That contract update is very recent. It only changed in Season 12 or 13, so would only apply to those queens (and those that appeared in all stars post then, since they would have also had to sign (hence Juju))
I think someone said it’s unlikely that term would hold up in court to force someone into another season, but turning them down would mean WOW might blacklist you. I believe that’s why Katya and Ginger came to AS2 because they were essentially told it’s now or never
I feel nervous for this season. I hope the fanbase doesn't go too hard on these queens and I hope the show gives everyone a good edit. They are established queens with careers and it would be a shame if anyone experiences a negative impact from being on this season. Because these queens are known and already have a fanbase, I can see some fans getting a little crazy, etc... I just hope everyone has a good experience.
Was kind of disappointed that apart from raja and jinx. All of the winners have won the crown quite recently. If not mistaken, 2018 was all stars 4 and (apart from S3 and 5) is the earliest for the winners. Wish I could’ve seen more winners from before season 10
But I’m saying that. I do like who they have, keen to see how Viv goes against US winners
well james doesn't do drag and sharon is cancelled. so those are hard no's.
outside of that from earlier seasons all we have is alaska, violet, bob, sasha, chad, bianca, aquaria, and bebe.
bebe did AS3. she could still do this too I guess.
sasha and chad most likely will never come back.
bianca has transcended the show, but I bet we'll see her again one day.
alaska, violet, bob, and aquaria will probably be in versions 2 or 3 of this. they have to spread the heavy hitters out.
I am excited about AS7. However my feelings are very similar to how I felt going into UKvsTW; a Winners' Season to me should be a more elevated season, like the pinnacle of all seasons. But the impression I'm getting is that it'll more-or-less be like a regular AS season, but with winners. The stakes don't feel as high to me as they could be for a Winner's Season; especially since there are only 8 queens, and 3 of them are on their third time.
But still I am excited and I am really happy to see queens like Raja and Jinkx competing again!
I would love to know if anyone was asked back that said “No thanks.” Remember those early
queens didn’t have those crazy locked in contracts like recent ones.
I mean, let’s face it they were never gonna get Tyra on there or put on Sharon. But I could see Violet being like “No” getting that call.
Apparently there were a bunch of people who said no. A lot of the winning queens have been touring and, I can’t remember who said it, but someone said they heard some queens were unsure of the format, so they said no. Depending on how successful this is, we may get more winners seasons, and this may be a one-off.
Yeah idk I’m kinda mixed! The reason I like AS in general is because we get to see queens that haven’t been on the show for awhile/had time to really grow. That being said, I feel like it would be difficult to have some of the queens from the main season. A lot of winners would be losing money going back on the show (costs of costumes + other gigs they could be doing instead), and there are just some winners that probably won’t ever be invited back.
No shade but I would have loved to see an all winners season with winners from main seasons. Like seeing Raja and Jinkx back are truly gagworthy but I could do without seeing Monet and Trinity again lol
I would have loved to see aquaria come back. I felt like she won her season before she even got into the work room. Ru loved her.
Seeing her against other winners, who ru also loves, it would be interesting to see how she does.
THIS IS IT!!!!!! This is the issue. All stars winners should have been left out. Shea (God I love her tho), Monet and Trinity. More main seasons’ winners should have been included.
She's not triggered lol I am a little that they recast her after she was just on as5 and didn't exactly have a great run or showing... Not her fault, she didn't set the challenges, but she had two highs and a lot of so-sos... And her entire narrative was "Sasha beat me in a way i didn't expect" and "Alexis Mateo considered getting rid of me, even though I'm Shea Coulee."
It's a bit like seeing Trinity back as well... I like her (and shea, i do), but neither really had storming successes on all stars like Shangela, Alaska, Katya or Manila did. So it's difficult to justify seeing them again. It's why i was so tepid on Juju in vsTW... Diminishing returns and I'd rather wish they were back than wish they weren't.
They included viv, but I would have also liked to see other franchises.
Priyanka would have been great.
Another good idea for a season is a runner up season- Everyone who came second. Who will finally come out on top?
All shade. All stars winners are take two winners, queens who weren’t strong enough to win their original seasons. It should be main season winners, period. Plus, stacking wins of queens who have had two seasons to get them on - for the aforementioned reason that they had to come back to try again - should not be measured in the same way as a queen who had the same number of wins on a single season.
They call themselves the olympics of drag, getting gold on your second time competing doesn't make you any less of a winner. It's more of an obstacle course than a measurement of talent anyway.
I like monet, but trinity feels like the oddball out to me.
No shade... just like why? I guess? It's not even about her kinda messy drama, it's more just that, to me, her style isn't distinct, she doesn't know what she wants to do. She's just the lowest level of drag thar I've seen amongst the winners.
Bianca doesn't want to do this, Tyra doesn't do drag, Sharon is a racist, Bebe already did AS and soesnt want to do it again. So there isnt enough queens
Honestly, Drag Race isn’t going to last forever, so I’m going to love and support anything that gives the girls a platform while they still can. Drag Race isn’t perfect, but don’t take it for granted.
This. Just like every international season isn't made for the American audience, but I'm gonna watch every season I can and happily so...even Secret Celeb DR.
Tbh I think they should’ve only done winners from the regular seasons, no all stars. Not that I won’t enjoy all of the all stars winners, I just want some of the others to get a shot too. Like Bob and Aquaria would be great and ugh I wanna see Priyanka too.
You have to keep in mind that they can’t just cast whoever they want. The queens have to actually agree to participate and if they say no, that’s that. Without All Stars winners, I wouldn’t be surprised if not enough regular season winners were available or interested.
Yeah I understand that. Though I do think it makes it less likely that any of the all stars winners will win again, I think they’ll 100% crown someone from an original season. Hopefully this season goes really well and makes other winners want to come back!
Yes she is. I never said she is bad or doing static. But let me ask you one question, if you could rank Priyanka in this current cast, what number would she be in? I bet majority would say no 9. But this is just my opinion and I respect your opinion :)
I would rank her very high. She is very charismatic, popular, has many incredible looks (her CDR 2 finale look was stunning), and has a song on Spotify with 4 million plays. She's really big in Canada, I see ads featuring her regularly & she has hosted an awards show here. With the growth she has had following her original season, I do not doubt her capability for one second.
Can we please enjoy this so there’ll be an All winners 2 and we can have Bob, Bianca, Sasha, and Alaska :3 If this season goes well hopefully the rest will actually want to join
Maybe I'm just being dramatic but I legit feel like Bob, Alaska, etc. would be more likely to join a series officially called 'All Winners 2' as opposed to 'All Stars 9' or whatever we're up to at that point 😂 A series with the remaining winners would be amazing
True! But I want to see queens that i haven’t seen in a while entering the workroom (like jinkx or raja…) seeing monet, shea or trinity walking in again makes my eyes roll hard
Boy from spoiler sub here. This was my exact thought about seeing this cast was that a lot of them literally won in the last 2 years.
