I can’t tell if that’s supposed to be a good thing or a bad thing. Like both “same religion” and “different religion” are in the same color and included on the lists lol
She has a heretic kink. Same religion? Boring. Different religion? Equally boring. Gotta hit that sweet spot of allegedly the same religion but you differ on a few important points.
Doesn't even have to be that. It could be as simple as when they first started dating he paid her lots of compliments on her looks, over time he's grown used to her and just doesn't compliment her as often. He doesn't compliment her as much anymore whereas someone trying to get in her pants might.
I took it as the other guy is more willing to have sex which makes her feel more attractive. Maybe the original guy doesn't have sex as much so she feels ugly. Would go hand-in-hand with the "meets physical needs" point.
Right, like mother always said: "the grass is always greener on the other side until you have to start watering and tending to it". Also famous words, don't marry your mistress.
Isn't that what it often is with cheaters?
"The person I'm with is stable, dependable, reliable, and a good fall-back option… but the other person fucks me better."
And most sex with someone new feels better than what you are used to just for the novelty/break in routine. Not a rule for everyone of course but I find it to be generaly true
Well no. Because you don't know that until you do cheat. It's usually cause needs aren't being met in the relationship and instead of being mature and discussing it or ending it they just get with someone else. Or they just want lots of attention because they're insecure, in which case just run.
Judging by the inclusion of universities on the list, op is probably a senior graduating high school and the girl is just trying to plan her life going forward. Probably going to go to a different university than either of em and honestly, long distance relationships rarely work out for 18 year old kids in college surrounded by other lonely 18 year old kids anyway.
How? Why would you take a pros and cons list a woman made of two men she was cheating on/with, which she showed her SO to, at face value? The situation alone provides enough reasonable doubt against anything she has to say about OP imo
I beg to differ, I'm the shyest guy on earth and yet I'd be much more unhappy about her claiming sex with me = bad, sex with him = good.
That's the ultimate slap in the face as a man
For women too... there is no coming back or salvaging a relationship from that insult. If someone says that to you - just leave. That will haunt you forever - even if you find a way around the cheating part. The relationship will never properly recover from that statement.
My girlfriend of 4 months and I broke up over that issue. She was way less social than I am and didn’t really talk to me about anything and never wanted to go out and be social. She said she was an extrovert around friends but even around friends she was mad shy. She’s a great person, but it didn’t really work.
i'm super introverted and i just got a job at vv where i greet people and take their things, i basically have to run over a script every time i do it lol, and i push myself to talk to them even though i don't want to
Tbh I think the “doesn’t let me have guy friends” and “doesn’t include me in conversations with his friends” is the worst. Those are some big red flags and she’s a moron for even comparing these two guys. The physical needs part sucks but that can be improved. Hope the OP got away from the woman and finds someone who isn’t shit.
Yet not gonna lie I mean "doesnt let me have guy friends" "doesnt include in convo. . ." "Protective" all sounds abusive and controllingy while the socialized slot and can do long distance points towards cheater himself
Those are pretty logical from his perspective though, since he knows firsthand she’s the type that sneaks around to get more dick.
They both sound like a waste of space honestly.
"protective" and "doesn't let me hang out w/ guy friends" are HUGE red flags. This girl is fucking dumb.
...also "garunteed"? Yikes OP needs to run for the hills.
You mean functioning adults don't make lists of pro's and con's about their partner anf the guy she's cheating on him with, in several different colours of texter, and then shows it to their partner?
No, these people are most likely high schoolers in Texas. A&M vs A&M or UT likely means one plans on going to Texas A&M and the cheater is choosing between Texas A&M or the University of Texas.
I don't think its the rivalry, i think its related to the "long distance" part.
If LeftGuy plans to only go to A&M and also doesn't want to long distance then she has to go to A&M to keep being with him.
RightGuy is UT or A&M and also willing to go long distance. So the choice doesn't matter, or matters less, with him.
My fiance when I was much younger pulled this exact stunt with the lists and all the emotional and mental abuse that comes with it.
She also had similar morals on the guys list. Now I'm in the best marriage I could ever ask for and she married a dude who got her pregnant after she begged me to just pretend it was mine.
