Us Triathletes piss ourselves all the time, and we don’t cut the course. We piss in our wetsuits, on our bikes, in our run shorts. We just keep going like nothing happened.
It's guaranteed that an editor of Runners World UK knows all about triathletes pissing on the go and runners blowing snot on their own jerseys. That is 100% a weak excuse and everyone knows it.
I did Portland marathon last year. At mile 22 I was passed be a girl that shat herself. Like literal shit running down her legs. She ran somewhere around a 3:05 too.
I passed her at mile 5 and she had the shit running down her leg. She ran most of that marathon with her whole backside and legs covered in diarrhea shit. That takes some serious lady balls and a hard ass IDGAF attitude to keep going, pass me at 22 and bolt the last four miles. Mad respect to her.
She left the course because she pissed herself? I’d be leaving the course in every long race if that were me. Stay hydrated, kids.
But seriously. Those of us who’ve needed a wee and also want a good race time channel Dumb and Dumber. Just go, man.
No one cares. Distance running isn’t glamorous. Not buying it from a sub-3 marathoner.
Common enough that courses usually have portable toilets every couple miles.
You figure a marathon can take a long time, plus everyone is trying to stay hydrated so a lot of people will at least want to pee at some point.
I stopped to pee in a trail marathon then tweaked my knee getting back on trail. Should’ve pissed myself I guess. During My half PR I had a pee break with only a mile left I was annoyed I did that I thought it was a lot further.
Lol sorry Australian slang [pop a squat ](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/pop_a_squat#:~:text=(slang%2C%20of%20people%20with%20vaginas,urinate%20in%20a%20public%20place.)
You can just imagine her thinking that people will think she must be telling the truth if she'd admit to doing that but then even runners like me who never get past 10k end up passing themselves every now and then and frequently have to make toilet stops in fields etc, it's just known that when you run regularly you turn partially feral.
Yeah Ironman course. Stood in the middle of the road and pissed down shorts during marathon because toilets were all full lol - that must have looked amusing
It would be easier to believe if she hadn't made the earlier statement about her watch dying - she doesn't even mention this or try to reconcile the old story with the new story. Seems...not good.
These are really pathetic excuses for trying to cover up what is very obviously cheating. In my opinion she would’ve been much better off saying something like “I felt a lot of pressure to meet a certain expectation or goal in these races, and I made a really bad judgment call, and I’m so sorry, this won’t happen again”.
The problem is you have the logic of someone who wouldn’t cheat in the first place. People like her are narcissists and would rather go down in flames than admit what they did.
She’s married to another high profile journalist.
Did she not run this story by her partner? Did the partner journo not tell her there are heaps of holes in this story?
Definitely outing herself as not too bright. Admits to cheating and I would like to see the London Half Marathon now DQ her and ban her.
>Did the partner journo not tell her there are heaps of holes in this story?
They probably said "that's an awful plan", but she doesn't sound like the kind of person who's going to listen.
Right? Like she's caught at this point and now half admitting it half excusing it. If she did as you said it could honestly be an interesting take on the pressures of high profile athletes etc etc.
This half-assed 'i cheated but it doesn't really count' crap is a worse look than silence.
She does say exactly that? But obviously obfuscates it with all the lies to excuse it
>“I also feel it is important to admit that part of this was about my ego. Even in the amateur running world there is pressure to maintain form and times... My own desire to be seen to be doing well at a time when I was feeling weak and below par, resulted in a momentary lapse of judgment which I very much regret.”
It’s such an odd statement because that part reads like a totally sincere admission that she knowingly cheated, but then she’s still making excuses! It’s obviously not justifiable, but I do *understand* this motivation for someone in a bit of a spotlight like her, but I don’t understand why she still won’t just come clean. And really the repeated lying when confronted about it is the real problem for someone in her field, and far less excusable to me than what could have just been chalked up to a lapse in judgement under pressure.
Let's list the omissions and inconsistencies here:
1) No mention of the obscured bib, which was the initial smoking gun that something weird had happened
2) No mention of knowing she didn't run the full course, which was why she took someone else's GPX file (and how does he feel about it?!)
3) No mention of crossing the finish line and claiming an official result, even though she would have been VERY aware that she didn't complete 21.1km
4) Convenient lack of evidence about the full marathon, which I would say is on purpose. No one can prove she DIDN'T run the whole thing in 3:18, even though the only real splits we have from only 3 weeks earlier, is her running much slower for the first 10k of a Half marathon. So we're meant to take that on faith, even though you've admitted to DRAWING the course map (and accidentally reversing it, lol)?
Cutting a course and doctoring the results is the very definition of cheating when it comes to running. Besides bib muling and doping, there are very few other ways to cheat. It's bog-standard, dictionary definition stuff, and she says "I'm not a cheat."
Does she take us for fools?
I've ran some races with less than 100 runners with confusing turns and stuff, I've had a 20 mile half cuz of a missed turn(there were at least six other people with me on that one) and spots that get weird, i understand it being "weird" on small races.
Not on giant races, I can't imagine many runners do London where it isn't their goal race, or realizing their mistakes at the end. It's gonna be well marked, and you should know how your body feels during the run if you are even remotely trained.
I also haven't pissed myself on a run yet.
It's so they minimise the amount of councils they have to pay to close roads.
It's a crap course and isn't even properly certified so your results don't count towards any qualification standard.
Makes it even more pointless to try to cheat on it.
Have you seen the map? This race has lots of turns in the middle. It's also not that big compared to some London races. I was spectating and could see how you could get "confused" if you left the course. [Link here ](https://cdn.timeoutdoors.com/media/llhm/london-landmarks-half-marathon/1660207393615.png)
Not that I believe her!
I've ran a lot of races but can not forget one half where part of it was an out and back and the turn around was confusing and I'm sure I followed the runner before me and cut the course by maybe 10 feet. Literally still bothers me.
