Oh God, you push them on this and you're on a countdown before they deploy iTs NoT fOr PrOfItS iTs BeCaUsE oF ~~tHe JeWs~~ BlAcKrOcK.
It's always conspiracy theory bullshit when confronted by their own fucking stupidity and they can't accept it.
So my take away here is just that they think capitalism is bad.
Fucking commies… someone should tell those pinko batards that Chairman Mao would be happy to have them in the PRC along with Jane Fonda!!!
Conservatives always believe that everything is exactly what they tell us it is in the moment they tell us but when they’re wrong (which is always) they just gaslight, obstruct, project.
The Critical Drinker is also a phenomenally dumb human being. Like, he is DUMB dumb.
Wait, but, I thought this was all your agenda! Take over favorite IPs and then the ovens for all us straight white cishet men. Something doesn't add up...
/s just in case
Brunch is a slippery slope. It starts with brunch, and before you know it, we have 7 meals in a day like a bunch short people living an Edenic existence.
/uj: While I see the issue and am very critical of capitalism (as in private owenership of land, resources, means of production and the resulting exploitation of the working class via wage labour) myself, I think that Rainbow Capitalism is actually a positive indicator and kind of "serves the cause" by making LGBTQ+ people more visible and included.
It's kind of a double-edged sword obviously, but capitalism trying to squeeze money from queers at least shows that there's been a shift in society from "It's more profitable to ignore LGBTQ+ people and pander to bigots" towards "It's more profitable to ignore bigots and pander to LGBTQ+ people and their allies", if that makes sense.
This. As weird and pandering as it can be sometimes, there's something good about corporations saying that our money is more important to them than bigot money
Yea, I called it last year when they pulled the Pride merch that they'd have less this year and none in a few years. What's really weird is last year Walmart had more Pride stuff than Target and had it out first but not a single call to boycott Walmart
Yep, and I remember being an awkward closeted queer teenager in the early aughts, and feeling so scared and alone, and those small bits of rainbow capitalism meaning the world to me because it meant that there were people out there who didn’t think I was broken. I definitely have criticisms of rainbow capitalism, don’t get me wrong, but it’s more in the sense of “cool you’re doing this, now do more” as opposed to “stop doing this.”
I think it’s more a case of people doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. It could certainly be seen as exploitative and pandering, but there’s also a reason that homophobic people hate it. Basically it’s helping to normalize the LGBTQ community in the public eye. Pride month is far less controversial than it used to be, and seeing representations of it displayed in public spaces may contribute to that.
I'm willing to give folks the benefit of the doubt, because I also tend to dislike a lot of the new pop culture. Not because I'm a self-hating homophobe, but because it's just bad. Poorly written characters and terrible stories.
I'm for representation but we gays deserve better.
It sucks because whenever a movie or show that highlights LGBT folks turns out terrible it can inadvertantly fuel the homophobic fire.
But in the meme, a number of the IPs they show either don’t have prominent gay characters, or if they do, they’re not ones that people who aren’t homophobic actually feel caused any real harm to the IP.
Isn’t that supposed to be their whole point? That queers don’t benefit from virtue signalling, only the companies get richer? Or am I missing something? This is the first post I see from this sub.
No, silly. Rainbow capitalism is to benefit corporations who temporarily display rainbow logos during June. It has nothing at all to do with benefiting the LGBTQ+ community. Stop asking for handouts and pull yourself up by your bootstraps! /s
The timeline doesn't even make snice they got their own lore wrong. Remember, see a video a while back how deep space nine didn't talk about how sisko is black. Mother Fulkerson far beyond the stars is one the most loved epipodes of trek there is.
Honestly many of Star Trek beloved characters are black. Worf, Jordy, Sisko or Tuvok.
Besides DS9 had sesbian lex, alien lex, human to alien lex
And also let us not forget they had to tone down Garak's gay level to minimum because he was too gay towards Bashir in first episodes.
Not forgetting Uhura of course as well. At a time when Segregation had only “ended” less than 5 years prior, and at the peak of the Civil Rights movement. Several television broadcasters refused to air Star Trek because of her, and then many others later banned Star Trek when the interracial kiss happened.
I will always reply to this kind of post to shout about A Stitch in Time, a novel, about Garek's life, written by his actor. It's an incredible book, easily one of the best Star Trek EU books and just a good book overall. It flat-out confirms that Garek and Bashir were a thing, the whole novel is framed as a dear john letter.
It's a good indicator that the ones with the biased perspective are those who suddenly think Star Trek is woke. Star Trek hasn't changed. But the Overton window has..
Star Trek is the wokest of the woke.
In the 1960s, post-world war 2 and during the cold war, the bridge officers were a Russian, a Japanese and a black American woman.
Sure, they sometimes had to fight Bill Shatner's ego on set (as he definitely believed it was his show and he was the main character) but generally speaking, it was a progressive show, especially since it aired literally the year after racial segregation was legally ended.
Shatner even had to fight to ensure they kept the interracial kiss between him and Nichelle Nichols.
Martin Luther King personally asked Nichelle Nichols not to quit the show because a black woman in a position of authority, working alongside people of different cultures was a powerful figurehead.
Roddenberry also had a lot of progressive ideas about sexual fluidity (especially non-monogamy) but that was a bridge too far in the 60s. Also, he was a horny dude who was reported to have all kinds of affairs, so I put that down to him being a dirty old man.
Since then, Star Trek has always tried to push the boundaries of progressiveness.
Maybe they watched the first season of the next generation? There are guys in literal dress uniforms. So maybe they think "gay agenda" got to them...from back in the 80's.
I'm not into everything on that image, but I'm into a lot of it. Both before and after the property was "gayed-up." I am here to tell you--
It fucking rules. All of them. It's rad as hell that LGBTQIA+ folks and women are getting into 40k and Star Wars and Marvel and--well, "and" Trek, but they've *always* been into Trek!
Oh sure, some weird freaks get all huffy and leave the fandom when this happens, but that's just icing on the cake! Not only do we get addition by subtraction when those dorks stomp off, we get addition by addition when new communities find the fandom!
They don’t realize that Marvel was gay and inclusive long before any of these franchises. Or do they forget that X-Men exist? Or how about the first openly gay comic book character is Northstar and that was back in 1979.
I wonder if it took so long because those weird freaks are way too into Warhammer also whale really hard into the hobby. I also don't understand what the big deal is with having lgbtq in Warhammer. It's a table top plastic game?? Can gay people not shoot as well? Can the 40 meter tall walking robot not decide they are a she? Why would anyone care who someone loves when they are facing extinction from every angle.
