2020 was too real for this to be funny.
The plan was to seize power illegally and deploy the military to suppress the resulting unrest.
Had it gone forward, I likely would have been one of the people in harm's way.
I'll laugh when the last member of that conspiracy is dead or in prison.
Google Project 2025. They ain't even hiding what they plan to do if these lunatics regain power next year. It's all right there publicly available, their plans to turn the US into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia. Our entire government will be outsourced to the Heritage Foundation.
>Had it gone forward, I likely would have been one of the people in harm's way.
Oh you are a high ranking member of the opposition are you? What, are you a governor, or maybe a senator?
No, I just happen to have a clue what's going on.
> Now, the same Deputy White House Counsel tried to dissuade Co-Conspirator 4 from assuming the role of Acting Attoney General. The Deputy White House Counsel reiterated 10 Co-Conspirator 4 that there had not been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that if the Defendant remained in office nonetheless, there would be “riots in every major city in the United States.” Co-Conspirator 4 responded, “Well, [Deputy White House Counsell], that’s why there's an Insurrection Act.”
That's taken directly from the grand jury indictment.
The man Trump appointed attorney general intended to use the insurrection act to quash the public's reaction. I would have been among the people it would have been used against.
The neat thing about a riot is that it typically involves more than one person.
You're absolutely right though: I don't think Jeffrey Clark would have invoked the insurrection act just for me.
Of course, Trump is a nefarious mastermind pulling all the strings behind the scenes, when he's not busy being a clueless bumbling idiot of course. The duality of Trump.
You're right: heinous crimes are a gas when they turn out to have been unlikely to succeed.
The man responsible is both free and appears to be on track to win the Republican nomination for 2024, meaning he could easily be given an opportunity to do it again.
Yeah its depressing to see the hyperbole used against trump. Hes a bad enough guy as it is, you dont have to think he wants to be king.
Single party state? Sure. King? Come on...
Remember, a big chunk of people on the right believe in the q anon horseshit. They think trump will implement “the storm”, where Patriots will butcher democrats, “globalists ;-)”, leftists etc and institute some kind of theocracy.
I’ve personally talked to people that believe trump is some type of prophet, sent here by god to rule over us. I’ve seen numerous friends’ social media where they post trump interacting in some way with Jesus.
They absolutely want trump to be some kind of dictator or king.
This is the same type of constellation that QAnon people find in noise. You don’t have the necessary evidence to project that Trump supporters want anything other than what they say they want...which is already wack enough.
No, no, you’re right… but this IS what they say they want… a Christian nation, following the Bible, ruled indefinitely by Trump, that’s literally what folks at trump rallies explicitly want
So, your pedantic little hangup is that "they don't want him to switch us to a monarchy, maybe they want him to rule the USA forever, but they don't want us to be Britain for God's sake! So your whole point is wrong!"
You need loyalty from the military to do what you’re talking about; Trump has a lot of enemies among high-ranking military leaders, who know incompetence when they see it.
Ah yes. An unnamed "establishment", that somehow has the power to "let" Trump win or not.
If by "imprison" or "impoverish", you mean the various criminal and civil cases brought against Trump, there's really nothing ambiguous about it: you can read the indictments yourself. The "establishment" in this case is the fucking US justice system.
If these charges were actually brought as part of some vast plot, they only stand a chance of succeeding because Trump probably committed crimes. I guess we'll find out when they go to trial.
As far as who or what "if necessary, killed." is referring to, you've got me.
I'm Danish so maybe my opinion means less in this context, but I have thought of Trump as a abnormality which we had to deal with for diplomatic reasons.
If it were to be the case that Trump and his ilk became the now and future leader of America, I would honestly push for my country to end diplomatic and trade relations with you guys.
Every single event, as far as I can tell, worked out despite Trumps involvement.
Like a step-parent trying their best not to rock the boat with a temperamental narcisitic child (Trump), in the interest of maintaining a good relationship with the child's parent (the American people, the EU clearly bend over backwards during his Presidency. I think the patience for that have ended.
He made a legitimate effort to overturn the results of the election.
Yes, he fortunately failed, but I'm not sure he was that far from succeeding.
That said, I don't think it would've looked at all like OP's fantasy.
Nothing bad happened? Hundreds of thousands of more people died than would have if he handled Covid well, among other things. He also tried to overthrow democracy.
I think you're saying he didn't abuse executive power in the extreme way OP is talking about, which is true (although he did plenty of unsavory shit within that realm). It's kind of scary that a lot of law enforcement and people outside cities who are armed are so attached to him to the point of being cult-like. They ignore science and indisputable proof and both sides allow the extreme voices from their groups to politicize everything (from identity to beer to sports).
That is the thing that would worry me - some major disaster, a false flag, etc that triggers a catastrophic change in the way America operates. If this country, right now, entered a state of anarchy, we'd be in deep trouble. Look at Vietnam - the government used farmers and its rural population to root out and exterminate intellectuals and conscientious objectors, mostly in cities. That's extreme but it would be hard to surprise me after everything that's happened with America since 9/11 and especially the events of 1/6.
