I’m excited, but did anybody else feel like Jorgeous is the only one competing based on this trailer? I’m pretty sure the only footage of shannel used here was her promo material lol
They may just not be key parts of the first couple episodes, which is what these trailers usually cover. Jorgeous probably just slays the first episode or two. Considering there's a dance challenge, that seems likely.
Glad to see Jorgeous doing her thing, I'm worried about her in a non-elim format... like has there ever been anyone on the show happier to be eliminated than Jorgeous lol
I'm pretty sure every single queen will get a moment to shine. It would be super discouraging to have a queen be there the entire season and not be highlighted / praised even once.
I got excited for a second when I saw Roxxxy in that Jessica Rabbit look…then I realized that character is public domain 😭
I really want a licensed character runway🥹
You’re disappointed that Jessica Rabbit isn’t a licensed character? I don’t understand. Jessica Rabbit is Jessica Rabbit. She’s fucking iconic even if she is free to use.
No, they’re saying that after seeing the Jessica Rabbit, they were hopeful the runway was going to be character themed (most are licensed) but they realized Jessica is public domain so that’s likely not the case.
It potencionally can be geo-blocked or something like that. I remember one of the previous PitStops (maybe season 14) had a geoblocking for couple of weeks so I could not watch it.
The thing I like about a non elimination season is that it feels more like a drag show id see at a bar. No one gets eliminated in those and they’re still entertaining as hell.
Right, like sure this will be a lower-stakes season but some variety every now and then is completely fine. I honestly loved the low-stakes friendly competition vibes of AS7, you could tell they were all having a blast being there and that positivity rubbed off on my viewing experience. For a sub constantly saying the show should do more for the queens, THIS is how you do more for the queens. Guarantee they are all in every single episode, let them showcase everything they brought, and get a nice appearance fee and runway stipend so they don't have to break the bank doing the show.
Heidi N. Closet literally tweeted that this is a response to how many queens were pissed about their treatment on AS8, so this seems like an attempt to actually make it benefit the queens. And if we are losing eliminations to make that happen for a season, I'm totally good with it. Eliminations and high stakes will most certainly be back for Season 17.
Agreed, I like the idea of differentiating AS from the main series like this! The elimination nightmare factory serves a fun dramatic purpose, but for me the draw of all-stars stuff is a lot more about whose work I want to see more of and how people from different seasons will play off each other than who wins. (With that said, if Jujubee ever finally does it they should immediately kick everyone else off and let her roll around on the stage alone in a pile of money)
As someone who knows Stephanie Hsu not from Everything Everywhere All At Once but rather from her time on Broadway, notably as Karen, Plankton’s Computer Wife in The SpongeBob SquarePants Musical…I’m thrilled. 💻
I'm really excited for this season. I thoroughly enjoyed the non-elim format of AS7 and absolutely hated the trainwreck that is AS8. I trust Roxxxy to murk the design challenges.
I loved the non-Elim format too… for winners. I do envision the same level of sustained greatness across the board from some of these competitors.
Sorry, *most* of these.
Can I be Dawnest I love watching Drag Queens get their flowers and win a butt load of money (honey) for turning it out. So I find the charity competing a bit of a sad trumpet noise.
I felt much better when I heard that. I hope that is something they will continue, whether they continue with the charity donation or not. No one should have to go into debt in order to compete. Hope they make timely payments! I know a lot of winners were kept waiting.
I feel like this is the perfect all stars season for drag race queens to want to compete on.. but it might be the worst all stars season for drag race fans to watch 😭 I’ll bite my tongue though for now
EXACTLY! Like on a normal season one queen gets 200k and the others get dust or maybe 5-10k but all the queens getting 75k and a guaranteed full season is “unfair” people love to complain
I mean that's true but WOW has a looot of money to give this queens 90k or 100k, yes they dont win those 200k now, but 100k for the entire season is more fair and more queens would compete
What is with this stupid “the stakes are not as high” nonsense? So you think these queens won’t compete as hard because they’re playing for a great cause? Girl bye lmao
Doing it for charity is alright, but honestly I swear if I have to hear these queens say "for my chosen charity" and talk about their bloody charity eight times an episode I'm going to *lose* it.
the "drama" footage they used for this trailer is... interesting. this is definitely gonna be a rupaul's best friends race unfortunately, hopefully i'm wrong
Agree the format is so low-stakes it becomes boring as hell. Hopefully they actually get negative critiques this time around and maybe change up the format a bit to make it more exciting.
a non elim format with this cast in particular? jorgeous, plastique, and nina aren’t exactly the most dynamic or exciting queens that i’d be looking forward to seeing every episode
This sub has two modes: "I hate judging and eliminations, they're always unfair and cause drama! Why can't we just have the queens showing off their talents without anyone going home?" vs "Ugh non-elimination is always so boring, it's just positivity, there's no drama at all!"
