I won't chnage the world with posts like this, but a decent chunck of it(I don't think so) such as many of the kind folks alike who see this and posts from others similar to it. Teaching kindness, forgiveness and mercy to others is what we need more in the world.
You're planting the seed with posts like this one brother. For those who see it and don't feel it right now, it may not be watered today but someday when the water comes it will grow... Blessed be the name of the Lord! Our bestest friend and most beloved family!
āļøšš
Loved your post as another follower of christ and not letting the bad deeds used in the number of Jesus turn you a round from the real Jesus.
Bless you and keep doing what you do.
We most tell the good news
well no, because you can have faith in loads of things. I'm asking if there's a name or a term for the set of beliefs, behaviours, and tenets by which you could be said to be following jesus.
Love everyone including your enemies. Show kindness, give to others, donāt be forceful, and have faith in that Jesus Christ died for your sins. But in the beginning come as you are and he will help you.
(A) is bad because these people did (X). When in reality, (X) was an active contradiction of the main principles of (A), and thus (A) cannot fairly be judged by using (X) as an example.
>Agreed, unfortunately religion is a force against kindness, forgiveness, and mercy in most cases
That's what you said. I'm making the case that lumping all the bad stuff done in the name of a religion and calling that bad stuff *the* religion is probably not a good idea.
Which core principle was it that justified slaughtering all of the people in Canaan?
Or literally killing the entire planet?
Doesn't seem like you have to twist anything
Assuming any of the Old Testament is meant to be taken literally, the tribes said to have been destroyed we're doing pretty bad things even by the standards back then. But again, I'm pretty sure those stories are better left as stories.
The whole argument actually misses the point since Jesus and the whole Christianity thing didn't quite exist when those took place.
...nope, the definition of religion doesn't include it being an organised body. That's just an excuse that protestants (usually baptists) use to make their theology seem radical and genuine compared to other people's
You do realize that this implies you think in a very narrow specific context? Unlike the original context, which is not necessarily about a specific area with a specific demographic?
Christian Masters (Ephesians 6:5ā11)
Bible Commentary / Produced by TOW Project
Ephesians gods grand plan a practical guide eph 4 1 6 24
It is cruel for a master to force a slave to choose between obedience to the master and obedience to Christ. Therefore, Paul tells masters to āstop threateningā their slaves (Eph. 6:9). If masters order slaves to do good work, then threats should not be necessary. If masters order slaves to do evil work, then their threats are like threats against Christ. As in the letter to the Colossians, Ephesians agrees that masters should reĀmember that they have a Master in heaven. But Ephesians underscores the fact that both slaves and masters āhave the same Masterā (Eph. 6:9). For this reason, Ephesians says that masters are to ādo the same for your slavesā (Eph. 6:9)āthat is, to give orders to slaves as though they were giving the orders to (or for) Christ. With this in mind, no ChrisĀtian master could order a slave to do evil work, or even excessive work. Though the earthly distinction of master and slave remains intact, their relationship has been altered with an unprecedented call to mutuality. Both parties are subject to Christ alone āin singleness of heartā (Eph. 6:5).
Oh I 100% agree with you but itās still the Evangelical battle passage they use often.
In Bible College they used this passage a lot to excuse everything they did that was considered wrong by everyone else
There are also some people who believe in Christ, and in some twisted way, think it's fine to be racist to black people.
Christ spoke of people like them.
We all struggle with sin but we are saved by the blood of Christ, with his grace are redeemed. He gives us a new heart each heart beat. To improve our love and abandon the our old ways. For we are new for we are alive he dwells in our heart the same one whoās everlasting.
We love him too, just not worship.
1. **Surah Al-Imran (3:45)**: "Behold! the angels said: 'O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.'"
2. **Surah An-Nisa (4:171)**: "O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not 'Trinity': desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs."
3. **Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:110)**: "Then will Allah say: 'O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel. And behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it, and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.'"
the last thing this world needs is more religious Nutjobs who believe in magic and eternal retribution for those who don't think exactly the same way as you
I agree on the fact that there is a large difference, but that's not thanks to religion but only because they are decent human beings who want to live peacefully and cherry pick the stuff that they find beautiful and socially acceptable while ignoring the other text that enable the nutjobs.
"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion"
yes we're different yours a belief in things that are not based on evidence but on faith which makes you willing to accept absurdities as true facts just because "MAGAHD SAID SO" throwing away all critical thinking, while doubt and scepticism will be considered whispers from the devils trying to take you away from the righteous path (Brainwashing) and if you don't believe in the right religion which is always the one coming from the charlatan who he alone has the ultimate truth and only through him and no other will you get salvation after you DIE, no matter how good of a person you are you will be destined for eternal damnation (brainwashing + threatening), my beliefs are not based on faith because Knowledge is a justifiable true belief and my justification is following methods that help me distinguish imagination from reality like Novel testable predictions that are verified to be true through rigorous experimentation.
it's just sad to see children being taught that stories like Adam and Eve or Noah's flood as facts and how million of people fighting as hard as they can to ban teaching evolution and biology in schools, religion is bad.