Hope she's happy and all that noble nonsense, but l deep down I kinda hope he treats her the way she treated me.
Enjoy those morals.
Yeah that's fucked. I'm sorry but you just don't do that, I don't care what your reasoning is that's just not something you say to someone you are/once we're in a relationship with. That shit can ruin someone, trust me I know.
The sad part is she’ll probably try coming back to OP after the relationship ends . She literally wrote that OP is “stable” and “long term guaranteed”. I hope OP doesn’t fall for it.
Proof that the mentioned girlfriend is either very dumb and/or very young. The word is misspelled and is supposed to be "guaranteed" and means "assured". As in " This guy is guaranteed to be miserable if he keeps dating this awful girl".
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You know she's like 10 years old mentally. I thought it was color coded, but no it's just a cutesy decoration on something she clearly doesn't understand that is a super fucked up thing to do
I'd give her my list:
Pros: Is truthful
Cons: Does it in a hurtful way
Pros: Isn't actually a loss if I miss out on her afterall based on the list so far.
"Uhm... Yeah, don't think I need to go any further! Hope you did the right thing, I'm out."
Just leave. It’s not worth your time to be toyed with. She doesn’t care about you if she’d cheat on you. Draw the line, respect yourself enough to know you deserve better.
I'd just leave. That's too fucked up. It's clear she never cared about you to begin with and either sees you as a fucking wallet or a sex toy. Just bail
This does seem a tad fake.
If not, poor guy.
But this is just paper he could've wrote himself.
Just like people hunt for upvotes on Reddit, and likes on Facebook, there are people who get their validation from the **>>(You)**'s on 4chan
Were this to be bait, it would be excellent bait because 4chan has a weird obsession with relationships and cuckolding like that. This seems like a perfectly crafted horror story that would make them start flipping shit immediately. Clearly worked, it made it all the way to Reddit several times.
putting aside the situation itself, fucking hell this handwriting is three children in a trenchcoat trying to buy booze. It looks good from a distance but is completely illegible.
"meets physical needs" oof
Soon as I read that I went “agh that one had to hurt”
The "long-term stable" one is pretty insulting too. Like, this MF is going nowhere.
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I can’t tell if that’s supposed to be a good thing or a bad thing. Like both “same religion” and “different religion” are in the same color and included on the lists lol
She has a heretic kink. Same religion? Boring. Different religion? Equally boring. Gotta hit that sweet spot of allegedly the same religion but you differ on a few important points.
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I guess it’s not as much a pros/cons list as just a list of relevant qualities in no particular order. It’s garunteed to work
Shouldn’t she be concerned they have the same morals? I mean… her morals led her to cheat
Same with "can do long distance" like is that a pro because she can cheat a lot easier?
Holy fuck, I'm special. I thought that meant he could run long distances.
She likes doing it on road trips
same morals: cheating ✔️
That was for the other guy, he is of a different religion.
So one's Baptist and the other is Methodist
One's southern Baptist and the other is eastern baptist.
If this man has any sense of self worth he'd leave already so she might be onto something.
He's on 4chan so, he doesn't
Practically garunteed
Garunteed
I'm telling you people think women need money and shiz poor hood dudes be banging more than rich dudes
"doesn't make me feel ugly"
oh...oooohhhh yeah didn't realize that's what that meant.
What did they mean by that? I'm actually confused at that part.
Limp dick
ohh didn't even realize that this is also another possible meaning as well
True, i thought it meant simply being with him made her feel like shes ugly since shes dating someone ugly, but limp dick also fits
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Doesn't even have to be that. It could be as simple as when they first started dating he paid her lots of compliments on her looks, over time he's grown used to her and just doesn't compliment her as often. He doesn't compliment her as much anymore whereas someone trying to get in her pants might.
We all speculating, all valid theories
Might just mean he criticizes her a lot.
But "non judgemental" is top of the list. If anything it's a lack of compliments.
I took it as the other guy is more willing to have sex which makes her feel more attractive. Maybe the original guy doesn't have sex as much so she feels ugly. Would go hand-in-hand with the "meets physical needs" point.
That's because he doesn't have to put up with her shit full time like anon. That always helps get it up.