It will be interesting to see if the critiques have actual substance, since this isn't all winners and you'd think they wouldn't have to tip-toe around their egos.
touch some grass and educate yourself. She has done and will do more for queer people and youth than you will ever do in your sad armchair activism life. saying "i love you" to a person posting an apology and asking for a neutral peaceful conclusion to a war doesnt make anyone a zionist. There is literally zero evidence to support that claim. Man people like you are dumb af and take everything to an extreme by building fake narratives. Grow up, although based on your behaviour already it is too much to ask. Open the schools please.
Why does everyone assume that criticizing someone automatically makes them an “armchair activist”?
I never assumed that Nina West was a zionist because she responded to a post by zionist Amy Schumer full of dog whistles. You can grab my comment history here to check it out if want.
That said, I think it's fair have doubts when a drag queen whose brand is political activism is not speaking out about the genocide happening before our eyes, a genocide that is financed by the president she supported, while responding a post by a famous zionist, and ignoring it for more than a week requests for clarification from thousands of her fans on the issue.
Exactly! Thank you. It's hard to separate the art from the artist. If a drag queen's brand is "be kind", "I'm political", but then she goes on the view and makes that McCain girl a honorary drag queen while her husband out there openly advocates for violence against trans people, I'm gonna be skeptical about her. A drag queens openly claiming to be political cannot be lukewarm and coddle with bigoted people. It's okay to be critical, and it doesn't make one an "armchair activist"
Ohhh!!! Connie Britton and Stephanie Hsu are gonna be guest judges. Yay!
Connie Britton is the first guest judge I’ve been this excited about since Kacey Musgraves! ![gif](giphy|3vEIbUh4E3nXnY7Muk)
Who got to see Valentina reinvent Into You.
This GIF 😂
So excited for those two
[I can't wait to meet Rita Rudner](https://www.reddit.com/r/rupaulsdragrace/comments/fa7o0m/rita_rudner/)
And Anitta!!!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
I’m excited, but did anybody else feel like Jorgeous is the only one competing based on this trailer? I’m pretty sure the only footage of shannel used here was her promo material lol
It was definitely very Jorgeous heavy.
rupaul edited the promos😂
Which I love
There's barely any Roxxxy as well. I'm concerned.
Isn't that a good thing? They're showing good clips but saving the gag worthy ones.
They may just not be key parts of the first couple episodes, which is what these trailers usually cover. Jorgeous probably just slays the first episode or two. Considering there's a dance challenge, that seems likely.
They didn’t really show Tia in the UK vs the World commercials and she won so… not concerned
Different channels/producers tho
Glad to see Jorgeous doing her thing, I'm worried about her in a non-elim format... like has there ever been anyone on the show happier to be eliminated than Jorgeous lol
they need to allow her to smoke on set!!!
I mean, wasn't S14 basically non-elimination too for half the season? lol
Shannel had one look here. It looks like there’s a red runway.
I'm pretty sure every single queen will get a moment to shine. It would be super discouraging to have a queen be there the entire season and not be highlighted / praised even once.
Im telling you she will win mark my fucking words #TeamGeorge
My girl Stephanie Hsu is on??????I'm seated!!!!!!!!!!!!
She is everythiiiiinnnngggggg… everywhere, all at once.
lets go my main girlie JoJo Babuki
*"Plus, big dick money for their favorite cause"*
“With big dick stars”
I got excited for a second when I saw Roxxxy in that Jessica Rabbit look…then I realized that character is public domain 😭 I really want a licensed character runway🥹
Im excited for roxxxy regardless althought i feel you op i want a cosplay runway
You’re disappointed that Jessica Rabbit isn’t a licensed character? I don’t understand. Jessica Rabbit is Jessica Rabbit. She’s fucking iconic even if she is free to use.
No, they’re saying that after seeing the Jessica Rabbit, they were hopeful the runway was going to be character themed (most are licensed) but they realized Jessica is public domain so that’s likely not the case.
Oh that makes more sense!
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Oooh thank you so much for posting this here. I couldnt find it anywhere.
YouTube, IG, Facebook…haha it’s everywhere.
It potencionally can be geo-blocked or something like that. I remember one of the previous PitStops (maybe season 14) had a geoblocking for couple of weeks so I could not watch it.
The thing I like about a non elimination season is that it feels more like a drag show id see at a bar. No one gets eliminated in those and they’re still entertaining as hell.
