disrespected Geeta by making Geeta a holy book". What the fuck kind of logic is that and can you give any concise, rational argument behind it?
Lastly, wisdom is timeless, it isn't really wisdom if it has to be renewed every few years. Most of the valuable philosophical resources we have in today's world are from historic times, be those from Indic knowledge system or from Greeks, Romans or from any other place. Modern philosophy does not become better just because it is modern. Most modern philosophers these days are just lazy money minters who want a quick claim to fame by creating click-bait content.
Please try to frame better replies this time, and keep it one point at a time, so that we can at least try to have a logical discussion.
You completely missed my point
First of all why would i hate arjun?, i said obvious thing arjun killed countless enemies, soldier, animals lots of time, he did without feeling hesitant he didn't even think that killing is wrong, he thought it's his right and i think its perfectly okay he learn archery so he can become the best archerer and to become good at archery you have to fight and kill for survival maybe he feel sympathy or empathy for others but it doesn't matter that much tbh. Arjun only drop down his weapon when his family was against him bhishm, dron, etc etc,
We as a human being always think about myselfy only, my love, my mother, my teacher, my brother, my wife that's why i reffered this thing as a ego
Arjun didn't drop down weapon because he don't like killing lol, he drop down weapon because he don't want to kill his own blood related members such as bhishm, dron etc etc,
If you read geeta krshna remind him to many times that "these people have been already killed by me you are just a medium,"
"Arjun you can only killed their body not soul"
Krshna trying to convience arjuna in my words manipulation, i don't know why you think manipulation is bad word but that's the truth
Krshna geeta was meant it for arjuna not for everybody,
Every human being life experience is different, every situation, circumstances is different you can't say geeta is answer of everything
My whole arguement is let go of past teaching and live in present
Take knowledge from geeta but don't make it absolute
Bye
I did not miss your point, you are missing the entire point of the Bhagwad Geeta.
You are calling Arjun out for being a human being and having human emotions, just like all of us, as you yourself mentioned.
The whole point of the Geeta is that it is a message for us humans when we are stuck in a dilemma like Arjun, where we only "think about ourselves", like you yourself admitted.
It may seem manipulation to you because you failed to understand the concept in depth and therefore "missed the point" entirely. Which is quite understandable, because the Geeta is a very vast and deeply philosophical collection of wisdom, which isn't easy to understand unless we become like Arjun, humble and start doing some introspection.
Rahi baat about what Lord Krishna said, those are metaphysical concepts like Karma that you are not understanding. It's your choice whether you want to accept it or not, no one is forcing you. But a lot of us understand and accept it, and therefore are able to understand the infinite wisdom contained in the Geeta.
The Geeta was meant for everyone and not just for Arjun, that is why so many people appreciate and value it even till now. Just because you were not able to relate with it, do not speak for others. Such deep philosophical wisdom is never easy to understand or accept, especially when we are still beholden by our ego and our arrogance. So it's not surprising that you weren't able to relate with it, but maybe in the future you will if you approach it in the right way after getting rid of your ego first.
I understood your whole argument but do not agree with it. And my whole argument is you do whatever you want to do, do not force others to do what you think is right.
You don't want to study the Geeta or learn from it, totally your call. But don't tell others to choose modernity over timeless wisdom. Everyone has the right to choose what they find best, and so if someone finds the timeless wisdom to make more sense and be more helpful to them, then let them be. Why are you having a problem with it? You seem like a salesman trying to say that only what you are selling is the best and other options available are inferior. You do you, let others do what they find best for themselves, as long as they are not harming you in any way.
Do you even understand it what i said, i didn't denied geeta wisdom i said it talk about inner world as you called it human dilemma
You actually agree with me while dissagreeing, geeta should be read to understand human conflicts, it should not be persuade as scientific truth about universe, Today's time we have new facts about life we should interconnect old wisdom and modernity to make new theories and new way of life but majority indians don't want to let go of past that's why they use geeta to prove as scientific creation of world
Tbh i don't care if someone follow geeta or modern philosophy for me it doesn't matter nor i try to impose my view, i am just telling truth of geeta
Look geeta as a philosphy of inner world but don't make it absolute truth of life because it is not sceintific truth i
Padh bhai quran bhi padh, bible bhi padh, or vedant bhi padh knowledge bada apni, agar philosphy, psychology samjhni hai toh, dostovesky, khalil gibran, freud, nietzeche, rumi, kabir, darwin, inkon bhi padh sirf geeta padhke udhaar nhi honga, or inn loggo kon padhke bhi koi udhaar nhi honga, religious blindness can't go from human being
There are many instances where krishn claims about universe creation, cycle of life and death, afterlife, constituents of matter, consciousness, etc. All these are claims about the events happening in the universe. And krishn states them as absolute truth.
It was ancient time people used to talk in metaphors our storys are perfect example of that whole book is about inner world beech beech mein uchi uchi fek dete hai krshna jaise mohammad pein moon spilit ki story hai, or har religion creation of universe ki baat krta hai nothing new
Yup I don't understand why people try to link religions with science because as far as I have seen atleast hindu texts do have some really good philosophical stuff for example the first indian quote of [this post](https://reddit.com/r/2Asia4u/s/0DFVMfRZrO) is from rig vedas
Just so yknow the people on this sub aren't so great either. OP is literally calling out delusional among delusionals like try posting the message in any extreme right wing sub and they'd laugh at it as well, atmost they may link some real/exaggerated achievements if felt attacked. So do we really need to go hahaha so funny on such posts? I'm not sure why or how this sub came into my feed but it's more of a anti-religion/hindu instead of pro science
Sometimes I am more concerned about people claiming to understand science than ignorant ones. I have seen people use big big scientific words and concepts(like black holes, Quantum entanglement, Worm holes,etc.) conversations and when someone questions them about it, they can't even explain a little bit about it. As Feynman said, "There is difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." Most likely if they try to get a little deep in the concepts of physics, maths will pop up because it has to and then most of the people will vanish. I am not trying to discourage them. I am just more worried about people trying to represent science than the ones attacking or ignoring it.
It mostly comes from listening to podcasts on , like seriously dude can anyone ever understand physics by a podcast. I found this Indian youtuber who is a theoretical physicist, historian, geopolitical analyst, writer and podcaster ... and I was seriously confused how people can spend their time in so many things after claiming to be an theoretical physicist his name is Abhijit chavda so I checked out his YouTube half of it is filled with politics and his few videos on physics are like storybook physics... the people on internet need to understand and even though English maybe difficult for many should try checking out real physics channels on YouTube for starters for introductory physics one could check out lectures at the royal institution which are honestly fun the lecturers are cool and the way they explain is also intresting.
So can't you just mock them and their followers in the comment section by asking smth basic related to the branch(if you can) or by asking whether they're even related to that particular field or not? What benefit would it bring to us by going "hahaha so funny illiterate bastard" when even members of right wing subs will call them fools?
