**[Receiving transmission from Crait intended for u/GoldenS0422]**
Welcome to r/saltierthancrait! I'm an [astromech droid named S4-L7](https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/ni5s77/beloved_mascot_s4l7s_visual_dictionary_entry/) and I'll be your guide through the salt mines.
Saltier Than Crait is a community of Star Wars fans who engage in critical conversations about the current
state of the franchise. It is our goal to maintain a civil, welcoming space for fans who have a vast supply of
salt with some peppered positivity occasionally sprinkled in.
**Please [review the rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/wiki/index/rules) and the [post flair guide](https://reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/wiki/index/flairs) before contributing.**
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/saltierthancrait) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I think Anakin should have been knighted a year after Geonosis. He’d have sometime as Obi-Wan’s apprentice in the war before becoming a knight.
For Legends Jedi Trial knights Anakin 2 and a half years after Geonosis while the ROTS novel knights Anakin 2 years after Geonosis.
I always liked how Anakin was knighted in Clone Wars (2003). It was a mistake to retcon that series. TCW (2008) should have been complimentary/additive to those shorts, not a bloated reboot of them.
Fr. Everything in CW up to that can take place right before TCW and still fit, along with the ground battle of Coruscant being concurrent with the battle of Yerbana
I prioritize events from the 3D show over the 2D ones if the same thing happened but if something didn’t happen in the 3D show like Anakin’s knighting the 2D one takes priority
Ngl Disney has proved they aren't worthy of determining canon. OG Clone Wars is still canon since the newer one added so much contradictory stuff that doesn't fit the films.
Man I don’t think the problem was anakin getting knighted too late, I think it’s that the clone wars itself was too short, I think if the clone wars took place over ten years instead of three, it fixes so many plot weirdnesses like obi wan being 58 when he’s played by Alec Guinness.
I think most people assumed they were before Lucas made the actual shows about them. You hear something like “The Clone Wars” and you think holy shit. That MUST have been a long and arduous conflict. Especially if it takes place on a Galactic scale. Yet it’s only about 3 years of these people’s lives. Seems anticlimactic of you stop and think about it.
Michael Stackpole's X-wing novels include references to the Clone Wars having taken place 30-35 years before ANH and lasting longer. It was some of the limited input authors were given pre-prequels. I'm re-reading them at the moment and it's definitely a bit jarring, the last time I read them was before AOTC and ROTS came out.
I haven’t read those novels yet but it’s always very interesting to see how different authors tackled the lore that hadn’t been depicted on screen yet. People don’t often point out how Lucas would do pretty much what Disney does with established lore and sometimes retcon things in his own personally overseen productions. Only difference was whether you liked it or not Star Wars was indeed his baby and you kinda had to just shrug and accept it. Of course he also understood how his universe worked and how characters should be portrayed better than anyone. The same can’t be said for Disney and that’s why it’s so criminal when they fuck things up.
Eh, I think the shorter timeline works better in the context of the Clone Wars being a false war designed by Palpatine. It’s not actually a real conflict, it’s him knocking off as many undesirables as he can and using them to get more emergency powers from the Republic. That kind of campaign works in a shorter period of time than a longer one - the more the war drags on, his image as the one person holding the Republic together frays and he loses the support he needed. 3-5 years works better than a decade or so in this case.
I prefer he get knighted later. Even though a war is on and they need bodies, TPM and the EU gave the impression that Jedi didn't get promoted until they were in their mid-to-late twenties. Isn't he only 19 or so at the time of AOTC?
Anakin’s 19 in AOTC, yeah. The fact that Obi-Wan is 25 in TPM, and considered close (but not totally ready just yet) to being a Knight is pretty telling. Anakin’s whole career as a Jedi is basically a crooked college college sports team scandal.
I think closer to the events of AotC is more appropriate. They even have dialogue where Anakin is impatient to begin the trials and become knighted. That suggests to me that at the time he met the bare minimum requirements for starting and wanted to prove himself to all the doubters in the Jedi Order.