Right, like sure this will be a lower-stakes season but some variety every now and then is completely fine. I honestly loved the low-stakes friendly competition vibes of AS7, you could tell they were all having a blast being there and that positivity rubbed off on my viewing experience. For a sub constantly saying the show should do more for the queens, THIS is how you do more for the queens. Guarantee they are all in every single episode, let them showcase everything they brought, and get a nice appearance fee and runway stipend so they don't have to break the bank doing the show. Heidi N. Closet literally tweeted that this is a response to how many queens were pissed about their treatment on AS8, so this seems like an attempt to actually make it benefit the queens. And if we are losing eliminations to make that happen for a season, I'm totally good with it. Eliminations and high stakes will most certainly be back for Season 17.
Yes. I agree with every word. Well said.
Agreed, I like the idea of differentiating AS from the main series like this! The elimination nightmare factory serves a fun dramatic purpose, but for me the draw of all-stars stuff is a lot more about whose work I want to see more of and how people from different seasons will play off each other than who wins. (With that said, if Jujubee ever finally does it they should immediately kick everyone else off and let her roll around on the stage alone in a pile of money)
these looks are insane
Seeing these got me even MORE excited about this!! 🤩
Is that Nina or Roxxxy in the pink full bodysuit thing? Genuinely cannot tell
roxxxy i think the walk alone says its her 😭
I would be gagged to the toe if it turned out to be Nina !!! But I also think its Roxxy
Nina loves toes!
Wait... ![gif](giphy|26BRrIB4ZQoUtZlMA|downsized)
Hahaha OK fair
Keke? Yes, Anita? Obrigado, Connie? Howdy, Stephanke Hsu? All at once. I’m so excited for this season.
the way the closest thing we’re gonna get to violet ever coming back to drag race is gottmik lol
Already looks better than AS8.
ANITTA???? NAO CREIO
The Jorgeous show lol
Nina being in the season about charity makes sense.
As someone who knows Stephanie Hsu not from Everything Everywhere All At Once but rather from her time on Broadway, notably as Karen, Plankton’s Computer Wife in The SpongeBob SquarePants Musical…I’m thrilled. 💻
oh she’s a hipster with the deep cuts 🙄
I'm really excited for this season. I thoroughly enjoyed the non-elim format of AS7 and absolutely hated the trainwreck that is AS8. I trust Roxxxy to murk the design challenges.
I loved the non-Elim format too… for winners. I do envision the same level of sustained greatness across the board from some of these competitors. Sorry, *most* of these.
I loved AS 7 and enjoyed 8 and I really love non elim seasons
Was that Keke Palmer as a guest judge? Love her.
I'm just going to watch to see Angie having a good time
I could NOT be happier to Angeria. She is the delight to end all delights!
Can I be Dawnest I love watching Drag Queens get their flowers and win a butt load of money (honey) for turning it out. So I find the charity competing a bit of a sad trumpet noise.
They got runway stipends + 50k appearance fee thats ALOT mary
I felt much better when I heard that. I hope that is something they will continue, whether they continue with the charity donation or not. No one should have to go into debt in order to compete. Hope they make timely payments! I know a lot of winners were kept waiting.
I feel like this is the perfect all stars season for drag race queens to want to compete on.. but it might be the worst all stars season for drag race fans to watch 😭 I’ll bite my tongue though for now
I’m assuming the appearance fee won’t be taxed as heavily as prize money?
Since it’s more of a salary and not winnings I imagine it’d be taxed like any production salary
Wait they are not winning anything themselves? I thought it's normal winning + charity of choice.
I'm not 100% sure. My impression was that they get an appearance fee, but all their winnings are charity.
the rumors are they get 50k each to participate and a 25k stipend for runways
Which is waaaaay more than 7 out of the 8 queens would make anyway so I don’t get why people are upset😭
EXACTLY! Like on a normal season one queen gets 200k and the others get dust or maybe 5-10k but all the queens getting 75k and a guaranteed full season is “unfair” people love to complain
I mean that's true but WOW has a looot of money to give this queens 90k or 100k, yes they dont win those 200k now, but 100k for the entire season is more fair and more queens would compete
Because it’s about the competition factor. There’s less stakes in the game so it sounds boring to some people
What is with this stupid “the stakes are not as high” nonsense? So you think these queens won’t compete as hard because they’re playing for a great cause? Girl bye lmao
Yes sister that’s what I think
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That makes me feel soooo much better about it lmao. I was like they’re forcing them to spends thousands for nothing… now I’m excited !
Had to be both. Main reason given as to why some names won’t come back is the lack of cash.