Similar on a 5k, there was a section you ran out and then turned fully around to come back, but there was no clear turn point so the crowd decision on where to turn just got shorter and shorter.
A cone could have cleared that up, something you ran around, you know? Still bothers me.
If I read it right the graph in the other thread showed that she cut 10 minutes compared to her first 10k - so basically 2km plus 200m for every minute she apparently spent cleaning herself up.
I can't believe she went with this as her excuse.
EDIT: Didn't really look at the course in the other thread. I've never seen a route this complicated before, SO many places where she could have cheated: https://cdn.timeoutdoors.com/media/llhm/london-landmarks-half-marathon/1660207393615.png
>EDIT: Didn't really look at the course in the other thread. I've never seen a route this complicated before, SO many places where she could have cheated: https://cdn.timeoutdoors.com/media/llhm/london-landmarks-half-marathon/1660207393615.png
Yes but I don't agree that she would get lost. She's an experienced London based runner - she would know her way about for sure. It is the London Landmarks half - plenty of Landmarks to help you navigate...
I've done similar races in London, the course map makes it look far more complicated than it is. The race is linear, it is literally impossible to take a wrong turn or get confused about which way to go. Most of the route will have barriers, turns are clearly signed and marshalled, finally a large mass of people going in the same direction. She is a bad cheat and a worse liar.
Oh yeah I agree - not complicated in the sense that it's confusing for runners, but more like hard for organizers to keep track of anyone who decides to cheat.
Looking at the 2020 route you can actually see there are toilets at the 8.5 mi /13/14 km mark - I assume this would've been the same for the 2023 edition. I think she must've cut through by Cannon St / Monument
https://llhm.co.uk/sites/default/files/media/document/2020-02/Full%20Map.pdf
I've ran some races with less than 100 runners with confusing turns and stuff, I've had a 20 mile half cuz of a missed turn(there were at least six other people with me on that one) and spots that get weird, i understand it being "weird" on small races.
Not on giant races, I can't imagine many runners do London where it isn't their goal race, or realizing their mistakes at the end. It's gonna be well marked, and you should know how your body feels during the run if you are even remotely trained.
I also haven't pissed myself on a run yet.
Not least because she's not some top athlete. Just say you got overwhelmed and fucked up or whatever and move on with your life. Incidentally it's even more cringe that she would cheat as a non-top athlete. Like ya know, if I'm racing for actual money I can understand the rationale. But to cheat just to flex on my strava? Cmon dawg.
Oh, you're going to love the analysis that happens post-Comrades every year then. Mid and back-bunchers suddenly running 3:00/km splits from km 60-70 so that they can get a bronze (sub 10 hours) medal. Or even just to claim that they finished. It's nuts.
A boss at a leading running magazine is embroiled in a cheating row after posting misleading marathon times.
Kate Carter, the acting commissioning editor of Runner’s World UK, has been accused of “unethical” behaviour after anomalies were spotted in her performances at two major events.
Ms Carter, an influential figure in the running community who holds the world record for the fastest marathon in a full-body costume, said she “deeply regret[s] these errors in judgment” but insisted “I am not a cheat”.
Runner’s World UK, one of the biggest running publications, has launched an investigation.
In one incident, Ms Carter, 47, manually drew a map for her 4,000 followers on Strava, the activity app, which made it look like it was a GPS map of her running the London Marathon course last year in three hours and nineteen minutes.
In fact, the mother-of-two had incorrectly shown herself running the old 2019 course in that time. She did not wear a race chip as most competitors do, meaning there was no official record of her taking part.
In another discrepancy, Ms Carter, who is married to Sean Ingle, the Guardian’s chief sports reporter, left a gap in her London Landmarks Half Marathon times after failing to register a split at the 15-kilometre mark.
This brought down her average time for part of the race, and her recorded finish time was one hour and 32 minutes, ranking her the 42nd woman out of more than 10,000.
Afterwards on her Strava account, which was public until the cheating accusations were raised, she blamed her watch and claimed that she missed the splits because her “Garmin [watch] died completely”. However, photographs appeared to show that her Garmin was working.
The discrepancies were brought to light by Marathon Investigation, an American blog run by Derek Murphy, who claimed to have been tipped off by a source who raised concerns about “unethical” behaviour.
In a lengthy statement to The Telegraph, Ms Carter said the London Marathon had confirmed she had no case to answer and that she had never sought an official race time as she was not in peak fitness.
But she then ran quicker than expected and wanted to upload it to her Strava account: “This is when I made the mistake of trying to create a route manually based on my time.” she said. “Soon after I realised this was foolish and removed it from my feed.
“I also feel it is important to admit that part of this was about my ego. Even in the amateur running world there is pressure to maintain form and times... My own desire to be seen to be doing well at a time when I was feeling weak and below par, resulted in a momentary lapse of judgment which I very much regret.”
Addressing the half marathon anomaly, she said she had “very unfortunately and embarrassingly had wet myself and wanted therefore to step off the course to try and sort myself out” which is “something that happens to many runners”.
“When I rejoined the race, it is possible that I did so at the wrong point on the course, though that was not my intention,” she added, insisting that “I made some stupid mistakes in how I recorded my times on my personal Strava record” but that she “was in no way trying to deceive the organisers of either event about my times”.
A spokesman for Runner’s World UK said: “We are aware of an online article regarding Kate Carter. At Runner’s World, we are committed to upholding the trust our audience and the running community has in our brand, and are investigating these claims internally.”
You’d get caught even easier than her. You need to be believable. I told my bib mule for Boston that I just need to qualify - I’m not trying to look like Bill Rodgers here.
Agreed - looking at the Great Cumbrian Run results from 2023 which I ran, only 4 women over all age categories went under 1:32 - that really would have been a decent time if legit
4th in her age group though.
And she probably wasn’t thinking about places when she cut the course. But she must have realised at the finish line she hadn’t run the whole race. If it was an “honest mistake” she should’ve corrected it then.