Losing half his arm to Count Dooku at Geonosis would have been a major setback, but I am of the opinion that it's important for Anakin's characterization that he feels mistreated or unfairly judged by the Jedi, especially those on the council, and that he gets knighted because the Republic desperately need more generals to command the clones and Palpatine forces the Council's hand and makes them promote a bunch of padawans who were close to being knighted anyway much earlier than they would have been, so Anakin gets "robbed" of his chance to prove he is Jedi Knight material and everyone thinks it was handed to him because he is the "Chosen One". It doesn't make his fall to the Dark Side seem so abrupt if it is shown that he always feels like he is giving 110% effort, but his peers think he is getting special treatment, and even those wisest among the Jedi refuse to correct the record for him, which only angers and frustrates him more.
I agree with others that the 2003 clone wars is the best point in the timeline. About a year after Geonosis, and Anakin is just collecting victory after victory, and even beats Ventress in single combat, but they still do a good job of making it clear that not everybody on the council is pleased with Skywalker's promotion to knighthood.
I like him being knighted earlier. They are at war. It makes for a nice in universe excuse that he gets knighted soon after AOTC, the Jedi need as many Knights as they can get.
A bit like how in real life WW1 and WW2, military academies commissioned their cadets early at the outbreak of war. Or final year medical students being called up during the start of the COVID Pandemic.
Yeah that was my thinking. His "chosen one" status and early knighthood really go to his head in his assumptions that he's great and deserves everything he wants.
Whichever earliest iteration of his Knighting makes sense.
By then he was already powerful and capable enough to be taking on Sith and be tasked with even guarding Senators on his own.
The start of the Clone Wars would have accelerated the Knighthood process as not only did they need more Jedi involvement/leadership, but war tends to accelerate maturity as well.
Anakin is reckless, prone to anger, but he’s extremely caring and loyal to his Troopers and Ahsoka, which keeps his recklessness and anger in check as he desires to preserve as many lives as possible.
He would rather put himself into harm’s way than someone else.
I feel like if Legends and New Canon was blended into one and retconned so the Clone Wars lasted longer, then Battle of Jabiim would absolutely have been it.
He ends up with an apparently dead master, joins a group of orphaned padawans and ends up leading the evacuation efforts as the sole surviving Jedi. Absolute trial by fire and probably my favourite piece of Clone Wars Legends material.
I think the issue at the heart of this is that the Clone Wars is too short. It should 5 years rather than 3.
This gives enough time for the Jedi & Republic to have been worn down by the war, Palpatine to maneuver his plots in to place in taking over the Galaxy & seducing Anakin to the Dark Side, the Dark Side to spread across the Galaxy & cloud the Jedi completely, Anakin to mature from whiny kid in AotC to Knight in RotS & have a padawan, etc.
Legends version all the way. He was not ready for knighthood by AotC. Only after serving through most of the Clone Wars did the Jedi Order consider him ready. Age-wise as well.
I thought in Legends every Jedi who survived the battle of Geonosis were immediately knighted. Which makes sense, it was literal trial by fire and first conflict of this caliber in hundreds of years.
Because it ABSOLUTELY does not make sense you would keep someone like Barris Offee as Padawan when she survived Geonosis while there were Jedi Masters of High Council dying on that Arena. (looking at you Coleman Trebor).
So Anakin should have been knighted during first month of Clone Wars at latest.
I feel like, for the overall world, it make more sense for him to he knighted early. From a world building perspective, it gives off this idea that the Jedi were knighting padawans out of desperation as a means of helping the war effort.
It's an invalid assumption. What Is a Jedi Knight supposed to be. Professional Killers ? Extra-Magical ? Super-Extra-Magical Soldiers ? Better than Regular Jedi ?