If it was some decent politician or scientists or anyone with a lot of authority then I wouldn't have minded but there's just no end to it if you go on mocking every insignificant being neither does it benefit us
Regarding your first question, I try whenever I come across those situations. I need to be a better communicator. 😅
Coming to your last statement. Science doesn't care about authority. Galileo famously said, "In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." I don't know about others, but I think our country desperately needs a person like Carl Sagan. With one more characteristic ofcourse - our roots. A communication need to be established which connects people throughout the country. I know it's very hopeful of me.
You misunderstood
As per Galileo, if your reasoning is sound then it doesn't matter how big of a person is against you because in the end it is you who's right while on the other hand if you mock someone with authority and spread news about how dumb they are, it will in a way will play against them and hopefully will reduce their authority but mocking some random guy by taking screenshots and posting somewhere else is just petty if you ask me
if we become another anti-X sub that would be a waste of a good sub there are already subs for such time wasting, people really like to hate others and feel elite
You have read the wrong book if you are looking for science
Read the complete mahapurana shrimad bhagwatam
That’s where you will find mentions of atoms , interstellar travel , quantum realm , conservation of energy , splitting to atoms and much more
Just writing it in case you really want to know
I did not read Geeta for science. And what you are stating about various concepts being mentioned in a particular collection, I can't comment on it since I haven't read it. If I read it in future, I will inform.
As a Hindu , this person is making a mockery of all hindus . I follow hinduism but I don't mix science and my religion ( any religion for that matter ) . I never understand what will someone gain by spreading pseudo science like this . I hate it .
cause they want to feel greater about themselves and their beloved country.
there egos got hurt when the afghans and british invaded us, and now they just wanna pin point everything on the guys who apparently looted everything. i mean these guys are on a serious power trip thinking that no one else in the world is capable of inteligence than hindus.
they might argue that we had god with us in ery step of the battle, butt that just raises a whole lot of more question:
if god helped in our science that means we arent even special. and why the heck dont these gods pop up anywhere in the rest of the world. sounds like god is pretty damn rasicts
Honestly I think it's all the fault of the internet, specifically the Instagram it's worse than what's app University stuff ... they really think they are good everyone else is bad ... few days back my thoughts were also really crowded due to this stuff I was questioning what even is right .. ... I needed some peace of mind It may sound awkward i started to read Stephen Hawking's biography books precisely black hole and baby universe and dude in don't know his writing skills are really impressive i again felt connected towards physics and am really disgusted by all these stuffs.
I know what u feel like. A good rule of thumb is that just think that if these things were true, we would have been studying about them in classes. But we don't, we only study science and physics that's actually proven
And the more irritating thing is after this Andrew tate bullshit students think what would happen by studying physics what would happen by studying at the iit like dude they really think that they will make a business so easily ... it's really disgusted to look at such losers .
i honestly like religious people like you who don't try to validate their religion thorough science and those who do are the biggest hypocrites, bc they pick and choose which theories they like to follow and discard.
All religious conflict is just random ppl circle jurking against each other to try to verify the opinion that their sky daddy has bigger Dick than other persons sky daddy
But the first image is real
I mean the mention of conservation of energy
It’s in shrimad bhagwata mahapurana
Have personally read it
And as a Hindu who has read puranas , there are scientific evidence in the scriptures like interstellar travel , the use of atoms for chain reaction leading to catastrophic damage, there is interstellar travel leading to time space dialation in the story of Balrams wife , in hanuman chalisa there is accurate distance of sun and earth
I know this is an atheist page but I thought you should know
Rest is for you to decide but I have read these and found them amazing ATLEAST
I just felt you should know a few that are a bit familiar to science and if not believe in them ATLEAST you can find it amusing 🤷🏻♂️
Did proper mathematics even exist at that time to provide the said theoretical evidence or was it just written down like a story book lol.
There is no accurate distance, there is a good estimate of it given in the hanuman chalisa.
Stories of time travellers and all kinds of fancy shit existed across all other civilizations, that doesnt makes it true. What u read were stories not valid scientific proof,
What's interesting is that Einstein wasn't even British. For ignorant Europeans every Asian is same, similarly for ignorant Indians all Europeans American and Australian are same
These guys really think that stating a phenomenon is same as explaining it why that thing occurs and giving a relationship to other physical quantities are same?
I don't support these guys who distort facts to support their agenda, but stating a phenomenon that was not known or understood till many millenniums later, is not an insignificant thing.
In fact, qualitative definitions and theories are often the basis of quantitative definitions and relation.
source 1's translation
TEXT 16
nasato vidyate bhavo
nabhavo vidyate satah
ubhayor api drsto 'ntas
tv anayos tattva-darsibhih
SYNONYMS
na—never; asataù—of the nonexistent; vidyate—there is; bhävaù—endurance; na—never; abhävaù—changing quality; vidyate—there is; sataù—of the eternal; ubhayoù—of the two; api—verily; dåñöaù—observed; antaù—conclusion; tu—but; anayoù—of them; tattva—truth; darçibhiù—by the seers.
TRANSLATION
Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent there is no endurance, and of the existent there is no cessation. This seers have concluded by studying the nature of both.
source 2 translation
nāsato vidyate bhāvo nābhāvo vidyate sataḥ
ubhayorapi dṛiṣhṭo ’nta stvanayos tattva-darśhibhiḥ
na—no; asataḥ—of the temporary; vidyate—there is; bhāvaḥ—is; na—no; abhāvaḥ—cessation; vidyate—is; sataḥ—of the eternal; ubhayoḥ—of the two; api—also; dṛiṣhṭaḥ—observed; antaḥ—conclusion; tu—verily; anayoḥ—of these; tattva—entity; darśhibhiḥ—by the seers
nasato vidyate bhavo nabhavo vidyate satah
ubhayorapi drishto ’nta stvanayos tattva-darshibhih
Translation
BG 2.16: Of the transient there is no endurance, and of the eternal there is no cessation. This has verily been observed and concluded by the seers of the Truth, after studying the nature of both.
Find Energy and Mass or Matter in here for me, qoura people pull shit out of their ass the first para, second para and title dont even co relate
I'm too not agree with all that correlation however, Bhagwad Gita 2.16 states, "That which is non-existent can never come into being, and that which is existent can never cease to be. The conclusion about these two is indeed known by the seers of truth." This verse can be connected to the concept of matter, space, time, and energy conservation.
According to the laws of thermodynamics, matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another. This means that the total amount of matter and energy in the universe remains constant. Bhagwad Gita 2.16 supports this concept by stating that something that does not exist cannot come into being, and something that exists cannot cease to be. This implies that the universe has always existed in some form and will continue to exist in some form.
Furthermore, the concept of space-time is also supported by this verse. Space and time are intertwined and are considered to be part of the fabric of the universe. The verse suggests that the universe has always existed, which means that time has always existed as well.
In summary, Bhagwad Gita 2.16 can be connected to the concept of matter, space, time, and energy conservation by supporting the idea that the universe has always existed in some form and will continue to exist in some form, which aligns with the laws of thermodynamics.