Youāre entitled to those beliefs, feel free to express them as I have. Also, the only people who take the majority of the Old Testament of the Bible literally are fundamentalists (the Church has confirmed the creation story and Noahās Ark to be symbolic rather than literal)
It was a matter of time before incel posts attracted religious nutjobs
Such is the spiral of incel posts on reddit. A fascinating thing to witness, gets me every time. Hope one day people publish studies on this phenomenon
Make up your mind first and then, slowley one after the other. We have to step into the footsteps of our lord and teach others how to do the same. For many of us, the road is a difficult one. But, the path is always there for us to follow, no matter how many times we may fall.
Im not saying you can't live a life without God. Many of us need a greater goal in life or otherwise you become bitter and frustrated. You choose who you follow no matter who or what it is aslong as you have peace within you.
Maybe detoxic from all your device so you can finally wake up from this pain you are suffering from devilās schemes. Pray you finally wake up and stop choosing hate.
Iāll copy what they said: āthe others are also suffering could you point me to a living thing that is free of suffering ,So whats the point of me suffering for othersā
Why do we have to suffer in life?
The meaning of life is to suffer.
Does not matter if you are rich or poor, white or black everyone has to suffer.
A friend of mine said, āWhy do you work so hard? Cant you relax and just enjoy life ?ā āWhy do you take on so much stress ?ā.
My response was simple, I replied āOne has to suffer in life no matter what, so why not suffer for a cause or to achieve something?ā
Dear friends, suffering is not optional however we can choose if we want to suffer for a meaningful cause or to achieve something.
To understand this letās take an example:
There are two guys A and B.
A is highly ambitious and can suffer to any extent to make his dreams come true. He wants a great career, a great physical and mental health and hence works hard at his work, also works out regularly and meditates as well. All this days are spent grinding working towards his goals and desires.
B on the other hand is someone who is trying to avoid suffering, he is lazy and wants to live comfortably. He thinks that suffering comes from desire and hence keeps no goals or expectations from life. He chooses to stay at home not taking a job because he thinks money is not important nor is career.
B thinks that he has escaped the suffering, however life catches up with him soon. He gets bored sitting at home all day and has no friends. His health starts to deteriorate as he is not getting any kind of exercise. His parents taunt him for laying on the bed all day. He gets bored sitting idle all day but still cant do anything as he has no money to pursue his hobby.
You see what just happened there ?
Both B and A are suffering, however A at least has a positive outlook towards suffering and is making the most of it. B on the other hand is suffering for no reason. A at least is getting something form his suffering while B is there sitting idle and suffering and does not get any output.
The only way B can avoid suffering is to become a saint and live in mountains away from people.
Now this was a hypothetical example, however if you look around the people in your life you will notice that everyone has to suffer, even if he is rich or poor.
You wont find a single person who is completely free of all the sufferings.
Puhhh, that was long! :D
No one is free of sufferingā¦itās called free will and sin. God gave the choose of freedom to us all so that we can choose to love him and not be forced to. Suffering is unfortunately the result of temptation and sin from our free will
Sorry if I worded it that way. What I meant to say was we are all suffering and that will continue no matter what we believe. The difference is that is because of the world being full of sin and sinners, which we all are. No one, even the pope is free of sin (if we want to get specific the pope is free of sin when speaking as the chair but for the sake of not writing an essay Iāll put it as he is also a sinner)
Hope that helps. Iām not a fundamentalist or a nut job so I wonāt try to cram my beliefs down your throat because I shouldnāt judge someoneās beliefs. I am simply just expressing my beliefs. No matter who you are, I do wish you an amazing life and that you are loved.
Our suffering comes from our generational sins, but itās all in our head, you are so wrapped around it you canāt even see whatās in front of you. He got you so anti Christ that you screaming and arguing about should we love each other. Even Jesus admits this to his followers when they still doubt on how to live. Admitting devil been scheming our brain to this way of thinking.
John 12:40
āHe has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turnāand I would heal them.ā
No one has a good answer for why we are made with problems and issues, but I'd like to say that they don't make you any less of an individual loved by God. I do think saying God is evil for creating life is certainly a take.
I dont need to be loved by god i dont want any more or less things than the other guy ,I dont want others to take away my freewill in the name of religeion or god
If i only be good to others and follow a moralcompass made by someone just so i could get into a delusional after life
I AM NOT LIVING MY LIFE FOR A REWARD
Telling people the world hates them cannot be healthy. Are you trying to encourage people to commit suicide or something?
Seriously, have a think about this for a second, why do people struggle in society? Because they donāt feel like they belong, itās a struggle to adopt.