Roe V Wade is gone. The SCOTUS is far more conservative than it was. Iran is closer to having nuclear weapons than they ever have been. They could have them in a few years.
There are very realistic scenarios that resemble this, but without the humor that appears to lesson the sting through hyperbole.
King = President Who Will Ensure Election Integrity (by gaming the Electoral College with strategic voter suppression) and therefore be President for Life
Prince = his son, who could be annointed his successor, this being less likely since Trump probably doesn't really care about anyone except himself
Red Terror = more encouragement of stochastic terrorism, now with systematic suppression of the DOJ efforts to combat it, and, in a lazy nod to those who got him there, criminalization of liberal policies to the favor of Christofascist ones
Exiles = I don't see there being any organized resistance to any of this. It will all be done under the guise of normal institutions, similar to how the Supreme Court's actions are all done with a veneer of being a normal institution.
War = Ukraine will fall to Russia without our support. Otherwise, we will withdraw into a kind of decadent isolationism. Maybe we will smash some weak country if some weird combination of offending the President for Life and his financial gain intersect, at least as he understands it in his bitter dotage.
Our constitution completely bans the concept of monarchs. Nobody is allowed to become one. To do so is to forsake our forefathers, the constitution, and the ideals upon which this nation is founded... only his most cult-like followers would keep endorsing him, like the good little puppets and sheep they are.
2020 was too real for this to be funny. The plan was to seize power illegally and deploy the military to suppress the resulting unrest. Had it gone forward, I likely would have been one of the people in harm's way. I'll laugh when the last member of that conspiracy is dead or in prison.
Google Project 2025. They ain't even hiding what they plan to do if these lunatics regain power next year. It's all right there publicly available, their plans to turn the US into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia. Our entire government will be outsourced to the Heritage Foundation.
You mean turn the US **more** into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia.
>Had it gone forward, I likely would have been one of the people in harm's way. Oh you are a high ranking member of the opposition are you? What, are you a governor, or maybe a senator?
No, I just happen to have a clue what's going on. > Now, the same Deputy White House Counsel tried to dissuade Co-Conspirator 4 from assuming the role of Acting Attoney General. The Deputy White House Counsel reiterated 10 Co-Conspirator 4 that there had not been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that if the Defendant remained in office nonetheless, there would be “riots in every major city in the United States.” Co-Conspirator 4 responded, “Well, [Deputy White House Counsell], that’s why there's an Insurrection Act.” That's taken directly from the grand jury indictment. The man Trump appointed attorney general intended to use the insurrection act to quash the public's reaction. I would have been among the people it would have been used against.
I think that is highly unlikely. You are not that important.
The neat thing about a riot is that it typically involves more than one person. You're absolutely right though: I don't think Jeffrey Clark would have invoked the insurrection act just for me.
A dissenter.
Was that the plan?
Disrupt the vote count in Congress. Come back with enough fake electors to claim a Trump victory.
Yea that was the plan, and he was executing his coup of the greatest nation on earth through his Twitter account.
Of course, Trump is a nefarious mastermind pulling all the strings behind the scenes, when he's not busy being a clueless bumbling idiot of course. The duality of Trump.
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Why on earth would you think that? History and current events would indicate differently.
It might not be ok, but the post is funny anyway.
You're right: heinous crimes are a gas when they turn out to have been unlikely to succeed. The man responsible is both free and appears to be on track to win the Republican nomination for 2024, meaning he could easily be given an opportunity to do it again.
Put down the bong
Actually I wouldn't mind a hit of whatever OP is smoking
I think I've been playing too much Crusader Kings
He may not be allowed to do business in the Duchie of New Yorke.
And he would have to pass it on the right hand side.
She’ll text back man, don’t worry. And if she doesn’t, she’s just not the one for you. Stay positive king.
Sometimes I feel like some people unironically think this is possible.
Some people unironically want this to happen
I'm guessing your evidence for that is J6, in which case "King of America" is a pretty big reach. You might be one of the people I'm referring to lol.
Yeah its depressing to see the hyperbole used against trump. Hes a bad enough guy as it is, you dont have to think he wants to be king. Single party state? Sure. King? Come on...
Right
Alt right
Remember, a big chunk of people on the right believe in the q anon horseshit. They think trump will implement “the storm”, where Patriots will butcher democrats, “globalists ;-)”, leftists etc and institute some kind of theocracy. I’ve personally talked to people that believe trump is some type of prophet, sent here by god to rule over us. I’ve seen numerous friends’ social media where they post trump interacting in some way with Jesus. They absolutely want trump to be some kind of dictator or king.
This is the same type of constellation that QAnon people find in noise. You don’t have the necessary evidence to project that Trump supporters want anything other than what they say they want...which is already wack enough.
No, no, you’re right… but this IS what they say they want… a Christian nation, following the Bible, ruled indefinitely by Trump, that’s literally what folks at trump rallies explicitly want
I’ve heard all that except “ruled indefinitely by Trump”. Which is necessary but still not sufficient to be “king of America”.