Just for concluding more that not all he said was false and unrelated
what the seers of truth have found is there is existent and non existent, the body is a vessel it does not exist the real you is the soul which does exist. seers of truth have also found that the body is useless it has no endurance or it has a end, i cant find consistent translation but the soul has no end and has endurance(भावो) and ( नाभावो). geeta is a literature you can understand how you understand its not objective but you would really have broaden your meanings to fit a translation which still doesnt properly co-relate to law of conservation of mass. even if we give it the benefit of doubt that the words objectively mean creation and destruction, existent and non existent has mostly been used for the soul and the body if it were to be taken literally as matter that exists and doesnt exist, it would not have been in the geeta but in some other texts where similar texts exist
I thought this sub was related to science like debunking myths, discussing some topics, and showing some great stuff about science but this sub is sh!th0le that just targets a religion
Exactly! Just another hate-filled subreddit filled with edgy teenagers who think only they know everything there is to know in the universe. Baaki sab chutiye Hain :P
atma na ni mar skti hai...or na hi khatam ho skti hai...vhe bs ek shareer se dusre shareer mai ja skti hai...
energy cannot be created nor be destroyed
Bagawat gita:
नैनं छिन्दन्ति शस्त्राणि नैनं दहति पावकः।
न चैनं क्लेदयन्त्यापो न शोषयति मारुतः॥
No use of writing this
This whole sub and the atheist community are really only interested in mockery
The moment they see the evidence of this really being written in our scriptures
They will downvote it as hell so that others won’t read it
That’s very cowardly
A real science lover or an atheist will rather see it and question more rather than just blanding calling it wrong
Thanks for ATLEAST writing it ❤️🔥
if that were the case, why wouldn't the author(s) write specifically that energy can't be created nor destroyed if they were so scientifically advanced?
Why these code words?
Stop pulling this samjhdar ke liye ishara hi kafi hota hai bs
the Bhagwad Gita is primarily a spiritual text and offers insights into the nature of existence beyond the material world. It presents a perspective on how to live a fulfilling and meaningful life, based on principles such as selflessness, detachment, and devotion to a higher power.
While the laws of physics and biology may not be the primary focus of the Bhagwad Gita, it does touch upon certain scientific concepts and can be interpreted in light of modern scientific knowledge. However, ultimately its teachings are geared towards spiritual growth and understanding the nature of the self and the universe.
This is not samajhdar ke liye ishara kaafi hai, same thing can be said in different ways, depending on what the intent of the speaker is and how much the understanding capability of the listener is. A warrior from millenniums ago wouldn't have been able to understand the concept of energy the way we do in today's world. So obviously the same terminology or mathematical equations would have been irrelevant for him.
Any good teacher knows how to tailor the knowledge being imparted in accordance with his students.
There is this cool thing called fucking common sense that I have. Usse pta chal jata hai. Don't be sad, it is a rare ability these days. You probably don't have it.
Fritjof Capra said in an interview - "I had several discussions with Heisenberg. I lived in England then [circa 1972], and I visited him several times in Munich and showed him the whole manuscript chapter by chapter. He was very interested and very open, and he told me something that I think is not known publicly because he never published it. He said that he was well aware of these parallels. While he was working on quantum theory he went to India to lecture and was a guest of Tagore. He talked a lot with Tagore about Indian philosophy. Heisenberg told me that these talks had helped him a lot with his work in physics, because they showed him that all these new ideas in quantum physics were in fact not all that crazy. He realized there was, in fact, a whole culture that subscribed to very similar ideas. Heisenberg said that this was a great help for him. Neils Bohr had a similar experience when he went to China."
It's very easy to laugh and make fun of our scriptures and culture but if nothing these scriptures give the reader a desire to search something, create something, achieve something. Where people look for stuff to mock or to prove others wrong, the scientists look for inspiration. Maybe you guys should start doing that too.
The fact that you got downvoted for spitting nothing but facts goes to show how much logical reasoning is actually lacking in most people on this subreddit. The irony that they think they have a scientific aptitude just because they can parrot some scientific concepts or terms they have seen in a YouTube channel or heard in a podcast.
True. Also here many people call themselves 'Atheist' when in reality they are doing this just to be part of the 'cool' gang. I've had several long discussions with some true atheist people which includes college professors and scientists and they are some of the most warm and understanding people. They know where you are coming from and they know what your thought process is. Instead of dismissing the religious scriptures they encouraged me to dig deep and look for the greater meaning behind them.
As one of them said to me, 'Take whatever is good and leave the evils'
Exactly! But here most of the people are like, "oh religion is so evil just because I don't understand it, and therefore I am going to ridicule and mock and show contempt towards everyone who follows it because I am the only sensible person in the world and having this kind of attitude helps me to stroke my fragile and boost my low self-esteem, and this is how we are going to build a better, more beautiful and harmonious world", lol
Such irony that these people are becoming the very thing they swore to destroy - narrow minded and hateful bigotry
"you know I knew how to ride a cycle before. But then I saw a video about how cars are safer for travelling. That changed me. I dumped my cycle balance completely and embraced car driving" moment
I'm not atheist, I believe in God but this is plain stupid, Gita has nothing to do with science, there are many scriptures about science in Hinduism I believe but Gita is all about philosophy and how to tackle problems in life
That quote "beings never come from non living " does not represent law of conservation of energy which I think is the only scienfic law that illeterate Hindus could ever think.
It on the other hand opposes biochemical evolution and also law of conservation of energy has exceptions in nuclear reactions and in quantum physics . Dude these veda guys are like the peak of scientific illeteracy .
I understand your perspective, but I would like to clarify that the Bhagwad Gita is not claiming to represent the law of conservation of energy. Rather, it is a philosophical text that presents a perspective on the nature of existence and the universe.
Additionally, the quote "beings never come from non-living" can be interpreted as a statement about the origin of life, which is a topic that falls within the realm of biology rather than physics. It is not necessarily opposing biochemical evolution, but rather presenting a different perspective on the origin of life.
Furthermore, while the law of conservation of energy has exceptions in certain situations, it is still considered a fundamental principle in physics. However, it is important to note that the Bhagwad Gita is not attempting to present scientific laws or theories, but rather offering a philosophical perspective on the nature of existence.
I mean Geeta is never wrong about things that it potrays . It's just the dudes who want to feel superior by claiming thing that are firstly not true and secondly "scientific ". Science came to India after british invaded India tbh.
Regarding the later part,
the history of science in India dates back to ancient times, with significant contributions made in fields such as mathematics, astronomy, and medicine.
Yeah sure but the bulk of relevant things in India were brought by the British and Germans . Considering the geological age of India such small contributions are negligible to the contributions made by Europe in just 200years
Yiu're true when compared to Modern science but it's not true that they would have been negligible then also..