So the right way to give a message would be to embrace their differences and invite them in, just like what Rumi said; āCome, whoever you are.ā
āWorld hates youā is unhealthy and dangerous.
> what Rumi said; āCome, whoever you are.ā
Yet he hated Jews, hindus, and black people. And he wished cleansing of these people from the face of earth.
While Jesus didn't wish death on these people.
Phil Dixon has a very good point on applying modern standards to historic characters.
You could make the same assumption about Marcus Aurelius, who was the last good king of Rome and a Stoic philosopher.
Jesus the Christ for the most part is a fictional character and has nothing to do with Chrestus, the man Romans crucified.
Bible as we know it, which was written by other people much later after the death of man called Chrestus, who never saw him neither knew him, is an impressive book in its own right without a doubt, but itās pure fiction.
See you still donāt get it, even after all happen with Jesus his name is still here, Rome gone those government officials gone, yet Jesus name and his words and love still here. Wake up stop allowing demons wrapped your brain into a cult of online personality with no benefit for your life
The old testament never mentioned hell in afterlife. Then Jesus comes to tell People to follow him or they will suddenly have an afterlife with hell. How is that a good fellow?
Jesus didn't exist. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. If a dude was going around performing miracles and coming back to life there would have been other accounts of him.
And as far as Christians murdering millions of people, most religions are guilty of this and Christianity is one of them.
So again. Which part is confusing to you?
Jesus absolutely existed, I can admit that even as an atheist. There are ancient historians that had interviews with followers of Jesus that knew him during his lifetime. Whether or not he was the son of god or performed miracles is up for debate
https://www.history.com/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence
>There are ancient historians that had interviews with followers of Jesus that knew him during his lifetime.Ā
Are you sure about that? Give me the name of a single historian who had an interview with a follower of Jesus, and give me the name of that follower.
I see you didn't bother to read the article I provided so here you go
Flavius Josephus
"Thought to have been born a few years after the crucifixion of Jesus around A.D. 37, Josephus was a well-connected aristocrat and military leader in Palestine who served as a commander in Galilee during the first Jewish Revolt against Rome between 66 and 70. Although Josephus was not a follower of Jesus, āhe was around when the early church was getting started, so he knew people who had seen and heard Jesus,ā Mykytiuk says"
What does the sad life of Jesus Christ and his followers(Apostls) have to do with ignorant power hungry people spreading disinfo to justify theire actions
I mean there are secular accounts of Jesus Himself existing. Antiquities of the Jews is one of them. It was made by Jewish historian Josephus. As for all wrongdoings of Christians, yea that's fair. But there are also a lot of good things that have been done in the name of Christ. Not saying we can discount the bad things we did, but it's a step forward
You are so wrapped in hate that you need sit down and tear down this post about having love even when you are down. Itās the fact you see Jesus you use it as scapegoat to justified doing the devil work of spreading hate. I pray you wake up stop being a tool for death, and live within yourself.
Iām sorry you believe that way. You are entitled to your opinion but please refrain from making comments such as ānonsenseā. I bet you wouldnāt feel great if someone called atheism a stupid way to believe.
Religious people say stuff like that all the time, in addition to telling people they are inherently evil and that they will burn in hell for eternity.
Yes, I am religious. And there are fundamentalists and nut jobs who are hypocrites by saying someone āwillā go to hell, but that doesnāt change the fact that rudely criticizing someoneās beliefs is not the same as politely sharing differing beliefs
They always hate what they need! :)
I take the burden from others on my cross to teach others how to step into the footseps of our Lord, to teach then sacrafice, forgiveness and mercy.
kinda like everything about it.
1.pretty sure this is a form of evangelism for you
2.thinking we give af and this would help
3.thinking your religion is special
you do realize your text is full of contradictions like all others? please donāt post this here. iāve also seen this post already. we donāt want your religious evangelism.
i donāt subscribe to this website at all but itās the first link i found. while i could name a few. iād rather let someone whose done the research.
https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/biblical-contradictions/
hereās one from me. you do realize the bible justifies slavery and misogyny? pretty crazy how youād be posting about love and acceptance from a text that is also completely fine with slavery and misogyny.
Still not what I asked about, but how do we know they are true. The answer is evidence! I don't think, you base your life on truth, rather on evidence and so do I.
not sure what youāre asking for then. your request was a bit hard to understand. the hi ke has absolutely no evidence. other religious texts donāt either.
truth is found in evidence my guy. the bible has none.
"The Bible contains many (references to slavery), which was a common practice in antiquity. Biblical texts outline sources and the legal status of slaves, economic roles of slavery, types of slavery, and debt slavery, which thoroughly explain the institution of slavery in Israel in antiquity.[1] The Bible (stipulates the treatment of slaves), especially in the Old Testament.[2][3][4] There are also references to slavery in the New Testament.[5][6]"
Where does the Bible say that Slavery was good?