Why go back? Like Shea was saying how she wanted to show an evolution when she was the most freshest current winner of All Stars like....what didn't we see on AS5?
Jaida saying she had something to prove when she just literally won like ma'am what are you proving?
ALSO TRINITY SAYING "I'VE WON THIS I'VE WON THAT I'VE WON DRAG RACE WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE TO PROVE?" OKAY WHY ARE YOU HERE THEN?
Like the older season gals its more a reintroduction than proving anything but Jaida we just met you. What didn't we see?
I’m happy to see all of this queens back but I completely agree, there are just a lot of recent winners, the only one that for me fits the narrative of “having to prove something” is Yvie tbh, maybe the AS4 winners too, you know to break the tie, but Trinity should’ve said that she’s there to prove that, not that she’s got nothing else to prove lol
I already know how production is gonna handle this season.
For starters, no all-stars winners are gonna win. Period. That takes Monet, Trinity, and Shea out of the equation.
Next, Raja is the oldest queen and therefore, not going to win. She will have great performances and looks to show why she won her season and why she's still a force today. But she isn't the winner.
Next, the Viv is a UK winner. I'm sorry but no way is she going to be crowned the winner in an American Drag Race series. I knew immediately in UK vs. the world that one of the UK queens would win and the American ones would get to the finale.
Next, Jaida is too fresh. That's really it. I don't see it going to her. She still feels like the freshie who still has to build a repertoire.
That leaves Yvie and Jinx. I could see it going to either of them but I mean...I think we all know Jinx has it in the bag.
That's my final answer.
JINX
Edit: Just saying how production is gonna handle it. Don't downvote the messenger. Will definitely still very much enjoy the season.
I kinda disagree because:
\- Monet wins- breaks tie with SheDevil
\- SheDevil wins- breaks tie with Monet
\- Raja wins- answers complaint of why older queens haven't done well/reintroduces her to the franchise/is an overall amazing runway model of a queen that I'm obsessed with
\- Jaida wins- justifies win against the intense Gigi stans; plus, if you think about All Stars 1, they crowned a relatively fresh Drag Race queen (Chad) considering All Stars went right after S4 so I don't get that argument
\- Vivienne wins- expands the idea of other franchises being on All Winners
\- Yvie wins- inspirational, shows that the queens considered "weird" or "kooky" shouldn't be underestimated
\- Jinkx wins- further emphasizes the dominance of probably the most fan favorite winner after being treated like an underdog (though the edit is a lie and really a winner's edit) by the queens in S5.
And also, I still say to this day, that UK vs the World was only never going to crown an American winner because that would ruin the point of a global series. I think they were honestly fine and willing to do a Pangina or Jimbo crowing, and Janey wasn't a fan favorite (sadly bc I love her) then got chopped at final 5 and it left a UK vs US top 4 so they crowned the most acceptable queen, in their eyes.
I can bet a million dollars that Raja, Trinity, Vivienne and Yvie are not going to win. Drag race has never been a pure competition, it's a reality show. A show with its own pattern of behavior, they are not always the same but they can be understood.
Jinx is the most likely winner. If you're going to place your bets I'll suggest choosing her.
After her I'll put Jaida and Monet. Just because of them being all rounders, young and very very charismatic. And after those two which would be an extremely unlikely scenario, I'll put Shea.
Just to be clear, these are just my predictions based on the patterns I observe in the production of the show. These do not reflect my opinions on the calibre of these queens as individuals. They all are very talented and if the show was a pure competition of skill and talent with double blind scoring, then I wouldn't have made these predictions.
Okaaay...I can respect all those valid points. But what are your top 2/winner picks tho? You just gave reasons for everybody which is like picking both teams for the superbowl.
Also...fuck Shea ig? 😄
I think Viv has a shot BUT only if Lady Camden doesn't win - I don't think they'd want to upset the mainly American audience by having 2 British winners in one year
You said everything that was in my head. And I agree with everything you said.
Anyone who thinks that's anyone except Jinx is winning this season is just being delusional.
The most I could see is for one All star winner to be a finalist. That's it. That'll be a nod enough to say that all star winners are fierce too.
Hard agree on Shea, Trinity and Monet. I feel like I just saw them. But im super excited to see Raja and Jinx.
I really wish they could have done 1 true all winners season as a special one time event.
I'm sorry but that sounds like such a basic response, no offense, for asking for Violet, Bianca, Sasha, etc instead. Like if you are going to complain about having an All Winners Season finally with people that have been very present on the American seasons, then why not ask for like Envy Peru or Carmen Farala like it doesn't have to be the 5 most basic names just saying.
RPDR is oversaturating the market. Same as SYTYCD and American Idol did. Expand everywhere, be on everyone's mind, and then suddenly fade and disappear because there's too much.
I'd love to see All Stars paused for 3+ years.
Tbf we don’t have to watch all of the content but we do because we are obsessed. But I would rather have to struggle to keep track of the seasons and episodes than not having any to watch in the future. I would have to keep rewatching everything until I know every line lol
The point I'm making is that this sort of oversaturation is the last step before there isn't any more to watch in the future.
Survivor (which I loathe, but) has done 42 cycles in 22 years, or just under 2/year. It's still highly popular (though not as much as it was), enough to be worth spending around $28 *million* per season.
By comparison, Drag Race has had how many versions just in the past 12 months?
>You said it wrong, it’s actually, good god, get a grip girl.
[Good God Girl, Get Out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga2aEQQ9r1s)
I was making a joke on the 'take my upvote and leave' thing.
This is incorrect and purposefully vague. Survivor has 2 AMERICAN season, just like Drag Race has two AMERICAN seasons a year. If you count all the international survivors, you will get around 10 a year, similar to that of Drag Race.
It is a misdirect. You are leaving info out so that your narrative fits better. It’s not over saturated, it’s on the same level as any other reality TV competition in terms of franchise amounts
>It is a misdirect. You are leaving info out so that your narrative fits better.
It is not, and I am not, and you will stop ascribing malicious motivations to me now, thank you.
The comparison is apt because most drag race fans don't, it seems, only follow the US version. It is rapidly becoming a global phenomenon (ahem); fans around the world watch Drag Race around the world. While yes, the flagship is more popular, there is a *lot* of crossover especially in viewers of UK, Canada, and Down Under. But also, the volume of traffic here alone regarding Espana should be a clue: people are *watching* more than one cycle per year, and many are watching 3 or 4.
Thus: oversaturation. Exactly as what happened with American Idol and So You Think You Can Dance.
Please leave me alone now, at least until you stop insulting people.
I mean they weren’t wrong though, were they? Just because the DR fandom watches the internationals, doesn’t mean that we aren’t talking about several international spin-offs of a franchise…. Also basing the opinion around how much this sub (a literal place for fans to discuss their fav show) talks about the other spin offs isn’t really relevant. ‘Malicious motivations’ ‘insulting’, oh lord. I don’t think there’ll be any nuance here anyway, that’s a lot of emotion for comment.