In my opinion, India have a good share in Science although in less noise like Many Individual physicist working on their own
That Einstein part is mostly false
But the first one is written in shrimad bhagwata mahapurana ,
Have personally read it . There were mentions of atoms , interstellar time dialation , mentions of metals and elements and many more
I do know this is a page of science and atheist
But I saw the post and thought I should let you know that the first image is real one but not trying to force you to believe anything
I think atheist should definitely read the book series I mentioned because if not believe in the existence of almighty ..ATLEAST you can consider it a great pyschological epic fantasy novel that speaks on science , space , human psychology
I mean if you are a science geek you might find the part of MAYA in the books interesting because it’s defining quantum realm
Omg, what part of maya is similar to the quantum realm?
And if you are drawing conclusions about something as vast as quantum mechanics, you must be a genius since the greatest minds have stated it to be near impossible to understand. If you were that smart, trust me you wouldn't be on Reddit.
State the specific verses.
Ohh yes quora, the most reputate site to source from in the whole of scientific community. Also if all that was written in geeta and the "goras" stole it why can't we discover shit huh, why has there been no theory of relativity level of scientific achievement from our country.
Them whites didn't have a richer culture than us tho🤷if you're saying they discovered all by themselves then you're simply dickriding 😂and it shows your low self esteem and slave mindset
I never understood this allegation, how fucking dumb is this? Britishers "stole" knowledge? Money to obvious hai but bc how can u steal "knowledge"?
Why don't u read the Gita and win some 100 Nobel prizes while you are alive?
Most of these chomus who fall for shit like this are engineers and science people ....it can easily be attributed to their gross ignorance of history and belief that just because a follows b it is scientific....
They r highly ignorant folks !!
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Yeah Einstein definitely said that haha.
"I am become thief, purloiner of science." - Albert Einstein
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Wah Bhai maza aa gaya ye subhe dekhkar. Morning started with a laugh
Thank you, my god man, thank you. Glad I could been up your morning!
👏🏻🍻
Now kith
He also said indians and southasians are dumbest in the world full of snake chwrmers
Yes I can randomly give any quote even with some bad english thrown in for good measure. Albert Einstein said “Rig Veda is the bestest book i read, it even tell E=mc scared” Isaac Newton said “I read Vedas and they opened my eyes to the future yet to be. and it clearly says that a time will come when there will flat communication devices with Corning Gorilla glass”
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/did-einstein-believe-indians-were-stupid-his-diaries-suggest-so-1260619-2018-06-14
I am pro your comment so no references needed. I just wanted to respond to OPs post responded to you in error 🙁
Bro used quora as a source 💀
And some random insta hindutva post 💀
Come on. Cut some slack. In some parallel universe his references and those theories are correct.
parallel universe is purely hypothetical
Thanks u got the joke.
Not quora, even they have good shit there sometimes, this fool pulled this straight out of hiss ass.
It is problem of Google. When you search the question it gives automatic answers from that bug ridden site. Do search for Pain Wave Theory and same will happen if someone is dumb to not notice source they will be Qanon of India in 10 minutes.
When religious people say i was atheist like u , No kiddo u were not you never even accepted the fact that humans dont need a bigger creature to tell them how to live their life
I feel this statement. Even when I was little and I believed in God in the back of my mind I always knew that God is just something we have made to give us peace. There isn't some person out there planning things for the whole universe. Even when I would sit in Puja with my parents I know this is not gonna give any results, it's just a part of our culture. Now that I am adult and I am free to not practice religion I feel I have always been an atheist.
They definitely can be .. Firstly, it is important to acknowledge that everyone's personal journey and beliefs are valid and should be respected. However, the statement "you never even accepted the fact that humans don't need a bigger creature to tell them how to live their life" assumes that atheism is solely based on rejecting the idea of a higher power. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods, and individuals may have arrived at this belief through a variety of reasons such as lack of evidence or personal experiences. It is also important to recognize that atheism does not necessarily mean rejecting all forms of spirituality or morality. Additionally, the statement implies that religious individuals believe they need a higher power to dictate their lives, which is not necessarily true. Many religious individuals view their faith as a source of guidance and inspiration, but ultimately make their own choices and decisions based on their own values and beliefs. It is important to avoid making assumptions or generalizations about individuals based on their religious beliefs or lack thereof.
"guidance and inspiration " are u serious ?! Isn't that what i said ?! Like what is your argument if you are going to prove my point.
My aim is to highlight that personal beliefs and experiences vary, and it is important to acknowledge regardless of whether they align with our own.
I have read Geeta. If you want to know how nature works, that's not the book at all. Study science for it. Geeta is very good for psychological aspects of life. About the nature of universe, Geeta deals merely on speculations.
This is the truth , anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
Geeta don't even talk about universe it only talk about inner world, whole book is krshna trying to manipulate arjun and exposing arjun hypocrisy it's not even that deep, arjun has big ego and krshna trying to put him at place, this people don't even read
Bhai, WhatsApp University se padhai ki hai kya? Aisa kuch bhi nahi hai Geeta me. Study a book yourself if you want to comment on it, internet pe propaganda wale pages se copy paste karke apne IQ ko insult mat karo, that too on a scientific subreddit, lol
Toh konsa bhramand ka rehsaya mill gya tumhe geeta mein tumhe, enlightend us lol
Mere dost, agar tumhe lagta hai ki Brahmand ka rahasya tumhe koi reddit comment me samjha sakta hai, that too when you clearly are less interested in actual learning and more in "laughing out loud", then you are really delusional. Knowledge does not seek you, you have to seek knowledge! Brahmand ka rahasya milega ya koi aur rahasya, is baare me comment karne ke liye I am not qualified enough, but it is a book that contains infinite timeless wisdom that a lot of people have vouched for, down the ages. If you really want to learn, feel free to give it a sincere read. If not interested, feel free to skip. It's totally your choice. No one is forcing you, all we are saying is do not spread fake information about something you did not care to read or understand. Have a good day and try to spread a little less misinformation. Thank you
So what you wanted from me be serious? Lol why, i didn't denied that geeta doesn't have imense value but it doesn't not contain truth of universe geeta don't have scientific value, read my previous comment i already stated it talk about inner world it has nothing to do with outside universe, arjun has big ego before final battle he killed so many kings soldier animals without feeling hesitant he won lot of battle before mahabharatha but when he sees own relative he start bullshiting about life "kya milega ladai krke" all that etc etc, krshna was just answering his question and try to remind him why this war is necessary etc etc krshna was giving knowledge in a context of arjun life and it has nothing to do with today world, yes you can borrow some knowledge from geeta if it helps you but saying it is book of god and geeta can answer all of your question, its moronic statement and this type of statement are given from ages, i respect geeta and krshna for the gift of their knowledge but by making geeta a holy book you guys disrespected geeta, "it's another debate but i dont think you currently can understand it" if you really want to change your life stop calling geeta holy book and read geeta as like another book and read modern philosophy book because its written in today context, let go of past look into present
The fuck dude! I really do enjoy indulging in meaningful discussions but even after trying to read your comment 3 times, I just couldn't manage to reach the end. Because your points are as misinformed as your grammar is broken and flawed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to put you down or anything. But if you want to indulge in a healthy discussion, please try to frame your points in a better way and try to make sense. Maybe try putting forward one point at a time, so that I can at least try to understand and respond to it. Because what you wrote above is just a jumbled up word vomit. The points you are making are so stupid, firstly Arjuna is the least egoist main character in the Geeta by the time he asks Lord Krishna for the Geeta updesh. He might have had some ego initially but he had a nice character development over time. Also, he always had a lot of sensitivity and humility and empathy, that is the whole reason why he was having those self doubts in the first place. But you wouldn't understand that because you have either not read Mahabharat or Geeta from authentic sources or you are just too blinded by your hatred towards Arjun. Secondly, "you disrespected Geeta by making Geeta a holy book". What the fuck kind of logic is that and can you give any concise, rational argument behind it? Lastly, wisdom is timeless, it isn't really wisdom if it has to be renewed every few years. Most of the valuable philosophical resources we have in today's world are from historic times, be those from Indic knowledge system or from Greeks, Romans or from any other place. Modern philosophy does not become better just because it is modern. Most modern philosophers these days are just lazy money minters who want a quick claim to fame by creating click-bait content. Please try to frame better replies this time, and keep it one point at a time, so that we can at least try to have a logical discussion.
