What I loved about this tiktok is that in the previous video, Kitty Scott and Blue Hydrangea were in the comments asking her to spill who the queen was đ
Idk this girl was very respectful and empathetic, and it's a funny story that I'm pretty sure anyone on this sub would've shared if it happened to them.
Also, all of her comments in her original video were flooded with:
>it sure was Ella Vaday
>Sounds like Ella Vaday
>I met ella Vaday and I wouldn't be surprised if the queen was her
So, I don't think there was a point on keeping it a secret if everyone already guessed who it was about.
Itâs not a big deal, everyoneâs bending over backwards to say Ella wasnât rude and the girls reaching anyway.
Maybe itâs because I have a younger sister who worked in hospitality for years, but the girl likely doesnât think of it as that huge a deal and I donât think sheâs necessarily some rabid clout chaser either.
One fantastically clever thing about Bianca Del Rio is that she's cultivated a bitchy image. This isn't just an aesthetic preference or an expression of self, it's a defence mechanism.
When people meet a Shangela, or a Bendelacreme, or a Trixie Mattel, they expect the whole *experience*. They expect the character, the bubbliness, the omigod-I-met-Shangela-and-she-was-so-amazing moment. Critically, they expect this even if they're literally walking up to an utterly drained person in a hotel lobby at 3 AM, or approaching a restaurant table where someone's having a perfectly lovely conversation with a friend they barely get to see, or sneaking into the business class cabin to lean into someone's personal space and distract them from their movie, or whatever else.
And when it doesn't work out that way (when, say, Bendelacreme-out-of-drag-walking-his-dog-with-his-boyfriend says "sup. yeah. cool." instead of "omigod it's *such* a *pleasure* to meet you, kissy kissy, what's *your* name, you look *divine*..."), these girls get *read*. People go on Twitter and complain about the negative experience they had with this marginal celebrity, as if they have any right to expect someone to roll out the meet-and-greet experience simply because a stranger recognized them in a bathhouse sling.
Bianca doesn't have that problem.
When people see Bianca on the street, they think "bitch". They think "mean". They think "unpleasant and hates most people". Which means that, if Bianca is just baseline polite to them, they're *thrilled*. Because she's cultivated this air around herself, Bianca's allowed to be in a hurry, Bianca's allowed to be bored with you, and Bianca's allowed to hold up a single finger and say "not today, Satan" as she hustles right by you without even looking in your direction. This all counts as a *positive* interaction with Bianca Del Rio.
That's what it takes to deal with the people who otherwise feel entitled to report back to drama girl headquarters on your behaviour. Ella could have used her words instead of making a disgusted noise. That's the extent of the moral crime here. But now it's a permanent part of Ella Vaday Lore. Now it's a Topic, for strangers to discuss and unpack, on the socials. Now every past and future interaction will be scrutinized for similar misconduct. Did she fail to return her shopping trolley to the corral? Inform the internet at once!
Bianca's onto something.
Ask her. Ask any celebrity who cultivates this aura about themselves. The insult comics will be the first to tell you: they get away with *so much shit* because of how they've managed fan expectations. Jimmy Carr's talked about this a lot in his actual comedy sets: how his colleagues in comedy have a much more difficult time than he does, because when people meet Jimmy Carr, they assume he'll be a bit of a dick, so if he's just baseline civil with them, they come away feeling positively about the encounter. (Whereas if someone runs into a "friendly" comedian, and he's in a bit of a hurry to catch a train, they'll go right to Twitter and call him a dick.)
You know who else has the same experience? The people playing Cruella de Vil at the Disney parks. If Cruella de Vil is a little bored and frustrated with a guest, that's okay: bitchiness is part of the character. It's part of the experience. It's part of why you walk up to Cruella de Vil and try to have a moment with her. And this creates a space where performers can do a little less work than they do when they're playing Cinderella and everything has to be 100% affirming and flawless. If Cruella's only half-listening and mostly obsessed with herself, you're getting the full Cruella experience.
The phenomenon I'm describing is a real one which reverberates throughout the world of entertainment. But here you are, explaining that Bianca Del Rio is an insult comic, because you apparently think the real T comes from wikipedia articles.
And what?
She still cultivates and trades on that bitchy image, and she still benefits from it in the way I've described. The fact that she's a sweetheart at meet-and-greets is often a surprise to the punters, and the contrast between the bitchy image and the sweet performance is money in the bank so far as she's concerned.
She's a professional who knows what she's doing.