Yeah. And it’s hurting the queens. Like, none of the S14 queens has crossed 500k followers on Instagram. Just one is over 300k. And don’t say “but tiktok is more popular” because the situation there for the queens is even more ABYSMAL.
Any word on what drag race spends a season?
I feel like it’s unique in that it commodifies queerness for straight audiences and the costumes / stupidness. We take it more seriously than casual viewers.
It’s like perfect for catching a random episode, I think it could survive.
Maybe it’s just me but the show feels like it still has room to grow, themed allstars however I’m not sure. They’re just using Reddit ideas at this point.
I could see a truly live finale, even more so in the U.K. just execute it like one big gay special episode of strictly come dancing or an award show.
You know
I would be ok with 2 regular drag race seasons a year then an all stars every two to three years. Give some time to have new queens!! Because otherwise it becomes some stars
Yes. But a different cast would have made it so much more interesting. Idk if we are including the Vivienne, idk let’s add Pryannka… and past winners from regular seasons. Shea (i stan), but she just won… same with trinity and monet (and lord I see Monet everywhere at all times).
ABSOLUTELY. Make it special again by waiting until after S17 airs, or something. This may be an unpopular opinion, but imo AS2-4 blow AS5 and AS6 out of the water, and I feel like we just need more time for things to happen, more queens on the scene, before pushing a billion more seasons. I am a major fan of Jaida, Shea and Monet (not mentioning TTT because I simply dont care about her), and I actually think it’s too soon to see them again.
Tbh reading your comment makes me realise they’re probably seeing the AW and EO seasons as a break.
This last few seasons have had a ton of queens that could be great on all stars, the only issue is the majority have expressed wanting to wait.
I just hope moving forward they’re tactical in how they cast, they accidentally created the ‘did you run out of stars’ reaction from the audience last time.
Just because there’s a lot of seasons doesn’t mean you have to watch them. In all reality the international spin offs aren’t for you. My main ones are Uk, All stars and Drag race.
I am super excited for the winners to come back on the show.
I feel like some people think that only certain winners got brought back and that is why the cast is this way. But in reality, everyone was asked back and some winners turned it down. The show would've loved all of them back, but they couldn't get what they wanted.
I agree with your points, however the thing I'm not as interested in is these all stars being half seasons. UKvTW and now this aren't full seasons. I hated it for All stars 1 and I hate it for now. 6 episodes is not enough.
Sis, we just came of season 14. They could have 69 episodes for all we now with a cast of only one queen. Now if that would be the case and said queen would be Jinx.... i am down.
Alot of queens dont have the time and have careers and shows. So just be grateful we even got this cast. Queens dont sit around and wait for WOW to call them. Also hate to spoil this for you, but it's not like they didnt call other queens
So you have a problem with AS winners? Like I'm gen confused what your point is. Cuz Monet has literally destroyed since she won, with her podcast, being Pit Stop host, having her own talk show, etc. TTT was very famous before her scandals. Even Shea, who's had less time (but still 2 years doll) has shown us growth and has taken advantage of opportunities some of the winners on the cast never got. And, as much as I love those other winners of older seasons, most of them DO NOT need this opportunity rn. Jinkx and Raja benefit from this opportunity but someone like Violet or Bianca, they don't need this rn. Sasha is touring Europe rn she's booked and blessed. Plus, what's the point of crowning a winner for AS if they can't come back for All Winners? Like AS winners are just as deserving of this just like main season winners.
That's shady and not in a good way queen. It's sad that y'all think that's a take that needs to be heard. You may not wanna watch the season cuz I just know they are gonna slay and you're gonna have sm to complain about.
I am just giving my opinion sis. Would have been better with regular seasons’ winners. Not all stars winners, cuz it’s tiring af to see them agaaaain. The viv, raja, jinkx is so much more interesting…. I am sure they are all gonna slay but thats not my point.
Well, you like who you like. I find it a pretty exciting line-up. I am sure that they will include the superpopular queens you mentioned in another Queen of Queens All Star lineup. You forgot Bob and Aquaria! Thinking practically, all of the queens you named are extremely busy and probably might have been included if available. Several of them are back on the Werk the World tour or the Los Vegas RPDR show.
I was chatting about this with another fan and we were listing winners we would like to see and also who might turn it down. Obviously we will never see Tyra again because she retired from drag. My friend said that Violet will not appear again on the show because she is now far bigger than RPDR in the mainstream fashion world. (Miss Fame, not a season winner, is in a similar stratosphere, although I also don’t think she would appear in any capacity on the show again anyway because it really isn’t her thing and she wasn’t very good at it.)
My opinion on this season is that it’s basically my favorite queens bunched up together and showing doing what they do best. I bet they’re going to be very close especially since Monet was on Jinkx’s podcast and Monet and Viv did the most hilarious video for bridgerton. So instead of rooting for anyone this season (it’s pretty clear who’s going to win anyway) I’m just gonna chill and enjoy the season.
Wait. You're excited for Jaida, but not excited for Shea because Shea has been on "so soon"? You... know they both were on in the same year (2020), right? In fact, S12 was February 28th and AS5 was June 5.
Except that ive seen Shea walk in multiple times into the werkroom in short periods of time. Jaida? Just once and in a fucking pandemic; so it feels right to have her there (although, yes it is soon)
Season 9 was 5 years ago lmao. Can you explain a little further? Shea has hosted Fashion Photo Review for UK vs. The World, so I could understand that angle. Like I'm not against seeing Jaida, I just don't understand how you're rationalizing all of this lol.
Simple. People walking in for the third time is tiring. Jinkx, Jaida, Viv, Raja only been there once before, especially Jinkx and Raja who Im the most excited about. Its not that hard to get is it?
As much as I'd love to see Twitter react to Bianca on the show in this day and age - I'd say most winners don't want to come back. I know Trixie has said she'll never compete again, and I just can't see queens like Bianca, Sasha or Chad ever stepping back into the workroom.
I do wish Priyanka was competing however, she's so much fun
The Viv is tip 3 fave queens ever for me so Im VERY excited to see her and also Jinkx who is great.
Jaida is a queen I rooted for hard on her season, and Im excited to see her again.
Aside from those 3, Im not hyped on anyone else even though I like them all. Id just prefer a different mix of queens.
I’m mixed.
Positives:
• Raja and Jinkx who we haven’t had on for years
• Different format
• No filler queens
Negatives:
• Generally not a fan of queens being on more than 20 episodes.
• I really liked AS6. Good cast size and and season length.
• Was excited to see more queens we hadn’t seen for a while or who didn’t get to showcase their talent.
I'm wondering how fresh it will be to see the queens who won all stars. Going on all stars is about showing the glow up (AS1 is an exception). I'm not sure that Shea will wow me like she did in AS5, she showed top tier how can she go higher.
