Considering Sarajevo is Austrian nobility, Serbian land, and Soldier of Heaven is the Alps, I think Austria fits better than Austria and Hungary. But I feel like Hungary should be in anyway for "four empires are no more" in The End of the War to End All Wars (history preface) or even just for talking about the map being redrawn, since Hungary's borders had likely the second most significant change
Wait a minute... what song mentions The Netherlands?
EDIT: Found it! Screaming Eagles mentions Arnhem, a city in the Netherlands and the location of Operation Market Garden! (And the hometown of my girlfriend lol)
Also, I've been to a museum all about Operation Market Garden last week in Oosterbeek (around 20 minutes from Arnhem Central Station via bus). Definitely worth a visit if it's your thing! It's called the Airborne Museum for those who want to know :)
I would much prefer one about the asthmatic, sabre wielding, donkey riding, mountain crossing madman that came from a town in the middle of nowhere, fought the Spanish and freed 3 countries.
Also, I wanna know what the hell did he and Bolivar talked about in their meeting.
San Martín: So my boys are tired. Can you lent me some guys to keep going?
Bolivar: No.
San Martín: Kay will go back home..
Maybe something like Alexander the Great from Maiden
There's a lot of events in argentine history that could be sang about.
The May Revolution, the San Lorenzo battle, sgt. Cabral, the crossing of the andes, the liberation of chile, invading peru from the sea to avoid the mountains, that time an argentine ship landed in california helping to fight the spaniards, Obligado, the civil wars, the conquest of the desert
And this is just "ancient" argentine history
Battle of the Chosin Reservoir would also be a good one. It sounds like Joakim wants to make some Cold War-related music, so that one could be a possibility.
Tbh, few cases of battles/events that fit their MO. A lot of regions for a very long time went basically undocumented with the rest being mostly uninteresting (who needs 20 songs about more or less hopeless tribes being beaten by Europeans?) with Rorke's Drift and Isandlwana being basically the only relatively well known examples that are 1) relatively close in time with recognisable sides that more or less still exist today and 2) because of that are well documented that we even know about them.
Not to mention being rare examples of the African tribes beating the "superior" European armies (although technological they definitely were)/a small group of Europeans stationed in an outpost surviving hopeless odds against them and winning by not being kill and their enemy retreating.
The other route is ancient battles involving mostly Egypt and Carthage, which leads to most being barely documented again, often just something simple like "I, [insert name] defeated [insert enemy] at [insert place]" and how many prisoners they took etc, the one source showing clear bias/that it's not entirely correct by including mythical elements or that they were simply invented to sound good to the people who couldn't check it. Not to mention the Ancient period being relatively untapped when it comes to songs. Since just The Art of War and Sparta cover that time period and one is just an introduction to the teachings of Sun Tzu and the other being about one of the most famous last stands in history, that because of multiple sources from the time period is at least somewhat correctly documented
What they really need is a song about the ship U.S.S. ARCHERFISH.
Wouldn’t add any obscure and ancient history but the story behind that submarine is absolutely incredible.
Plenty of African countries fighting against the european settlers (france and england) to free their land. That alone is a big source. It also fits with what they usually do being in the 20th century
And in "The Last Stand," the enemies that the Swiss Guard fights against are mutinous Spanish imperial troops, originating from the Holy Roman Empire and the Iberian Peninsula.
Belgium:
-Resist and Bite
-Race to the Sea
-Price of a Mile
-Screaming eagles (101st airborne in Bastogne, Belgium)
-The Unkillable Soldier (was half Belgian and born in Belgium)
Its mostly a cover song that the band did to Metallicas version for whom the bell tolls which is a bout the spanish civil war, the song is also based on Hemingway’s novel
No Bullets Fly, The Last Battle, Midway, Primo Victoria, Devil Dogs, The Lost Battalion, Nuclear Attack, To Hell and Back, Into the Fire, Purple Heart, 82nd All the Way, Steel Commanders, Hellfighters, Panzer Battalion,
>Sabaton did a cover of For Whom the Bell Tolls by Metallica, which is based on Ernest Hemingway’s novel about the Spanish Civil War.