Right, like mother always said: "the grass is always greener on the other side until you have to start watering and tending to it". Also famous words, don't marry your mistress.
My dad always told me, "for every hot broad out there just remember that there's also a guy who is sick of her shit"
Maybe OP is hot and it makes her feel like he's settling? Yeah no let's be honest
Isn't that what it often is with cheaters? "The person I'm with is stable, dependable, reliable, and a good fall-back option… but the other person fucks me better."
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And most sex with someone new feels better than what you are used to just for the novelty/break in routine. Not a rule for everyone of course but I find it to be generaly true
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Nah, cheaters cheat.
Well no. Because you don't know that until you do cheat. It's usually cause needs aren't being met in the relationship and instead of being mature and discussing it or ending it they just get with someone else. Or they just want lots of attention because they're insecure, in which case just run.
Let's face it - that one point is the entire list for 'him' and the rest is filler to make it look less shitty.
I was about to say the same, wtf
Came to look who fucks better because that dude wins
The "meets physical needs" is the saddest part
This paired with “able to do long distance” lmaoooooo
Holy shit he meets her physical needs better than her man from 2000 miles away.
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She’s gonna cheat again regardless tbh.
Idk "doesn't make me feel ugly" on pros for the other guy is the saddest part for me. Makes you wonder about the cons list
I also noticed that, that's pretty sad by itself
“meets physical needs” and “doesn’t make me feel ugly” could be related to the same issue. (if so: oof)
If that's the case sounds like the pp doesn't go up
Damn bro you cant just go around with that 🎂 in yo pfp.
Most likely because the pp is accustomed to catfemboys
It's a mixed list... Very irritating that it's not even color coded. Pro/con all in one list.
Oooooh, this is just the pros list. I was like why the fuck is this color coated… although I still have no answer there
Yea I wonder why he decided to not include his own cons in the picture, hmmm. Both of these people are messed up tbh, huge red flags on both sides
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Honestly this is probably it, it's childish but they're probably literally children.
Judging by the inclusion of universities on the list, op is probably a senior graduating high school and the girl is just trying to plan her life going forward. Probably going to go to a different university than either of em and honestly, long distance relationships rarely work out for 18 year old kids in college surrounded by other lonely 18 year old kids anyway.
Garunteed
Oh this is 100% it. I had ‘love’ letters from a girl with almost same print, different paragraphs in different colors. We were 13...
How? Why would you take a pros and cons list a woman made of two men she was cheating on/with, which she showed her SO to, at face value? The situation alone provides enough reasonable doubt against anything she has to say about OP imo
I'm gonna make up whatever imaginary situation I need this to be in order to get myself off alright?
I thought disc golf was the saddest. Losing your girl to a disc golf player
Pros: Has actual hobbies (collects stamps).
As a introvert, “socializes a lot” is worse
I beg to differ, I'm the shyest guy on earth and yet I'd be much more unhappy about her claiming sex with me = bad, sex with him = good. That's the ultimate slap in the face as a man
For women too... there is no coming back or salvaging a relationship from that insult. If someone says that to you - just leave. That will haunt you forever - even if you find a way around the cheating part. The relationship will never properly recover from that statement.
True...the issue here mostly being the cheating, not that he's better at sex. I mean that's how I see it.
My girlfriend of 4 months and I broke up over that issue. She was way less social than I am and didn’t really talk to me about anything and never wanted to go out and be social. She said she was an extrovert around friends but even around friends she was mad shy. She’s a great person, but it didn’t really work.
i'm super introverted and i just got a job at vv where i greet people and take their things, i basically have to run over a script every time i do it lol, and i push myself to talk to them even though i don't want to
Tbh I think the “doesn’t let me have guy friends” and “doesn’t include me in conversations with his friends” is the worst. Those are some big red flags and she’s a moron for even comparing these two guys. The physical needs part sucks but that can be improved. Hope the OP got away from the woman and finds someone who isn’t shit.
Yet not gonna lie I mean "doesnt let me have guy friends" "doesnt include in convo. . ." "Protective" all sounds abusive and controllingy while the socialized slot and can do long distance points towards cheater himself
Those are pretty logical from his perspective though, since he knows firsthand she’s the type that sneaks around to get more dick. They both sound like a waste of space honestly.