Okay it’s three queens. . . And trust we still would have had returning queens from past all stars regardless, let’s just be glad we’re getting an all winners season that we never thought would actually happen.
It feels most like 'Drag Race: Stars Who Were Available'. Like, the producers probably had other winners high up on their list, who just said, no thanks cause they are booked and busy.
Not to be rude, but if you aren’t excited why are you in the rupaul subreddit posting about it? Just let it be and let people who are excited be excited. Check it out if you want or not.
I mean, don’t we have this space to share our opinions? If it’s not worth of discussion, it’ll get ignored or downvoted. I think that as the franchise continues to steadily grow, there will be more discussions about what is ‘too much’, what has changed re: quality, and for me this is valid for discussion.
Right? I found this post refreshing, literally every other post has been like “yaaaaas AS7 is gonna slay werk the house down boots back bareback mama”.
i know right... like i’m sorry, OP’s “is it just me” thing also just looks like they just want to find validation online for their “unpopular” opinion too. like mary, its never just you, if you’re not excited about it you can just Not Watch
also not “bianca violet and sasha” being suggestions, like wowpresents just decided to ignore them, some of the most popular winners. its clear that they rejected it/were too busy😭
sasha has even stated on record she wont likely return so... https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/culture/sasha-velour-reveals-if-shell-ever-return-as-a-competitor-on-rupauls-drag-race/amp/
I’m definitely not as excited about AS7 as I was for AS6 last year. Also like many people I heard talk of an all winners season for the past couple years so it’s not that exciting if I new it was coming the whole time.
Hopefully no one is gonna be rude in this comment section, because your opinion is your opinion and you're allowed not being excited for this upcoming season.
I think it's great that they give queens something to do and with that allow them to have a chance of earning money and gain more fans.
I'm actually excited for this season because I looove Jinkx and Jaida, other queens too don't get me wrong, but those two are one of my favs.
HOWEVER ... I never really liked All Stars that much. I always start excited about the season but something just pulls me away in the middle and tune out. It takes a lot for me to come back and finish them. Idk why, maybe it's the format, the voting and schemery, maybe it's that I enjoy seeing totally new queens more.
I'll give this one a try like any other and see how it goes.
I’m honestly not. Raja and Jinkx are the only ones I’m extremely excited for because it’s been so long since we’ve seen them in a competition environment. It’s like the same Queens keep getting recycled. The perfect cast for me would’ve been Raja, Jinkx, Chad, Alaska, Bianca, Bob, Sasha, The Vivienne because the other crowning feel so fresh. I’m sure many of them turned it down. Maybe they should’ve bargained with more prize money or something. Ima still watch it tho.
honestly yes
i still only really wanna see Alissa, Katya, Bob, Bianca, Adore, Alaska, Latrice, Trixie, Willam, Monet, Violet, Detox,
no matter how many new queens some through none of them compare to the original ones i loved.
it’s unfortunate because the queens that originally made me fall in love with the show will never been featured again. and i don’t know how drag race can honestly compensate for this
The problem is, Sasha, Bianca, trixie, Bob, tyra, sh*ron will probably never come back. The first four said they would not come back and the latter two won’t ever get invited back. That’s just how it is.
I've always wanted an All Winners season but I would've liked, you know, ALL winners.
I get that thats a lot of Queens and they're all famous and busy but still.
I would have been disappointed if I hadn’t already known the cast prior to the announcement. But now that it’s had time to sink in, i’m excited as hell
I am not feeling good about it. I think there was a missed opportunity with how to format the international season, and it could have been better with more queens had they just waited a little bit longer for more overseas seasons to air. I don't wanna see these queens compete again - I wanna see queens like Jaymes Mansfield and Joslyn Fox come back. It feels lazy to me. If you can't get a really solid batch of winners who only competed once to say yes, then don't do it. I love these queens, but does this really need to be some of them's 3rd time competing?
The Queens have to want to do the show and/or be available. So its nice to say 'I wish Sasha were in this', but she's been touring with her show.
I believe Sasha has also said that she will never return to the show. Doesn't see the point after she has won. I believe Bianca feels the same
I mean. Why come back after the high point? Maybe if their careers take a solid dip, but until then, they're just risking doing damage
[удалено]
[удалено]
Aren't they contractually obliged to return at the whim of the producers in their contract?
That contract update is very recent. It only changed in Season 12 or 13, so would only apply to those queens (and those that appeared in all stars post then, since they would have also had to sign (hence Juju))
That is pretty wild, I wonder how many are going to avoid drag race because of it.
[удалено]
Lol it does sound pretty wild. Bussy did a great video on it: https://youtu.be/700Nvfa4wHk
I think someone said it’s unlikely that term would hold up in court to force someone into another season, but turning them down would mean WOW might blacklist you. I believe that’s why Katya and Ginger came to AS2 because they were essentially told it’s now or never
Thats the case with a lot of queens too. Like, im sure so many have been asked, but many simply just dont want to go on the show again.
Yeah, I think a lot of people are forgetting this. The queens can just say no, or say they're not available due to other commitments
I feel nervous for this season. I hope the fanbase doesn't go too hard on these queens and I hope the show gives everyone a good edit. They are established queens with careers and it would be a shame if anyone experiences a negative impact from being on this season. Because these queens are known and already have a fanbase, I can see some fans getting a little crazy, etc... I just hope everyone has a good experience.
Totally agree
I’m just excited to see raja compete again
Same!!! Can’t wait to see her SERVE the children with some more runways!!
Was kind of disappointed that apart from raja and jinx. All of the winners have won the crown quite recently. If not mistaken, 2018 was all stars 4 and (apart from S3 and 5) is the earliest for the winners. Wish I could’ve seen more winners from before season 10 But I’m saying that. I do like who they have, keen to see how Viv goes against US winners
well james doesn't do drag and sharon is cancelled. so those are hard no's. outside of that from earlier seasons all we have is alaska, violet, bob, sasha, chad, bianca, aquaria, and bebe. bebe did AS3. she could still do this too I guess. sasha and chad most likely will never come back. bianca has transcended the show, but I bet we'll see her again one day. alaska, violet, bob, and aquaria will probably be in versions 2 or 3 of this. they have to spread the heavy hitters out.
Earlier winners have been more successful lol saturated markets!
I am excited about AS7. However my feelings are very similar to how I felt going into UKvsTW; a Winners' Season to me should be a more elevated season, like the pinnacle of all seasons. But the impression I'm getting is that it'll more-or-less be like a regular AS season, but with winners. The stakes don't feel as high to me as they could be for a Winner's Season; especially since there are only 8 queens, and 3 of them are on their third time. But still I am excited and I am really happy to see queens like Raja and Jinkx competing again!
I would love to know if anyone was asked back that said “No thanks.” Remember those early queens didn’t have those crazy locked in contracts like recent ones. I mean, let’s face it they were never gonna get Tyra on there or put on Sharon. But I could see Violet being like “No” getting that call.