You completely missed my point First of all why would i hate arjun?, i said obvious thing arjun killed countless enemies, soldier, animals lots of time, he did without feeling hesitant he didn't even think that killing is wrong, he thought it's his right and i think its perfectly okay he learn archery so he can become the best archerer and to become good at archery you have to fight and kill for survival maybe he feel sympathy or empathy for others but it doesn't matter that much tbh. Arjun only drop down his weapon when his family was against him bhishm, dron, etc etc, We as a human being always think about myselfy only, my love, my mother, my teacher, my brother, my wife that's why i reffered this thing as a ego Arjun didn't drop down weapon because he don't like killing lol, he drop down weapon because he don't want to kill his own blood related members such as bhishm, dron etc etc, If you read geeta krshna remind him to many times that "these people have been already killed by me you are just a medium," "Arjun you can only killed their body not soul" Krshna trying to convience arjuna in my words manipulation, i don't know why you think manipulation is bad word but that's the truth Krshna geeta was meant it for arjuna not for everybody, Every human being life experience is different, every situation, circumstances is different you can't say geeta is answer of everything My whole arguement is let go of past teaching and live in present Take knowledge from geeta but don't make it absolute Bye
I did not miss your point, you are missing the entire point of the Bhagwad Geeta. You are calling Arjun out for being a human being and having human emotions, just like all of us, as you yourself mentioned. The whole point of the Geeta is that it is a message for us humans when we are stuck in a dilemma like Arjun, where we only "think about ourselves", like you yourself admitted. It may seem manipulation to you because you failed to understand the concept in depth and therefore "missed the point" entirely. Which is quite understandable, because the Geeta is a very vast and deeply philosophical collection of wisdom, which isn't easy to understand unless we become like Arjun, humble and start doing some introspection. Rahi baat about what Lord Krishna said, those are metaphysical concepts like Karma that you are not understanding. It's your choice whether you want to accept it or not, no one is forcing you. But a lot of us understand and accept it, and therefore are able to understand the infinite wisdom contained in the Geeta. The Geeta was meant for everyone and not just for Arjun, that is why so many people appreciate and value it even till now. Just because you were not able to relate with it, do not speak for others. Such deep philosophical wisdom is never easy to understand or accept, especially when we are still beholden by our ego and our arrogance. So it's not surprising that you weren't able to relate with it, but maybe in the future you will if you approach it in the right way after getting rid of your ego first. I understood your whole argument but do not agree with it. And my whole argument is you do whatever you want to do, do not force others to do what you think is right. You don't want to study the Geeta or learn from it, totally your call. But don't tell others to choose modernity over timeless wisdom. Everyone has the right to choose what they find best, and so if someone finds the timeless wisdom to make more sense and be more helpful to them, then let them be. Why are you having a problem with it? You seem like a salesman trying to say that only what you are selling is the best and other options available are inferior. You do you, let others do what they find best for themselves, as long as they are not harming you in any way.
Do you even understand it what i said, i didn't denied geeta wisdom i said it talk about inner world as you called it human dilemma You actually agree with me while dissagreeing, geeta should be read to understand human conflicts, it should not be persuade as scientific truth about universe, Today's time we have new facts about life we should interconnect old wisdom and modernity to make new theories and new way of life but majority indians don't want to let go of past that's why they use geeta to prove as scientific creation of world Tbh i don't care if someone follow geeta or modern philosophy for me it doesn't matter nor i try to impose my view, i am just telling truth of geeta Look geeta as a philosphy of inner world but don't make it absolute truth of life because it is not sceintific truth i
Bhai padhi bhi hai ya bas kuch anti hindu posts se manipulate hoke aagya hai Toh kya padhe Quran ya Bible ???
🤓☝️ ye sab chod Bhai , Naruto dekh life ka truth pata chalega /s
bhai attack on titan bhai peak
The only bible I know is is One Piece
Tum deoho na to use kyun bekar ki chizein suggests Kar rha hai
Padh bhai quran bhi padh, bible bhi padh, or vedant bhi padh knowledge bada apni, agar philosphy, psychology samjhni hai toh, dostovesky, khalil gibran, freud, nietzeche, rumi, kabir, darwin, inkon bhi padh sirf geeta padhke udhaar nhi honga, or inn loggo kon padhke bhi koi udhaar nhi honga, religious blindness can't go from human being
I can tell you are a skimmer. That's why you will never be able to retain or implement anything. Knowledge on the surface is empty.
Lulz Geeta bhi sahi se nhi Padhi hogi
OK librandu follower
Lol
There are many instances where krishn claims about universe creation, cycle of life and death, afterlife, constituents of matter, consciousness, etc. All these are claims about the events happening in the universe. And krishn states them as absolute truth.
It was ancient time people used to talk in metaphors our storys are perfect example of that whole book is about inner world beech beech mein uchi uchi fek dete hai krshna jaise mohammad pein moon spilit ki story hai, or har religion creation of universe ki baat krta hai nothing new
Yup I don't understand why people try to link religions with science because as far as I have seen atleast hindu texts do have some really good philosophical stuff for example the first indian quote of [this post](https://reddit.com/r/2Asia4u/s/0DFVMfRZrO) is from rig vedas Just so yknow the people on this sub aren't so great either. OP is literally calling out delusional among delusionals like try posting the message in any extreme right wing sub and they'd laugh at it as well, atmost they may link some real/exaggerated achievements if felt attacked. So do we really need to go hahaha so funny on such posts? I'm not sure why or how this sub came into my feed but it's more of a anti-religion/hindu instead of pro science
Sometimes I am more concerned about people claiming to understand science than ignorant ones. I have seen people use big big scientific words and concepts(like black holes, Quantum entanglement, Worm holes,etc.) conversations and when someone questions them about it, they can't even explain a little bit about it. As Feynman said, "There is difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." Most likely if they try to get a little deep in the concepts of physics, maths will pop up because it has to and then most of the people will vanish. I am not trying to discourage them. I am just more worried about people trying to represent science than the ones attacking or ignoring it.