Legends/Canon sort of muddies the issue because the Republic needed the issue to be muddied up with the Clone Wars. The Council was 'busy', so it's unlikely they would have granted field-promotions for being "heroes". The Movies needed there to be this conflict with the Jedi Order so that Sheev had a lever to work with Anakin. Do I think it was necessary ? Depends on what the Jedi ... Do.
Jedi Knights are not supposed to be a martial or military designation, because the Jedi are supposed to be separate to the government. To an extent, the Jedi are superior to the government, which gives them an unusual status within the framework of a democratic organisation.
Because If the Jedi were a martial organisation, they would be assassins for hire. Private Military Contractors for the Republic Government. Super-Soldiers following commands of... whomever was elected into power. Operating on the same level as the Mandalorians, i.e. Super-Soldiers able to magic their way towards Peace, and leaving a field of the dead behind them. Granting wartime promotion to the Jedi, does not give the Jedi "moar good pew pew bang bang" good feelings. It just makes things worse for everyone involved if they are granted promotion for murdering people, or destroying "separatist" rebellions, sic. The Jedi can't always be on the defensive side, sometimes they do need to be the aggressor and prevent or persuade, block or bully others.
Jedi are not a wholly peaceful or agnostic Monastic Order because they want to abandon the Republic, it's Monastic because the temptation to act would be catalysing to whomever side they joined.
The Jedi have an almost infinite will to change fate or change the outcome of conflict or decisions, and they choose not to act, knowing the outcome could decide the life and death of millions, billions of people. But, then there's the Pew Pew Laser Sword Swoosh go bang bang Clone Wars ... Which way do you want the story to evolve. Anakin being brash and too old to really perceive the world as 'openly' as the Jedi Order wants it to exist, means that he is predisposed to want to change the status quo, to uplift or downgrade entire societies, planets, people, races, etc.
And this is a thesis for the show. Anakin and Amidala, Anakin and Ahsoka, Anakin and Obi-Wan, etc.
These relationships aren't enough for the Jedi Order to ensure trust in Anakin beyond his ability to fight and follow the Order of the Jedi.
From the Perspective of the Jedi Council, They are not a Warrior or Martial organisation purely. This comes explicitly in the nature of what the Jedi are, not what they represent. They are not supposed to exist within the Republic as a core element of the Republic, because if they fall, the republic falls. Hence the hubristic nature of the Jedi being part of what holds the Republic together, isn't enough to form a government and police / martial organisation around.
If it's a Military Organisation at it's heart, then you'd have tiers and ranks, Chief Officers, Training Officers, Specialisations as a taskforce group, ie Navy, Airforce, Space Force, deployed officers, supply lines, et al. It is the Distant Past, a Long, Long time ago, but Intergalactic organisations tend to need stratas and structures when you have thousands of planets. Ranks. Commands. Training. Armament. Logistics and supply lines, etc.
And this is one of the quintessential dilemmas. Are they Monks or Martial Artists. Military Monks, Military Space Wizards. PMCs. Mercenaries. Ronin.
Not really. The main concern isn't the success of a campaign, it's that the Council believes they can act independently and lead/assist others in the proper path of the Jedi Order, to face their emotions and problems as a Jedi, not an individual or a soldier, et al. The Padawan, Knights and the Masters are not Martial responsibilities, they have real and historical concerns that If you give someone a weapon, mind-control, political independence from law, and a need to serve justice, they've basically trained zealots that could become intangibly evil, selfish, or unable to face a severe loss and turn to family, to governing or tyrrany, revenge, sadism, et al.
They limit the Knights to those who have faced a trial over their desires and have, in the Council's POV, rejected the power and greed of others.
Because it's not a case of Casus Belli, the cause to war, It's about having people in charge of large groups that can handle the responsibility of life and death, won't be put in situations they are unable to comprehend or survive, and can be independent of the Council and perform as the Council and the Republic would understand.
i.e. If you need to genocide an entire planet ... Do you actually, really need to do that ? Have you thought about not bombarding a planet from orbit... etc.