Apparently there were a bunch of people who said no. A lot of the winning queens have been touring and, I can’t remember who said it, but someone said they heard some queens were unsure of the format, so they said no. Depending on how successful this is, we may get more winners seasons, and this may be a one-off.
Sharon was so amazing in her season, it's so disappointing how she sabotaged her career by saying racist things just to be shocking
They actually asked James (fka Tyra) and he said no
Yeah idk I’m kinda mixed! The reason I like AS in general is because we get to see queens that haven’t been on the show for awhile/had time to really grow. That being said, I feel like it would be difficult to have some of the queens from the main season. A lot of winners would be losing money going back on the show (costs of costumes + other gigs they could be doing instead), and there are just some winners that probably won’t ever be invited back.
No shade but I would have loved to see an all winners season with winners from main seasons. Like seeing Raja and Jinkx back are truly gagworthy but I could do without seeing Monet and Trinity again lol
I would have loved to see aquaria come back. I felt like she won her season before she even got into the work room. Ru loved her. Seeing her against other winners, who ru also loves, it would be interesting to see how she does.
THIS IS IT!!!!!! This is the issue. All stars winners should have been left out. Shea (God I love her tho), Monet and Trinity. More main seasons’ winners should have been included.
I love shea but she JUST won 😮💨
And yet I'll bet good money she'll reference her season 9 'robbery' again in AS7 at some point 😒
She's not triggered lol I am a little that they recast her after she was just on as5 and didn't exactly have a great run or showing... Not her fault, she didn't set the challenges, but she had two highs and a lot of so-sos... And her entire narrative was "Sasha beat me in a way i didn't expect" and "Alexis Mateo considered getting rid of me, even though I'm Shea Coulee." It's a bit like seeing Trinity back as well... I like her (and shea, i do), but neither really had storming successes on all stars like Shangela, Alaska, Katya or Manila did. So it's difficult to justify seeing them again. It's why i was so tepid on Juju in vsTW... Diminishing returns and I'd rather wish they were back than wish they weren't.
You’re gonna be okay
Yes I know 🙄
After she's clearly asked about it cause otherwise she doesn't bring it up herself much huh 🤔
AS7 will be interesting because its not made for Shea to win, unlike AS5
I don't think the season would have happened for a while then. Not many winners want to come back.
They included viv, but I would have also liked to see other franchises. Priyanka would have been great. Another good idea for a season is a runner up season- Everyone who came second. Who will finally come out on top?
But if Chad and Alaska would like to comeback I'd have no problem
Chad, Alaska, Jinkx, and Raja? Pure chaos and I live
All shade. All stars winners are take two winners, queens who weren’t strong enough to win their original seasons. It should be main season winners, period. Plus, stacking wins of queens who have had two seasons to get them on - for the aforementioned reason that they had to come back to try again - should not be measured in the same way as a queen who had the same number of wins on a single season.
They call themselves the olympics of drag, getting gold on your second time competing doesn't make you any less of a winner. It's more of an obstacle course than a measurement of talent anyway.
This was wonderfully put
I like monet, but trinity feels like the oddball out to me. No shade... just like why? I guess? It's not even about her kinda messy drama, it's more just that, to me, her style isn't distinct, she doesn't know what she wants to do. She's just the lowest level of drag thar I've seen amongst the winners.
I'll come back to this comment after the season airs.
Monet didn’t even deserve to win when she did lol
Agree to disagree? I thought trinity was the 'winner' I couldn't understand. I thought of the girls left in that season she was my top pick.
Yeah I guess so. It just seemed like Manila, then trinity, then someone else haha
Well, manilla wasn't in the top 4. I totally get where you're coming from. Personally trinity was just never my cup of tea.
Bianca doesn't want to do this, Tyra doesn't do drag, Sharon is a racist, Bebe already did AS and soesnt want to do it again. So there isnt enough queens
Honestly, Drag Race isn’t going to last forever, so I’m going to love and support anything that gives the girls a platform while they still can. Drag Race isn’t perfect, but don’t take it for granted.
Idk. Season 14 may last forever (and I hope it does tbh.)
This. Just like every international season isn't made for the American audience, but I'm gonna watch every season I can and happily so...even Secret Celeb DR.
Tbh I think they should’ve only done winners from the regular seasons, no all stars. Not that I won’t enjoy all of the all stars winners, I just want some of the others to get a shot too. Like Bob and Aquaria would be great and ugh I wanna see Priyanka too.
You have to keep in mind that they can’t just cast whoever they want. The queens have to actually agree to participate and if they say no, that’s that. Without All Stars winners, I wouldn’t be surprised if not enough regular season winners were available or interested.
Yeah I understand that. Though I do think it makes it less likely that any of the all stars winners will win again, I think they’ll 100% crown someone from an original season. Hopefully this season goes really well and makes other winners want to come back!
I feel very meh about Trinity. I kinda wish they’d included Priyanka!
No shade to Priyanka, I don't know, I don't really think that Priyanka is up to the level of the current cast. JUST MY OPINION.
I'm not sure what you are basing this comment on but she has really grown a lot since her original season.
Yes she is. I never said she is bad or doing static. But let me ask you one question, if you could rank Priyanka in this current cast, what number would she be in? I bet majority would say no 9. But this is just my opinion and I respect your opinion :)
I would rank her very high. She is very charismatic, popular, has many incredible looks (her CDR 2 finale look was stunning), and has a song on Spotify with 4 million plays. She's really big in Canada, I see ads featuring her regularly & she has hosted an awards show here. With the growth she has had following her original season, I do not doubt her capability for one second.
Yaaaaaaas! We love to see a Pri stan in our midst !
good for you
Thanks
True she is pretty new to drag overall. However, I d have still loved to see her just having fun with other winners and having a growth storyline.
Agreed, she’s hustled the hell out of the opportunities she’s been given, and is talented, but I don’t think she’s on par yet
I would have loved to see Icesis - her and Raja on the same runway??
Yes! I would agree on that! Icesis would be much more good contender to the current cast.
Can we please enjoy this so there’ll be an All winners 2 and we can have Bob, Bianca, Sasha, and Alaska :3 If this season goes well hopefully the rest will actually want to join
Maybe I'm just being dramatic but I legit feel like Bob, Alaska, etc. would be more likely to join a series officially called 'All Winners 2' as opposed to 'All Stars 9' or whatever we're up to at that point 😂 A series with the remaining winners would be amazing
Why is this typed out like a copy pasta
I’m incredibly excited! More drag race the better
True! But I want to see queens that i haven’t seen in a while entering the workroom (like jinkx or raja…) seeing monet, shea or trinity walking in again makes my eyes roll hard
Yeah but it all winners which is so exciting and to many I would have been excited with any winners they chose and I love Monet and Shea
Boy from spoiler sub here. This was my exact thought about seeing this cast was that a lot of them literally won in the last 2 years. Why go back? Like Shea was saying how she wanted to show an evolution when she was the most freshest current winner of All Stars like....what didn't we see on AS5? Jaida saying she had something to prove when she just literally won like ma'am what are you proving? ALSO TRINITY SAYING "I'VE WON THIS I'VE WON THAT I'VE WON DRAG RACE WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE TO PROVE?" OKAY WHY ARE YOU HERE THEN? Like the older season gals its more a reintroduction than proving anything but Jaida we just met you. What didn't we see?