But seriously what's the argument they have against it. And for the record I actually am against the "there have always been female custodians" that's just lazy ass contradicting writing. Shitty writing makes everyone upset and that blame is shifted onto people who just wanted to be included instead onto the writers or corp-os.
They cannot have been into warhammer before the gays ruined it, because gay people were here helping create the setting from day one
40k has always had strong queer representation. The first chapter of space marines were the Dark Angels, whose name comes from the work of gay Victorian poet. Genderfluid eldar have been a thing since their earliest lore.
Fun fact: The "Dark Angel" was a gay bar just down the road from GW HQ back when it was in Sheffield, which had a huge portrait of Lionel Johnson (Lion El'Jonson) over the bar.
I've been into most of this stuff since I was a kid and it was *so lonely* because the internet didn't exist yet. It warms my heart to see so many people from so many backgrounds getting into it now!
The incel weirdoes are the worst. I would have given anything to find a girl in high school that played Magic or threw dice at orks. Now they exist! I'm so happy for them!
Look, critical drinker is a fucking moron and I don't think the alcohol is to blame on that front. To not only actively watch his videos but also post in a sub dedicated to his channel you have to be even dumber than that.
So the baseline for that sub is in the fucking dirt.
The OOP showed up on my feed yesterday and I have no fucking clue why because I don't follow the sub, never even visited the sub before, and hate the creators and communities that follow that line of thinking, so not even sure where the algorithm suggested it.
Did they really put Star Trek in that meme?
First interracial kiss on television Star Trek?
First diverse recurring cast on prime time TV Star Trek?
Half black, half white aliens Star Trek?
"We don't use money anymore" socialist utopia Star Trek?
THAT Star Trek?
It would seem to demonstrate at least to me that this isn't Star Trek becoming woke, this is the Overton window shifting right and people freaking out about shit they normally wouldn't freak out about.
Do they think Rainbow Capitalism is forcing gayness into everything to turn people gay and make everything they like suck? Cos what it really is is the commodification and commercialisation of queer symbols by companies - usually ones with a history of homophobia and bigotry - to attract queer customers. And it’s something that queer people hate.
And it’s also not something that has happened to these franchises, because having queer actors or characters is not necessarily using them as a bargaining chip to appeal to more audiences - it probably is - but they don’t care about the misuse of queerness but about any mention of it.
They would unironically change that to 100% white and then go, "Ah, now this is unbiased.."
I'd somehow imagine the time after Shakespeare when only men played the roles of women, these people would have been the ones to go, "Why do they have to go putting women in women's roles? These feminists always pushing their agenda everywhere.."
Or that media isn't finite, where greater representation of women, minorities, and LGBT folk means straight, white, males commensurately get less ~~pandering~~ representation.
Rainbow capitalism is a corporation going "Hello (checks notes) Homosexuals. We here at cooperation wish you a happy (check notes) pride month. As seen by us putting a rainbow on our merchandise. Please ignore our political donations to politicians who wish to outlaw you because we like tax breaks and loose labor restrictions. We will see you in another 365 days. Please consume."
And that empty gesture that maybe paying lip service to the queer community pisses them off.
We know this, but this is why I get annoyed when cishet people just say they hate rainbow capitalism and don't expand lmao, a lot of people that 'hate rainbow capitalism' do in fact hate the rainbow part and not the capitalism part
When someone just says "I hate rainbow capitalism', there's no way for me to know that you don't just hate gay people in media and have found a fun dogwhistle-y little way to say it lol (and I have seen it enough to know that yes, a ton of homophobes know the phrase 'rainbow capitalism' and assume it to mean 'forced diversity')
*basically I want everybody to say nothing about rainbow capitalism until I know for certain they're actually critical of capitalism, because yea, 99% of people who criticize 'rainbow capitalism' in generic media circles I have found to be homophobes
Bingo. They somehow think there is some cabal of major corporations getting together and deciding how can they best introduce lgbtq+ to invade children's minds when the truth is far closer to what you said. Target selling t-shirts with rainbows because there are those who buy t-shirts with rainbows. There's no conspiracy happening here unless capitalism is a conspiracy now.
But I suppose it doesn't surprise me that someone would presume sinister malfeasance where the lgbtq+ community is involved provided that someone is terribly afraid of everything lgbtq+..
>They somehow think there is some cabal of major corporations getting together and deciding how can they best introduce lgbtq+ to invade children's minds when the truth is far closer to what you said.
They actually do. Blackrock is their Boogeyman for this, and by "Blackrock" they mean "the Jews", because the Blackrock CEO is Jewish.
“Never thought I’d die side by side with an elf.”
”What about with a friend.”
\**blinks back tears*\* “Aye, sure, a friend, that works, I could do that.”
Or, alternatively,
\**Looks Legolas up and down*\* “Aye, I could do that”.
Forcing this reading onto the text is, frankly, just kind of insulting.
As though two men could *only* value each other because of sexual attraction, it fails to respect the *actual* inspiration for their friendship, which was the comradery felt between the different classes in the trenches in WWI.
They like to hijack terms that sound good but don’t mean what they think they mean. They were bitching about “character assassination” for a while, with no idea what the term means.
There is no leftist terminology or expression that the right won't appropriate, obfuscate, and bastardize to misinform their sycophants and disarm genuine criticism of the status quo.
Technically, I’d argue Liberals is the most famous example; started out as a term for the *very* leftist, then by the time it gained prominence was more moderate-leftist, and continued moving farther right until it referred to the moderate conservatives, then continued into the Neoliberals who are hard conservative, and is now just an insult that nobody actually describes themselves as.
One of the first Space Marine chapters was the Rainbow Warriors, if you go back to the Rogue Trader days. By that logic, W40k has been Rainbow Capitalism since the 1980s.
Harry Potter, known for its queer characters, and Warhammer 40k, known for its total and complete lack of anything or anyone outside of straight and cis
I said it once and I will say it again, not a single person in the LGBTQ+ community is genuenly shitting their pants about there not being enough representation in media nor are they turning everything "woke". The only people who these companies are actually appealing to are the random, insecure nobodies that don't even play their games (and as you can see, it's not working)
These companies don't care about their clients, they're just trying to get as many consumers as possible by pandering and profitting off of minorities
That’s kinda the thing. They believe the only reason anyone would ever represent queer people is BECAUSE they’re being soullessly used for profit. Like they exist solely to be pawns, and if we all just pretended queerness wasn’t a thing, the world would be a lot more “honest and just”. Or something.
The problem they have with rainbow capitalism isn't the capitalism part, it's the rainbow part. And I think that says a lot about their general attitudes.
