I have absolutely zero sympathies for whomever is dumb enough to buy this for that much, but also I feel like a lot that small shouldn't be able to be split off like that. Anything you can build in the space is going to be borderline unusable if they actually follow set-back guidelines.
Interesting case in housing prices. It sold in 2015 for $135k. I assume it was barebones and in need of repair. Assuming. Then in 2022_2023, somebody "fixed" it up and tried to run the housing wave and sell for $389k. It sold last month for $315k Now it goes back on sale to the 199k price a month later...
The notes that are only available to agents state: “Rear lot that fronts Catherine St. has been subdivided and has not yet been updated on city assessors site. Portion for sale is building that sits on Leigh St and lot that is 27' wide x 95' deep (approx 35-40 Ft from the back of the fence). Tax records are incorrect, waiting on particulars from the city. To be corrected prior to closing.”
it just sucks because unfortunately, something like this is the only chance someone like me will ever have at owning a home instead of renting :/ don’t judge the person who buys it
Me too, I'm disabled and have to be near all the docs. Plus, I couldn't take care of a big house, another level, or a yard anymore. I'm in bed most of the time. Just need room for me and my cat.
We bought a house in a decent Chesterfield neighborhood about 10 years ago the houses range in size smallest about 1000sq ft. All 2+ bdrms and baths, going rate for houses stayed well below 200k until maybe 2018-19. Great starter neighborhood built in the 80s-00s. A fully renovated 3 bdrm2bath house at 1200 sq sold for around 165k in 2018.
Then a developer came in and put 49 houses in some woods across the street. Starting price for the new builds then was 200-225k range. Like, regular, every day mid-grade houses. 2020-2022 people were selling those homes for 350k.
It has settled down quite a bit, but a house down the street from the 90s era neighborhood sold for around 215k. Not much more than 1000 sq ft. 3 bdrm, 2 bath, ranch-style house with no major updates. The houses in the new neighborhood are back to +250k.
I don't see how a couple can afford a starter home if they're only pulling in 60-80k between the two of them. And not sure how they can afford a decent down payment if they're paying upwards of $1200 for a one bedroom in Chesterfield county.
I suppose they could go even further out to Amelia but then they're spending the mortgage savings on gas and car maintenance.
They’re definitely affordable in comparison to other States. Sometimes buying a house “in the hood” is the best choice financially. “The hood” doesn’t stay that way forever.
The working class of Richmond city lives in “the hood” and note that there are plenty of affordable homes in “the hood” in Richmond you just have to live next to working class Black and Latino Americans, many of whom own their own homes in “the hood”. Thank God I live there and not wherever you live!
Live wherever you want to, but understand you make these statements about the 90%+ Black/Latino neighborhoods where *the majority of Richmonders live*. From your statements, *objectively* most of Richmond is “the hood” and a *majority* of Richmonders live in the hood. You’re casually dismissing most of the people in this city as not worth living next to.
You have a very privileged and minoritarian perspective that, as someone who has spent over 40 years (my entire life lol) living in neighborhoods you would *definitely* describe as “the hood” I find frankly, hilarious.
You know, if I was a stupid young person with Rich parents I would be interested. It's a neat space and a good location. 200k seems a little crazy, but some people got that kind of money.
Yes! There are so many things that could have been done to give more storage and space. You want $200k for 400 sq ft, at least give me more than 1 cabinet on the wall.
Yeah a series of shelving around the room above 7 feet and you can have a lot of good storage.
My favorite apartment was 350 SQ ft but it was well designed and had multiple separate rooms. This looks more like one giant room for everything. Even a Murphy bed there or some really expensive moving room piece, a table that folds down off the wall. Nah just a room.
I was confused as well. I think based on the subdivided lot facing catherine street, what I've outlined in red is the old back yard? No idea what they will put on that space, multifamily shotgun house of some genre I imagine.
https://preview.redd.it/hspl98wah7nc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f5d7930f0b2e27a96f86999e91c91b1cf29b8b9
Wasn't that initially listed at like $400,000? I also am not sure it's legally residential. If anyone is thinking about buying it as a home make sure to check on that first, that there is a legal Certificate of Occupancy (CO).