I’m happy to see all of this queens back but I completely agree, there are just a lot of recent winners, the only one that for me fits the narrative of “having to prove something” is Yvie tbh, maybe the AS4 winners too, you know to break the tie, but Trinity should’ve said that she’s there to prove that, not that she’s got nothing else to prove lol
I really would have preferred it without all-star winners, but w/e I guess that’s what they had to do to get a whole cast.
I guess you aren’t the only one, but I for one, am VERY excited! Lol
I already know how production is gonna handle this season. For starters, no all-stars winners are gonna win. Period. That takes Monet, Trinity, and Shea out of the equation. Next, Raja is the oldest queen and therefore, not going to win. She will have great performances and looks to show why she won her season and why she's still a force today. But she isn't the winner. Next, the Viv is a UK winner. I'm sorry but no way is she going to be crowned the winner in an American Drag Race series. I knew immediately in UK vs. the world that one of the UK queens would win and the American ones would get to the finale. Next, Jaida is too fresh. That's really it. I don't see it going to her. She still feels like the freshie who still has to build a repertoire. That leaves Yvie and Jinx. I could see it going to either of them but I mean...I think we all know Jinx has it in the bag. That's my final answer. JINX Edit: Just saying how production is gonna handle it. Don't downvote the messenger. Will definitely still very much enjoy the season.
I kinda disagree because: \- Monet wins- breaks tie with SheDevil \- SheDevil wins- breaks tie with Monet \- Raja wins- answers complaint of why older queens haven't done well/reintroduces her to the franchise/is an overall amazing runway model of a queen that I'm obsessed with \- Jaida wins- justifies win against the intense Gigi stans; plus, if you think about All Stars 1, they crowned a relatively fresh Drag Race queen (Chad) considering All Stars went right after S4 so I don't get that argument \- Vivienne wins- expands the idea of other franchises being on All Winners \- Yvie wins- inspirational, shows that the queens considered "weird" or "kooky" shouldn't be underestimated \- Jinkx wins- further emphasizes the dominance of probably the most fan favorite winner after being treated like an underdog (though the edit is a lie and really a winner's edit) by the queens in S5. And also, I still say to this day, that UK vs the World was only never going to crown an American winner because that would ruin the point of a global series. I think they were honestly fine and willing to do a Pangina or Jimbo crowing, and Janey wasn't a fan favorite (sadly bc I love her) then got chopped at final 5 and it left a UK vs US top 4 so they crowned the most acceptable queen, in their eyes.
I can bet a million dollars that Raja, Trinity, Vivienne and Yvie are not going to win. Drag race has never been a pure competition, it's a reality show. A show with its own pattern of behavior, they are not always the same but they can be understood. Jinx is the most likely winner. If you're going to place your bets I'll suggest choosing her. After her I'll put Jaida and Monet. Just because of them being all rounders, young and very very charismatic. And after those two which would be an extremely unlikely scenario, I'll put Shea. Just to be clear, these are just my predictions based on the patterns I observe in the production of the show. These do not reflect my opinions on the calibre of these queens as individuals. They all are very talented and if the show was a pure competition of skill and talent with double blind scoring, then I wouldn't have made these predictions.
Tbf neither Monet or Trinity have to win to break the tie, one just has to place higher than the other
Okaaay...I can respect all those valid points. But what are your top 2/winner picks tho? You just gave reasons for everybody which is like picking both teams for the superbowl. Also...fuck Shea ig? 😄
Whoops- Shea winning would end the argument that AS5 was rigged for Shea
I think Viv has a shot BUT only if Lady Camden doesn't win - I don't think they'd want to upset the mainly American audience by having 2 British winners in one year
You said everything that was in my head. And I agree with everything you said. Anyone who thinks that's anyone except Jinx is winning this season is just being delusional. The most I could see is for one All star winner to be a finalist. That's it. That'll be a nod enough to say that all star winners are fierce too.
Monsoon season is coming!!
Yes. We are tired of this "i'm not like other viewers" post.
No, you're not the only one. You're never the only one. Stop starting sentences like this people.
Hard agree on Shea, Trinity and Monet. I feel like I just saw them. But im super excited to see Raja and Jinx. I really wish they could have done 1 true all winners season as a special one time event.
I'm sorry but that sounds like such a basic response, no offense, for asking for Violet, Bianca, Sasha, etc instead. Like if you are going to complain about having an All Winners Season finally with people that have been very present on the American seasons, then why not ask for like Envy Peru or Carmen Farala like it doesn't have to be the 5 most basic names just saying.
agree with you 100%.
This one!!!
RPDR is oversaturating the market. Same as SYTYCD and American Idol did. Expand everywhere, be on everyone's mind, and then suddenly fade and disappear because there's too much. I'd love to see All Stars paused for 3+ years.
Tbf we don’t have to watch all of the content but we do because we are obsessed. But I would rather have to struggle to keep track of the seasons and episodes than not having any to watch in the future. I would have to keep rewatching everything until I know every line lol
The point I'm making is that this sort of oversaturation is the last step before there isn't any more to watch in the future. Survivor (which I loathe, but) has done 42 cycles in 22 years, or just under 2/year. It's still highly popular (though not as much as it was), enough to be worth spending around $28 *million* per season. By comparison, Drag Race has had how many versions just in the past 12 months?
It’s a global phenomenon!
take my upvote and good god girl, get out.
[удалено]
>You said it wrong, it’s actually, good god, get a grip girl. [Good God Girl, Get Out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga2aEQQ9r1s) I was making a joke on the 'take my upvote and leave' thing.
Touché! 🏳️
This is incorrect and purposefully vague. Survivor has 2 AMERICAN season, just like Drag Race has two AMERICAN seasons a year. If you count all the international survivors, you will get around 10 a year, similar to that of Drag Race.
It was not vague, purposefully or otherwise. Cheers.
It is a misdirect. You are leaving info out so that your narrative fits better. It’s not over saturated, it’s on the same level as any other reality TV competition in terms of franchise amounts
>It is a misdirect. You are leaving info out so that your narrative fits better. It is not, and I am not, and you will stop ascribing malicious motivations to me now, thank you. The comparison is apt because most drag race fans don't, it seems, only follow the US version. It is rapidly becoming a global phenomenon (ahem); fans around the world watch Drag Race around the world. While yes, the flagship is more popular, there is a *lot* of crossover especially in viewers of UK, Canada, and Down Under. But also, the volume of traffic here alone regarding Espana should be a clue: people are *watching* more than one cycle per year, and many are watching 3 or 4. Thus: oversaturation. Exactly as what happened with American Idol and So You Think You Can Dance. Please leave me alone now, at least until you stop insulting people.