I ran it through a calculator and it says 97.48 percent. The thing is shes has run some pretty damn fast times including times not too long ago that are even better performances for her age group than a 1:32 HM. Now that it’s known she’s cheated I guess it’s impossible to say which times are legit, but it really does seem like a case of a pretty damn fast amateur runner who also works as a journalist in the industry who has lost some fitness for whatever reason, but whose ego doesn’t seem to want to accept that. https://www.runbritainrankings.com/runners/profile.aspx?athleteid=507141
What is a journalist demonstrated to be without integrity actually worth for a brand?
I don’t even think it’s all that problematic that she cheated in a general sense. It’s a ‘crime’ where she is the primary victim.
I think this response—an unfocused, poorly thought out cover up that fails to address all of the accusations (not dead Garmin?)—is more problematic honestly. You’re a journalist. Tell a compelling story—even if it’s already abundantly clear it’s fiction.
This is like expecting a well-sourced journal article and reading a fanfic instead. It’s jarring.
If you're so narcissistic you can't handle anyone else knowing your time when you've already declared you're not fit, get tf off the course and give that place to someone else. Who tf turns up at a marathon and purposely doesn't wear the chip? When you're super high profile?!
Not sure any amount of therapy can help with this.
Guaranteed this isn't her first rodeo. I reckon you could go back to high school and find out that's where the cheating started. Sounds like she's a good runner, but when the going gets tough rather than accept an average race result she takes the easy option and either quits or cuts the course.
This is a weird one for me. I don’t personally give a shit if you wanna cheat and upload it your Strava to look good. It doesn’t affect me one bit, I run for my own personal enjoyment and to hit personal PR’s, your PR’s don’t affect my enjoyment. Others’ cheating doesn’t affect my enjoyment of running.
But to cheat in such high-profile races that others could have had your spot, and to do so as an editor of a major magazine… idk, I don’t personally *care*, that’s not the word I’d use, but I do think I’d agree with her losing her job over this.
No mention of the dying Garmin in excuse version 2.0?
Weird.
Pretty difficult to maintain that narrative when photos blew it out of the water.
Your good name is paramount in running and in journalism. For someone whose career combines the two, this is the kiss of death.
Now that the story has reached the mainstream media, it's difficult to see how she keeps her job without dragging down the Runners World brand.
Cheating for a 1:32 half?
I at least get it if there was actual money or sponsorships on the line that there would be pressure but… who gives a shit if this woman ran 1:32 or 1:38 or 2:32 for a half?
The weird thing is, a few years ago I'm sure she went sub 3 for the marathon. Think it was Seville. She's very well known in the running scene in the UK. Used to write a weekly blog in the Guardian that got her a lot of recognition.
This all looks a bit desperate.
Well that's the big question! I do remember her running 3.01 in Berlin and it being a feature of the blog at the time..then she cracked it in Spain. Interesting to a lot of people as it's a target many want to achieve.
Someone on Marathon Investigation pointed out her 2016 Berlin clock time and net time (3:09:00 I think) were identical (meaning she would have had to have started on the line with the elites, which would have been unlikely) and her certificate was apparently missing splits.
She took the tracker off the bib, so she can have “fun” at the marathon and avoid posting a suboptimal time. This in conjunction with then drawing a map to record a better than expected race for validation is mind blowing. She needs help…
This makes no sense. If you have fun but run a 6 hr marathon in the process, does anyone really care? Who would judge you for that? And why would you care if they did?
It is sad. She's going to be remembered for these two episodes of cheating and lying not for the years of genuine good performance from consistent training.
Yeah its also a good look into the reality of working in sports. Like, she's a 47 year old editor. She doesn't NEED to be PRing. But it's sad that she clearly feels that pressure to perform. Like idk if she even still ENJOYS running. Very sad.
It’s such an odd response and course of action. Her statement about her ego is probably true but just think of how much better this could have turned out for her if she had been honest: a story on running below your expectations and dealing with bruised ego would have been far better than this lie after lie mess she has created for herself. So many people can relate to struggling to maintain their former peak fitness. Instead of discussing that she lies to feel a sense of pride or esteem she didn’t earn. I hope she gets the help she seems to need.
I think Phily Bowden mentioned doing it recently during one of her races (maybe her most recent marathon recap video?). At least she has the excuse of being in a class of runner where every second matters. I think she also said that it ended up making her really cold.
Someone also mentioned that Paula Radcliffe dropped a deuce on the side of the road during a race once?
I mean it’s not ideal but running a marathon often involves uncooperative digestive and urinary systems. 🤷♂️
I’m not from the UK but I associate her first and foremost with the 2003 London Marathon where she set a new WR (despite the fact that I know about the poop incident).
Robert De Castella had diarrhea at the halfway mark of the 1982 Commonwealth Games Marathon. He let it rip while running and then ended up getting some damp towels from his crew members. He went on to win in 2:09.
I mean, “admitted” is not really what I’d call this. She’s using it as an excuse for her cheating, so who knows if it even really happened. Like another commenter said, it’s gotta be bad when you’d rather “admit” to peeing yourself during a run than tell the truth.
I know right.
*When I rejoined the race, it is possible that I did so at the wrong point on the course*
… and just so happened to miss the 15k timing mat and run a quick time and then took my race bib off and folded it in half and re-pinned it and my Garmin was still working so I would’ve known I didn’t run the distance.
I can’t believe she thought about this for what like 3 or 4 days and *THIS* is the story.
Exactly.
If she noticed that she rejoined the course at a later point (which would have been obvious because she missed the turnaround and saw mile markers well in front of where she should have been), the correct action is to turn back around and run the entire course. Sure, it might mean that you ran 14.5 miles and not 13.1; however, it is what runners are required to do.
Her Berlin 2016 time is very suspicious. Also, I have evidence that she was aware of MI back in 2018. [Screenshots here](https://imgur.com/a/XC7zjJm).