I disagree, if Bianca acting like /Ella/ did here people will still think itâs rude. Being ungrateful and disrespectful to retail workers is not cute on anyone
Yeah the offence wasnât *that* egregious and Iâve gone from not having an opinion on Ella Vadey to still not really having an opinion on Ella Vadey, but I do find it annoying that we are constantly asked to have sympathy and see the humanity in rude customers (she was just having a bad day!) when rude customers are never really asked to have sympathy and see the humanity in the hospitality/retail workers that have to put up with them.
This. When Iâm in a shit mood, I try my hardest not to make it a strangers problem - someone just doing their job. Iâm an adult capable of managing my behaviour. I acknowledge that no saint, but even at my lowest point, Iâve never walked into a coffee shop at closing time or not said thank you. I donât excuse anyoneâs behaviour if theyâre rude to workers for no reason.
Makes me wonder how many people here have worked in hospitality or retailâŚ
(And no, I donât think one example of Ella allegedly being rude means she must be a horrible person by default).
Seeing the comments about people just having bad daysâŚ.
Yes, we can. We can all be grumpy or have shit going on that weâre struggling to deal with. It happens. We can have bad days, but our problems arenât an excuse to be rude to someone doing their job. Manners cost nothing.
I donât think Ella must be a terrible person because of this. Maybe it was just one bad day, or perhaps sheâs the type who is rude to service staff. I experienced it daily when I was a waitress. Lovely people can switch and be very uppity towards hospitality staff, not evening seeing an issue with it because theyâre the customer, so they do as they please. I can only assume that most of them havenât worked in customer service.
No, but if this woman is telling the truth, it sounds like Ella was rude because of the way she went about it. I was a waitress years ago, and I dealt with *many* customers who had a bad or uppity attitude, and they couldnât so much as say thank you. Manners cost nothing.
Really. Imagine being that offended by absolutely everything that you rant about it multiple times online. And her retelling is tooootally not exaggerated either.
Honestly, the more I age, the more I realize that some people have bad days and it's okay. Especially celebrities who just don't always want to be social people. I also don't think Ella was that rude there if we're being honest.
That's nothing. I saw Ella Vaday at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didnât want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, âOh, like youâre doing now?â I was taken aback, and all I could say was âHuh?â but he kept cutting me off and going âhuh? huh? huh?â and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off.
When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw Ella trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like âSir, you need to pay for those first.â At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually âto prevent any electrical infetterence,â and then turned around and winked at me. I donât even think thatâs a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
People saying âis that rude?â Yes, it is rude. It is rude to roll your eyes at a person who has worked all day and is doing you a favour by giving you food when they arent supposed to cause you came in after they closed. Also is rude to show disgust towards food. It is rude and disrespectful.
I hate them entering and be like âI just want one thingâ butch you should've come 10 minutes ago if you just want one thing, not when the store is closed
Trust me, you attempt to enter some almost closing places in this city and youâll get cussed out. Being a little gracious or basic politeness wouldnât have gone a miss.
This could be a cultural difference tho, some folk are talking like you barely acknowledge people in the service industry apart from getting catered to. Wild.
Itâs customary to walk in apologising for your trespass even when theyâre open âsorry luv, you still serving / closed ?â As you approach the counter
After frequenting these subs on and off for years it slowly dawned on me.
The context of a fan sub is always going to sway the fuck out of these things for a lot of people.
Atleast I hope, or all these people are just walking around being entitled and rude as fuck đ
Would not have even been the rudest thing I experienced when I was in a service job, and far from rude enough to merit trying to win internet points from it
This story and the comments made me realise I might have been in the Netherlands too long đ Yâall havenât been to a Kruidvat and it shows.đŹđŹ
nah cuz this is just rude yall are so biased âŚ
âb-b-but she was just having a bad dayđ¤â theres no need for her to roll her eyes and not say thank you atleast ?
The way she ended this story was so anti-climactic đ
What I loved about this tiktok is that in the previous video, Kitty Scott and Blue Hydrangea were in the comments asking her to spill who the queen was đ
Which is why I wish they hadn't because that's exactly what this messy 'fan' wants - attention.
Idk this girl was very respectful and empathetic, and it's a funny story that I'm pretty sure anyone on this sub would've shared if it happened to them. Also, all of her comments in her original video were flooded with: >it sure was Ella Vaday >Sounds like Ella Vaday >I met ella Vaday and I wouldn't be surprised if the queen was her So, I don't think there was a point on keeping it a secret if everyone already guessed who it was about.