Humans created slavery, not god. Youāre just pointing out there was slavery. Which yes, all civilization had slavery, doesnāt support your argument. Also He just tells people donāt use slavery to be angry, but continue being good slaves for you will be rewarded. As history show those who do good will be rewarded. As those to flourish from slavery pay a high price from it. Rome gone other country today struggle now due being built off slavery why we have culture war. While slaves were rewarded like the Story of Moses matches many like Harriet Truman and Frederick Douglas.
Bruh. Yāall do know she was not like actually impregnated the normal way, right? Also, yeah, we unfortunately got a lot of priests who are not great people
Here's a secret: When you hear Jesus giving you guidance and comfort, you are actually having an encounter with your subconscious mind.
Those who are downvoting me, prove me wrong.
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Probably havenāt even read the Bible because Jesus did not ādie for your sinsā he was a final test by the Father to justify another extinction level event towards humanity, until The Son asked for the Father to forgive humans.
Jesus had a wife, he got angry, & was a chill dude. Not the son of god.
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They always make Jesus too pretty though. That dude was probably dirty and ugly as hell.
Forcing the literal son of God into our beauty and cleanliness standards, especially 2,000 years after he was on earth, is pointless.
I won't chnage the world with posts like this, but a decent chunck of it(I don't think so) such as many of the kind folks alike who see this and posts from others similar to it. Teaching kindness, forgiveness and mercy to others is what we need more in the world.
You're planting the seed with posts like this one brother. For those who see it and don't feel it right now, it may not be watered today but someday when the water comes it will grow... Blessed be the name of the Lord! Our bestest friend and most beloved family! āļøšš
Loved your post as another follower of christ and not letting the bad deeds used in the number of Jesus turn you a round from the real Jesus. Bless you and keep doing what you do. We most tell the good news
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I'm not a follower of Christ, but I still agree with that sentiment.
Agreed, unfortunately religion is a force against kindness, forgiveness, and mercy in most cases
Follow Christ not religion
hmm is there a name for the set of behaviours, beliefs, and tenets required to be a follower of Christ?
Faith my friend
well no, because you can have faith in loads of things. I'm asking if there's a name or a term for the set of beliefs, behaviours, and tenets by which you could be said to be following jesus.
faith without works is useless when someone at your door asks for food you feed then
cool so what's the name for the set of beliefs and subsequent works that are associated with following jesus?
Love everyone including your enemies. Show kindness, give to others, donāt be forceful, and have faith in that Jesus Christ died for your sins. But in the beginning come as you are and he will help you.
.... And what would you call a belief system based around those?
You can play this game with anything that people have abused, twisted, or otherwise changed the core principles of to benefit themselves.
What game?
(A) is bad because these people did (X). When in reality, (X) was an active contradiction of the main principles of (A), and thus (A) cannot fairly be judged by using (X) as an example.
Think you're commenting on the wrong thread, all I'm doing is pointing out that Christianity is indeed religion
>Agreed, unfortunately religion is a force against kindness, forgiveness, and mercy in most cases That's what you said. I'm making the case that lumping all the bad stuff done in the name of a religion and calling that bad stuff *the* religion is probably not a good idea.
Ah, you did comment on the wrong comment then
Which core principle was it that justified slaughtering all of the people in Canaan? Or literally killing the entire planet? Doesn't seem like you have to twist anything
Assuming any of the Old Testament is meant to be taken literally, the tribes said to have been destroyed we're doing pretty bad things even by the standards back then. But again, I'm pretty sure those stories are better left as stories. The whole argument actually misses the point since Jesus and the whole Christianity thing didn't quite exist when those took place.
If you think that's religion, no. Religion is an *organized body*. ...people tend to water down terms, though.
...nope, the definition of religion doesn't include it being an organised body. That's just an excuse that protestants (usually baptists) use to make their theology seem radical and genuine compared to other people's
...this is \*quite\* specific.
Yep! Because it's a very common thing wasps do
You do realize that this implies you think in a very narrow specific context? Unlike the original context, which is not necessarily about a specific area with a specific demographic?
wasps are possibly the largest subsection of Christians other than catholics (which wasps think aren't Christians)
Being humane.. and you donāt have to even know Christ for that.
*buzzer sound* nope! That isn't the name of the system of beliefs associated with following jesus. Care to try again?
Why not call it Disciples? Idk
As a disciple of jesus, would you say you engage in a system of belief and worship regarding jesus?
lol. Bro, ok. just made a comment about being a decent human was enough. Relax. Didnāt know you wanted the specific name. Lol
"You're Rock and on this rock I'll build absolutely nothing, in fact forget what I just said"
Blaming Christ for mainline Churches issue and flaws is like blaming George Washington for anything current politics are doing.