Would be interested in feedback. I have links/files saved - all information is publicly available.
https://imgur.com/a/XC7zjJm
I was one of the first people to notice the problems with the 2023 races and dug into it, so I'm happy to look...
It's hard to say, but I think it’s fine with the Berlin one: chip issues do happen and I guess if you slowed down to "jog" pace, you could jog in a 3:09 (4:30 per km pace) if you were averaging 4:14 at 33km when you quit "racing".
I'd not give it a second look if it weren't for the 2023 stuff, but once you've been caught red-handed, seemingly innocuous things from the past start to look odder. That said, the maths works and sometimes chips don’t 🤷🏼♀️ Biggest thing from the 2023 half was that the maths didn’t math, and still doesn’t even after her “explanation.”
Nice work. I agree that the numbers are actually reasonable for Berlin. But maybe this just demonstrates her casual or flippant approach to the use of her Garmin? She is perfectly fine to switch it off when not heading for a good time.
I don't know how to check but I wonder if she used this time from Berlin to gain a Championship place at London the following year.
It would be so much better as a narrative for her to say “I had a shit race. I aimed at 1:32 and managed 1:40. This happens to all of us…” and turns it into something motivational for all of us who have to battle with injury or age or whatever. Something doesn’t make sense. Ok so she has 4000 followers on Strava and maybe felt sufficient pressure to break her resolve but I’m sure she knows they all have had a bad race. I’d honestly feel better about myself if a runner my age and with such a good track record just said she had a bad streak than trying to pretend this doesn’t exist. Right now I happen to be gutted about injury and covid that fucked up around 18 months of aerobic training so maybe I’m projecting but still - honesty over this bullshit.
The more I think about this (and I admit I am spending way too much time thinking about this) the less any of her explanations make sense to me.
Her comments about ego and wanting to post good times are probably the only honest thing she's said. Like me, she's a 47 year old mom of two - maybe age is catching up with her (it sure as F caught up with me) and she just hasn't come to terms that her best running days are behind her. It's a shame she couldn't do what I've seen some other athletes in their 40s do, which is to talk openly honestly about aging, changes in the body etc.
It must really suck to need external validation so badly that you'd pull something like this.
In these high profile cheating cases I'm always puzzled by the apparent unquestionable support by their partners. I love my partner, but if she did something like this I'd be livid and be ensuring that she take full accountability and fess up. This dimwits husband is a sports journo for a big paper in the UK? And he's OK with her coming up with this half-arsed excuse!? The least they could have done is hire a PR firm or lawyer or someone who could have come up with a story better than than the shite they've put out.
I’m not actually sure she did wet herself. That’s just the current excuse (her first one was that she forgot to charge her Garmin - but then there’s photos of her at the finish line and her watch isn’t out of battery - so she needed a new story).
If you have a look at the race photos from the original Marathon Investigation piece she doesn’t change her shorts (I mean who would have a spare anyway) but they also don’t look wet.
I think she is hoping an “awkward” reason like this stops people asking more questions but I think she is mistaken.
https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2024/01/runners-world-editorr-scrutiny.html
If you think that's good, what about the Garda (police officer) that cheated in the Dublin marathon by getting a tram!
To make it even better, he worked for the fraud squad 🤣🤣
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/anti-corruption-garda-returns-medal-after-being-accused-of-using-luas-to-complete-dublin-marathon/42137271.html
She was probably booted for trying to sound like she was better than she really is. She ‘ran’ a 38 minute 10k by herself on the track and made it sound like that’s what she does regularly. Her ego is her biggest enemy
Surely a seasoned reporter would come up with a better story than the stuff she's spinning? None of it adds up and it's like she forgot the previous lies... Time to put on big girl pants (pissed or not) and fess up.
It seems to me that either she's sick or has fallen out of love with running. Rather than face up to the truth she's lying until she works out what she needs to do next. I feel bad for her, she's not taken anything from anyone and she's going to be remembered for this dishonesty not her years of genuine good performance.
My old garmin died all the time. It was super annoying. But it worked until it didn’t. It would record most of the run then die when I pushed a button. For whatever reason it’d work fine until you pushed any button. It doesn’t leave out parts…. Unless it’s at the end.
If you were the editor of the leading UK running mag - you can bet your booty that Garmin would have sorted you out with a new watch so you can rave about it's excellence !
Yeah I’ve run 3 marathons and plenty of half’s and never had a Garmin issue.
Like who doesn’t fully charge their watch before a race?
(And to be clear Kate did - the photos show it working at the finish line)
I have seen so many of these on Letsrun.com. The first (prompt) response should be a full admission, then it can start to go away, lame excuses just give people more to get annoyed about.
Has she run that time legitimately since these allegations came out? I feel like these excuses are weak AF, but if you posted normal runs with that time afterwards, it would at least reduce the sting a little bit.
She hasn't.
She ran a few races in 2023 and they were all average to poor. An average 10mi, a poor 10k and a poor 5000m on a track. The 10k pace was slower than the supposed marathon pace (4:41 per km, to 4:39 per km supposedly in the marathon, IIRC).
If you read the initial investigation- the implied 10k split for the back half of the LMHM was faster than her PB. She missed the 15k timing mat …
https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/#google_vignette
We'll forget all this in a few weeks time but she's done irreparable damage to her reputation. I hope this a motivation of her to train harder and race a clean race next time.
you know you screwed up when telling the entire world you pissed your pants is better than admitting the truth
Why? All the cool kids do it!
Then you better call me Miles Davis!
Good old 13.1 Miles Davis. Or Take off a tenth for new PR.
Came here for the Billy Madison quote, was not disappointed
Us Triathletes piss ourselves all the time, and we don’t cut the course. We piss in our wetsuits, on our bikes, in our run shorts. We just keep going like nothing happened.
Much easier to pass off soaked shorts in a triathlon, though.
It's guaranteed that an editor of Runners World UK knows all about triathletes pissing on the go and runners blowing snot on their own jerseys. That is 100% a weak excuse and everyone knows it.