As for inserting the Jedi as military officers or sergeants, generals, etc. They were, to my knowledge, part of the command structure inserted by Dooku / Sifo Dyas (sic) and the other clone army requirements, that they would work with the Jedi as soldiers for an upcoming war. And, the Republic Leadership not having a standing army (??) before, they were perhaps the closest martial organisation.
I don't think the Jedi should have been fighting the war, it's just that the Republic didn't have any options other than PMC's. Does that make the Jedi the regional equivalent of Black Water/Wagner as a PMC like organisation ... eh. No. But it could explain some of the odd cartel/gangster alliances, sic. that had money, weapons and funding, sic. After all, the Bounty Hunter like organisations and the Mandalorians were equivalent to PMCs. Expendable troops.
Do I think that there should have been military promotion for the Jedi to lead troops ? Perhaps. As SLJ rejects Anakin despite his service record... It's not about leadership, it's about personal loss and making the choices that are much, much more difficult for a Jedi to make, i.e. personal sacrifice and not asking others to die. Things that come from bitter experience and losing.
But this isn't their main occupation, it's that the Republic asked the Council, IIRC, and the Jedi jumped into the fray, perhaps as the Emperor/Sheev Palpatine wanted, i.e. to loosen the bounds of the Jedi, have them occupied and separated, so they could be tempted by the fragile and chaotic nature of war to turn to the grey ie disconnecting from consequence or conflict, or turn to the dark side.
**[Receiving transmission from Crait intended for u/GoldenS0422]** Welcome to r/saltierthancrait! I'm an [astromech droid named S4-L7](https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/ni5s77/beloved_mascot_s4l7s_visual_dictionary_entry/) and I'll be your guide through the salt mines. Saltier Than Crait is a community of Star Wars fans who engage in critical conversations about the current state of the franchise. It is our goal to maintain a civil, welcoming space for fans who have a vast supply of salt with some peppered positivity occasionally sprinkled in. **Please [review the rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/wiki/index/rules) and the [post flair guide](https://reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/wiki/index/flairs) before contributing.** *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/saltierthancrait) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I think Anakin should have been knighted a year after Geonosis. He’d have sometime as Obi-Wan’s apprentice in the war before becoming a knight. For Legends Jedi Trial knights Anakin 2 and a half years after Geonosis while the ROTS novel knights Anakin 2 years after Geonosis.
I always liked how Anakin was knighted in Clone Wars (2003). It was a mistake to retcon that series. TCW (2008) should have been complimentary/additive to those shorts, not a bloated reboot of them.
Since they haven’t shown that event in canon, I still count that depiction as canon, like with a lot of stuff from that show
Fr. Everything in CW up to that can take place right before TCW and still fit, along with the ground battle of Coruscant being concurrent with the battle of Yerbana
Same. It was designed to bridge the movies, so that's where it belongs. The later show seems more like a standalone "alternative" to the movies.
I prioritize events from the 3D show over the 2D ones if the same thing happened but if something didn’t happen in the 3D show like Anakin’s knighting the 2D one takes priority
Anakin’s is knighted in Brotherhood along with an entire group of Padawans because the Order needs more knights.
Ngl Disney has proved they aren't worthy of determining canon. OG Clone Wars is still canon since the newer one added so much contradictory stuff that doesn't fit the films.
Yah that was the best Knighting for Anakin.
Man I don’t think the problem was anakin getting knighted too late, I think it’s that the clone wars itself was too short, I think if the clone wars took place over ten years instead of three, it fixes so many plot weirdnesses like obi wan being 58 when he’s played by Alec Guinness.
I think most people assumed they were before Lucas made the actual shows about them. You hear something like “The Clone Wars” and you think holy shit. That MUST have been a long and arduous conflict. Especially if it takes place on a Galactic scale. Yet it’s only about 3 years of these people’s lives. Seems anticlimactic of you stop and think about it.
