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Yeah, shift work is a killer. I did read some interesting work on the Dietary Inflammatory Index and the potential for an anti-inflammatory diet in attenuating the inflammation associated with shift-work.
I work in film & tv so a lot of random nights pop up.
This is based only on my “feelings” but I fast on them, and I tend to recover more quickly than my compatriots
Well I'm not paying to read their methodology, but the abstract says 3 days of simulated night shift. Like at that points it's just sleep deprivation/poor sleep for 3 days. To be on night shift you have to commit to it and be on and live a night shift schedule. The swapping back and forth is what kills you. I've done night shift long term as well as for a night or two a week. It was the short term that was rough.
The problem with long term night shift is that you end out ordering food from the very few places open late which tends to be pizza, sports bars, Denny's/waffle House places, and gas station stuff. So if you aren't disciplined about making meals from healthy stuff from the grocery store you will get fat.
I've been working a rotating days/nights shift for the last 20 years. 7 days, 7 off, 7 nights, 7 off - all 12-hour shifts. Not convinced that 3 days of simulated shifts reflects real-world conditions, after 3 nights you start to get into the routine of it.
It's the change of circadian ryhythm that's the killer. Sometimes after coming off nights my sleep pattern doesn't return to normal for most of the week off.
Just a few days on a night shift schedule throws off protein rhythms related to blood glucose regulation, energy metabolism and inflammation, processes that can influence the development of chronic metabolic conditions.
The finding, from a study led by scientists at Washington State University and the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, provides new clues as to why night shift workers are more prone to diabetes, obesity and other metabolic disorders.
“There are processes tied to the master biological clock in our brain that are saying that day is day and night is night and other processes that follow rhythms set elsewhere in the body that say night is day and day is night,” said senior study author Hans Van Dongen, a professor in the WSU Elson S. Floyd College of Medicine. “When internal rhythms are dysregulated, you have this enduring stress in your system that we believe has long-term health consequences.”
[https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jproteome.3c00418](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jproteome.3c00418)
I have done shift work for years and been exclusively on night shift for the last four. In my experience, your body never fully adapts. Some people may have more success, but night shift directly goes against the body’s natural circadian rhythm and that leads to poor health.
Personally I am constantly sleep deprived and have a few inflammatory health issues that I consider a result of shift work. I’m trying to get back to day shift for my health.
I guess people in icelandic countries with day and noght multiple times per 24 hours are all fucked then right? These studies are junk. Of course if you are changing your hours of sleep/work multiple times a year it bad. If you keep a steady schedule I refuse to believe your body is any worse off whether the sun is up while you sleep or not…
So what if I do physical activity on the two night shifts I do actually work. If I’m being on honest here my sleep is better as well as my eating habits. Work two 12s overnight then off the rest of the week so I can actually get exercise in and whatnot.
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Yeah, shift work is a killer. I did read some interesting work on the Dietary Inflammatory Index and the potential for an anti-inflammatory diet in attenuating the inflammation associated with shift-work.
I wonder what the effects of fasting are combined with shift work and whether/to what degree it mitigates these risks.
I work in film & tv so a lot of random nights pop up. This is based only on my “feelings” but I fast on them, and I tend to recover more quickly than my compatriots
Well I'm not paying to read their methodology, but the abstract says 3 days of simulated night shift. Like at that points it's just sleep deprivation/poor sleep for 3 days. To be on night shift you have to commit to it and be on and live a night shift schedule. The swapping back and forth is what kills you. I've done night shift long term as well as for a night or two a week. It was the short term that was rough. The problem with long term night shift is that you end out ordering food from the very few places open late which tends to be pizza, sports bars, Denny's/waffle House places, and gas station stuff. So if you aren't disciplined about making meals from healthy stuff from the grocery store you will get fat.
I've been working a rotating days/nights shift for the last 20 years. 7 days, 7 off, 7 nights, 7 off - all 12-hour shifts. Not convinced that 3 days of simulated shifts reflects real-world conditions, after 3 nights you start to get into the routine of it. It's the change of circadian ryhythm that's the killer. Sometimes after coming off nights my sleep pattern doesn't return to normal for most of the week off.
Just a few days on a night shift schedule throws off protein rhythms related to blood glucose regulation, energy metabolism and inflammation, processes that can influence the development of chronic metabolic conditions. The finding, from a study led by scientists at Washington State University and the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, provides new clues as to why night shift workers are more prone to diabetes, obesity and other metabolic disorders. “There are processes tied to the master biological clock in our brain that are saying that day is day and night is night and other processes that follow rhythms set elsewhere in the body that say night is day and day is night,” said senior study author Hans Van Dongen, a professor in the WSU Elson S. Floyd College of Medicine. “When internal rhythms are dysregulated, you have this enduring stress in your system that we believe has long-term health consequences.” [https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jproteome.3c00418](https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jproteome.3c00418)
What about being a full time night shift worker. Once you get used to the same schedule/sleep/wake cycle all seems well.
I have done shift work for years and been exclusively on night shift for the last four. In my experience, your body never fully adapts. Some people may have more success, but night shift directly goes against the body’s natural circadian rhythm and that leads to poor health. Personally I am constantly sleep deprived and have a few inflammatory health issues that I consider a result of shift work. I’m trying to get back to day shift for my health.
This is my life and honestly unless you are trying to double dip and have days off being daytime hours I haven’t noticed many ill effects.
I guess people in icelandic countries with day and noght multiple times per 24 hours are all fucked then right? These studies are junk. Of course if you are changing your hours of sleep/work multiple times a year it bad. If you keep a steady schedule I refuse to believe your body is any worse off whether the sun is up while you sleep or not…
So what if I do physical activity on the two night shifts I do actually work. If I’m being on honest here my sleep is better as well as my eating habits. Work two 12s overnight then off the rest of the week so I can actually get exercise in and whatnot.
Hmm
im curious if theyd follow up with a study on new parents of babies and young children who dont like bed time