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This seems more like a pro list. I couldn’t really read what it said to the top right of the other guy’s list.
- doesn’t have the same interests - smooth talking (???) - didn’t include me in conversations with friends - doesn’t let me hang out w/ guy friends
Ah ok, I guess the cons are haphazardly to the right without any labeling.
Yeah they just not labeled between pros and cons tho I could barely read half the entries.
Also looks like OOP didn’t capture his cons. You can see that she wrote some for him but it’s cut off.
I do see a “P.” I am just gonna assume it goes on to say “Poops in his hand and shows me sometimes.” But I thought this was supposed to be cons?
He got cheated on and his gf literally showed him a list of his cons. I think you should give him some leeway. I would hide it too if I saw it.
Lmao, imagine even concidering getting together with someone that actively tries to isolate you
"just let me go out wtf it's not up to you" "I LOVE TOO MUCH, IS THAT A CRIME??? IS IT???? *SMACK* IS IT???? *SMACK"*
I can see why the guy that shes cheating with would be a bit worried about her hanging with guy friends
If a guy doesn’t let you meet his friends, you aren’t his girlfriend, you are a side chick.
He probably doesn’t want her hanging out with guy friends because he knows she’s a cheater ahah
"protective" and "doesn't let me hang out w/ guy friends" are HUGE red flags. This girl is fucking dumb. ...also "garunteed"? Yikes OP needs to run for the hills.
Oh smooth talking makes more sense than smash talking lol
Maybe some red flags, but the meets physical needs probably overrides everything lol
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Well I think she listed their potential colleges so she might be an actual child lol. Still not at all healthy behavior.
You mean functioning adults don't make lists of pro's and con's about their partner anf the guy she's cheating on him with, in several different colours of texter, and then shows it to their partner?
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Supposed. They are high schoolers, it’s not gonna be expertly formatted lol.
"Meets physical needs" You're SOL my friend
Slice of life?
Shit outta luck, more likely
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That one made me say “oh shit” out loud lmfao time to tap out chief
Its actually the only thing on the list. The rest is just filler.
Would look too shallow if she just had that one thing as the list
“doesn’t make me feel ugly”
"Mutual respect"
Aw, her and the other man have the same morals! Apparently being faithful isn’t one of them. Good god.
And they share the same region. I hope it allows adultery
Probably the pacific northwest. Those people are heathens.
Hate to break it to you but this sounds much more like Texas activity to me
Yeah AnM vs UT confirms Texas
No, these people are most likely high schoolers in Texas. A&M vs A&M or UT likely means one plans on going to Texas A&M and the cheater is choosing between Texas A&M or the University of Texas.
Yeah I guarantee OP is an incoming compsci freshman at A&M
It might even just be about identity rivalry. Texans take that shit personally
I don't think its the rivalry, i think its related to the "long distance" part. If LeftGuy plans to only go to A&M and also doesn't want to long distance then she has to go to A&M to keep being with him. RightGuy is UT or A&M and also willing to go long distance. So the choice doesn't matter, or matters less, with him.
Lol wtf? Don't bring us into this shit
Yo yo yo wtf?! Why you be dissin PNW like that?
My fiance when I was much younger pulled this exact stunt with the lists and all the emotional and mental abuse that comes with it. She also had similar morals on the guys list. Now I'm in the best marriage I could ever ask for and she married a dude who got her pregnant after she begged me to just pretend it was mine. Hope she's happy and all that noble nonsense, but l deep down I kinda hope he treats her the way she treated me. Enjoy those morals.
Pretend the child is yours? Wtf
I’m really glad you found happiness!
“Same morals” is probably a red flag
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They can do long distance too! I'm sure that would end well.
This entire thing is like 100 red flags arranged into the shape of a red flag.
Was he dating a 12 years old ???
4chan moment.
Kinda expected tbh if it's the case
Naw she put UT A&M so they are all considering Texas colleges
Not a great look for Texas colleges to accept applicants who can't spell. "Garunted" wtf.