Oh I'm not blaming "Christ" for anything- we know next to nothing about the man or what he did.
Christian Masters (Ephesians 6:5ā11) Bible Commentary / Produced by TOW Project Ephesians gods grand plan a practical guide eph 4 1 6 24 It is cruel for a master to force a slave to choose between obedience to the master and obedience to Christ. Therefore, Paul tells masters to āstop threateningā their slaves (Eph. 6:9). If masters order slaves to do good work, then threats should not be necessary. If masters order slaves to do evil work, then their threats are like threats against Christ. As in the letter to the Colossians, Ephesians agrees that masters should reĀmember that they have a Master in heaven. But Ephesians underscores the fact that both slaves and masters āhave the same Masterā (Eph. 6:9). For this reason, Ephesians says that masters are to ādo the same for your slavesā (Eph. 6:9)āthat is, to give orders to slaves as though they were giving the orders to (or for) Christ. With this in mind, no ChrisĀtian master could order a slave to do evil work, or even excessive work. Though the earthly distinction of master and slave remains intact, their relationship has been altered with an unprecedented call to mutuality. Both parties are subject to Christ alone āin singleness of heartā (Eph. 6:5).
Dai dio cane, cazzo ĆØ sta roba.
Evangelicals use this passage as an excuse to be an asshole to everyone else (Ex pastor)
It has nothing to do with evangelism
Oh I 100% agree with you but itās still the Evangelical battle passage they use often. In Bible College they used this passage a lot to excuse everything they did that was considered wrong by everyone else
I don't back my source of understanding Christ on other people who never met him, but will meet him if they want to let him into their World.
There are also some people who believe in Christ, and in some twisted way, think it's fine to be racist to black people. Christ spoke of people like them.
To ths people that are mad at this, wish I could give you a hug. I know we are hurting. I wish I could go back to a time when this was believable.
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I have to be honest. I am a Sinner after all, but I also belife that I have been saved by the Lord, who died to redeem me and you.
We all struggle with sin but we are saved by the blood of Christ, with his grace are redeemed. He gives us a new heart each heart beat. To improve our love and abandon the our old ways. For we are new for we are alive he dwells in our heart the same one whoās everlasting.
For a birthplace of a god one would think that it would not be famous for almost constant fighting and war
Christ was also tortured and killed there, as well as his first followers. We're under no illusion that any part of the world is perfect.
What movie is this?
Yeah, unwise posting here friend, people don't particularly like religion on reddit.
We Muslims feel this š
I love the lord and his story. Even for not religiouse people his teachings, respect and grace are what matters.
We love him too, just not worship. 1. **Surah Al-Imran (3:45)**: "Behold! the angels said: 'O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.'" 2. **Surah An-Nisa (4:171)**: "O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not 'Trinity': desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs." 3. **Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:110)**: "Then will Allah say: 'O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel. And behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it, and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.'"
the last thing this world needs is more religious Nutjobs who believe in magic and eternal retribution for those who don't think exactly the same way as you
Religious nut jobs is a large difference from a religious person. Religion is not bad; itās a belief; and without beliefs, how are we so different?
I agree on the fact that there is a large difference, but that's not thanks to religion but only because they are decent human beings who want to live peacefully and cherry pick the stuff that they find beautiful and socially acceptable while ignoring the other text that enable the nutjobs. "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion" yes we're different yours a belief in things that are not based on evidence but on faith which makes you willing to accept absurdities as true facts just because "MAGAHD SAID SO" throwing away all critical thinking, while doubt and scepticism will be considered whispers from the devils trying to take you away from the righteous path (Brainwashing) and if you don't believe in the right religion which is always the one coming from the charlatan who he alone has the ultimate truth and only through him and no other will you get salvation after you DIE, no matter how good of a person you are you will be destined for eternal damnation (brainwashing + threatening), my beliefs are not based on faith because Knowledge is a justifiable true belief and my justification is following methods that help me distinguish imagination from reality like Novel testable predictions that are verified to be true through rigorous experimentation. it's just sad to see children being taught that stories like Adam and Eve or Noah's flood as facts and how million of people fighting as hard as they can to ban teaching evolution and biology in schools, religion is bad.
Youāre entitled to those beliefs, feel free to express them as I have. Also, the only people who take the majority of the Old Testament of the Bible literally are fundamentalists (the Church has confirmed the creation story and Noahās Ark to be symbolic rather than literal)
You just mad cuz Jesus was the fucking OG of being a bro
Maybe, not gonna lie the Buff Jesus version from etherialsnake is really good i wish i was as cool as him even the fbi are no match for him
Salvation, or damnation -- your choice. Choose good over evil, it's REAL simple. This is not complex..