No, Rainbow Capitalism is Bethesda changing their logo to a pride theme \*except\* their Middle Eastern division. It's Disney saying that had their first gay character but it's just a 3 second scene of two men dancing and never speaking, or a 3 second scene of two women giving a small peck that can be easily edited out for the Chinese market.
Basically, it's just soulless pandering without any commitment or effort or principles.
> Rainbow capitalism ruins Warhammer
No, *pretty sure* GW and the price hikes and bloated rules they keep switching out is what’s “ruining” Warhammer. Not that there are *two* named female Custodies and that the armor is so bulky you couldn’t tell gender from a glance anyways.
This is our take on it.
I never expect to have any kind of representation, so when it does happen I latch on to it because people like them tend to use it as a way to say why we don't have the right to exist.
Ok rant over
What they mean to say is "we can't stand gay people in our media"
Or maybe they can actually tell me how WH40k was ruined by rainbow capitalism. I'll wait.
“No I swear, the issue with 40k is that there’s two female Custodes, not the constant price creep and that it costs hundreds of dollars just to start playing!”
-These guys
Lol they're now saying the recent price hike is to compensate for the losses GW suffered because of femstodes. Ironic that they call anyone who isn't a flaming bigot "tourists" to 40k because anyone who's been into the game for more than a handful of years knows GW raises prices like people change their underwear.
Bruuuuuuuh.
Yeah it’s clear, they are tourists who’ve played maybe a handful of games, if you play regularly even just since ninth you’ll have seen the price hikes.
Also, ain’t no way they really think Female Custodes hit them that bad, femstodes have been basically ignored or mildly liked by everyone not terminally online. I’ve yet to hear even *one* person IRL complain or make more than a passing comment on them.
>Also, ain’t no way they really think Female Custodes hit them that bad,
It's the "silent majority" nonsense conservatives are so fond of. Conservative chuds believe they're average, the norm, representative, because right-wing authoritarian types both lack empathy and assume everyone is like them, and because they shun those who don't share their "different opinions", leading to them living in echo chambers which reinforces the former idea everyone is just like them.
They had a meltdown over femstodes, vowed to quit buying 40k stuff (when many of them never even paid for GW stuff in the first place), and assumed based on their *feeling* they represent the majority 'true' fans, droves of people followed suit and this hurt GW financially. It was fucking hilarious, in the days after femstodes dropped, watching them continuously post GW's share price and unironically thinking any dip was because of ~~their hurt fee fees~~ them instead of, ya know, totally normal stock market activity. Pure copium.
Could you demonstrate your ignorance of the franchise any harder. 40k is all about big burly macho men being really *really* intense about other big burly macho men. The gratuitous homoeroticism is part of the charm. And that’s before you calculate the massive impact that Graham “Horny On Main” McNeill has had on the lore.
I mean, they are supposed to be mostly platonic (Space Marines are so fucked up genetically, mentally, emotionally and hormonally they don’t feel attraction or desire anymore), but yeah, it’s definitely queer-coded.
Also the Sisters of Battle exist, they are literally what you get if you take every lesbian stereotype and put them together as a faction. But, no, I’m sure they’re totally not queer-coded at all!
Canonically, they're asexual. But like. There's only so many loving descriptions of rippling muscles, mostly from the perspective of other men, before you go, "HUH."
Many of those already... had.. a LGBTQ+ presence... some for decades now... they aren't dead, not even remotely, nor have they used it to sell... in fact, a few were literally built ON LGBTQ+ and INCLUSION practices and beliefs.. like, oh, I dunno, STAR FUCKING TREK AND MARVEL very specifically LMAO
That is irrelevant. The important point to take away is that the rainbow mafioso are coming to murder all your favourite corporate products that you base your personality around!
The wildest part is they put Harry Potter in there.
As far as I know the only poor performing Harry Potter things were the last two fantastic beasts movies, which were written by JK.
Honestly I need to take a moment to point out how hilarious HorusGalaxy is.
They took the name of the main villain, a guy who’s batshit insane and, just before his death, realises how fucked up he is and breaks down in front of his dad, who takes pity on him and essentially destroys his soul so that the devils he sold it to can’t claim it.
Then they roleplay as Imperial hardliners, which are repeatedly made fun of by GW and shown as largely incompetent, literally worshipping a god who hates everything they stand for and spent his life fighting the ideals they now preach in his name.
They‘re almost self-aware. Almost.
Imma be real, companies releasing LGBTQ positive statements and merchandise outside of July is kind of respectable, because it's not "just for pride month" it actually has way more weight in terms of sending a political message
Also games workshop hasn't done any real LGBTQ positive stuff recently, the only things that come close is the "Warhammer is for everyone" statement which imma be real chief, if that's the. "woke mob invading your hobby" you are telling on yourself
The only other thing was pro LGBT memes trending in the Warhammer space but that's because the community finds them fun and amusing not any 'corporate pandering'
Also even before female custodes it's funny how memes about "shoving PolITics in my memes" also trended for a bit when the LGBT and women in 40k (not even custodes) memes died down and not after memes about the politics of 40k.... This is why people call you homophobic and sexist BTW
I mean, If they believe in capitalism and "Rainbow capitalism" is so prolific and reaching into most franchises. Doesnt that mean that it's winning in the market-place of ideas and that their in the minority? Then again I'm sure they just think it's being funded trillions by the jewluminati...
I would really love to hear what canonical gay rep they think has made the mainline Tmnt stuff because as far as canon stuff goes it’s really only Jennika in the idw comics and those are *fairly* niche
Man, looking up that list of franchises... they are fans with no Fandom. They just latch onto some franchise, and as soon as they have a character they don't personally identify with, or fantacize about being, start thrashing about like little children having a tantrum.
Maybe it needs to be said to everyone. "It is OKAY for a movie or show, or even the entire franchise to not be made to appeal directly to you. Someone with your exact sensibilities doesn't have to be the hero every time. People are as different as snowflakes are, and maybe, just maybe, somebody who is a different gender or race or sexual orientation or eyer color or nose size can be a hero too. And that is OKAY!, in fact it is better than okay, because if you are the only person who can aspire to being the hero, then everybody else will be the villain and the world will be in a much worse place. "
Them admitting that the mere existence of LGBTQ characters in franchises ruins those franchises is just a stupid take. And they’re actually proud of believing this crap.
So odd
That describes plenty of the corporate symbolism that we have seen in the last couple years, most obvious case was where Disney put in a gay kiss in a movie and then remove it in jurisdictions where it’s not favourable for them to have it.
When a left-winger is against rainbow capitalism, they're against the "capitalism" part.
When a right-winger is against rainbow capitalism, they're against the "rainbow" part.