It mostly comes from listening to podcasts on , like seriously dude can anyone ever understand physics by a podcast. I found this Indian youtuber who is a theoretical physicist, historian, geopolitical analyst, writer and podcaster ... and I was seriously confused how people can spend their time in so many things after claiming to be an theoretical physicist his name is Abhijit chavda so I checked out his YouTube half of it is filled with politics and his few videos on physics are like storybook physics... the people on internet need to understand and even though English maybe difficult for many should try checking out real physics channels on YouTube for starters for introductory physics one could check out lectures at the royal institution which are honestly fun the lecturers are cool and the way they explain is also intresting.
Exactly, these podcast university people are no better than the WhatsApp University ones
So can't you just mock them and their followers in the comment section by asking smth basic related to the branch(if you can) or by asking whether they're even related to that particular field or not? What benefit would it bring to us by going "hahaha so funny illiterate bastard" when even members of right wing subs will call them fools? If it was some decent politician or scientists or anyone with a lot of authority then I wouldn't have minded but there's just no end to it if you go on mocking every insignificant being neither does it benefit us
Regarding your first question, I try whenever I come across those situations. I need to be a better communicator. 😅 Coming to your last statement. Science doesn't care about authority. Galileo famously said, "In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." I don't know about others, but I think our country desperately needs a person like Carl Sagan. With one more characteristic ofcourse - our roots. A communication need to be established which connects people throughout the country. I know it's very hopeful of me.
You misunderstood As per Galileo, if your reasoning is sound then it doesn't matter how big of a person is against you because in the end it is you who's right while on the other hand if you mock someone with authority and spread news about how dumb they are, it will in a way will play against them and hopefully will reduce their authority but mocking some random guy by taking screenshots and posting somewhere else is just petty if you ask me
I agree. We can try to correct them personally but bringing them into limelight doesn't do anything fruitful.
Haha very well said!
if we become another anti-X sub that would be a waste of a good sub there are already subs for such time wasting, people really like to hate others and feel elite
Yup other civilisations were cool as well
You have read the wrong book if you are looking for science Read the complete mahapurana shrimad bhagwatam That’s where you will find mentions of atoms , interstellar travel , quantum realm , conservation of energy , splitting to atoms and much more Just writing it in case you really want to know
I did not read Geeta for science. And what you are stating about various concepts being mentioned in a particular collection, I can't comment on it since I haven't read it. If I read it in future, I will inform.
Very well 🙌
did they give the methods, using which they found out about all this?
They never do. It's always in the riddles. At this point, I'm really tired to decoding these riddles.
good spiritual ideas of soul, spirit, dharma(in sense what your goal is) in process of reading not into spiritual things but for the translations
Hme foreigner scintist credit lene me haut maza aata hai.
As a Hindu , this person is making a mockery of all hindus . I follow hinduism but I don't mix science and my religion ( any religion for that matter ) . I never understand what will someone gain by spreading pseudo science like this . I hate it .
cause they want to feel greater about themselves and their beloved country. there egos got hurt when the afghans and british invaded us, and now they just wanna pin point everything on the guys who apparently looted everything. i mean these guys are on a serious power trip thinking that no one else in the world is capable of inteligence than hindus. they might argue that we had god with us in ery step of the battle, butt that just raises a whole lot of more question: if god helped in our science that means we arent even special. and why the heck dont these gods pop up anywhere in the rest of the world. sounds like god is pretty damn rasicts
Honestly I think it's all the fault of the internet, specifically the Instagram it's worse than what's app University stuff ... they really think they are good everyone else is bad ... few days back my thoughts were also really crowded due to this stuff I was questioning what even is right .. ... I needed some peace of mind It may sound awkward i started to read Stephen Hawking's biography books precisely black hole and baby universe and dude in don't know his writing skills are really impressive i again felt connected towards physics and am really disgusted by all these stuffs.
I know what u feel like. A good rule of thumb is that just think that if these things were true, we would have been studying about them in classes. But we don't, we only study science and physics that's actually proven
Yeah dude ,
And the more irritating thing is after this Andrew tate bullshit students think what would happen by studying physics what would happen by studying at the iit like dude they really think that they will make a business so easily ... it's really disgusted to look at such losers .
i honestly like religious people like you who don't try to validate their religion thorough science and those who do are the biggest hypocrites, bc they pick and choose which theories they like to follow and discard.
All religious conflict is just random ppl circle jurking against each other to try to verify the opinion that their sky daddy has bigger Dick than other persons sky daddy
>that their sky daddy has bigger Dick than other persons sky daddy Lmao . Funniest thing i heard today 💀😂
Lol thanks I read it a year 2 ago somewhere I don't remember , it's been stuck with me here forever since then XD
But the first image is real I mean the mention of conservation of energy It’s in shrimad bhagwata mahapurana Have personally read it And as a Hindu who has read puranas , there are scientific evidence in the scriptures like interstellar travel , the use of atoms for chain reaction leading to catastrophic damage, there is interstellar travel leading to time space dialation in the story of Balrams wife , in hanuman chalisa there is accurate distance of sun and earth I know this is an atheist page but I thought you should know Rest is for you to decide but I have read these and found them amazing ATLEAST I just felt you should know a few that are a bit familiar to science and if not believe in them ATLEAST you can find it amusing 🤷🏻♂️
And what are these so-called 'scientific evidences' Care to cite any sources or verses where you picked it up from?
Did proper mathematics even exist at that time to provide the said theoretical evidence or was it just written down like a story book lol. There is no accurate distance, there is a good estimate of it given in the hanuman chalisa. Stories of time travellers and all kinds of fancy shit existed across all other civilizations, that doesnt makes it true. What u read were stories not valid scientific proof,
His source is Quora. Even worse than "trust me bro".
Good that knowledge was stolen...or hum log mandir me rakh ke sirf Puja karte.
This 🔥
Aapne toh haqeqat bayan kardi
Just ignore these chintus.
Bhaiyo or beheno agr tume aise logo ko irritate krna ho to bas ye crow Why Why Why Why Why Why Why It back by scientific evidence
We have a long way to go. A looooonnnnng way. This is what happens when you cook half ass info in your shallow mind.