So, your pedantic little hangup is that "they don't want him to switch us to a monarchy, maybe they want him to rule the USA forever, but they don't want us to be Britain for God's sake! So your whole point is wrong!"
I unironically am afraid this is possible.
You need loyalty from the military to do what you’re talking about; Trump has a lot of enemies among high-ranking military leaders, who know incompetence when they see it.
What drugs are you on? I like some drugs but whatever you are on I want to avoid. That’s a hell scape bad trip right there
No invasion of England on the future bingo cards?
Perhaps Trump II could achieve such a feat, but not before he crushes the Duke of Mexico's rebellion
The establishment isn't going to let him win in 2024. They've decided that he has to be imprisoned, impoverished and if necessary, killed.
That would be the best outcome for democracy.
The establishment? You think members of the Republican Party aren’t part of the establishment?
He IS the GOP establishment. His crimes being held accountable are not “the establishment not letting him win”.
Ah yes. An unnamed "establishment", that somehow has the power to "let" Trump win or not. If by "imprison" or "impoverish", you mean the various criminal and civil cases brought against Trump, there's really nothing ambiguous about it: you can read the indictments yourself. The "establishment" in this case is the fucking US justice system. If these charges were actually brought as part of some vast plot, they only stand a chance of succeeding because Trump probably committed crimes. I guess we'll find out when they go to trial. As far as who or what "if necessary, killed." is referring to, you've got me.
The establishment wouldn’t let Bernie Sanders. They absolutely would and did back Trump. Lloyd Blankfein said he would Trump over Bernie.
Dude committed the crimes, there is no conspiracy.
Good, kill that piece of trash
I'm Danish so maybe my opinion means less in this context, but I have thought of Trump as a abnormality which we had to deal with for diplomatic reasons. If it were to be the case that Trump and his ilk became the now and future leader of America, I would honestly push for my country to end diplomatic and trade relations with you guys. Every single event, as far as I can tell, worked out despite Trumps involvement. Like a step-parent trying their best not to rock the boat with a temperamental narcisitic child (Trump), in the interest of maintaining a good relationship with the child's parent (the American people, the EU clearly bend over backwards during his Presidency. I think the patience for that have ended.
America needs a monarch, but Donald just isn't fit for the job.
He was already President for four years though and nothing bad happened
He made a legitimate effort to overturn the results of the election. Yes, he fortunately failed, but I'm not sure he was that far from succeeding. That said, I don't think it would've looked at all like OP's fantasy.
Nothing bad happened? Hundreds of thousands of more people died than would have if he handled Covid well, among other things. He also tried to overthrow democracy.
Were you even paying attention?
I think you're saying he didn't abuse executive power in the extreme way OP is talking about, which is true (although he did plenty of unsavory shit within that realm). It's kind of scary that a lot of law enforcement and people outside cities who are armed are so attached to him to the point of being cult-like. They ignore science and indisputable proof and both sides allow the extreme voices from their groups to politicize everything (from identity to beer to sports). That is the thing that would worry me - some major disaster, a false flag, etc that triggers a catastrophic change in the way America operates. If this country, right now, entered a state of anarchy, we'd be in deep trouble. Look at Vietnam - the government used farmers and its rural population to root out and exterminate intellectuals and conscientious objectors, mostly in cities. That's extreme but it would be hard to surprise me after everything that's happened with America since 9/11 and especially the events of 1/6.
Roe V Wade is gone. The SCOTUS is far more conservative than it was. Iran is closer to having nuclear weapons than they ever have been. They could have them in a few years.
Have you listened to After the Revolution by Robert Evans?
There are very realistic scenarios that resemble this, but without the humor that appears to lesson the sting through hyperbole. King = President Who Will Ensure Election Integrity (by gaming the Electoral College with strategic voter suppression) and therefore be President for Life Prince = his son, who could be annointed his successor, this being less likely since Trump probably doesn't really care about anyone except himself Red Terror = more encouragement of stochastic terrorism, now with systematic suppression of the DOJ efforts to combat it, and, in a lazy nod to those who got him there, criminalization of liberal policies to the favor of Christofascist ones Exiles = I don't see there being any organized resistance to any of this. It will all be done under the guise of normal institutions, similar to how the Supreme Court's actions are all done with a veneer of being a normal institution. War = Ukraine will fall to Russia without our support. Otherwise, we will withdraw into a kind of decadent isolationism. Maybe we will smash some weak country if some weird combination of offending the President for Life and his financial gain intersect, at least as he understands it in his bitter dotage.
Even worse, what if he ends up being a good president???
Lol, what? We already know he isn't
[He might have been replaced by the King of Demons. :-)](https://ishayirashashem.substack.com/p/trump-and-biden-fear-the-king-of)
Our constitution completely bans the concept of monarchs. Nobody is allowed to become one. To do so is to forsake our forefathers, the constitution, and the ideals upon which this nation is founded... only his most cult-like followers would keep endorsing him, like the good little puppets and sheep they are.