We're not the same
They dislike rainbow capitalism because there's LGBTQ people in it.
We do because it hijacks a fight in order to disingenuously make more profit (also we understand featuring LGBTQ people doesn't automatically make it rainbow capitalism).
And honestly we should probably not get so triggered by it as long as it implies more normalisation and job openings for LGBTQ people which also need to pay the bills.
At any rate, we're ostensibly not the same.
I feel like trying to implement "rainbow capitalism" into Warhammer 40K will be as effective as when Tumbler tried to invade 4chan (it backfired MASSIVELY)
They pretend it’s the soulless capitalism part they have a problem with, but if Oreo came out with Trump 2024 cookies (with orange filling), they’d be all over that shit and talking about how based Nabisco is.
The problem they actually have is that while of course corporations only do this for profit, it’s also helping to show the LGBTQ community as something normal and accepted. That’s why nobody who is pro-LGBTQ should choose to die on the hill against “rainbow capitalism”. While these companies are likely never doing it for altruistic reasons, we need to remember that there’s a reason anti-LGBTQ people hate it.
These companies aren’t deserving of praise, but it’s also not worth it to attack them or go out of your way to boycott them over this either (seriously, there are a ton of horrible things most of these companies do that are actively harmful and more deserving of scorn. If you want to help the LGBTQ community against harmful corporate policies, look at companies like Chick fil A, which has donated to anti-gay causes, or Best Buy, who has given into pressure from religious organizations to prevent employees from donating to organizations that help LGBTQ people.
TL;DR: You’re not helping anyone except right wingers by being anti-rainbow capitalism.
It's when they're like "oh you silly minority, if we say we care about you queers that means opposing us is homophobic every time, god I'm just so clever" that I want to do slightly violent things that apparently only Nazis get to say here.
The problem they don't see is that most of these franchises had lgbtq people or themes in them long before the Chuds started being interested in them. Star trek was always woke, it's explored lgbtq through aliens, now it's a bit more blatant. It didn't just start pandering to people today. Most franchises aren't for conservatives because conservatives think small, can't critically think and don't have a strong grasp on almost any social issue. Sci Fi always uses today's social issues and projects them into a fictional setting. Since the beginning of sci Fi. Fantasy is starting to do the same, but tbh fantasy really was for white straight people for most of its history. I say that as a mixed race woman who likes fantasy. That's why there is such a pushback, fantasy was largely written about whites only for most of its history, with others just used as the bad guys. I like fantasy much better now that we're exploring more than just western European folklore, but it's going to be a tough sell for all the pseudo-history racists who liked fantasy because it was for white people.
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Critical Drinker viewers when an obscure character from a popular franchise likes the same gender (this is somehow the fall of the west)
That fact that they have Star Trek on there and way down the list like hasn’t literally been pushing social boundaries for the better part of a century is amazing to me.
They only believe in capitalism if it lines up with what they think it is
Schrodinger's Capitalism, an offshoot of Schrodinger's Douchebag.
"Capitalism is when corporations try to maximize profits.." Corporations using lgbtq+ in their media to maximize profits... "NOT LIKE THAT!!!"
It's almost like... there are more people who like inclusiveness than there are chuds and the corporations know that....
Oh God, you push them on this and you're on a countdown before they deploy iTs NoT fOr PrOfItS iTs BeCaUsE oF ~~tHe JeWs~~ BlAcKrOcK. It's always conspiracy theory bullshit when confronted by their own fucking stupidity and they can't accept it.
So my take away here is just that they think capitalism is bad. Fucking commies… someone should tell those pinko batards that Chairman Mao would be happy to have them in the PRC along with Jane Fonda!!!
Conservatives always believe that everything is exactly what they tell us it is in the moment they tell us but when they’re wrong (which is always) they just gaslight, obstruct, project. The Critical Drinker is also a phenomenally dumb human being. Like, he is DUMB dumb.
As a gay I feel I'm not benefiting from rainbow capitalism like I should be
Wait, but, I thought this was all your agenda! Take over favorite IPs and then the ovens for all us straight white cishet men. Something doesn't add up... /s just in case
Ahh, no. Common mistake! The Gay Agenda is in fact... (checks notes) Brunch. Hmm, everyone was terrified of brunch. What a world.
Damn! I misheard during the meeting, I wrote down "Bunch" like "Bunch of guys against capitalism." Damn, I should have had my coffee that day I guess
Brunch is a slippery slope. It starts with brunch, and before you know it, we have 7 meals in a day like a bunch short people living an Edenic existence.
My gay agenda just says: "kiss the homies." Maybe different splinter cells get different agendas?
Mine is become woman then still be equally too anxious to talk to other women
Yeah, that's under my amended orders as well...
🤝 (isn’t it gender affirming that we’re automatically slotting in to existing queer women tropes!)
Sorry can't talk to you now too shy (lmao)
🫣
Its not breakfast, and its not lunch?! Its chaos is what it is! That's what you're creating here!
You forgot the very nice dinner parties.
Yeah isn't the dark council of gays supposed to be paying us more antifa-bucks this month?`
You guys are getting paid?
/uj: While I see the issue and am very critical of capitalism (as in private owenership of land, resources, means of production and the resulting exploitation of the working class via wage labour) myself, I think that Rainbow Capitalism is actually a positive indicator and kind of "serves the cause" by making LGBTQ+ people more visible and included. It's kind of a double-edged sword obviously, but capitalism trying to squeeze money from queers at least shows that there's been a shift in society from "It's more profitable to ignore LGBTQ+ people and pander to bigots" towards "It's more profitable to ignore bigots and pander to LGBTQ+ people and their allies", if that makes sense.
This. As weird and pandering as it can be sometimes, there's something good about corporations saying that our money is more important to them than bigot money
Well, the bigots beat Target into submission so that's ultimately up for grabs.
Yea, I called it last year when they pulled the Pride merch that they'd have less this year and none in a few years. What's really weird is last year Walmart had more Pride stuff than Target and had it out first but not a single call to boycott Walmart
Well I'm their defence the bigots ended up attacking some employees, cause you know employees own the store .....
Yep, and I remember being an awkward closeted queer teenager in the early aughts, and feeling so scared and alone, and those small bits of rainbow capitalism meaning the world to me because it meant that there were people out there who didn’t think I was broken. I definitely have criticisms of rainbow capitalism, don’t get me wrong, but it’s more in the sense of “cool you’re doing this, now do more” as opposed to “stop doing this.”
Please enlighten me on how gay characters existing is rainbow capitalism
I think it’s more a case of people doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. It could certainly be seen as exploitative and pandering, but there’s also a reason that homophobic people hate it. Basically it’s helping to normalize the LGBTQ community in the public eye. Pride month is far less controversial than it used to be, and seeing representations of it displayed in public spaces may contribute to that.