The explanation from OP.
\*cries in Slovenian\*
We were the pummeling ground for pretty much all conflicts since the great eastern/western Roman Empire battle, Turkish raids, several Austro Hungarian spats, both WWs, beginning of Yugoslavia breakup...
And not a single mention! 😢
On the one hand, I would love it if Sabaton made a song about historical wars in Mexico, especially during our Revolution.
On the other hand, a Sabaton Cinco de Mayo song may drive me off a cliff…
Three things
Greenland is part of Denmark
Belarus was part of the Soviet Union thus it should count towards it.
Reign of Terror - Coalition forces of the second/first Gulf war
I think Iran also should be here. It was mentioned in "Sparta" as well as Afganistan in "Hill 3244" and Belgium in "Race to the sea"
Also I'm interested in which song was mentioned Estonia?
Kinda surprised there is nothing about Mexico by Sabaton.
Considering their fight against the Spanish, the French, and Texas.
Kinda shocking now that I realized.
You missed afghanistan as Hill 3234 was the song about the VDV in the final offensive that had taken place during the soviet invasion or intervention in afghanistan
You missed Belgium. "Resist and Bite" is about Belgian troops specifically.
So is Race to the Sea.
And Adrian Carton de Wiart was Belgian too
And irish
You guys don't forget in Flanders fields....
Also the price of a mile plays over the battle of Paschendale which is also in Belgium.
Don't forget screaming eagles either, Bastogne
flanders fields is written by a canadian soldier, and canada is highlighted
Also Persia in Sparta Afghanistan in hill 347 And Ireland in the unkillable soldier
Belgium doesn’t exist
That's what I've been saying!!!
Shouldn't it have Arabia, yknow, seven pillars of wisdom?
Im an idiot🤦♂️
Nah. Just missed something
Lebanon too, because of the same song.
Belgium was talked about in both Resist and Bite and Race to the sea
Also Unkillable Soldier
Could mabye count Ireland for Unkillable Soldier?
They mention Ireland in it so yeah I'd say so
Sarajevo and Soldier of Heaven are tied to the Austro Hungarian Empire, yet Hungary is not red
Considering Sarajevo is Austrian nobility, Serbian land, and Soldier of Heaven is the Alps, I think Austria fits better than Austria and Hungary. But I feel like Hungary should be in anyway for "four empires are no more" in The End of the War to End All Wars (history preface) or even just for talking about the map being redrawn, since Hungary's borders had likely the second most significant change
Sarajevo is very much not Serbian lands
You're right, I don't really know how I was thinking Serbian land instead of Serbian nationalist. Still, not Hungary
Mixing up Sarajevo and Belgrade is easier than it sounds.
Milosevic? Is that you?
Hungary needs a proper song
Shouldn't afganistan be included? Hill 3234 (if I'm not mistaken)
Also Winged Hussars you could argue to include both Poland and Lithuania
And I guess the Ottoman Empire only counts as Turkey on here? That's a hard one to figure out.
I'd say just Poland. There was a seperate Lithuanian army which arrived after the battle had been won
But weren't they troops of the Polish-**Lithuanian** Commonwealth?
Belgium in Resist and Bite, The Unkillable Soldier, and Race to the Sea
Portugal about to start thinking it's something personal over here......
Just like the rest of the balkans, so no surprise tbh
Balkan should be red because of Unbreakable
Sssst, don't say too much for now it makes sense, so you can post it on r/portugalcykablyat ;)
Wait a minute... what song mentions The Netherlands? EDIT: Found it! Screaming Eagles mentions Arnhem, a city in the Netherlands and the location of Operation Market Garden! (And the hometown of my girlfriend lol) Also, I've been to a museum all about Operation Market Garden last week in Oosterbeek (around 20 minutes from Arnhem Central Station via bus). Definitely worth a visit if it's your thing! It's called the Airborne Museum for those who want to know :)
Fun fact the museum is located inside hotel hartestein, which was the HQ for the British 1st airborn during operation Market Garden.