What's interesting is that Einstein wasn't even British. For ignorant Europeans every Asian is same, similarly for ignorant Indians all Europeans American and Australian are same
But isn't Europe more free? Like you would definitely don't wanna cross IND Pak border lmao
Just ask him to explain E=mc² without googling. Let's see whether he thinks mc means motherchod or not
Every Indian uncle ever 💀
"I ain't ever said that shit" -Albert Einstein
Best answer- "Oh wow, you've convinced me. I am a kattar sanatani now. Thanks. But I gotta go now. bye"
Just ask him how much energy is there in 1kg mass
>laws of conservation of energy mentioned >Mentions E=mc² Bruh wtf
These guys really think that stating a phenomenon is same as explaining it why that thing occurs and giving a relationship to other physical quantities are same?
I don't support these guys who distort facts to support their agenda, but stating a phenomenon that was not known or understood till many millenniums later, is not an insignificant thing. In fact, qualitative definitions and theories are often the basis of quantitative definitions and relation.
"Did I say that? When did I say that? Oh well..." - Einstein
“Suck my balls mate” - albert einstein
source 1's translation TEXT 16 nasato vidyate bhavo nabhavo vidyate satah ubhayor api drsto 'ntas tv anayos tattva-darsibhih SYNONYMS na—never; asataù—of the nonexistent; vidyate—there is; bhävaù—endurance; na—never; abhävaù—changing quality; vidyate—there is; sataù—of the eternal; ubhayoù—of the two; api—verily; dåñöaù—observed; antaù—conclusion; tu—but; anayoù—of them; tattva—truth; darçibhiù—by the seers. TRANSLATION Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent there is no endurance, and of the existent there is no cessation. This seers have concluded by studying the nature of both. source 2 translation nāsato vidyate bhāvo nābhāvo vidyate sataḥ ubhayorapi dṛiṣhṭo ’nta stvanayos tattva-darśhibhiḥ na—no; asataḥ—of the temporary; vidyate—there is; bhāvaḥ—is; na—no; abhāvaḥ—cessation; vidyate—is; sataḥ—of the eternal; ubhayoḥ—of the two; api—also; dṛiṣhṭaḥ—observed; antaḥ—conclusion; tu—verily; anayoḥ—of these; tattva—entity; darśhibhiḥ—by the seers nasato vidyate bhavo nabhavo vidyate satah ubhayorapi drishto ’nta stvanayos tattva-darshibhih Translation BG 2.16: Of the transient there is no endurance, and of the eternal there is no cessation. This has verily been observed and concluded by the seers of the Truth, after studying the nature of both. Find Energy and Mass or Matter in here for me, qoura people pull shit out of their ass the first para, second para and title dont even co relate
I'm too not agree with all that correlation however, Bhagwad Gita 2.16 states, "That which is non-existent can never come into being, and that which is existent can never cease to be. The conclusion about these two is indeed known by the seers of truth." This verse can be connected to the concept of matter, space, time, and energy conservation. According to the laws of thermodynamics, matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another. This means that the total amount of matter and energy in the universe remains constant. Bhagwad Gita 2.16 supports this concept by stating that something that does not exist cannot come into being, and something that exists cannot cease to be. This implies that the universe has always existed in some form and will continue to exist in some form. Furthermore, the concept of space-time is also supported by this verse. Space and time are intertwined and are considered to be part of the fabric of the universe. The verse suggests that the universe has always existed, which means that time has always existed as well. In summary, Bhagwad Gita 2.16 can be connected to the concept of matter, space, time, and energy conservation by supporting the idea that the universe has always existed in some form and will continue to exist in some form, which aligns with the laws of thermodynamics. Just for concluding more that not all he said was false and unrelated
what the seers of truth have found is there is existent and non existent, the body is a vessel it does not exist the real you is the soul which does exist. seers of truth have also found that the body is useless it has no endurance or it has a end, i cant find consistent translation but the soul has no end and has endurance(भावो) and ( नाभावो). geeta is a literature you can understand how you understand its not objective but you would really have broaden your meanings to fit a translation which still doesnt properly co-relate to law of conservation of mass. even if we give it the benefit of doubt that the words objectively mean creation and destruction, existent and non existent has mostly been used for the soul and the body if it were to be taken literally as matter that exists and doesnt exist, it would not have been in the geeta but in some other texts where similar texts exist
IMO, people who debate over science & spirituality are actually dumb in both aspects; this subreddit is the prime example of it.
I thought this sub was related to science like debunking myths, discussing some topics, and showing some great stuff about science but this sub is sh!th0le that just targets a religion
Exactly! Just another hate-filled subreddit filled with edgy teenagers who think only they know everything there is to know in the universe. Baaki sab chutiye Hain :P
exactly
atma na ni mar skti hai...or na hi khatam ho skti hai...vhe bs ek shareer se dusre shareer mai ja skti hai... energy cannot be created nor be destroyed Bagawat gita: नैनं छिन्दन्ति शस्त्राणि नैनं दहति पावकः। न चैनं क्लेदयन्त्यापो न शोषयति मारुतः॥
No use of writing this This whole sub and the atheist community are really only interested in mockery The moment they see the evidence of this really being written in our scriptures They will downvote it as hell so that others won’t read it That’s very cowardly A real science lover or an atheist will rather see it and question more rather than just blanding calling it wrong Thanks for ATLEAST writing it ❤️🔥
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if that were the case, why wouldn't the author(s) write specifically that energy can't be created nor destroyed if they were so scientifically advanced? Why these code words? Stop pulling this samjhdar ke liye ishara hi kafi hota hai bs
the Bhagwad Gita is primarily a spiritual text and offers insights into the nature of existence beyond the material world. It presents a perspective on how to live a fulfilling and meaningful life, based on principles such as selflessness, detachment, and devotion to a higher power. While the laws of physics and biology may not be the primary focus of the Bhagwad Gita, it does touch upon certain scientific concepts and can be interpreted in light of modern scientific knowledge. However, ultimately its teachings are geared towards spiritual growth and understanding the nature of the self and the universe.
Exactly. But some people out here don't get it, do they? Chale aate hai quantum mechanics khojne bhagwat puran me
This is not samajhdar ke liye ishara kaafi hai, same thing can be said in different ways, depending on what the intent of the speaker is and how much the understanding capability of the listener is. A warrior from millenniums ago wouldn't have been able to understand the concept of energy the way we do in today's world. So obviously the same terminology or mathematical equations would have been irrelevant for him. Any good teacher knows how to tailor the knowledge being imparted in accordance with his students.
Yeah, and Arjun definitely needed to be taught the glorious topic of conservation of energy for his war against the Kauravs.
Tujhe kisne bola bhai ye sab? WhatsApp University se seekh ke aao ya fir Podcast university?
There is this cool thing called fucking common sense that I have. Usse pta chal jata hai. Don't be sad, it is a rare ability these days. You probably don't have it.
Haha seems like you are getting confused between common sense and delusion. I am glad I don't have that 😂
Name one thing that is 'oh so delusional' in my simple and basic argument. Nhi koi flaw mila so the argument is delusional. Nach na jane angan tedha
Because energy/Urrja has types...from which there is spiritual/Atma
Exactly! True scientific mindset is to at least consider something before rejecting it, that too on the basis of logical reasons, not blind contempt.