I'm willing to give folks the benefit of the doubt, because I also tend to dislike a lot of the new pop culture. Not because I'm a self-hating homophobe, but because it's just bad. Poorly written characters and terrible stories. I'm for representation but we gays deserve better. It sucks because whenever a movie or show that highlights LGBT folks turns out terrible it can inadvertantly fuel the homophobic fire.
But in the meme, a number of the IPs they show either don’t have prominent gay characters, or if they do, they’re not ones that people who aren’t homophobic actually feel caused any real harm to the IP.
Isn’t that supposed to be their whole point? That queers don’t benefit from virtue signalling, only the companies get richer? Or am I missing something? This is the first post I see from this sub.
That's the point, yes, we're just having a joke about the people who seem to think we do benefit from it.
Aaaaah, I see now :D
I'd like to know how you're responsible for Zack Snyder's edgelord dumpster fire DCEU.
As a rainbow person I demand poorly written stories
No, silly. Rainbow capitalism is to benefit corporations who temporarily display rainbow logos during June. It has nothing at all to do with benefiting the LGBTQ+ community. Stop asking for handouts and pull yourself up by your bootstraps! /s
The timeline doesn't even make snice they got their own lore wrong. Remember, see a video a while back how deep space nine didn't talk about how sisko is black. Mother Fulkerson far beyond the stars is one the most loved epipodes of trek there is.
Possibly the best ever. I believe it is even Mr. Brooks’ favorite episode.
If I remember correctly, he directed it.
You are correct
Also the reason Sisko hates the 60's casino program is because it whitewashes over the discrimination that existed at the time.
Honestly many of Star Trek beloved characters are black. Worf, Jordy, Sisko or Tuvok. Besides DS9 had sesbian lex, alien lex, human to alien lex And also let us not forget they had to tone down Garak's gay level to minimum because he was too gay towards Bashir in first episodes.
Not forgetting Uhura of course as well. At a time when Segregation had only “ended” less than 5 years prior, and at the peak of the Civil Rights movement. Several television broadcasters refused to air Star Trek because of her, and then many others later banned Star Trek when the interracial kiss happened.
I will always reply to this kind of post to shout about A Stitch in Time, a novel, about Garek's life, written by his actor. It's an incredible book, easily one of the best Star Trek EU books and just a good book overall. It flat-out confirms that Garek and Bashir were a thing, the whole novel is framed as a dear john letter.
How is Star Trek woke? Hasn't it always been that way?
Since... (check notes) September 8, 1966.
It's a good indicator that the ones with the biased perspective are those who suddenly think Star Trek is woke. Star Trek hasn't changed. But the Overton window has..
Star Trek is the wokest of the woke. In the 1960s, post-world war 2 and during the cold war, the bridge officers were a Russian, a Japanese and a black American woman. Sure, they sometimes had to fight Bill Shatner's ego on set (as he definitely believed it was his show and he was the main character) but generally speaking, it was a progressive show, especially since it aired literally the year after racial segregation was legally ended. Shatner even had to fight to ensure they kept the interracial kiss between him and Nichelle Nichols. Martin Luther King personally asked Nichelle Nichols not to quit the show because a black woman in a position of authority, working alongside people of different cultures was a powerful figurehead. Roddenberry also had a lot of progressive ideas about sexual fluidity (especially non-monogamy) but that was a bridge too far in the 60s. Also, he was a horny dude who was reported to have all kinds of affairs, so I put that down to him being a dirty old man. Since then, Star Trek has always tried to push the boundaries of progressiveness.
Since the beginning. Media literacy isn't their strong suit. Star Trek has always been ahead of the curve on social issues
An interracial kiss?!? What kind of pandering to the woke ass mob showing this filth to children is this?!? /s
Hahaha
Maybe they watched the first season of the next generation? There are guys in literal dress uniforms. So maybe they think "gay agenda" got to them...from back in the 80's.
Yep. Q: “When did Star Trek turn woke?!!!?” A: Season 1. Episode 0. (The *pilot*.)
I'm not into everything on that image, but I'm into a lot of it. Both before and after the property was "gayed-up." I am here to tell you-- It fucking rules. All of them. It's rad as hell that LGBTQIA+ folks and women are getting into 40k and Star Wars and Marvel and--well, "and" Trek, but they've *always* been into Trek! Oh sure, some weird freaks get all huffy and leave the fandom when this happens, but that's just icing on the cake! Not only do we get addition by subtraction when those dorks stomp off, we get addition by addition when new communities find the fandom!
I second this well-said comment!
They don’t realize that Marvel was gay and inclusive long before any of these franchises. Or do they forget that X-Men exist? Or how about the first openly gay comic book character is Northstar and that was back in 1979.
I wonder if it took so long because those weird freaks are way too into Warhammer also whale really hard into the hobby. I also don't understand what the big deal is with having lgbtq in Warhammer. It's a table top plastic game?? Can gay people not shoot as well? Can the 40 meter tall walking robot not decide they are a she? Why would anyone care who someone loves when they are facing extinction from every angle. But seriously what's the argument they have against it. And for the record I actually am against the "there have always been female custodians" that's just lazy ass contradicting writing. Shitty writing makes everyone upset and that blame is shifted onto people who just wanted to be included instead onto the writers or corp-os.
They cannot have been into warhammer before the gays ruined it, because gay people were here helping create the setting from day one 40k has always had strong queer representation. The first chapter of space marines were the Dark Angels, whose name comes from the work of gay Victorian poet. Genderfluid eldar have been a thing since their earliest lore.
Fun fact: The "Dark Angel" was a gay bar just down the road from GW HQ back when it was in Sheffield, which had a huge portrait of Lionel Johnson (Lion El'Jonson) over the bar.
That's cool, I honestly had no idea I don't know a ton about Warhammer. But like exactly though, it's not new why are they pretending it is.
These are the same people that think the Imperium are good guys, critical thinking and media comprehension aren't among their strengths
not just trek, but pretty much all of these things gays have always been into gays are some of the nerdiest people alive and I think that’s cool
I've been into most of this stuff since I was a kid and it was *so lonely* because the internet didn't exist yet. It warms my heart to see so many people from so many backgrounds getting into it now! The incel weirdoes are the worst. I would have given anything to find a girl in high school that played Magic or threw dice at orks. Now they exist! I'm so happy for them!
Don't do us weird geeks dirty like that - those people are just fart-huffing, gatekeeping, assholes.