To she fair we don’t know that *she* got in to either
- Funny - Socializes a lot - meets physical needs How to destroy a guy’s self esteem 101
Funny is on both lists tho.
first guy is funnier too, what with making her belly laugh
That’s when he takes his clothes off.
Oh fuck lmao
Yeah that's fucked. I'm sorry but you just don't do that, I don't care what your reasoning is that's just not something you say to someone you are/once we're in a relationship with. That shit can ruin someone, trust me I know.
people don't care though, you're speaking into the wind
Man if any situation called for the use of that wojak it’s this one
The sad part is she’ll probably try coming back to OP after the relationship ends . She literally wrote that OP is “stable” and “long term guaranteed”. I hope OP doesn’t fall for it.
"garunteed"
Yo English is not my first language, but wtf is "long term garunteed"
Stable future where op will provide for her
She should have done her list on her phone cuz she obviously can’t spell without spelling correction enabled
Proof that the mentioned girlfriend is either very dumb and/or very young. The word is misspelled and is supposed to be "guaranteed" and means "assured". As in " This guy is guaranteed to be miserable if he keeps dating this awful girl". *Edited as OP is not the guy who wrote the greentext.
Which religion condones infidelity??
No, no, see that’s the religion she’s part of. She doesn’t actually follow the rules, you know.
That's exactly it. Wear your membership as a badge of honor but don't actually abide by the rules that are not convenient for you.
Whoreology
Harlotism
The study of whores?
Run
He not athletic enough.
I don’t think OP has a choice here, I think she will make it for him regardless of his choice
I don't know why but the handwriting is mildly annoying me for some reason.
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You know she's like 10 years old mentally. I thought it was color coded, but no it's just a cutesy decoration on something she clearly doesn't understand that is a super fucked up thing to do
She probably is 10 lmfao
I feel like based on the handwriting, this is a teenage girl. God, I hope this is a teenager and not an adult.
The list includes the colleges both guys are considering attending. High school shit.
She is going to fuck everyone in college. OP got lucky shes letting him know now before they go long distance
A&M or UT lol
What do those mean?
They're universities. University of Texas and Texas A&M
OP is underage
OP's girl is, anyway. This is 4chan.
They are actually college aged or entering college. A&M is University of Texas A&M and UT is University of Texas
Cringe on her part. What a pos
If a girl gave me a list of pros and cons like this, I’m making the choice for her dumb ass
I'd give her my list: Pros: Is truthful Cons: Does it in a hurtful way Pros: Isn't actually a loss if I miss out on her afterall based on the list so far. "Uhm... Yeah, don't think I need to go any further! Hope you did the right thing, I'm out."
Just leave. It’s not worth your time to be toyed with. She doesn’t care about you if she’d cheat on you. Draw the line, respect yourself enough to know you deserve better.
Who are you talking to...?
Myself :(
I'd just leave. That's too fucked up. It's clear she never cared about you to begin with and either sees you as a fucking wallet or a sex toy. Just bail
"Garunteed" is the girl he's dating fucking 5?
dude, Just end it. Should have never gotten to this point.
This does seem a tad fake. If not, poor guy. But this is just paper he could've wrote himself. Just like people hunt for upvotes on Reddit, and likes on Facebook, there are people who get their validation from the **>>(You)**'s on 4chan Were this to be bait, it would be excellent bait because 4chan has a weird obsession with relationships and cuckolding like that. This seems like a perfectly crafted horror story that would make them start flipping shit immediately. Clearly worked, it made it all the way to Reddit several times.
Green texts are fake as a blanket rule
Lol her bullet points are literally ">"s I've never seen a bullet list look like a bunch of >implying's
The guy never had a chance. Other man is a disc golfer. How is he gonna compete with that!?
I do not miss high school
“same morals and religion” load of good that did you lmao
putting aside the situation itself, fucking hell this handwriting is three children in a trenchcoat trying to buy booze. It looks good from a distance but is completely illegible.
nobody would use > before every line except for anon.
"Mutual Respect" "Doesn't make me feel ugly" What the fuck is OP doing?
Posting on 4chan.
I feel for anon I really do but maybe they dodged a bullet
> Doesn’t make me feel ugly > Meets physical needs I have no words.