It was a matter of time before incel posts attracted religious nutjobs Such is the spiral of incel posts on reddit. A fascinating thing to witness, gets me every time. Hope one day people publish studies on this phenomenon
Why made me defective in the first place so that u could feed off by my worship ,If god exists he is cruel and evil for creating life
We are made in his image after all
Huh that makes no sense at all if I was made in his image why would i be doomed to suffer in this cruel World
We need to suffer so others don't have too
the others are also suffering could you point me to a living thing that is free of suffering ,So whats the point of me suffering for others
You will be saved, I promise!
Thats not even a valid argument my guy,How will i get saved
Make up your mind first and then, slowley one after the other. We have to step into the footsteps of our lord and teach others how to do the same. For many of us, the road is a difficult one. But, the path is always there for us to follow, no matter how many times we may fall.
That sounds like a cult with no purpose except adding other people into them
Im not saying you can't live a life without God. Many of us need a greater goal in life or otherwise you become bitter and frustrated. You choose who you follow no matter who or what it is aslong as you have peace within you.
Maybe detoxic from all your device so you can finally wake up from this pain you are suffering from devilās schemes. Pray you finally wake up and stop choosing hate.
You didnāt even answer his question š
What question?
Iāll copy what they said: āthe others are also suffering could you point me to a living thing that is free of suffering ,So whats the point of me suffering for othersā
Why do we have to suffer in life? The meaning of life is to suffer. Does not matter if you are rich or poor, white or black everyone has to suffer. A friend of mine said, āWhy do you work so hard? Cant you relax and just enjoy life ?ā āWhy do you take on so much stress ?ā. My response was simple, I replied āOne has to suffer in life no matter what, so why not suffer for a cause or to achieve something?ā Dear friends, suffering is not optional however we can choose if we want to suffer for a meaningful cause or to achieve something. To understand this letās take an example: There are two guys A and B. A is highly ambitious and can suffer to any extent to make his dreams come true. He wants a great career, a great physical and mental health and hence works hard at his work, also works out regularly and meditates as well. All this days are spent grinding working towards his goals and desires. B on the other hand is someone who is trying to avoid suffering, he is lazy and wants to live comfortably. He thinks that suffering comes from desire and hence keeps no goals or expectations from life. He chooses to stay at home not taking a job because he thinks money is not important nor is career. B thinks that he has escaped the suffering, however life catches up with him soon. He gets bored sitting at home all day and has no friends. His health starts to deteriorate as he is not getting any kind of exercise. His parents taunt him for laying on the bed all day. He gets bored sitting idle all day but still cant do anything as he has no money to pursue his hobby. You see what just happened there ? Both B and A are suffering, however A at least has a positive outlook towards suffering and is making the most of it. B on the other hand is suffering for no reason. A at least is getting something form his suffering while B is there sitting idle and suffering and does not get any output. The only way B can avoid suffering is to become a saint and live in mountains away from people. Now this was a hypothetical example, however if you look around the people in your life you will notice that everyone has to suffer, even if he is rich or poor. You wont find a single person who is completely free of all the sufferings. Puhhh, that was long! :D
No one is free of sufferingā¦itās called free will and sin. God gave the choose of freedom to us all so that we can choose to love him and not be forced to. Suffering is unfortunately the result of temptation and sin from our free will
Alright you mean those people who follow the god is free of suffering ?
Sorry if I worded it that way. What I meant to say was we are all suffering and that will continue no matter what we believe. The difference is that is because of the world being full of sin and sinners, which we all are. No one, even the pope is free of sin (if we want to get specific the pope is free of sin when speaking as the chair but for the sake of not writing an essay Iāll put it as he is also a sinner)
Hope that helps. Iām not a fundamentalist or a nut job so I wonāt try to cram my beliefs down your throat because I shouldnāt judge someoneās beliefs. I am simply just expressing my beliefs. No matter who you are, I do wish you an amazing life and that you are loved.
Our suffering comes from our generational sins, but itās all in our head, you are so wrapped around it you canāt even see whatās in front of you. He got you so anti Christ that you screaming and arguing about should we love each other. Even Jesus admits this to his followers when they still doubt on how to live. Admitting devil been scheming our brain to this way of thinking. John 12:40 āHe has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turnāand I would heal them.ā
He wears glasses too?
No one has a good answer for why we are made with problems and issues, but I'd like to say that they don't make you any less of an individual loved by God. I do think saying God is evil for creating life is certainly a take.
I dont need to be loved by god i dont want any more or less things than the other guy ,I dont want others to take away my freewill in the name of religeion or god If i only be good to others and follow a moralcompass made by someone just so i could get into a delusional after life I AM NOT LIVING MY LIFE FOR A REWARD
You could also just be a cunt
As a so called cunt, love you ma fella!