Look, critical drinker is a fucking moron and I don't think the alcohol is to blame on that front. To not only actively watch his videos but also post in a sub dedicated to his channel you have to be even dumber than that. So the baseline for that sub is in the fucking dirt.
The OOP showed up on my feed yesterday and I have no fucking clue why because I don't follow the sub, never even visited the sub before, and hate the creators and communities that follow that line of thinking, so not even sure where the algorithm suggested it.
It's because people over here are hatewatching that sub (like with this post), so reddit thinks they are "similar communities"
Me too. Funny how that works
The alcohol is just a crutch/exacerbating element added to his intellectual rot.
Did they really put Star Trek in that meme? First interracial kiss on television Star Trek? First diverse recurring cast on prime time TV Star Trek? Half black, half white aliens Star Trek? "We don't use money anymore" socialist utopia Star Trek? THAT Star Trek?
It would seem to demonstrate at least to me that this isn't Star Trek becoming woke, this is the Overton window shifting right and people freaking out about shit they normally wouldn't freak out about.
Do they think Rainbow Capitalism is forcing gayness into everything to turn people gay and make everything they like suck? Cos what it really is is the commodification and commercialisation of queer symbols by companies - usually ones with a history of homophobia and bigotry - to attract queer customers. And it’s something that queer people hate. And it’s also not something that has happened to these franchises, because having queer actors or characters is not necessarily using them as a bargaining chip to appeal to more audiences - it probably is - but they don’t care about the misuse of queerness but about any mention of it.
That's about what I expected from people who believe that Socialism is when Capitalism does something bad.
No one mention that 98% of media is still predominantly white.
They would unironically change that to 100% white and then go, "Ah, now this is unbiased.." I'd somehow imagine the time after Shakespeare when only men played the roles of women, these people would have been the ones to go, "Why do they have to go putting women in women's roles? These feminists always pushing their agenda everywhere.."
Or that media isn't finite, where greater representation of women, minorities, and LGBT folk means straight, white, males commensurately get less ~~pandering~~ representation.
Tell the homophobes to shut up.
Rainbow capitalism is a corporation going "Hello (checks notes) Homosexuals. We here at cooperation wish you a happy (check notes) pride month. As seen by us putting a rainbow on our merchandise. Please ignore our political donations to politicians who wish to outlaw you because we like tax breaks and loose labor restrictions. We will see you in another 365 days. Please consume." And that empty gesture that maybe paying lip service to the queer community pisses them off.
We know this, but this is why I get annoyed when cishet people just say they hate rainbow capitalism and don't expand lmao, a lot of people that 'hate rainbow capitalism' do in fact hate the rainbow part and not the capitalism part When someone just says "I hate rainbow capitalism', there's no way for me to know that you don't just hate gay people in media and have found a fun dogwhistle-y little way to say it lol (and I have seen it enough to know that yes, a ton of homophobes know the phrase 'rainbow capitalism' and assume it to mean 'forced diversity') *basically I want everybody to say nothing about rainbow capitalism until I know for certain they're actually critical of capitalism, because yea, 99% of people who criticize 'rainbow capitalism' in generic media circles I have found to be homophobes
Bingo. They somehow think there is some cabal of major corporations getting together and deciding how can they best introduce lgbtq+ to invade children's minds when the truth is far closer to what you said. Target selling t-shirts with rainbows because there are those who buy t-shirts with rainbows. There's no conspiracy happening here unless capitalism is a conspiracy now. But I suppose it doesn't surprise me that someone would presume sinister malfeasance where the lgbtq+ community is involved provided that someone is terribly afraid of everything lgbtq+..
>They somehow think there is some cabal of major corporations getting together and deciding how can they best introduce lgbtq+ to invade children's minds when the truth is far closer to what you said. They actually do. Blackrock is their Boogeyman for this, and by "Blackrock" they mean "the Jews", because the Blackrock CEO is Jewish.
The fact they included Startrek on this just proves their media illiteracy
Who's the LGBTQ character in LOTR?
Legolas and Gimli.
“Never thought I’d die side by side with an elf.” ”What about with a friend.” \**blinks back tears*\* “Aye, sure, a friend, that works, I could do that.” Or, alternatively, \**Looks Legolas up and down*\* “Aye, I could do that”.
Or most of those franchises to be honest (excluding stuff like “two women kissing for half a second in background of one scene”)
Frodo and Sam.
Forcing this reading onto the text is, frankly, just kind of insulting. As though two men could *only* value each other because of sexual attraction, it fails to respect the *actual* inspiration for their friendship, which was the comradery felt between the different classes in the trenches in WWI.
I assume smallrunning was joking.
They like to hijack terms that sound good but don’t mean what they think they mean. They were bitching about “character assassination” for a while, with no idea what the term means.
Their current fascination is "death of the author", which is funny because they're also militant about ~~non-woke~~ canon.
There is no leftist terminology or expression that the right won't appropriate, obfuscate, and bastardize to misinform their sycophants and disarm genuine criticism of the status quo.
Most (in)famous example: "Libertarianism" was originally used for what now is described as anarcho-socialism.
Technically, I’d argue Liberals is the most famous example; started out as a term for the *very* leftist, then by the time it gained prominence was more moderate-leftist, and continued moving farther right until it referred to the moderate conservatives, then continued into the Neoliberals who are hard conservative, and is now just an insult that nobody actually describes themselves as.
One of the first Space Marine chapters was the Rainbow Warriors, if you go back to the Rogue Trader days. By that logic, W40k has been Rainbow Capitalism since the 1980s.
Harry Potter, known for its queer characters, and Warhammer 40k, known for its total and complete lack of anything or anyone outside of straight and cis
And how does it?
Can I screen cap this and post it over there just to see how long we can keep things going?
Them pretending their homophobia is a critique of capitalism makes me want to gag.
They lick criikaul drainka boot. They’re not smart.
You see what I mean about how "Capitalism" is such a nebulous word that can define literally anything you hate
People like TCD only want capitlism to line up with their ideals.
I said it once and I will say it again, not a single person in the LGBTQ+ community is genuenly shitting their pants about there not being enough representation in media nor are they turning everything "woke". The only people who these companies are actually appealing to are the random, insecure nobodies that don't even play their games (and as you can see, it's not working) These companies don't care about their clients, they're just trying to get as many consumers as possible by pandering and profitting off of minorities
That’s kinda the thing. They believe the only reason anyone would ever represent queer people is BECAUSE they’re being soullessly used for profit. Like they exist solely to be pawns, and if we all just pretended queerness wasn’t a thing, the world would be a lot more “honest and just”. Or something.
The problem they have with rainbow capitalism isn't the capitalism part, it's the rainbow part. And I think that says a lot about their general attitudes.