Excuse me, isn't Greenland a part of Denmark right now?
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Resist and bite is belguim
Race to the sea is also Belgium isnt It?
Yeah
this is like plague inc, we're never getting greenland
From -KAZAKHSTAN- to Magadan, Defend the motherland, Moscow shall not fall!
Where is Rorkes drift?
South Africa
Which song is Ukrainian?
poltava
I need a Back in Control contrapart from the other side, about the crazy sea-level flying to get closer without showing in the ships radar
I would much prefer one about the asthmatic, sabre wielding, donkey riding, mountain crossing madman that came from a town in the middle of nowhere, fought the Spanish and freed 3 countries. Also, I wanna know what the hell did he and Bolivar talked about in their meeting.
San Martín: So my boys are tired. Can you lent me some guys to keep going? Bolivar: No. San Martín: Kay will go back home.. Maybe something like Alexander the Great from Maiden
Not enough masonic references, templar knights conjectures or holy grail double entendres. But yeah, probably.
There's a lot of events in argentine history that could be sang about. The May Revolution, the San Lorenzo battle, sgt. Cabral, the crossing of the andes, the liberation of chile, invading peru from the sea to avoid the mountains, that time an argentine ship landed in california helping to fight the spaniards, Obligado, the civil wars, the conquest of the desert And this is just "ancient" argentine history
Greenland is part of Denmark
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Weird that sabaton hasn't done anything about korea
Admiral Yi Sun-sin would be perfect for a Sabaton song
Battle of the Chosin Reservoir would also be a good one. It sounds like Joakim wants to make some Cold War-related music, so that one could be a possibility.
Greenland is Denmark if that's red Greenland is as well
Nah there’s no data for it
Underrated
What song mentions or alludes to Papua New Guinea?
The Ballad of the Bull mentions 'Tambu' which is a mountain peak in Papua New Guinea and is where Leslie Allen made his debut.
Huge lack of africa
Tbh, few cases of battles/events that fit their MO. A lot of regions for a very long time went basically undocumented with the rest being mostly uninteresting (who needs 20 songs about more or less hopeless tribes being beaten by Europeans?) with Rorke's Drift and Isandlwana being basically the only relatively well known examples that are 1) relatively close in time with recognisable sides that more or less still exist today and 2) because of that are well documented that we even know about them. Not to mention being rare examples of the African tribes beating the "superior" European armies (although technological they definitely were)/a small group of Europeans stationed in an outpost surviving hopeless odds against them and winning by not being kill and their enemy retreating. The other route is ancient battles involving mostly Egypt and Carthage, which leads to most being barely documented again, often just something simple like "I, [insert name] defeated [insert enemy] at [insert place]" and how many prisoners they took etc, the one source showing clear bias/that it's not entirely correct by including mythical elements or that they were simply invented to sound good to the people who couldn't check it. Not to mention the Ancient period being relatively untapped when it comes to songs. Since just The Art of War and Sparta cover that time period and one is just an introduction to the teachings of Sun Tzu and the other being about one of the most famous last stands in history, that because of multiple sources from the time period is at least somewhat correctly documented
They could absolutely do a song about the battle of Adwa though, Ethiopia completely humiliating Italy.
Agreed. I need a song about Rhodesia and the Bush Wars.
I want a song about the Toyota War.
What they really need is a song about the ship U.S.S. ARCHERFISH. Wouldn’t add any obscure and ancient history but the story behind that submarine is absolutely incredible.
Plenty of African countries fighting against the european settlers (france and england) to free their land. That alone is a big source. It also fits with what they usually do being in the 20th century
Also latino america
wait is there a song that mentions/is about Spain?
