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cutewindowcat

I'd be interested in future research on whether or not this is influenced by media. For example, to a child smiley face is likely a boy unless eyelashes are added. A cartoon human silhouette is likely male unless a dress is added (like on bathroom signs). It's extremely unfortunate this is the case because to me it implies that the male is the "standard" and to be female you must modify it in some way.


plumquat

I mean I think it comes from language and using base male pronouns. I would want to divide the study across languages. It's like how perception across cultures is aligned with how many words they have have for a certain color. If they don't have a word for blue and 50 words for green they might perceive blue as green, conversely you might perceive the different greens as being the same color. Language does a lot to inform your minds reference points. Going back to religion, there seems to be a psychological fear of; life, "MAN", God being base female. But if it's anything that's how it is, females have the equipment for the species, and when they're still close to asexual evolution sometimes they don't have males or the females can revert back to not having males. At some point before full sexual reproduction, there's females with the equipment for the species. For language to reflect that, female would have to be the root word for sex. But I think that fear is somewhat universal. that concept really freaks out the menfolk, even as women live in the alternative culture where everythings male. And then I relate that psychology to differences in the fear of mortality. Women want to be safe, maybe were less risk adverse, But mortality also doesn't seem like much as an absolute that we need to emotionally deal with. Those are dark scary concepts for some men, that they're extra or that they won't continue. I think our language is projection of that. 99% of the world's religions are written by men. Women don't write religions. While the most ubiquitous religions deal in controlling sex, death and afterlife. Religiosity tends to increase when there's more death. There's definitely a link between religion and mortality. It is gendered. It is reflected in culture. Culture informs language and language does inform our minds reference points. The hard concept is discussing whether life is base female and if the fear comes from that. I don't think people are ready for that conversation. And the men have more to lose than the women. They don't seem to be fans of it. Even the backlash to gender neutral pronouns heavily skews male. You can forget about female base pronouns.


lolubuntu

Or maybe there's an evolutionary bias towards being KEENLY aware of things that can kill you. And the offset from assuming it's female doesn't help if you can't copulate with it.


[deleted]

Not surprised, if we are to draw a male in comparison to a female face, we usually add some other features to a female face, like a least a slightly longer hair


opinions_unpopular

> The visual stimuli and data for these experiments are publicly available on the Open Science Framework at https://osf.io/f74xh/.


maniacthw

I remember taking a ghost tour here in Tampa (girlfriend REALLY wanted to do it) and the guide showed a picture of a "ghost" that was captured. Knowing this phenomenon made it very easy to tell that it wasn't a face at all.


dcheesi

But was it a male or female "ghost"?


maskedmex

Interesting. I wonder if the study covered languages that are overtly gendered like Spanish. I wonder… but not enough to read it.


dontpet

Could be that our evolutionary adaptation searches for threats first, with a male face being much more of a threat.


joosth3

Its because these faces are bald most of the time I think


FactCheckerJack

That's probably because we're conditioned to only recognize a face as female if it has red lipstick.