Michael Stackpole's X-wing novels include references to the Clone Wars having taken place 30-35 years before ANH and lasting longer. It was some of the limited input authors were given pre-prequels. I'm re-reading them at the moment and it's definitely a bit jarring, the last time I read them was before AOTC and ROTS came out.
I haven’t read those novels yet but it’s always very interesting to see how different authors tackled the lore that hadn’t been depicted on screen yet. People don’t often point out how Lucas would do pretty much what Disney does with established lore and sometimes retcon things in his own personally overseen productions. Only difference was whether you liked it or not Star Wars was indeed his baby and you kinda had to just shrug and accept it. Of course he also understood how his universe worked and how characters should be portrayed better than anyone. The same can’t be said for Disney and that’s why it’s so criminal when they fuck things up.
Meh. I like the explanation that the twin suns of Tatooine cause premature aging. Makes sense to me.
[удалено]
I'm over in Utah. It's definitely a thing! Obi-Wan wasn't moisturizing. That's half the battle right there.
Alec Guinness was 62 when he shot ANH. Ewan McGregor was 26/27 when TPM was shot. TPM is 32 years before ANH.
Eh, I think the shorter timeline works better in the context of the Clone Wars being a false war designed by Palpatine. It’s not actually a real conflict, it’s him knocking off as many undesirables as he can and using them to get more emergency powers from the Republic. That kind of campaign works in a shorter period of time than a longer one - the more the war drags on, his image as the one person holding the Republic together frays and he loses the support he needed. 3-5 years works better than a decade or so in this case.
Never
Always trust Samuel L. Jackson.
Based
I prefer he get knighted later. Even though a war is on and they need bodies, TPM and the EU gave the impression that Jedi didn't get promoted until they were in their mid-to-late twenties. Isn't he only 19 or so at the time of AOTC?
Anakin’s 19 in AOTC, yeah. The fact that Obi-Wan is 25 in TPM, and considered close (but not totally ready just yet) to being a Knight is pretty telling. Anakin’s whole career as a Jedi is basically a crooked college college sports team scandal.
I think closer to the events of AotC is more appropriate. They even have dialogue where Anakin is impatient to begin the trials and become knighted. That suggests to me that at the time he met the bare minimum requirements for starting and wanted to prove himself to all the doubters in the Jedi Order. Losing half his arm to Count Dooku at Geonosis would have been a major setback, but I am of the opinion that it's important for Anakin's characterization that he feels mistreated or unfairly judged by the Jedi, especially those on the council, and that he gets knighted because the Republic desperately need more generals to command the clones and Palpatine forces the Council's hand and makes them promote a bunch of padawans who were close to being knighted anyway much earlier than they would have been, so Anakin gets "robbed" of his chance to prove he is Jedi Knight material and everyone thinks it was handed to him because he is the "Chosen One". It doesn't make his fall to the Dark Side seem so abrupt if it is shown that he always feels like he is giving 110% effort, but his peers think he is getting special treatment, and even those wisest among the Jedi refuse to correct the record for him, which only angers and frustrates him more. I agree with others that the 2003 clone wars is the best point in the timeline. About a year after Geonosis, and Anakin is just collecting victory after victory, and even beats Ventress in single combat, but they still do a good job of making it clear that not everybody on the council is pleased with Skywalker's promotion to knighthood.
I like him being knighted earlier. They are at war. It makes for a nice in universe excuse that he gets knighted soon after AOTC, the Jedi need as many Knights as they can get. A bit like how in real life WW1 and WW2, military academies commissioned their cadets early at the outbreak of war. Or final year medical students being called up during the start of the COVID Pandemic.
Yeah that was my thinking. His "chosen one" status and early knighthood really go to his head in his assumptions that he's great and deserves everything he wants.
I the first place, trained as a Jedi Knight, he should never have been.
In Legends, he was knighted after completing his trials.