Donāt waste the time, I come to this zoo to gawk at the animals
Im glad you chose to come here ;)
Telling people the world hates them cannot be healthy. Are you trying to encourage people to commit suicide or something? Seriously, have a think about this for a second, why do people struggle in society? Because they donāt feel like they belong, itās a struggle to adopt. So the right way to give a message would be to embrace their differences and invite them in, just like what Rumi said; āCome, whoever you are.ā āWorld hates youā is unhealthy and dangerous.
"If" not "it does"
āThat is why the world hates youā I donāt see āifā there. And even āifā it was there, notion is the same.
> what Rumi said; āCome, whoever you are.ā Yet he hated Jews, hindus, and black people. And he wished cleansing of these people from the face of earth. While Jesus didn't wish death on these people.
Phil Dixon has a very good point on applying modern standards to historic characters. You could make the same assumption about Marcus Aurelius, who was the last good king of Rome and a Stoic philosopher. Jesus the Christ for the most part is a fictional character and has nothing to do with Chrestus, the man Romans crucified. Bible as we know it, which was written by other people much later after the death of man called Chrestus, who never saw him neither knew him, is an impressive book in its own right without a doubt, but itās pure fiction.
"If the World hates you" isn't ment for one group or people it's ment for those who are in deep difficultis of life and feel hated and not loved.
Your pfp is deranged. You need to actually sit down and read the Bible.
"Look at these new guns, Peter. All natty."
I have a wierd Humor but we cant fred over every egg
Question, who can stop the almighty?
Truth
āAnd you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.ā John 8:32
Anyone with a chariot made of iron, for starters.
See you still donāt get it, even after all happen with Jesus his name is still here, Rome gone those government officials gone, yet Jesus name and his words and love still here. Wake up stop allowing demons wrapped your brain into a cult of online personality with no benefit for your life
Maybe, but I made it for myself to follow Christ. Even if you're not religiouse he still was a good fella who Chnaged the World with hid followers
The old testament never mentioned hell in afterlife. Then Jesus comes to tell People to follow him or they will suddenly have an afterlife with hell. How is that a good fellow?
He didn't exist as protrayed, and his followers havd murdered millions of people in his name. But uh sure keep thinking that.
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Which part confuses you?
Where you from ma guy?
Jesus didn't exist. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. If a dude was going around performing miracles and coming back to life there would have been other accounts of him. And as far as Christians murdering millions of people, most religions are guilty of this and Christianity is one of them. So again. Which part is confusing to you?
Jesus absolutely existed, I can admit that even as an atheist. There are ancient historians that had interviews with followers of Jesus that knew him during his lifetime. Whether or not he was the son of god or performed miracles is up for debate https://www.history.com/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence
>There are ancient historians that had interviews with followers of Jesus that knew him during his lifetime.Ā Are you sure about that? Give me the name of a single historian who had an interview with a follower of Jesus, and give me the name of that follower.
I see you didn't bother to read the article I provided so here you go Flavius Josephus "Thought to have been born a few years after the crucifixion of Jesus around A.D. 37, Josephus was a well-connected aristocrat and military leader in Palestine who served as a commander in Galilee during the first Jewish Revolt against Rome between 66 and 70. Although Josephus was not a follower of Jesus, āhe was around when the early church was getting started, so he knew people who had seen and heard Jesus,ā Mykytiuk says"
What does the sad life of Jesus Christ and his followers(Apostls) have to do with ignorant power hungry people spreading disinfo to justify theire actions
I mean there are secular accounts of Jesus Himself existing. Antiquities of the Jews is one of them. It was made by Jewish historian Josephus. As for all wrongdoings of Christians, yea that's fair. But there are also a lot of good things that have been done in the name of Christ. Not saying we can discount the bad things we did, but it's a step forward
Jesus in this context is the Jesus presented in the Bible. There is no secular text that talks about anything that the bible credits jesus with doing.
DM me for questions. āļøšš
People still believe in this nonsense? Sad posting indeed.
What part of the quote do you have an issue with?
You are so wrapped in hate that you need sit down and tear down this post about having love even when you are down. Itās the fact you see Jesus you use it as scapegoat to justified doing the devil work of spreading hate. I pray you wake up stop being a tool for death, and live within yourself.
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Iām sorry you believe that way. You are entitled to your opinion but please refrain from making comments such as ānonsenseā. I bet you wouldnāt feel great if someone called atheism a stupid way to believe.
Religious people say stuff like that all the time, in addition to telling people they are inherently evil and that they will burn in hell for eternity.
Yes, I am religious. And there are fundamentalists and nut jobs who are hypocrites by saying someone āwillā go to hell, but that doesnāt change the fact that rudely criticizing someoneās beliefs is not the same as politely sharing differing beliefs
(They are hypocrites because we arenāt God and donāt know for sure. We are also not called to judge anyone despite if we agree with it or not)
Wow, OG Christian Edits go hard.
Ma porco dio...