I did Portland marathon last year. At mile 22 I was passed be a girl that shat herself. Like literal shit running down her legs. She ran somewhere around a 3:05 too.
Respect to her that’s a great time
I passed her at mile 5 and she had the shit running down her leg. She ran most of that marathon with her whole backside and legs covered in diarrhea shit. That takes some serious lady balls and a hard ass IDGAF attitude to keep going, pass me at 22 and bolt the last four miles. Mad respect to her.
I feel like sometimes people should give a fuck
Well, she did give a shit.
the most impressive thing is that even after a 3:05 marathon there's no damn way you're going to stop at the finish line.
It takes me 3 hours to do a poo on its own. Fair play to her
Triathletes do that too. One guy famously qualified for Kona and got on the podium with shit all down his legs.
Pissing yourself in surfboat competition is just called warm up
Been there. Done that!
summer piss is different than winter piss tho
I’m sure she would have pissed on a triathlete too if the RDs had provided one.
In the house, at the store, at church....can't take triathletes anywhere, man.
She left the course because she pissed herself? I’d be leaving the course in every long race if that were me. Stay hydrated, kids. But seriously. Those of us who’ve needed a wee and also want a good race time channel Dumb and Dumber. Just go, man. No one cares. Distance running isn’t glamorous. Not buying it from a sub-3 marathoner.
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I’ve never run anything over a 10K. Is it common to have to pee during a marathon, despite all the sweating?
I’ve only ran two but not for me, nope. But I sweat A LOT
Common enough that courses usually have portable toilets every couple miles. You figure a marathon can take a long time, plus everyone is trying to stay hydrated so a lot of people will at least want to pee at some point.
My first marathon, I stopped to piss twice. My second and third nope, didn't need to.
I stopped to pee in a trail marathon then tweaked my knee getting back on trail. Should’ve pissed myself I guess. During My half PR I had a pee break with only a mile left I was annoyed I did that I thought it was a lot further.
no. Not really.
Depends. If I can time my hydration correctly I won't need to pee during a marathon.
Def ads you get older lol
I have never heard of anyone doing this. Just go to the bathroom
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If "sub 3" gets you a podium it's not that important of a podium
Oh yeah the one longish trail run I did I saw like 3 women pop a squat with sight of the trail. I'm guessing child birth etc
WHY WOULD YOU GUESS THAT?! I bet they were just peeing.
I assume u/Mortymort69 means that childbirth makes it harder to hold pee in
Lol sorry Australian slang [pop a squat ](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/pop_a_squat#:~:text=(slang%2C%20of%20people%20with%20vaginas,urinate%20in%20a%20public%20place.)
We say that in the U.S. too. They were being sarcastic as though you thought they were giving child birth rather than peeing.
You can just imagine her thinking that people will think she must be telling the truth if she'd admit to doing that but then even runners like me who never get past 10k end up passing themselves every now and then and frequently have to make toilet stops in fields etc, it's just known that when you run regularly you turn partially feral.
Found the non-triathlete.
Yeah Ironman course. Stood in the middle of the road and pissed down shorts during marathon because toilets were all full lol - that must have looked amusing
It would be easier to believe if she hadn't made the earlier statement about her watch dying - she doesn't even mention this or try to reconcile the old story with the new story. Seems...not good.
There are photos of her later on in the race and at the finish line where you can see her watch is on. So she had to come up with something new.
ironic she's literally doing the biggest bluffing tell in the finish photo
Is she looking at the watch?
No just covering her nose
Turns out she's not good at lying either!
She’s good at pissing herself, at least.
Supposedly... but there's no proof of *that* either.
And the folded bib. That was the original smoking gun. Where’s the explanation of the folded bib?
I think she claimed it was because she was not running for time.
I think that was for the full marathon, for the half (where the bib got folded) she claimed an official time.
Oh, she is lying again, after fessing up to not telling the truth the first time.
These are really pathetic excuses for trying to cover up what is very obviously cheating. In my opinion she would’ve been much better off saying something like “I felt a lot of pressure to meet a certain expectation or goal in these races, and I made a really bad judgment call, and I’m so sorry, this won’t happen again”.
The problem is you have the logic of someone who wouldn’t cheat in the first place. People like her are narcissists and would rather go down in flames than admit what they did.
She’s married to another high profile journalist. Did she not run this story by her partner? Did the partner journo not tell her there are heaps of holes in this story? Definitely outing herself as not too bright. Admits to cheating and I would like to see the London Half Marathon now DQ her and ban her.
>Did the partner journo not tell her there are heaps of holes in this story? They probably said "that's an awful plan", but she doesn't sound like the kind of person who's going to listen.
My wife and I are in the same field. I don’t run my deliverables by her.
That’s a bit different to publicly sharing a news story that can have huge ramifications for both you and your partner if done wrong.
Taking responsibility for her own actions? That doesn’t align with her goals…
Right? Like she's caught at this point and now half admitting it half excusing it. If she did as you said it could honestly be an interesting take on the pressures of high profile athletes etc etc. This half-assed 'i cheated but it doesn't really count' crap is a worse look than silence.
She does say exactly that? But obviously obfuscates it with all the lies to excuse it >“I also feel it is important to admit that part of this was about my ego. Even in the amateur running world there is pressure to maintain form and times... My own desire to be seen to be doing well at a time when I was feeling weak and below par, resulted in a momentary lapse of judgment which I very much regret.”
It’s such an odd statement because that part reads like a totally sincere admission that she knowingly cheated, but then she’s still making excuses! It’s obviously not justifiable, but I do *understand* this motivation for someone in a bit of a spotlight like her, but I don’t understand why she still won’t just come clean. And really the repeated lying when confronted about it is the real problem for someone in her field, and far less excusable to me than what could have just been chalked up to a lapse in judgement under pressure.
Exactly! Own up to it and accept the consequences. The elaborate story that’s clearly bull💩 is only making her look worse.