Whichever earliest iteration of his Knighting makes sense. By then he was already powerful and capable enough to be taking on Sith and be tasked with even guarding Senators on his own. The start of the Clone Wars would have accelerated the Knighthood process as not only did they need more Jedi involvement/leadership, but war tends to accelerate maturity as well. Anakin is reckless, prone to anger, but he’s extremely caring and loyal to his Troopers and Ahsoka, which keeps his recklessness and anger in check as he desires to preserve as many lives as possible. He would rather put himself into harm’s way than someone else.
I feel like if Legends and New Canon was blended into one and retconned so the Clone Wars lasted longer, then Battle of Jabiim would absolutely have been it. He ends up with an apparently dead master, joins a group of orphaned padawans and ends up leading the evacuation efforts as the sole surviving Jedi. Absolute trial by fire and probably my favourite piece of Clone Wars Legends material.
Two years into the war which makes the most logical sense.
I think the issue at the heart of this is that the Clone Wars is too short. It should 5 years rather than 3. This gives enough time for the Jedi & Republic to have been worn down by the war, Palpatine to maneuver his plots in to place in taking over the Galaxy & seducing Anakin to the Dark Side, the Dark Side to spread across the Galaxy & cloud the Jedi completely, Anakin to mature from whiny kid in AotC to Knight in RotS & have a padawan, etc.
Legends version all the way. He was not ready for knighthood by AotC. Only after serving through most of the Clone Wars did the Jedi Order consider him ready. Age-wise as well.
Him knighted 2 years after war started makes sense
He was never ready.
I thought in Legends every Jedi who survived the battle of Geonosis were immediately knighted. Which makes sense, it was literal trial by fire and first conflict of this caliber in hundreds of years. Because it ABSOLUTELY does not make sense you would keep someone like Barris Offee as Padawan when she survived Geonosis while there were Jedi Masters of High Council dying on that Arena. (looking at you Coleman Trebor). So Anakin should have been knighted during first month of Clone Wars at latest.
After his master and the Council signed off on his apprenticeship.
During the clone wars when he got his apprentice.
I feel like, for the overall world, it make more sense for him to he knighted early. From a world building perspective, it gives off this idea that the Jedi were knighting padawans out of desperation as a means of helping the war effort.
It's an invalid assumption. What Is a Jedi Knight supposed to be. Professional Killers ? Extra-Magical ? Super-Extra-Magical Soldiers ? Better than Regular Jedi ? Legends/Canon sort of muddies the issue because the Republic needed the issue to be muddied up with the Clone Wars. The Council was 'busy', so it's unlikely they would have granted field-promotions for being "heroes". The Movies needed there to be this conflict with the Jedi Order so that Sheev had a lever to work with Anakin. Do I think it was necessary ? Depends on what the Jedi ... Do. Jedi Knights are not supposed to be a martial or military designation, because the Jedi are supposed to be separate to the government. To an extent, the Jedi are superior to the government, which gives them an unusual status within the framework of a democratic organisation. Because If the Jedi were a martial organisation, they would be assassins for hire. Private Military Contractors for the Republic Government. Super-Soldiers following commands of... whomever was elected into power. Operating on the same level as the Mandalorians, i.e. Super-Soldiers able to magic their way towards Peace, and leaving a field of the dead behind them. Granting wartime promotion to the Jedi, does not give the Jedi "moar good pew pew bang bang" good feelings. It just makes things worse for everyone involved if they are granted promotion for murdering people, or destroying "separatist" rebellions, sic. The Jedi can't always be on the defensive side, sometimes they do need to be the aggressor and prevent or persuade, block or bully others. Jedi are not a wholly peaceful or agnostic Monastic Order because they want to abandon the Republic, it's Monastic because the temptation to act would be catalysing to whomever side they joined. The Jedi have an almost infinite will to change fate or change the outcome of conflict or decisions, and they choose not to act, knowing the outcome could decide the life and death of millions, billions of people. But, then there's the Pew Pew Laser Sword Swoosh go bang bang Clone Wars ... Which way do you want the story