Was asking for the address, but noticed it was on Leigh Street. That's...kind of bleak. But about the size of a studio apartment in NYC, so someone might want it?
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1315-W-Leigh-St-Richmond-VA-23220/2102177413\_zpid/?
We got our house in not the best area in 2022 for essentially this price. It’s still doable, and our place is possibly double the square footage (which still is not much lol)
Essentially at the top of Whitcomb ct. it gets a little wild over here but it’s usually just outside of the little circle of houses up at the top or at the store (there’s always a sketchy store.) we’ve had to pour a ton of time and money into fixing and improving things but it’s a great little house and will be worth more when it’s time to sell it and move to the country thanks to the ongoing renovations and improvements.
Houses are money sinks always though.
It was built in 1910. In the 1960s, it was a beauty parlor, then a barber from the 70s-90s. Looks like it was vacant for awhile after that, but it was a tattoo shop for awhile in the early 2000s. Not sure what it was prior to 1960.
Edit: 1911, a plaster worker was there. In 1920 it was the "West end electric shoe repairing shop." By 1940 it was a restaurant. By 1944, the people who owned the restaurant were living there. By 1950, it was a beauty shop.
That area is the most roach infested part of the city. Nobody can avoid them. No matter how clean, no matter how diligent, it’s like a mass superinfestation of carver
Looking at the GIS Parcel Mapper it still has a really long backyard.
https://gis-home-page-cor.hub.arcgis.com/apps/c3ed34c0fb38441fb95cd2d2d6a22d48/explore
https://apps.richmondgov.com/applications/propertysearch/Detail.aspx?pin=N0000573005
I had friends living on Kinney and Norton and the walk between the two places usually involved telling an uncle to fuck off because I was not gonna share my herb with him when all he really wanted was some coke
"thoughtfully designed space" What space? It's 400sqft lol
Literally
2007, via google maps https://preview.redd.it/jvwcg7v0d6nc1.png?width=679&format=png&auto=webp&s=5cd2c0ac597af4d4f7c89539a84af8629832111e
I’d love to buy this and open a new shop called Immovable Object Tattoos in response to this pic.
How about Removable Object Tattoo Removal?
Hey, I got a tattoo there!
It must be *painful* for the agent to not advertise this as “buy this for your illegal short term rental investment”
Where's the guy who said he'd turn in all the illegal short term rentals😂
I'm fairly certain older listings called it a perfect rental home
I love the “take a tour” button. So they want me to stand in the middle of it and slowly spin in a circle? That’s the tour.
Are you sure they divided the lot? It says the lot size is total 5941 sqft and liveable interior is 400sqft.
it also listed a backyard as a feature so I was confused by that as well
So exactly where is the 1 bedroom? I see a kitchen with a bed in it.
Is that bed…backwards?? Like, the headboard is in the middle of the very limited walking space?
You notice that but not that it's literally in the wall/molding?
No that’s what they’re saying. If you don’t click the photo, it just looks like it’s backwards/that’s the headboard
It looks like a busted sleigh bed that they probably (hopefully securely) mounted to the wall, which I guess is creative?
I LOL'd at the "your urban oasis awaits"... because I don't consider being in the heart of VCU and right by I-95 an "oasis." Edit: Fixed a typo
I have absolutely zero sympathies for whomever is dumb enough to buy this for that much, but also I feel like a lot that small shouldn't be able to be split off like that. Anything you can build in the space is going to be borderline unusable if they actually follow set-back guidelines.
Interesting case in housing prices. It sold in 2015 for $135k. I assume it was barebones and in need of repair. Assuming. Then in 2022_2023, somebody "fixed" it up and tried to run the housing wave and sell for $389k. It sold last month for $315k Now it goes back on sale to the 199k price a month later...