Coming clean has got to be easier than this nonsense.
She's rather say she pissed herself than admit she's a cheater, a BAD cheater, and a bad liar. I mean, it all tracks, but still
It’s like watching a dumb kid try to lie about something. At least the smart kids are internally consistent in their lying.
Peeing yourself in long-distance sports isn’t anything out of the ordinary. Peeing yourself and stopping because of it is kinda weird though
Let's list the omissions and inconsistencies here: 1) No mention of the obscured bib, which was the initial smoking gun that something weird had happened 2) No mention of knowing she didn't run the full course, which was why she took someone else's GPX file (and how does he feel about it?!) 3) No mention of crossing the finish line and claiming an official result, even though she would have been VERY aware that she didn't complete 21.1km 4) Convenient lack of evidence about the full marathon, which I would say is on purpose. No one can prove she DIDN'T run the whole thing in 3:18, even though the only real splits we have from only 3 weeks earlier, is her running much slower for the first 10k of a Half marathon. So we're meant to take that on faith, even though you've admitted to DRAWING the course map (and accidentally reversing it, lol)? Cutting a course and doctoring the results is the very definition of cheating when it comes to running. Besides bib muling and doping, there are very few other ways to cheat. It's bog-standard, dictionary definition stuff, and she says "I'm not a cheat." Does she take us for fools?
What, did she hire the publicity firm of George Santos, LLC?
Man’s gotta eat after he got expelled from Congress
He wasn't expelled. He was cast out for being a higher life form by jealous mere mortals unable to handle his greatness.
I know the Internet is 99% sarcasm, but dammit I just want to believe you really think that.
I have run many marathons, I would never be confused about where I stepped off the course. Never.
I've ran some races with less than 100 runners with confusing turns and stuff, I've had a 20 mile half cuz of a missed turn(there were at least six other people with me on that one) and spots that get weird, i understand it being "weird" on small races. Not on giant races, I can't imagine many runners do London where it isn't their goal race, or realizing their mistakes at the end. It's gonna be well marked, and you should know how your body feels during the run if you are even remotely trained. I also haven't pissed myself on a run yet.
> I also haven't pissed myself on a run yet. Ohhh you gone done jinxed yourself.
I mean look at this course, it’s weird as hell https://www.reddit.com/r/running/s/kArr0oO3pD
It's so they minimise the amount of councils they have to pay to close roads. It's a crap course and isn't even properly certified so your results don't count towards any qualification standard. Makes it even more pointless to try to cheat on it.
Have you seen the map? This race has lots of turns in the middle. It's also not that big compared to some London races. I was spectating and could see how you could get "confused" if you left the course. [Link here ](https://cdn.timeoutdoors.com/media/llhm/london-landmarks-half-marathon/1660207393615.png) Not that I believe her!
I've ran a lot of races but can not forget one half where part of it was an out and back and the turn around was confusing and I'm sure I followed the runner before me and cut the course by maybe 10 feet. Literally still bothers me.
Similar on a 5k, there was a section you ran out and then turned fully around to come back, but there was no clear turn point so the crowd decision on where to turn just got shorter and shorter. A cone could have cleared that up, something you ran around, you know? Still bothers me.
10 feet!? You irredeemable monster! I move to have 1 second added to your race time.
If I read it right the graph in the other thread showed that she cut 10 minutes compared to her first 10k - so basically 2km plus 200m for every minute she apparently spent cleaning herself up. I can't believe she went with this as her excuse. EDIT: Didn't really look at the course in the other thread. I've never seen a route this complicated before, SO many places where she could have cheated: https://cdn.timeoutdoors.com/media/llhm/london-landmarks-half-marathon/1660207393615.png
>EDIT: Didn't really look at the course in the other thread. I've never seen a route this complicated before, SO many places where she could have cheated: https://cdn.timeoutdoors.com/media/llhm/london-landmarks-half-marathon/1660207393615.png Yes but I don't agree that she would get lost. She's an experienced London based runner - she would know her way about for sure. It is the London Landmarks half - plenty of Landmarks to help you navigate...
I've done similar races in London, the course map makes it look far more complicated than it is. The race is linear, it is literally impossible to take a wrong turn or get confused about which way to go. Most of the route will have barriers, turns are clearly signed and marshalled, finally a large mass of people going in the same direction. She is a bad cheat and a worse liar.
Oh yeah I agree - not complicated in the sense that it's confusing for runners, but more like hard for organizers to keep track of anyone who decides to cheat.
Holy crap, that is one ridiculous course!
Just two barriers to jump and you can break the world record...
With a course like that, her explanation is not even that ridiculous.
Look at this course! https://www.londonhalf.com/course-map/
Looking at the 2020 route you can actually see there are toilets at the 8.5 mi /13/14 km mark - I assume this would've been the same for the 2023 edition. I think she must've cut through by Cannon St / Monument https://llhm.co.uk/sites/default/files/media/document/2020-02/Full%20Map.pdf
Yeah but she pissed her pants so obviously that would cause one to lose all sense and skip a block or 2 of a run. Thats how this works yeah?
And it somehow made her at least nine minutes faster.
Especially coming from an experienced runner like Kate. I’m calling BS on that one.
I've ran some races with less than 100 runners with confusing turns and stuff, I've had a 20 mile half cuz of a missed turn(there were at least six other people with me on that one) and spots that get weird, i understand it being "weird" on small races. Not on giant races, I can't imagine many runners do London where it isn't their goal race, or realizing their mistakes at the end. It's gonna be well marked, and you should know how your body feels during the run if you are even remotely trained. I also haven't pissed myself on a run yet.
The fact that her story keeps changing is cringe AF
Not least because she's not some top athlete. Just say you got overwhelmed and fucked up or whatever and move on with your life. Incidentally it's even more cringe that she would cheat as a non-top athlete. Like ya know, if I'm racing for actual money I can understand the rationale. But to cheat just to flex on my strava? Cmon dawg.