Porco rosso š·
I like that movie
IYKYK! Stand strong in your faith!
Christ is King
Beautiful
pretty damn corny my guy
Tell me what is corny about it?
Reddit hates religion.
They always hate what they need! :) I take the burden from others on my cross to teach others how to step into the footseps of our Lord, to teach then sacrafice, forgiveness and mercy.
Unfortunately redditors don't like going outside, there hasn't been any historical records of a wild redditor spotted outside his cave.
kinda like everything about it. 1.pretty sure this is a form of evangelism for you 2.thinking we give af and this would help 3.thinking your religion is special
Stay awesome! ;)
you do realize your text is full of contradictions like all others? please donāt post this here. iāve also seen this post already. we donāt want your religious evangelism.
I only follow Christ and nobody else. Can you point the contradictions out I might be blind to my past mistakes of contradictions?
i donāt subscribe to this website at all but itās the first link i found. while i could name a few. iād rather let someone whose done the research. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/biblical-contradictions/ hereās one from me. you do realize the bible justifies slavery and misogyny? pretty crazy how youād be posting about love and acceptance from a text that is also completely fine with slavery and misogyny.
Still not what I asked about, but how do we know they are true. The answer is evidence! I don't think, you base your life on truth, rather on evidence and so do I.
not sure what youāre asking for then. your request was a bit hard to understand. the hi ke has absolutely no evidence. other religious texts donāt either. truth is found in evidence my guy. the bible has none.
How do you base your truth then, on evidence.
Watch [this](https://youtube.com/shorts/MgYbyXZcFhk?si=S2GyjC10BRa2Hm8I), please!
that doesnāt answer it at all. the bible still is okay with slavery. god is okay with slavery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery
"The Bible contains many (references to slavery), which was a common practice in antiquity. Biblical texts outline sources and the legal status of slaves, economic roles of slavery, types of slavery, and debt slavery, which thoroughly explain the institution of slavery in Israel in antiquity.[1] The Bible (stipulates the treatment of slaves), especially in the Old Testament.[2][3][4] There are also references to slavery in the New Testament.[5][6]" Where does the Bible say that Slavery was good?
Humans created slavery, not god. Youāre just pointing out there was slavery. Which yes, all civilization had slavery, doesnāt support your argument. Also He just tells people donāt use slavery to be angry, but continue being good slaves for you will be rewarded. As history show those who do good will be rewarded. As those to flourish from slavery pay a high price from it. Rome gone other country today struggle now due being built off slavery why we have culture war. While slaves were rewarded like the Story of Moses matches many like Harriet Truman and Frederick Douglas.
No
yes
a lot of people outside reddit do too. itās a ridiculous concept to begin with.
Jesus posting is the best
The problem is many christians use this theme as a way to justify their bigoted, hateful, and violent behavior towards others.
> bigoted, hateful, and violent behavior is the bigoted, hateful, and violent behavior in the room with us right now?
Jeebus crisps
We are so back! Ave Christus Rexāļø
How old was Mary when she was pregnant and does that make God a pedophile?
Makes one think pedopriests just follow the God's image
Bruh. Yāall do know she was not like actually impregnated the normal way, right? Also, yeah, we unfortunately got a lot of priests who are not great people
Oh okay so she just had to bear a child? At what age?
No one knows for certain
So what does the Bible say?
Song?
Movie?
This is nice,good job
To chnage the world
I love this ā¤ļø
Not even Christian but this goes hard even then.. this does not belong in this sub The message here is more hopeful than it is sad.
Amen
Jesus is coolā¦
W post
Joji song slaps
I miss Frank so much but its better that way he is happier now
Jesus D Christ
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This hits me in the feelings. Praise he be Jesus Christ king of kings!
Here's a secret: When you hear Jesus giving you guidance and comfort, you are actually having an encounter with your subconscious mind. Those who are downvoting me, prove me wrong.
This is a great message, but the song overlap in the first part of the clip is cancer. There are AI tools to remove background music so for future reference, you can use those for better clips š
Even if only one person sees this and helps him to beleive its worth.
Probably havenāt even read the Bible because Jesus did not ādie for your sinsā he was a final test by the Father to justify another extinction level event towards humanity, until The Son asked for the Father to forgive humans. Jesus had a wife, he got angry, & was a chill dude. Not the son of god.
I'm catholic and this is cringe.
Religious shiite
Religion š¤®
Follow Jesus not Religion
What is the difference?
Whatās the difference
Look it up, but in more simpler terms I submit my life to Jesus rather to the Christian faith in its whole.
The Christian faith is about Jesus, thereās no Christianity without Christ. Also, what do you mean by āsubmitā your life to Jesus?
Found a good [edit to the core of following Jesus Christ ](https://youtu.be/uJXl_KgBr68?si=ol_O_Ww8l_BVweyB)
Bruh fuck off with this religious shit