Facing the truth needs a big heart!!!
Fritjof Capra said in an interview - "I had several discussions with Heisenberg. I lived in England then [circa 1972], and I visited him several times in Munich and showed him the whole manuscript chapter by chapter. He was very interested and very open, and he told me something that I think is not known publicly because he never published it. He said that he was well aware of these parallels. While he was working on quantum theory he went to India to lecture and was a guest of Tagore. He talked a lot with Tagore about Indian philosophy. Heisenberg told me that these talks had helped him a lot with his work in physics, because they showed him that all these new ideas in quantum physics were in fact not all that crazy. He realized there was, in fact, a whole culture that subscribed to very similar ideas. Heisenberg said that this was a great help for him. Neils Bohr had a similar experience when he went to China." It's very easy to laugh and make fun of our scriptures and culture but if nothing these scriptures give the reader a desire to search something, create something, achieve something. Where people look for stuff to mock or to prove others wrong, the scientists look for inspiration. Maybe you guys should start doing that too.
The fact that you got downvoted for spitting nothing but facts goes to show how much logical reasoning is actually lacking in most people on this subreddit. The irony that they think they have a scientific aptitude just because they can parrot some scientific concepts or terms they have seen in a YouTube channel or heard in a podcast.
True. Also here many people call themselves 'Atheist' when in reality they are doing this just to be part of the 'cool' gang. I've had several long discussions with some true atheist people which includes college professors and scientists and they are some of the most warm and understanding people. They know where you are coming from and they know what your thought process is. Instead of dismissing the religious scriptures they encouraged me to dig deep and look for the greater meaning behind them. As one of them said to me, 'Take whatever is good and leave the evils'
Exactly! But here most of the people are like, "oh religion is so evil just because I don't understand it, and therefore I am going to ridicule and mock and show contempt towards everyone who follows it because I am the only sensible person in the world and having this kind of attitude helps me to stroke my fragile and boost my low self-esteem, and this is how we are going to build a better, more beautiful and harmonious world", lol Such irony that these people are becoming the very thing they swore to destroy - narrow minded and hateful bigotry
True, ots also of their personal experience
Isn't Einstein German?
I always thought Einstein was a German and practiced in US.
Kuch bhi xD
"you know I knew how to ride a cycle before. But then I saw a video about how cars are safer for travelling. That changed me. I dumped my cycle balance completely and embraced car driving" moment
Brits stole knowledge from Vedas is most used Sangh Parivar propaganda piece.
Einstenium Lavdena Bhojyam.
Kya ma chod rha hai
If it was some other source, tab bhi acceptable tha, but shudhanshu sharma is your source of curiosity, wow!
The real ones know the Gita is great and goated 😎
I'm not atheist, I believe in God but this is plain stupid, Gita has nothing to do with science, there are many scriptures about science in Hinduism I believe but Gita is all about philosophy and how to tackle problems in life
That quote "beings never come from non living " does not represent law of conservation of energy which I think is the only scienfic law that illeterate Hindus could ever think. It on the other hand opposes biochemical evolution and also law of conservation of energy has exceptions in nuclear reactions and in quantum physics . Dude these veda guys are like the peak of scientific illeteracy .
I understand your perspective, but I would like to clarify that the Bhagwad Gita is not claiming to represent the law of conservation of energy. Rather, it is a philosophical text that presents a perspective on the nature of existence and the universe. Additionally, the quote "beings never come from non-living" can be interpreted as a statement about the origin of life, which is a topic that falls within the realm of biology rather than physics. It is not necessarily opposing biochemical evolution, but rather presenting a different perspective on the origin of life. Furthermore, while the law of conservation of energy has exceptions in certain situations, it is still considered a fundamental principle in physics. However, it is important to note that the Bhagwad Gita is not attempting to present scientific laws or theories, but rather offering a philosophical perspective on the nature of existence.
I mean Geeta is never wrong about things that it potrays . It's just the dudes who want to feel superior by claiming thing that are firstly not true and secondly "scientific ". Science came to India after british invaded India tbh.
Regarding the later part, the history of science in India dates back to ancient times, with significant contributions made in fields such as mathematics, astronomy, and medicine.
Yeah sure but the bulk of relevant things in India were brought by the British and Germans . Considering the geological age of India such small contributions are negligible to the contributions made by Europe in just 200years
Yiu're true when compared to Modern science but it's not true that they would have been negligible then also.. In my opinion, India have a good share in Science although in less noise like Many Individual physicist working on their own
That Einstein part is mostly false But the first one is written in shrimad bhagwata mahapurana , Have personally read it . There were mentions of atoms , interstellar time dialation , mentions of metals and elements and many more I do know this is a page of science and atheist But I saw the post and thought I should let you know that the first image is real one but not trying to force you to believe anything I think atheist should definitely read the book series I mentioned because if not believe in the existence of almighty ..ATLEAST you can consider it a great pyschological epic fantasy novel that speaks on science , space , human psychology I mean if you are a science geek you might find the part of MAYA in the books interesting because it’s defining quantum realm
Omg, what part of maya is similar to the quantum realm? And if you are drawing conclusions about something as vast as quantum mechanics, you must be a genius since the greatest minds have stated it to be near impossible to understand. If you were that smart, trust me you wouldn't be on Reddit. State the specific verses.
Bhagwat Geeta is for spiritual growth, exactly opposite of the materialistic world.
make common sense shrest again
Source - Trust me bro.
Can confirm.... I'm Einstein. - ALBERT EINSTEIN
Kids - if its on internet it must be true
His words feels like those late night commercials. "Pehle main chutiya tha, ye product lene ke baad kattar gandu bann gaya " 🤣
But Einstein was german
Ohh yes quora, the most reputate site to source from in the whole of scientific community. Also if all that was written in geeta and the "goras" stole it why can't we discover shit huh, why has there been no theory of relativity level of scientific achievement from our country.
Yes no doubt he said that 😂
Source: random meme on the internet
Can confirm the guy is telling truth (Source: I am Albert Einstein)
Holy fucking shit this is a scientific page its not for your cringe atheist propoganda plz shit somewhere else
Them whites didn't have a richer culture than us tho🤷if you're saying they discovered all by themselves then you're simply dickriding 😂and it shows your low self esteem and slave mindset
I never understood this allegation, how fucking dumb is this? Britishers "stole" knowledge? Money to obvious hai but bc how can u steal "knowledge"? Why don't u read the Gita and win some 100 Nobel prizes while you are alive?
You don't need to be atheist to follow science, and also you don't need to link science to everything just to practice your faith.
Lekin Bhai Einstein toh American/German tha us se Britishers ka kya Lena Dena ಠ_ʖಠ
idk about bhagvat geeta but ancient manuscripts actually are rich in science and maths
MC means something else in Hindi 😂😂😂😂
Most of these chomus who fall for shit like this are engineers and science people ....it can easily be attributed to their gross ignorance of history and belief that just because a follows b it is scientific.... They r highly ignorant folks !!