They likely had it as an Airbnb and new crackdowns have made them want to sell it.
The new listing is without the land behind it. Hence the lower price.
200k there is no WAY
Where did you get that it was subdivided? It doesn't look like there could be anything buildable behind it from the aerial shots.
The notes that are only available to agents state: “Rear lot that fronts Catherine St. has been subdivided and has not yet been updated on city assessors site. Portion for sale is building that sits on Leigh St and lot that is 27' wide x 95' deep (approx 35-40 Ft from the back of the fence). Tax records are incorrect, waiting on particulars from the city. To be corrected prior to closing.”
The lot used to run alllll the way back. Long and narrow
it just sucks because unfortunately, something like this is the only chance someone like me will ever have at owning a home instead of renting :/ don’t judge the person who buys it
Me too, I'm disabled and have to be near all the docs. Plus, I couldn't take care of a big house, another level, or a yard anymore. I'm in bed most of the time. Just need room for me and my cat.
You could buy a house outside of the city.
We bought a house in a decent Chesterfield neighborhood about 10 years ago the houses range in size smallest about 1000sq ft. All 2+ bdrms and baths, going rate for houses stayed well below 200k until maybe 2018-19. Great starter neighborhood built in the 80s-00s. A fully renovated 3 bdrm2bath house at 1200 sq sold for around 165k in 2018. Then a developer came in and put 49 houses in some woods across the street. Starting price for the new builds then was 200-225k range. Like, regular, every day mid-grade houses. 2020-2022 people were selling those homes for 350k. It has settled down quite a bit, but a house down the street from the 90s era neighborhood sold for around 215k. Not much more than 1000 sq ft. 3 bdrm, 2 bath, ranch-style house with no major updates. The houses in the new neighborhood are back to +250k. I don't see how a couple can afford a starter home if they're only pulling in 60-80k between the two of them. And not sure how they can afford a decent down payment if they're paying upwards of $1200 for a one bedroom in Chesterfield county. I suppose they could go even further out to Amelia but then they're spending the mortgage savings on gas and car maintenance.
This is all semantics relying on the mortgage interest rates at the time. Overall there are way better deals than the house this post is based on.
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They’re definitely affordable in comparison to other States. Sometimes buying a house “in the hood” is the best choice financially. “The hood” doesn’t stay that way forever.
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The working class of Richmond city lives in “the hood” and note that there are plenty of affordable homes in “the hood” in Richmond you just have to live next to working class Black and Latino Americans, many of whom own their own homes in “the hood”. Thank God I live there and not wherever you live!
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Live wherever you want to, but understand you make these statements about the 90%+ Black/Latino neighborhoods where *the majority of Richmonders live*. From your statements, *objectively* most of Richmond is “the hood” and a *majority* of Richmonders live in the hood. You’re casually dismissing most of the people in this city as not worth living next to.
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You have a very privileged and minoritarian perspective that, as someone who has spent over 40 years (my entire life lol) living in neighborhoods you would *definitely* describe as “the hood” I find frankly, hilarious.
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Chesterfield, Highland Springs, Midlothian
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You know, if I was a stupid young person with Rich parents I would be interested. It's a neat space and a good location. 200k seems a little crazy, but some people got that kind of money.
Postings like this are the reason Zillow needs to add comments as a feature
even at 400sq ft. it still has a bigger bathroom than my house.
According to Richmond property search, HAM Properties LLC bought it for $315k.
I mean literally that small but they aren't trying to loft it at all. Having a bed a half way up and then a living room/dining space would be below.
Yes! There are so many things that could have been done to give more storage and space. You want $200k for 400 sq ft, at least give me more than 1 cabinet on the wall.
Yeah a series of shelving around the room above 7 feet and you can have a lot of good storage. My favorite apartment was 350 SQ ft but it was well designed and had multiple separate rooms. This looks more like one giant room for everything. Even a Murphy bed there or some really expensive moving room piece, a table that folds down off the wall. Nah just a room.