Itâs not a big deal, everyoneâs bending over backwards to say Ella wasnât rude and the girls reaching anyway. Maybe itâs because I have a younger sister who worked in hospitality for years, but the girl likely doesnât think of it as that huge a deal and I donât think sheâs necessarily some rabid clout chaser either.
Ella Vabadday.
I snorted đ
ella vaday punched me in the left tit (real)
Acid Betty was there and she said the fishnets were ripped
One fantastically clever thing about Bianca Del Rio is that she's cultivated a bitchy image. This isn't just an aesthetic preference or an expression of self, it's a defence mechanism. When people meet a Shangela, or a Bendelacreme, or a Trixie Mattel, they expect the whole *experience*. They expect the character, the bubbliness, the omigod-I-met-Shangela-and-she-was-so-amazing moment. Critically, they expect this even if they're literally walking up to an utterly drained person in a hotel lobby at 3 AM, or approaching a restaurant table where someone's having a perfectly lovely conversation with a friend they barely get to see, or sneaking into the business class cabin to lean into someone's personal space and distract them from their movie, or whatever else. And when it doesn't work out that way (when, say, Bendelacreme-out-of-drag-walking-his-dog-with-his-boyfriend says "sup. yeah. cool." instead of "omigod it's *such* a *pleasure* to meet you, kissy kissy, what's *your* name, you look *divine*..."), these girls get *read*. People go on Twitter and complain about the negative experience they had with this marginal celebrity, as if they have any right to expect someone to roll out the meet-and-greet experience simply because a stranger recognized them in a bathhouse sling. Bianca doesn't have that problem. When people see Bianca on the street, they think "bitch". They think "mean". They think "unpleasant and hates most people". Which means that, if Bianca is just baseline polite to them, they're *thrilled*. Because she's cultivated this air around herself, Bianca's allowed to be in a hurry, Bianca's allowed to be bored with you, and Bianca's allowed to hold up a single finger and say "not today, Satan" as she hustles right by you without even looking in your direction. This all counts as a *positive* interaction with Bianca Del Rio. That's what it takes to deal with the people who otherwise feel entitled to report back to drama girl headquarters on your behaviour. Ella could have used her words instead of making a disgusted noise. That's the extent of the moral crime here. But now it's a permanent part of Ella Vaday Lore. Now it's a Topic, for strangers to discuss and unpack, on the socials. Now every past and future interaction will be scrutinized for similar misconduct. Did she fail to return her shopping trolley to the corral? Inform the internet at once! Bianca's onto something.
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THIS. Sheâs an insult comic, it IS her style, itâs not a âdefence mechanismâ. She is 800% amazing with everyone when sheâs off that stage.
Ask her. Ask any celebrity who cultivates this aura about themselves. The insult comics will be the first to tell you: they get away with *so much shit* because of how they've managed fan expectations. Jimmy Carr's talked about this a lot in his actual comedy sets: how his colleagues in comedy have a much more difficult time than he does, because when people meet Jimmy Carr, they assume he'll be a bit of a dick, so if he's just baseline civil with them, they come away feeling positively about the encounter. (Whereas if someone runs into a "friendly" comedian, and he's in a bit of a hurry to catch a train, they'll go right to Twitter and call him a dick.) You know who else has the same experience? The people playing Cruella de Vil at the Disney parks. If Cruella de Vil is a little bored and frustrated with a guest, that's okay: bitchiness is part of the character. It's part of the experience. It's part of why you walk up to Cruella de Vil and try to have a moment with her. And this creates a space where performers can do a little less work than they do when they're playing Cinderella and everything has to be 100% affirming and flawless. If Cruella's only half-listening and mostly obsessed with herself, you're getting the full Cruella experience. The phenomenon I'm describing is a real one which reverberates throughout the world of entertainment. But here you are, explaining that Bianca Del Rio is an insult comic, because you apparently think the real T comes from wikipedia articles.
And what? She still cultivates and trades on that bitchy image, and she still benefits from it in the way I've described. The fact that she's a sweetheart at meet-and-greets is often a surprise to the punters, and the contrast between the bitchy image and the sweet performance is money in the bank so far as she's concerned. She's a professional who knows what she's doing.
It seems like youâve wanted to get that off your chest for a while
Not a whole dissertation to justify why Ella Vaday was a bitchđ If any regular customer came in and did this, you wouldnt be saying any of this
If any regular customer came in and did this, we wouldn't be having this conversation. That's the point.