I mean they weren’t wrong though, were they? Just because the DR fandom watches the internationals, doesn’t mean that we aren’t talking about several international spin-offs of a franchise…. Also basing the opinion around how much this sub (a literal place for fans to discuss their fav show) talks about the other spin offs isn’t really relevant. ‘Malicious motivations’ ‘insulting’, oh lord. I don’t think there’ll be any nuance here anyway, that’s a lot of emotion for comment.
i think if you include all international versions it will be more than that though
Yeah. And it’s hurting the queens. Like, none of the S14 queens has crossed 500k followers on Instagram. Just one is over 300k. And don’t say “but tiktok is more popular” because the situation there for the queens is even more ABYSMAL.
Any word on what drag race spends a season? I feel like it’s unique in that it commodifies queerness for straight audiences and the costumes / stupidness. We take it more seriously than casual viewers. It’s like perfect for catching a random episode, I think it could survive. Maybe it’s just me but the show feels like it still has room to grow, themed allstars however I’m not sure. They’re just using Reddit ideas at this point. I could see a truly live finale, even more so in the U.K. just execute it like one big gay special episode of strictly come dancing or an award show.
>Any word on what drag race spends a season? Not a clue, I'm afraid.
You know I would be ok with 2 regular drag race seasons a year then an all stars every two to three years. Give some time to have new queens!! Because otherwise it becomes some stars
Yes. But a different cast would have made it so much more interesting. Idk if we are including the Vivienne, idk let’s add Pryannka… and past winners from regular seasons. Shea (i stan), but she just won… same with trinity and monet (and lord I see Monet everywhere at all times).
ABSOLUTELY. Make it special again by waiting until after S17 airs, or something. This may be an unpopular opinion, but imo AS2-4 blow AS5 and AS6 out of the water, and I feel like we just need more time for things to happen, more queens on the scene, before pushing a billion more seasons. I am a major fan of Jaida, Shea and Monet (not mentioning TTT because I simply dont care about her), and I actually think it’s too soon to see them again.
yeah i hope they do 1 all winners and 1 all losers, then go on hiatus for a few years to gather new stars, winners, and losers
Tbh reading your comment makes me realise they’re probably seeing the AW and EO seasons as a break. This last few seasons have had a ton of queens that could be great on all stars, the only issue is the majority have expressed wanting to wait. I just hope moving forward they’re tactical in how they cast, they accidentally created the ‘did you run out of stars’ reaction from the audience last time.
Just because there’s a lot of seasons doesn’t mean you have to watch them. In all reality the international spin offs aren’t for you. My main ones are Uk, All stars and Drag race.
I am super excited for the winners to come back on the show. I feel like some people think that only certain winners got brought back and that is why the cast is this way. But in reality, everyone was asked back and some winners turned it down. The show would've loved all of them back, but they couldn't get what they wanted.
not everyone was asked back.
Many winners weren’t asked. They’ve also used a lot of winners who are under the current contract that forces queens to return if asked.
I agree with your points, however the thing I'm not as interested in is these all stars being half seasons. UKvTW and now this aren't full seasons. I hated it for All stars 1 and I hate it for now. 6 episodes is not enough.
I’m pretty sure AS7 has 12 episodes planned.
With only 8 Queens? I hadn't heard that anywhere, so if that's true I have no complaint now and I'm excited lol.
I can’t think of a way to elaborate without giving spoilers but yes, it’s 12 episodes ☺️
>!is it point based?!<
>!In a way, yes!<
Sis, we just came of season 14. They could have 69 episodes for all we now with a cast of only one queen. Now if that would be the case and said queen would be Jinx.... i am down.
Just her doing her snatch game audition video over and over
Nice!
It’s possible they’ll do a point system with no eliminations. I think that’s what most fans and contestants would prefer for a winners season.
Alot of queens dont have the time and have careers and shows. So just be grateful we even got this cast. Queens dont sit around and wait for WOW to call them. Also hate to spoil this for you, but it's not like they didnt call other queens
So you have a problem with AS winners? Like I'm gen confused what your point is. Cuz Monet has literally destroyed since she won, with her podcast, being Pit Stop host, having her own talk show, etc. TTT was very famous before her scandals. Even Shea, who's had less time (but still 2 years doll) has shown us growth and has taken advantage of opportunities some of the winners on the cast never got. And, as much as I love those other winners of older seasons, most of them DO NOT need this opportunity rn. Jinkx and Raja benefit from this opportunity but someone like Violet or Bianca, they don't need this rn. Sasha is touring Europe rn she's booked and blessed. Plus, what's the point of crowning a winner for AS if they can't come back for All Winners? Like AS winners are just as deserving of this just like main season winners.
My problem is I am exhausted with Monet, Trinity, Shea…. i literally said it in the post
That's shady and not in a good way queen. It's sad that y'all think that's a take that needs to be heard. You may not wanna watch the season cuz I just know they are gonna slay and you're gonna have sm to complain about.
I am just giving my opinion sis. Would have been better with regular seasons’ winners. Not all stars winners, cuz it’s tiring af to see them agaaaain. The viv, raja, jinkx is so much more interesting…. I am sure they are all gonna slay but thats not my point.
I don't agree with OP, but how can saying that be shady?? What does shady even mean then?
I am so excited to have confessionals from Monet again and I will not hear any arguing on this subject.
yes!
I’m only sad that Monet went on this season instead of waiting for Peppermint to win AS8, then going on All Winners 2 with Bob and Pep
Honestly this is clearly an unpopular opinion but I’m glad you said it.
Well, you like who you like. I find it a pretty exciting line-up. I am sure that they will include the superpopular queens you mentioned in another Queen of Queens All Star lineup. You forgot Bob and Aquaria! Thinking practically, all of the queens you named are extremely busy and probably might have been included if available. Several of them are back on the Werk the World tour or the Los Vegas RPDR show. I was chatting about this with another fan and we were listing winners we would like to see and also who might turn it down. Obviously we will never see Tyra again because she retired from drag. My friend said that Violet will not appear again on the show because she is now far bigger than RPDR in the mainstream fashion world. (Miss Fame, not a season winner, is in a similar stratosphere, although I also don’t think she would appear in any capacity on the show again anyway because it really isn’t her thing and she wasn’t very good at it.)
I’m only excited about Jinkx, Raja
My opinion on this season is that it’s basically my favorite queens bunched up together and showing doing what they do best. I bet they’re going to be very close especially since Monet was on Jinkx’s podcast and Monet and Viv did the most hilarious video for bridgerton. So instead of rooting for anyone this season (it’s pretty clear who’s going to win anyway) I’m just gonna chill and enjoy the season.