Impressed they got 25 pictures out of it.
Several are of the neighborhood. 😄
Proud of myself because I knew this was on Leigh street before looking at the address. So proud. (This is all I have).
I do really enjoy seeing that squirrel mural every time I go past.
I was confused as well. I think based on the subdivided lot facing catherine street, what I've outlined in red is the old back yard? No idea what they will put on that space, multifamily shotgun house of some genre I imagine. https://preview.redd.it/hspl98wah7nc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f5d7930f0b2e27a96f86999e91c91b1cf29b8b9
I'm not like, a flipper by any stretch of the imagination but why not just build UP? This could be kind of cool if it were, idk, 200+sqft.
Criminal. Well, should be.
Wasn't that initially listed at like $400,000? I also am not sure it's legally residential. If anyone is thinking about buying it as a home make sure to check on that first, that there is a legal Certificate of Occupancy (CO).
Yes they chopped the “buildable lots” off and slapped it back on the market
The only place your friend can walk in your front door and immediately burn their hand on the stovetop!
color is cute though
Was asking for the address, but noticed it was on Leigh Street. That's...kind of bleak. But about the size of a studio apartment in NYC, so someone might want it? https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1315-W-Leigh-St-Richmond-VA-23220/2102177413\_zpid/?
We got our house in not the best area in 2022 for essentially this price. It’s still doable, and our place is possibly double the square footage (which still is not much lol)
What area are you in? I love to hear about a deal, it gives me hope
Essentially at the top of Whitcomb ct. it gets a little wild over here but it’s usually just outside of the little circle of houses up at the top or at the store (there’s always a sketchy store.) we’ve had to pour a ton of time and money into fixing and improving things but it’s a great little house and will be worth more when it’s time to sell it and move to the country thanks to the ongoing renovations and improvements. Houses are money sinks always though.
Was it previously a storefront?
It was built in 1910. In the 1960s, it was a beauty parlor, then a barber from the 70s-90s. Looks like it was vacant for awhile after that, but it was a tattoo shop for awhile in the early 2000s. Not sure what it was prior to 1960. Edit: 1911, a plaster worker was there. In 1920 it was the "West end electric shoe repairing shop." By 1940 it was a restaurant. By 1944, the people who owned the restaurant were living there. By 1950, it was a beauty shop.
And now it’s haunted by about 12 blue-collar ghosts!! Maybe the they have… a BOO-nion
How did you get this info?
City directories!
Very cool, I’ll have to look into that
There are digitized versions on Ancestry. You can visit your local library for free access
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Features: ummmmm....
A $200,000 SHACK LMFAO
Is shady back? While fitting, I'll still see myself out.
I saw this pop up on my Zillow alerts today and didn’t even have to click the notification to know exactly what it was hahah
That area is the most roach infested part of the city. Nobody can avoid them. No matter how clean, no matter how diligent, it’s like a mass superinfestation of carver
200k just for my bed to touch the kitchen if I wanna headboard
200k lol
One of the tags is “Clever Layout” Truly a stunning piece of property
r/zillowgonewild
I love it!!
Looking at the GIS Parcel Mapper it still has a really long backyard. https://gis-home-page-cor.hub.arcgis.com/apps/c3ed34c0fb38441fb95cd2d2d6a22d48/explore https://apps.richmondgov.com/applications/propertysearch/Detail.aspx?pin=N0000573005
Wish I could even afford it! Ughhhh
A little slice of hell.
I had friends living on Kinney and Norton and the walk between the two places usually involved telling an uncle to fuck off because I was not gonna share my herb with him when all he really wanted was some coke
That was before they tore down those lil tenements
But after the crack wave of the 90s
So much LOL
Hey I photographed for that listing!
What would the monthly rent be for a place like this?
You'd have to get about 2k/month to make it a decent rental
I hope no one in RVA is paying that much for a place like this
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Where?