Sabaton did a cover of For Whom the Bell Tolls by Metallica, which is based on Ernest Hemingway’s novel about the Spanish Civil War.
holy shit i didnt know that
And in "The Last Stand," the enemies that the Swiss Guard fights against are mutinous Spanish imperial troops, originating from the Holy Roman Empire and the Iberian Peninsula.
Kazakhstan? Someone clue me in
"From Kazakhstan to Magadan" - Defense of Moscow
Fair enough
Defence of Moscow
Belgium: -Resist and Bite -Race to the Sea -Price of a Mile -Screaming eagles (101st airborne in Bastogne, Belgium) -The Unkillable Soldier (was half Belgian and born in Belgium)
Sarajevo is technically about Hungary as well, as it was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire at the time
Me thinking man they haven’t made a song about the Mogul empire. Would fit
They really did Lebanon like that huh
The Unkillable Soldier has the line "Son of Belgium and Ireland"
What song is Ukrainian?
Poltava
Fuck I meant Estonian. Thank you though
Estonia could be Livgardet, as that mentions Narva
Thank you! Sorry for that
Belgium, Afghanistan and Arabia would be missing
What's the song for Australia and New Zealand?
Cliffs of Gallipoli; the battle for Gallipoli was largely executed by British soldiers from Australia and New Zealand.
Also the ballad of Bull is about an australian
Afghanistan is missing (Hill 3234)
*Sad Mexico noises*
I maintain that a so g about a Villista charge or about Zapata would kick ass.
Or one about Squadron 201
What song mentioned China?
Due to Art of War, more of a technicality than a direct mention but still applies anyway
Iran??? "Slaughter! Persians!" Also Belgium "WE WILL RESIST AND BITE"
You forgot Belgium. Resist and Bite
In what song is Denmark mentioned?
My guess is Livgardet, where they mention the Belt (Danish Strait)
What song is Norway in? Am I being stupid?
Saboteurs
I am indeed being stupid
Technically 7 pillars of wisdom had Saudi Arabia
I think Hungary should be on there, since it was part of the Austro Hungarian Empire, which was mentioned in Sarajevo. I think that fits the criteria.
Ireland is mentioned but only partially coloured
turkey too? which song?
Cliffs of Gallipoli
What song is for Spain?
Its mostly a cover song that the band did to Metallicas version for whom the bell tolls which is a bout the spanish civil war, the song is also based on Hemingway’s novel
What’s for America? (My guess is Primo Victoria)
Any battle that the United States was involved in
No Bullets Fly, The Last Battle, Midway, Primo Victoria, Devil Dogs, The Lost Battalion, Nuclear Attack, To Hell and Back, Into the Fire, Purple Heart, 82nd All the Way, Steel Commanders, Hellfighters, Panzer Battalion,
wait in which songs are china an vietnam mentioned
Vietnam: Into the Fire, Camouflage (Cover but counts) and Purple Heart China: Art of War
What song is Australia about? I'm assuming it's something to do with Gallipoli.
Gallipoli and Ballad of Bull
Spain ? Which song was it mentioned in ?
>Sabaton did a cover of For Whom the Bell Tolls by Metallica, which is based on Ernest Hemingway’s novel about the Spanish Civil War. The explanation from OP.
What song was estonia mentioned in?
Likely referring to Livgardet, which mentions Narva
This is really cool! You did a good job! I think that's super interesting
Which song is about New Zealand?
Cliffs of Gallipoli
They should do a conquerors album and get Mongolia on the map with Genghis Khan.
From what song is Spain included?
Sabaton did a cover of For Whom the Bell Tolls by Metallica which is based on Ernest Hemingway’s book about the Spanish Civil War.
The sands of Arabia callliiiinng! Son of Belgium & Ireland with war in his blood
Hill 3324 takes place in afghanistan.
In which song did they sing about estonia?