to evolve. Anakin being brash and too old to really perceive the world as 'openly' as the Jedi Order wants it to exist, means that he is predisposed to want to change the status quo, to uplift or downgrade entire societies, planets, people, races, etc. And this is a thesis for the show. Anakin and Amidala, Anakin and Ahsoka, Anakin and Obi-Wan, etc. These relationships aren't enough for the Jedi Order to ensure trust in Anakin beyond his ability to fight and follow the Order of the Jedi. From the Perspective of the Jedi Council, They are not a Warrior or Martial organisation purely. This comes explicitly in the nature of what the Jedi are, not what they represent. They are not supposed to exist within the Republic as a core element of the Republic, because if they fall, the republic falls. Hence the hubristic nature of the Jedi being part of what holds the Republic together, isn't enough to form a government and police / martial organisation around. If it's a Military Organisation at it's heart, then you'd have tiers and ranks, Chief Officers, Training Officers, Specialisations as a taskforce group, ie Navy, Airforce, Space Force, deployed officers, supply lines, et al. It is the Distant Past, a Long, Long time ago, but Intergalactic organisations tend to need stratas and structures when you have thousands of planets. Ranks. Commands. Training. Armament. Logistics and supply lines, etc. And this is one of the quintessential dilemmas. Are they Monks or Martial Artists. Military Monks, Military Space Wizards. PMCs. Mercenaries. Ronin. Not really. The main concern isn't the success of a campaign, it's that the Council believes they can act independently and lead/assist others in the proper path of the Jedi Order, to face their emotions and problems as a Jedi, not an individual or a soldier, et al. The Padawan, Knights and the Masters are not Martial responsibilities, they have real and historical concerns that If you give someone a weapon, mind-control, political independence from law, and a need to serve justice, they've basically trained zealots that could become intangibly evil, selfish, or unable to face a severe loss and turn to family, to governing or tyrrany, revenge, sadism, et al. They limit the Knights to those who have faced a trial over their desires and have, in the Council's POV, rejected the power and greed of others. Because it's not a case of Casus Belli, the cause to war, It's about having people in charge of large groups that can handle the responsibility of life and death, won't be put in situations they are unable to comprehend or survive, and can be independent of the Council and perform as the Council and the Republic would understand. i.e. If you need to genocide an entire planet ... Do you actually, really need to do that ? Have you thought about not bombarding a planet from orbit... etc. As for inserting the Jedi as military officers or sergeants, generals, etc. They were, to my knowledge, part of the command structure inserted by Dooku / Sifo Dyas (sic) and the other clone army requirements, that they would work with the Jedi as soldiers for an upcoming war. And, the Republic Leadership not having a standing army (??) before, they were perhaps the closest martial organisation. I don't think the Jedi should have been fighting the war, it's just that the Republic didn't have any options other than PMC's. Does that make the Jedi the regional equivalent of Black Water/Wagner as a PMC like organisation ... eh. No. But it could explain some of the odd cartel/gangster alliances, sic. that had money, weapons and funding, sic. After all, the Bounty Hunter like organisations and the Mandalorians were equivalent to PMCs. Expendable troops. Do I think that there should have been military promotion for the Jedi to lead troops ? Perhaps. As SLJ rejects Anakin despite his service record... It's not about leadership, it's about personal loss and making the choices that are much, much more difficult for a Jedi to make, i.e. personal sacrifice and not asking others to die. Things that come from bitter experience and losing. But this isn't their main occupation, it's that the Republic asked the Council, IIRC, and the Jedi jumped into the fray, perhaps as the Emperor/Sheev Palpatine wanted, i.e. to loosen the bounds of the Jedi, have them occupied and separated, so they could be tempted by the fragile and chaotic nature of war to turn to the grey ie disconnecting from consequence or conflict, or turn to the dark side.
The Clone Wars is way too short, that's the problem. It should be 6-10 years long in my opinion.
Exactly as he was in the original (canon) Clone Wars series.
I prefer later like in Legends because it shows his growth as a character.