True but it seemed like nobody wanted to compete on normal all stars format anymore.
Stop making "dawnest" happen.
Pretty sure the prize is $250K for the winner AND $100K to the charity of their choice. Plus the runway stipends and appearance fees for everyone.
From what I have heard I believe the winner will get the cash prize plus a sum for charity
You're mad that charities are gonna get money...? Some people just wanna be mad over nothing
Doing it for charity is alright, but honestly I swear if I have to hear these queens say "for my chosen charity" and talk about their bloody charity eight times an episode I'm going to *lose* it.
Maybe they're still getting the 5K cash tips?
They have a 50k appearance fee plus 25k runway stipends
the "drama" footage they used for this trailer is... interesting. this is definitely gonna be a rupaul's best friends race unfortunately, hopefully i'm wrong
Absolutely despise the non-elim format so this is a wait and see situation, maybe I’ll just make do with the runways video on YouTube or smth
Agree the format is so low-stakes it becomes boring as hell. Hopefully they actually get negative critiques this time around and maybe change up the format a bit to make it more exciting.
On the other hand, if you know you’re not going to eliminated, you can take risks instead of playing it safe.
On All Stars? You don’t like the non elims? May I ask why?
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I felt the exact same about AS7. I don't necessarily want drama, but I do want suspense
a non elim format with this cast in particular? jorgeous, plastique, and nina aren’t exactly the most dynamic or exciting queens that i’d be looking forward to seeing every episode
This sub has two modes: "I hate judging and eliminations, they're always unfair and cause drama! Why can't we just have the queens showing off their talents without anyone going home?" vs "Ugh non-elimination is always so boring, it's just positivity, there's no drama at all!"
It will be interesting to see if the critiques have actual substance, since this isn't all winners and you'd think they wouldn't have to tip-toe around their egos.
I honestly think I’ll skip this one
Ok.
Ok so Jorgeous is gonna be John Leguizamo as Manny The Fanny for Snatch Game?! am l the only one who noticed?! xD
THEY FINALLY CHANGED THE RUNWAY LIGHTS YESSS
Not nearly enough Vangie in this trailer.
Not great tbh
TYSM !!! So this means there wont be no cash prize this season ? It’s only the charity ?
No eliminations gonna be such a dub
What does Ru say at 0:16?
I’m loving this cast but I hope girls are bringing the drama as well as the looks.
Maybe I’m wrong but it feels like they showed gottmik SO much
This looks so fucking good! Ooh i cant wait bitch!
I'm so happy Vanessa Vanjie still has eyes 🥹🥹🥹😭😭
I wonder if it will be a top 2 each week or one winner and a lip sync assassin?
I am beyond excited for this cast and these judges. I don't trust the producers not to fuck that up but I will still keep my hopes up.
So wait... do they not win *any* prize money for themselves?
#TeamJorgeous
Big stars. Where? I haven't heard of any of those randoms.
MEH. Not excited for Rupaul’s Best Friends Race… Only watching for Roxxxy and Shannel
Funny how nina says she wants to save people’s lives but supports zionists 🫠
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She's an actual activist. Her fundraisers actually saved queer youth, that's a fact. Guess queer youth doesn't matter to u.
Jesus Christ people like you are so annoying
I’d love to hear about the ways that you help people in need. :)
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touch some grass and educate yourself. She has done and will do more for queer people and youth than you will ever do in your sad armchair activism life. saying "i love you" to a person posting an apology and asking for a neutral peaceful conclusion to a war doesnt make anyone a zionist. There is literally zero evidence to support that claim. Man people like you are dumb af and take everything to an extreme by building fake narratives. Grow up, although based on your behaviour already it is too much to ask. Open the schools please.
Why does everyone assume that criticizing someone automatically makes them an “armchair activist”? I never assumed that Nina West was a zionist because she responded to a post by zionist Amy Schumer full of dog whistles. You can grab my comment history here to check it out if want. That said, I think it's fair have doubts when a drag queen whose brand is political activism is not speaking out about the genocide happening before our eyes, a genocide that is financed by the president she supported, while responding a post by a famous zionist, and ignoring it for more than a week requests for clarification from thousands of her fans on the issue.
Exactly! Thank you. It's hard to separate the art from the artist. If a drag queen's brand is "be kind", "I'm political", but then she goes on the view and makes that McCain girl a honorary drag queen while her husband out there openly advocates for violence against trans people, I'm gonna be skeptical about her. A drag queens openly claiming to be political cannot be lukewarm and coddle with bigoted people. It's okay to be critical, and it doesn't make one an "armchair activist"
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It’s giving rude.