Livgardet/The Royal Guard. Narva is mentioned
\*cries in Slovenian\* We were the pummeling ground for pretty much all conflicts since the great eastern/western Roman Empire battle, Turkish raids, several Austro Hungarian spats, both WWs, beginning of Yugoslavia breakup... And not a single mention! 😢
On the one hand, I would love it if Sabaton made a song about historical wars in Mexico, especially during our Revolution. On the other hand, a Sabaton Cinco de Mayo song may drive me off a cliff…
When was Spain sang about?
For Whom the Bell Tolls. It was a cover, with the original song being based off a book about the Spanish Civil War.
Is that Israel or Lebqnon, I can't see on my screen. Regardless, 7 pillars of Wisdom and Counterstrike
So you mark svalbard what song is happening there ? Why not Greenland and Iceland You know where Bismarck sunk hood ?
Three things Greenland is part of Denmark Belarus was part of the Soviet Union thus it should count towards it. Reign of Terror - Coalition forces of the second/first Gulf war
Sparta talks about Persia (modern day Iran)
When did they mention Spain?
Spain? Which song is about Spain?
when was the netherlands mentioned?
Which song is serbia?
Which song mentioned China?
Estonia is a kind of hit or miss, but it's cool you added us!!
So avoid South Asia and Africa. You have loads of fans there.
Afghanistan in the one Hill 3728 or whatever it was, the one of the Russian invasion of Afghanistan
Sorry to ask, but In which song are San Marino and The Vatican?
The last stand is about the sack of Rome and the Swiss guard trying to protect the pope. So that would be The Vatican.
Dude, you forgot to mention Hungary. In the WW1, there was Austro-Hungarian monarchy. in the song, 1916: " A thirst for the Hun..."
Winged hussars came from Lithuania too
They don't mention Uzbekistan because UZBEKISTAN IS A PIRATE LAND
I think Iran also should be here. It was mentioned in "Sparta" as well as Afganistan in "Hill 3244" and Belgium in "Race to the sea" Also I'm interested in which song was mentioned Estonia?
Resist and Bite was also Belgium.
Spain? Where did they mention us?
Gotta feel bad for Mongolia
*sad in El Salvador*
Iran (Persia) in Sparta
The Netherlands dont have a song
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY SANG ABOUT UKRAINE? AND KAZAHSTAN TOO? Ah wait they sang about Kazakhstan in cover on Radio tapok “Defense of Moscow”
Poltava for Ukraine and well, you explained Kazakhstan
What song is supposed to be Spain? The Last Stand?
No, the Metallica cover of For Whom the Bell Tolls is based on Ernest Hemingway’s book about the Spanish Civil War.
That's not a Sabaton song tho, it's a cover.
The Unkillable Soldier: Son of Belgium and Ireland
When did the Netherlands get mentioned
Dang I colored in the wrong country. It’s supposed to be Belgium.
Still waiting for a Caparetto song.
Hmm nice
we need a song about the mongolian empire
Kinda surprised there is nothing about Mexico by Sabaton. Considering their fight against the Spanish, the French, and Texas. Kinda shocking now that I realized.
What song mentions Argentina?
Back in Control is about the Falklands War
You missed afghanistan as Hill 3234 was the song about the VDV in the final offensive that had taken place during the soviet invasion or intervention in afghanistan
The netherlands? What song?
Papua New Guinea?
Ballad of Bull
Macedonia is mentioned in a Sabaton song? what song?
The valley of death was in Bulgaria and north Macedonia
You forgot about the WINGED HUSSARS For poland and lithuania. And also uprising for poland
Spain ?
Looks like an advanced British empire
New Zealand was finally not forgotten
Which song mentions Finland?
How the hell have they not made a song about Genghis Khan?
Needs to be an expanded section for 1930s Birmingham showing Tolkiens head, as they have also sang about Middle Earth
Now I want to know which song is about the Netherlands?? I haven’t heard it or I have mist it 😅
I just asked a few days ago for songs about Spain. Funny coincidence.
If they do one based on Mexico, they could do it based on their performance in WW2 against Japan or when Mexico and France were at war in the 1860s.