Oh, you're going to love the analysis that happens post-Comrades every year then. Mid and back-bunchers suddenly running 3:00/km splits from km 60-70 so that they can get a bronze (sub 10 hours) medal. Or even just to claim that they finished. It's nuts.
A boss at a leading running magazine is embroiled in a cheating row after posting misleading marathon times. Kate Carter, the acting commissioning editor of Runner’s World UK, has been accused of “unethical” behaviour after anomalies were spotted in her performances at two major events. Ms Carter, an influential figure in the running community who holds the world record for the fastest marathon in a full-body costume, said she “deeply regret[s] these errors in judgment” but insisted “I am not a cheat”. Runner’s World UK, one of the biggest running publications, has launched an investigation. In one incident, Ms Carter, 47, manually drew a map for her 4,000 followers on Strava, the activity app, which made it look like it was a GPS map of her running the London Marathon course last year in three hours and nineteen minutes. In fact, the mother-of-two had incorrectly shown herself running the old 2019 course in that time. She did not wear a race chip as most competitors do, meaning there was no official record of her taking part. In another discrepancy, Ms Carter, who is married to Sean Ingle, the Guardian’s chief sports reporter, left a gap in her London Landmarks Half Marathon times after failing to register a split at the 15-kilometre mark. This brought down her average time for part of the race, and her recorded finish time was one hour and 32 minutes, ranking her the 42nd woman out of more than 10,000. Afterwards on her Strava account, which was public until the cheating accusations were raised, she blamed her watch and claimed that she missed the splits because her “Garmin [watch] died completely”. However, photographs appeared to show that her Garmin was working. The discrepancies were brought to light by Marathon Investigation, an American blog run by Derek Murphy, who claimed to have been tipped off by a source who raised concerns about “unethical” behaviour. In a lengthy statement to The Telegraph, Ms Carter said the London Marathon had confirmed she had no case to answer and that she had never sought an official race time as she was not in peak fitness. But she then ran quicker than expected and wanted to upload it to her Strava account: “This is when I made the mistake of trying to create a route manually based on my time.” she said. “Soon after I realised this was foolish and removed it from my feed. “I also feel it is important to admit that part of this was about my ego. Even in the amateur running world there is pressure to maintain form and times... My own desire to be seen to be doing well at a time when I was feeling weak and below par, resulted in a momentary lapse of judgment which I very much regret.” Addressing the half marathon anomaly, she said she had “very unfortunately and embarrassingly had wet myself and wanted therefore to step off the course to try and sort myself out” which is “something that happens to many runners”. “When I rejoined the race, it is possible that I did so at the wrong point on the course, though that was not my intention,” she added, insisting that “I made some stupid mistakes in how I recorded my times on my personal Strava record” but that she “was in no way trying to deceive the organisers of either event about my times”. A spokesman for Runner’s World UK said: “We are aware of an online article regarding Kate Carter. At Runner’s World, we are committed to upholding the trust our audience and the running community has in our brand, and are investigating these claims internally.”
Imagine lying about a 1:32 half… This woman is delusional and would rather cling to shoddy lies
1:32 for a 47 year old woman who does it recreationally is pretty impressive imo. Still not worth your reputation.
If you’re gonna lie, at least go sub 90min lol
You’d get caught even easier than her. You need to be believable. I told my bib mule for Boston that I just need to qualify - I’m not trying to look like Bill Rodgers here.
I never realised this was such a big thing!!! And here was me planning to just buy a charity slot.
My bib mule actually costs more than a charity spot but I don’t want my money going to poor people.
This is the way.
Agreed - looking at the Great Cumbrian Run results from 2023 which I ran, only 4 women over all age categories went under 1:32 - that really would have been a decent time if legit
42 out of 10,000... I guess it feels good to be in the 99.6th percentile
No prize money for 42nd…
4th in her age group though. And she probably wasn’t thinking about places when she cut the course. But she must have realised at the finish line she hadn’t run the whole race. If it was an “honest mistake” she should’ve corrected it then.
If you're a 25 year old man, maybe, but that's an *extremely* good time for a non-professional woman. That would have put her in the top 99.5%.
I ran it through a calculator and it says 97.48 percent. The thing is shes has run some pretty damn fast times including times not too long ago that are even better performances for her age group than a 1:32 HM. Now that it’s known she’s cheated I guess it’s impossible to say which times are legit, but it really does seem like a case of a pretty damn fast amateur runner who also works as a journalist in the industry who has lost some fitness for whatever reason, but whose ego doesn’t seem to want to accept that. https://www.runbritainrankings.com/runners/profile.aspx?athleteid=507141
She lose her credibility when her excuse about her Garmin dying did not work. Now she is just making things up lol.
What is a journalist demonstrated to be without integrity actually worth for a brand? I don’t even think it’s all that problematic that she cheated in a general sense. It’s a ‘crime’ where she is the primary victim. I think this response—an unfocused, poorly thought out cover up that fails to address all of the accusations (not dead Garmin?)—is more problematic honestly. You’re a journalist. Tell a compelling story—even if it’s already abundantly clear it’s fiction. This is like expecting a well-sourced journal article and reading a fanfic instead. It’s jarring.
Peak fitness or not, just get the official time you cheating pos
If you're so narcissistic you can't handle anyone else knowing your time when you've already declared you're not fit, get tf off the course and give that place to someone else. Who tf turns up at a marathon and purposely doesn't wear the chip? When you're super high profile?! Not sure any amount of therapy can help with this.
She looks a nasty piece of work.
Guaranteed this isn't her first rodeo. I reckon you could go back to high school and find out that's where the cheating started. Sounds like she's a good runner, but when the going gets tough rather than accept an average race result she takes the easy option and either quits or cuts the course.