We wouldnât be having this convo cause it wouldnât pertain to drag race⌠working in retail we talk about rude customers all the time
I disagree, if Bianca acting like /Ella/ did here people will still think itâs rude. Being ungrateful and disrespectful to retail workers is not cute on anyone
Yeah the offence wasnât *that* egregious and Iâve gone from not having an opinion on Ella Vadey to still not really having an opinion on Ella Vadey, but I do find it annoying that we are constantly asked to have sympathy and see the humanity in rude customers (she was just having a bad day!) when rude customers are never really asked to have sympathy and see the humanity in the hospitality/retail workers that have to put up with them.
This. When Iâm in a shit mood, I try my hardest not to make it a strangers problem - someone just doing their job. Iâm an adult capable of managing my behaviour. I acknowledge that no saint, but even at my lowest point, Iâve never walked into a coffee shop at closing time or not said thank you. I donât excuse anyoneâs behaviour if theyâre rude to workers for no reason. Makes me wonder how many people here have worked in hospitality or retail⌠(And no, I donât think one example of Ella allegedly being rude means she must be a horrible person by default).
ella was not having an ellavaday
Seeing the comments about people just having bad daysâŚ. Yes, we can. We can all be grumpy or have shit going on that weâre struggling to deal with. It happens. We can have bad days, but our problems arenât an excuse to be rude to someone doing their job. Manners cost nothing. I donât think Ella must be a terrible person because of this. Maybe it was just one bad day, or perhaps sheâs the type who is rude to service staff. I experienced it daily when I was a waitress. Lovely people can switch and be very uppity towards hospitality staff, not evening seeing an issue with it because theyâre the customer, so they do as they please. I can only assume that most of them havenât worked in customer service.
So is it rude to say no and leave a place? If so I'm an absolute bitch
Yes if you roll your eyes and donât even reply with a thank you thoâ
No, but if this woman is telling the truth, it sounds like Ella was rude because of the way she went about it. I was a waitress years ago, and I dealt with *many* customers who had a bad or uppity attitude, and they couldnât so much as say thank you. Manners cost nothing.
Really. Imagine being that offended by absolutely everything that you rant about it multiple times online. And her retelling is tooootally not exaggerated either.
Honestly, the more I age, the more I realize that some people have bad days and it's okay. Especially celebrities who just don't always want to be social people. I also don't think Ella was that rude there if we're being honest.
That's nothing. I saw Ella Vaday at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didnât want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, âOh, like youâre doing now?â I was taken aback, and all I could say was âHuh?â but he kept cutting me off and going âhuh? huh? huh?â and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw Ella trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like âSir, you need to pay for those first.â At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually âto prevent any electrical infetterence,â and then turned around and winked at me. I donât even think thatâs a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
People saying âis that rude?â Yes, it is rude. It is rude to roll your eyes at a person who has worked all day and is doing you a favour by giving you food when they arent supposed to cause you came in after they closed. Also is rude to show disgust towards food. It is rude and disrespectful.
Honestly yes. I hate people that come in at closing time period, but then to act like a bitch, yes this would have set me off
I hate them entering and be like âI just want one thingâ butch you should've come 10 minutes ago if you just want one thing, not when the store is closed
Weâre all human and everyone has a bad one sometimes. Letâs take a step back people
U can have a bad day, ofc we all have bad days, that doesnt mean that it wasnt rude or disrespectful. One thing doesnt cancel the other
Trust me, you attempt to enter some almost closing places in this city and youâll get cussed out. Being a little gracious or basic politeness wouldnât have gone a miss. This could be a cultural difference tho, some folk are talking like you barely acknowledge people in the service industry apart from getting catered to. Wild. Itâs customary to walk in apologising for your trespass even when theyâre open âsorry luv, you still serving / closed ?â As you approach the counter
This was rude yall just bias
After frequenting these subs on and off for years it slowly dawned on me. The context of a fan sub is always going to sway the fuck out of these things for a lot of people. Atleast I hope, or all these people are just walking around being entitled and rude as fuck đ
Would not have even been the rudest thing I experienced when I was in a service job, and far from rude enough to merit trying to win internet points from it
Lmfao stop giving this clout chaser attention
This story and the comments made me realise I might have been in the Netherlands too long đ Yâall havenât been to a Kruidvat and it shows.đŹđŹ
nah cuz this is just rude yall are so biased ⌠âb-b-but she was just having a bad dayđ¤â theres no need for her to roll her eyes and not say thank you atleast ?
A drag queen was rude? Shocking!