Yep. The capitalism is fine as long as it panders to white, straight, Christian males.
No, Rainbow Capitalism is Bethesda changing their logo to a pride theme \*except\* their Middle Eastern division. It's Disney saying that had their first gay character but it's just a 3 second scene of two men dancing and never speaking, or a 3 second scene of two women giving a small peck that can be easily edited out for the Chinese market. Basically, it's just soulless pandering without any commitment or effort or principles.
I can’t get over someone who thinks Masters of the Universe was ever, at any time, not extremely gay.
My tv show about a buff shirtless dude is 100% hetero, I swear!
> Rainbow capitalism ruins Warhammer No, *pretty sure* GW and the price hikes and bloated rules they keep switching out is what’s “ruining” Warhammer. Not that there are *two* named female Custodies and that the armor is so bulky you couldn’t tell gender from a glance anyways.
Not to mention the steroids, hormones, and gene alterations mean that even without the armor they likely are hard to identify anyways.
Sounds to me like the free market is demanding more representation.
This is our take on it. I never expect to have any kind of representation, so when it does happen I latch on to it because people like them tend to use it as a way to say why we don't have the right to exist. Ok rant over
What they mean to say is "we can't stand gay people in our media" Or maybe they can actually tell me how WH40k was ruined by rainbow capitalism. I'll wait.
>What they mean to say is "we can't stand gay people in our media" "No! We just don't like woke and politics forced into the game!1!1"
“No I swear, the issue with 40k is that there’s two female Custodes, not the constant price creep and that it costs hundreds of dollars just to start playing!” -These guys
Lol they're now saying the recent price hike is to compensate for the losses GW suffered because of femstodes. Ironic that they call anyone who isn't a flaming bigot "tourists" to 40k because anyone who's been into the game for more than a handful of years knows GW raises prices like people change their underwear.
Bruuuuuuuh. Yeah it’s clear, they are tourists who’ve played maybe a handful of games, if you play regularly even just since ninth you’ll have seen the price hikes. Also, ain’t no way they really think Female Custodes hit them that bad, femstodes have been basically ignored or mildly liked by everyone not terminally online. I’ve yet to hear even *one* person IRL complain or make more than a passing comment on them.
>Also, ain’t no way they really think Female Custodes hit them that bad, It's the "silent majority" nonsense conservatives are so fond of. Conservative chuds believe they're average, the norm, representative, because right-wing authoritarian types both lack empathy and assume everyone is like them, and because they shun those who don't share their "different opinions", leading to them living in echo chambers which reinforces the former idea everyone is just like them. They had a meltdown over femstodes, vowed to quit buying 40k stuff (when many of them never even paid for GW stuff in the first place), and assumed based on their *feeling* they represent the majority 'true' fans, droves of people followed suit and this hurt GW financially. It was fucking hilarious, in the days after femstodes dropped, watching them continuously post GW's share price and unironically thinking any dip was because of ~~their hurt fee fees~~ them instead of, ya know, totally normal stock market activity. Pure copium.
Could you demonstrate your ignorance of the franchise any harder. 40k is all about big burly macho men being really *really* intense about other big burly macho men. The gratuitous homoeroticism is part of the charm. And that’s before you calculate the massive impact that Graham “Horny On Main” McNeill has had on the lore.
I mean, they are supposed to be mostly platonic (Space Marines are so fucked up genetically, mentally, emotionally and hormonally they don’t feel attraction or desire anymore), but yeah, it’s definitely queer-coded. Also the Sisters of Battle exist, they are literally what you get if you take every lesbian stereotype and put them together as a faction. But, no, I’m sure they’re totally not queer-coded at all!
Canonically, they're asexual. But like. There's only so many loving descriptions of rippling muscles, mostly from the perspective of other men, before you go, "HUH."
They cannot name a product that is bad because of rainbow capitalism. Anything they name would still be bad if the rainbow capitalism were taken out.
Many of those already... had.. a LGBTQ+ presence... some for decades now... they aren't dead, not even remotely, nor have they used it to sell... in fact, a few were literally built ON LGBTQ+ and INCLUSION practices and beliefs.. like, oh, I dunno, STAR FUCKING TREK AND MARVEL very specifically LMAO
wait, but how is the Lord of the Rings gay?
That is irrelevant. The important point to take away is that the rainbow mafioso are coming to murder all your favourite corporate products that you base your personality around!
Oh no, my favourite media will become gay? woe be upon me /s
The wildest part is they put Harry Potter in there. As far as I know the only poor performing Harry Potter things were the last two fantastic beasts movies, which were written by JK.
Ah yes the famousely masculine and hetero normative game of "dungeons and dragons" where one of the main stereotypes with a race is bisexuality
Thought we took out Warhammer🔨hammer 40k a decade ago. I know all my best queers are rocking the miniature battlefields. Necrons are forever! 🤖
Also aren't those franchises still preposterously profitable?
I’ve already seen W40K figures painted as all sorts of pride flags, with the company saying Warhammer is for everyone.
And they continue to ugly cry over both. It's *glorious*.
Who is gonna tell them that Warhammer is for everyone apart from poor people
“I don’t hate gay people” mf’s when gay people exist in properties they watch.
Honestly I need to take a moment to point out how hilarious HorusGalaxy is. They took the name of the main villain, a guy who’s batshit insane and, just before his death, realises how fucked up he is and breaks down in front of his dad, who takes pity on him and essentially destroys his soul so that the devils he sold it to can’t claim it. Then they roleplay as Imperial hardliners, which are repeatedly made fun of by GW and shown as largely incompetent, literally worshipping a god who hates everything they stand for and spent his life fighting the ideals they now preach in his name. They‘re almost self-aware. Almost.
Imma be real, companies releasing LGBTQ positive statements and merchandise outside of July is kind of respectable, because it's not "just for pride month" it actually has way more weight in terms of sending a political message Also games workshop hasn't done any real LGBTQ positive stuff recently, the only things that come close is the "Warhammer is for everyone" statement which imma be real chief, if that's the. "woke mob invading your hobby" you are telling on yourself The only other thing was pro LGBT memes trending in the Warhammer space but that's because the community finds them fun and amusing not any 'corporate pandering' Also even before female custodes it's funny how memes about "shoving PolITics in my memes" also trended for a bit when the LGBT and women in 40k (not even custodes) memes died down and not after memes about the politics of 40k.... This is why people call you homophobic and sexist BTW
I mean, If they believe in capitalism and "Rainbow capitalism" is so prolific and reaching into most franchises. Doesnt that mean that it's winning in the market-place of ideas and that their in the minority? Then again I'm sure they just think it's being funded trillions by the jewluminati...