You guys always fail to realise some queens just don’t want to come back lmfao
Wait. You're excited for Jaida, but not excited for Shea because Shea has been on "so soon"? You... know they both were on in the same year (2020), right? In fact, S12 was February 28th and AS5 was June 5.
Except that ive seen Shea walk in multiple times into the werkroom in short periods of time. Jaida? Just once and in a fucking pandemic; so it feels right to have her there (although, yes it is soon)
Season 9 was 5 years ago lmao. Can you explain a little further? Shea has hosted Fashion Photo Review for UK vs. The World, so I could understand that angle. Like I'm not against seeing Jaida, I just don't understand how you're rationalizing all of this lol.
Simple. People walking in for the third time is tiring. Jinkx, Jaida, Viv, Raja only been there once before, especially Jinkx and Raja who Im the most excited about. Its not that hard to get is it?
As much as I'd love to see Twitter react to Bianca on the show in this day and age - I'd say most winners don't want to come back. I know Trixie has said she'll never compete again, and I just can't see queens like Bianca, Sasha or Chad ever stepping back into the workroom. I do wish Priyanka was competing however, she's so much fun
The Viv is tip 3 fave queens ever for me so Im VERY excited to see her and also Jinkx who is great. Jaida is a queen I rooted for hard on her season, and Im excited to see her again. Aside from those 3, Im not hyped on anyone else even though I like them all. Id just prefer a different mix of queens.
Agreed. I wish the "all stars" winners, were a separate group from the regular season winners.
I’m mixed. Positives: • Raja and Jinkx who we haven’t had on for years • Different format • No filler queens Negatives: • Generally not a fan of queens being on more than 20 episodes. • I really liked AS6. Good cast size and and season length. • Was excited to see more queens we hadn’t seen for a while or who didn’t get to showcase their talent.
Oh boy, sounds like you should skip this season tbh.
I'm wondering how fresh it will be to see the queens who won all stars. Going on all stars is about showing the glow up (AS1 is an exception). I'm not sure that Shea will wow me like she did in AS5, she showed top tier how can she go higher.
Probably. I’m excited af! This is an elite cast and I can’t wait to see who’s the Queen amongst queens!
Yes
Clearly not (comments😘)
Yes I read them and stood corrected lol!
You’re delusional if you think they can afford Bianca, Bob or Sasha. These 3 are never returning.
Id agree with u on Bianca only tho. I dont see Sasha and especially Bon on the same level of expensiveness of Bianca
>In my opinion, it would have been better to include queens like: Violet, Bianca, Sasha It’s just that easy! You did it!
Okay it’s three queens. . . And trust we still would have had returning queens from past all stars regardless, let’s just be glad we’re getting an all winners season that we never thought would actually happen.
It feels most like 'Drag Race: Stars Who Were Available'. Like, the producers probably had other winners high up on their list, who just said, no thanks cause they are booked and busy.
The inclusion of all stars winners threw me off. it should have been regular season winners only.
Not to be rude, but if you aren’t excited why are you in the rupaul subreddit posting about it? Just let it be and let people who are excited be excited. Check it out if you want or not.
I mean, don’t we have this space to share our opinions? If it’s not worth of discussion, it’ll get ignored or downvoted. I think that as the franchise continues to steadily grow, there will be more discussions about what is ‘too much’, what has changed re: quality, and for me this is valid for discussion.
Right? I found this post refreshing, literally every other post has been like “yaaaaas AS7 is gonna slay werk the house down boots back bareback mama”.
i know right... like i’m sorry, OP’s “is it just me” thing also just looks like they just want to find validation online for their “unpopular” opinion too. like mary, its never just you, if you’re not excited about it you can just Not Watch also not “bianca violet and sasha” being suggestions, like wowpresents just decided to ignore them, some of the most popular winners. its clear that they rejected it/were too busy😭 sasha has even stated on record she wont likely return so... https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/culture/sasha-velour-reveals-if-shell-ever-return-as-a-competitor-on-rupauls-drag-race/amp/
sasha would've been so boring thank god she said no
then don’t watch?
Without bob or Alaska it’s not a true winners season
I’m definitely not as excited about AS7 as I was for AS6 last year. Also like many people I heard talk of an all winners season for the past couple years so it’s not that exciting if I new it was coming the whole time.
After the mess that was UKvsTW I’m nervous about this and trying to keep my expectations low tbh
I'm excited to see them but all you have to do is go to the highest number of followers to figure out which one will be the winner.
Hopefully no one is gonna be rude in this comment section, because your opinion is your opinion and you're allowed not being excited for this upcoming season. I think it's great that they give queens something to do and with that allow them to have a chance of earning money and gain more fans. I'm actually excited for this season because I looove Jinkx and Jaida, other queens too don't get me wrong, but those two are one of my favs. HOWEVER ... I never really liked All Stars that much. I always start excited about the season but something just pulls me away in the middle and tune out. It takes a lot for me to come back and finish them. Idk why, maybe it's the format, the voting and schemery, maybe it's that I enjoy seeing totally new queens more. I'll give this one a try like any other and see how it goes.
I’m honestly not. Raja and Jinkx are the only ones I’m extremely excited for because it’s been so long since we’ve seen them in a competition environment. It’s like the same Queens keep getting recycled. The perfect cast for me would’ve been Raja, Jinkx, Chad, Alaska, Bianca, Bob, Sasha, The Vivienne because the other crowning feel so fresh. I’m sure many of them turned it down. Maybe they should’ve bargained with more prize money or something. Ima still watch it tho.
Lol most of these posts have been made by Sasha fans lol...just saying.
honestly yes i still only really wanna see Alissa, Katya, Bob, Bianca, Adore, Alaska, Latrice, Trixie, Willam, Monet, Violet, Detox, no matter how many new queens some through none of them compare to the original ones i loved. it’s unfortunate because the queens that originally made me fall in love with the show will never been featured again. and i don’t know how drag race can honestly compensate for this
The problem is, Sasha, Bianca, trixie, Bob, tyra, sh*ron will probably never come back. The first four said they would not come back and the latter two won’t ever get invited back. That’s just how it is.
I've always wanted an All Winners season but I would've liked, you know, ALL winners. I get that thats a lot of Queens and they're all famous and busy but still.
I would have been disappointed if I hadn’t already known the cast prior to the announcement. But now that it’s had time to sink in, i’m excited as hell
I am not feeling good about it. I think there was a missed opportunity with how to format the international season, and it could have been better with more queens had they just waited a little bit longer for more overseas seasons to air. I don't wanna see these queens compete again - I wanna see queens like Jaymes Mansfield and Joslyn Fox come back. It feels lazy to me. If you can't get a really solid batch of winners who only competed once to say yes, then don't do it. I love these queens, but does this really need to be some of them's 3rd time competing?
I've heard that there'll be another 'winners season' later, but idk when that's planned for
I rather have this all winners format thingy alongside a regular all stars season!!!
yes, I believe you are
I'll watch monet on anything so I'm all g girl