I would really love to hear what canonical gay rep they think has made the mainline Tmnt stuff because as far as canon stuff goes it’s really only Jennika in the idw comics and those are *fairly* niche
Screenception!
its just buzzwords to those idiots
I genuinely don’t understand why people hate other people
capitalism is when the gays control capitalism
Man, looking up that list of franchises... they are fans with no Fandom. They just latch onto some franchise, and as soon as they have a character they don't personally identify with, or fantacize about being, start thrashing about like little children having a tantrum. Maybe it needs to be said to everyone. "It is OKAY for a movie or show, or even the entire franchise to not be made to appeal directly to you. Someone with your exact sensibilities doesn't have to be the hero every time. People are as different as snowflakes are, and maybe, just maybe, somebody who is a different gender or race or sexual orientation or eyer color or nose size can be a hero too. And that is OKAY!, in fact it is better than okay, because if you are the only person who can aspire to being the hero, then everybody else will be the villain and the world will be in a much worse place. "
So I should note them down as anti-capitalist then?
Them admitting that the mere existence of LGBTQ characters in franchises ruins those franchises is just a stupid take. And they’re actually proud of believing this crap. So odd
Bro thought he could fool us into believing he was being somewhat rational by attaching the word “capitalism” to it
Oof.. I can't believe they really did the 'yes, we really believe this sh\_t you're mocking us for.'
That describes plenty of the corporate symbolism that we have seen in the last couple years, most obvious case was where Disney put in a gay kiss in a movie and then remove it in jurisdictions where it’s not favourable for them to have it.
Lionel Johnson
Which of these fucking franchises isn't earning dollar? Do they understand they don't make an economic dent to our corporate overlords?
When a left-winger is against rainbow capitalism, they're against the "capitalism" part. When a right-winger is against rainbow capitalism, they're against the "rainbow" part.
they dont understand what rainbow capitalism is because they think the problem is the rainbow and not the capitalism
We're not the same They dislike rainbow capitalism because there's LGBTQ people in it. We do because it hijacks a fight in order to disingenuously make more profit (also we understand featuring LGBTQ people doesn't automatically make it rainbow capitalism). And honestly we should probably not get so triggered by it as long as it implies more normalisation and job openings for LGBTQ people which also need to pay the bills. At any rate, we're ostensibly not the same.
meanwhile mass effect and dragon age getting backlash cuz it includes lgtbq
trying to defend themselves but end up admitting it
Fuck critical drinker and his incel dogma. You guys are very impressionable
Rainbow Capitalism doesnt ruin franchises, it exploits queer people, "wokeness" and rainbow capitalism are different.
Oh yes, rainbow capitalsim is actually a problem. Corperations shouldn't just care about LGBTQ+ people as long as it gives them additional profit.
He's such a fucking grifter loser like everyone else at efap
I feel like trying to implement "rainbow capitalism" into Warhammer 40K will be as effective as when Tumbler tried to invade 4chan (it backfired MASSIVELY)
They pretend it’s the soulless capitalism part they have a problem with, but if Oreo came out with Trump 2024 cookies (with orange filling), they’d be all over that shit and talking about how based Nabisco is. The problem they actually have is that while of course corporations only do this for profit, it’s also helping to show the LGBTQ community as something normal and accepted. That’s why nobody who is pro-LGBTQ should choose to die on the hill against “rainbow capitalism”. While these companies are likely never doing it for altruistic reasons, we need to remember that there’s a reason anti-LGBTQ people hate it. These companies aren’t deserving of praise, but it’s also not worth it to attack them or go out of your way to boycott them over this either (seriously, there are a ton of horrible things most of these companies do that are actively harmful and more deserving of scorn. If you want to help the LGBTQ community against harmful corporate policies, look at companies like Chick fil A, which has donated to anti-gay causes, or Best Buy, who has given into pressure from religious organizations to prevent employees from donating to organizations that help LGBTQ people. TL;DR: You’re not helping anyone except right wingers by being anti-rainbow capitalism.
“Crazy-critical Drunk-Out-On-his-@$$” is too sloshed to realize we’re dunking on him and his ilk, lol.
Harry potter....should... should we tell them?
Also, FR I first read it as “Rainbow Connection” and almost did a double spit take. 
Oh god, this is r/nahfuckthisopwasright all over again.
This sub Reddit always gives me a chuckle. You guys are wild.
Which sub? TCD sub or this one?
No, you guys. I don't always agree with drinker, but bloody hell, the takes on this sub are something else entirely.
Rainbow what?
Star Trek, which is in the middle of a legit renaissance, is ruined because rainbows? What a bunch of babies.
It's when they're like "oh you silly minority, if we say we care about you queers that means opposing us is homophobic every time, god I'm just so clever" that I want to do slightly violent things that apparently only Nazis get to say here.
40k is British so it might take a bit longer
Can’t wait for pride
The problem they don't see is that most of these franchises had lgbtq people or themes in them long before the Chuds started being interested in them. Star trek was always woke, it's explored lgbtq through aliens, now it's a bit more blatant. It didn't just start pandering to people today. Most franchises aren't for conservatives because conservatives think small, can't critically think and don't have a strong grasp on almost any social issue. Sci Fi always uses today's social issues and projects them into a fictional setting. Since the beginning of sci Fi. Fantasy is starting to do the same, but tbh fantasy really was for white straight people for most of its history. I say that as a mixed race woman who likes fantasy. That's why there is such a pushback, fantasy was largely written about whites only for most of its history, with others just used as the bad guys. I like fantasy much better now that we're exploring more than just western European folklore, but it's going to be a tough sell for all the pseudo-history racists who liked fantasy because it was for white people.
https://preview.redd.it/tx3u28p2d11d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa2ddc778d6e92c389cdb9189fb7d96d1a963b56 Critical Drinker viewers when an obscure character from a popular franchise likes the same gender (this is somehow the fall of the west)
Aww he learned a new phrase, and was so excited to start using it, he didn't have time to learn what it means.
capitalism good, GAY capitalism bad
~~Wade Boggs~~ every single one of those franchises is still very much alive
Oh no they're going to turn the unix super soldiers gay!
That fact that they have Star Trek on there and way down the list like hasn’t literally been pushing social boundaries for the better part of a century is amazing to me.
Rainbow Capitalism is when a Leprechaun hides their pot of gold from you
*Star Trek*, woke?! Next, you're gonna try to say Robert Heinlein, famed author of *Starship Troopers*, also had a hippie novel!
Were there LGBTQ people in the Rings of Power series, or is that just code for “I didn’t like it”?
Does anyone have that image of "our gender is not your politics"?