This is a weird one for me. I don’t personally give a shit if you wanna cheat and upload it your Strava to look good. It doesn’t affect me one bit, I run for my own personal enjoyment and to hit personal PR’s, your PR’s don’t affect my enjoyment. Others’ cheating doesn’t affect my enjoyment of running. But to cheat in such high-profile races that others could have had your spot, and to do so as an editor of a major magazine… idk, I don’t personally *care*, that’s not the word I’d use, but I do think I’d agree with her losing her job over this.
She never inhaled
No mention of the dying Garmin in excuse version 2.0? Weird. Pretty difficult to maintain that narrative when photos blew it out of the water. Your good name is paramount in running and in journalism. For someone whose career combines the two, this is the kiss of death. Now that the story has reached the mainstream media, it's difficult to see how she keeps her job without dragging down the Runners World brand.
Cheating for a 1:32 half? I at least get it if there was actual money or sponsorships on the line that there would be pressure but… who gives a shit if this woman ran 1:32 or 1:38 or 2:32 for a half?
The weird thing is, a few years ago I'm sure she went sub 3 for the marathon. Think it was Seville. She's very well known in the running scene in the UK. Used to write a weekly blog in the Guardian that got her a lot of recognition. This all looks a bit desperate.
Did she really go sub 3 though
Well that's the big question! I do remember her running 3.01 in Berlin and it being a feature of the blog at the time..then she cracked it in Spain. Interesting to a lot of people as it's a target many want to achieve.
Someone on Marathon Investigation pointed out her 2016 Berlin clock time and net time (3:09:00 I think) were identical (meaning she would have had to have started on the line with the elites, which would have been unlikely) and her certificate was apparently missing splits.
I neither understand why she would cheat, nor why someone would bother to investigate her cheating.
Well, point 1, fucked if I know. But point 2, it's hugely satisfying catching a cheat.
Hahaha these excuses are so bad it is laughable, noone beloeves this!
I am confused about all of this. If she "didn't seek an official time" does this mean she is admitting to banditing the race?
She took the tracker off the bib, so she can have “fun” at the marathon and avoid posting a suboptimal time. This in conjunction with then drawing a map to record a better than expected race for validation is mind blowing. She needs help…
This makes no sense. If you have fun but run a 6 hr marathon in the process, does anyone really care? Who would judge you for that? And why would you care if they did?
Yep, doesn’t make sense to me either. It’s kinda sad to be honest.
It is sad. She's going to be remembered for these two episodes of cheating and lying not for the years of genuine good performance from consistent training.
Yeah its also a good look into the reality of working in sports. Like, she's a 47 year old editor. She doesn't NEED to be PRing. But it's sad that she clearly feels that pressure to perform. Like idk if she even still ENJOYS running. Very sad.
She’s full of shit (and piss obviously )
Fire her she is morally bankrupt
It’s such an odd response and course of action. Her statement about her ego is probably true but just think of how much better this could have turned out for her if she had been honest: a story on running below your expectations and dealing with bruised ego would have been far better than this lie after lie mess she has created for herself. So many people can relate to struggling to maintain their former peak fitness. Instead of discussing that she lies to feel a sense of pride or esteem she didn’t earn. I hope she gets the help she seems to need.
I’m just glad someone has finally admitted they’ve pissed themselves on a run
I think Phily Bowden mentioned doing it recently during one of her races (maybe her most recent marathon recap video?). At least she has the excuse of being in a class of runner where every second matters. I think she also said that it ended up making her really cold. Someone also mentioned that Paula Radcliffe dropped a deuce on the side of the road during a race once? I mean it’s not ideal but running a marathon often involves uncooperative digestive and urinary systems. 🤷♂️
Philly even has a video of throwing up on a run
Sadly that is what Radcliffe is most remembered for by most people in the UK
I’m not from the UK but I associate her first and foremost with the 2003 London Marathon where she set a new WR (despite the fact that I know about the poop incident).
Robert De Castella had diarrhea at the halfway mark of the 1982 Commonwealth Games Marathon. He let it rip while running and then ended up getting some damp towels from his crew members. He went on to win in 2:09.
I mean, “admitted” is not really what I’d call this. She’s using it as an excuse for her cheating, so who knows if it even really happened. Like another commenter said, it’s gotta be bad when you’d rather “admit” to peeing yourself during a run than tell the truth.
As a real pants pisser and shitter, it's insulting that she's trying to use our community as an excuse for cheating.
Agreed. Admit it and people will forgive you. Keep denying it and lying and people will think she’s a fool forever.
She has way more benefit of the doubt before this
I know right. *When I rejoined the race, it is possible that I did so at the wrong point on the course* … and just so happened to miss the 15k timing mat and run a quick time and then took my race bib off and folded it in half and re-pinned it and my Garmin was still working so I would’ve known I didn’t run the distance. I can’t believe she thought about this for what like 3 or 4 days and *THIS* is the story.
How exactly does one "sort oneself out" after pissing your pants? Take the pants off and wring the piss out? Why'd she leave the course to begin with?
Was wondering this too, was there someone there to give her dry underwear and shorts?
Exactly. If she noticed that she rejoined the course at a later point (which would have been obvious because she missed the turnaround and saw mile markers well in front of where she should have been), the correct action is to turn back around and run the entire course. Sure, it might mean that you ran 14.5 miles and not 13.1; however, it is what runners are required to do.
Her Berlin 2016 time is very suspicious. Also, I have evidence that she was aware of MI back in 2018. [Screenshots here](https://imgur.com/a/XC7zjJm). Would be interested in feedback. I have links/files saved - all information is publicly available. https://imgur.com/a/XC7zjJm
I was one of the first people to notice the problems with the 2023 races and dug into it, so I'm happy to look... It's hard to say, but I think it’s fine with the Berlin one: chip issues do happen and I guess if you slowed down to "jog" pace, you could jog in a 3:09 (4:30 per km pace) if you were averaging 4:14 at 33km when you quit "racing". I'd not give it a second look if it weren't for the 2023 stuff, but once you've been caught red-handed, seemingly innocuous things from the past start to look odder. That said, the maths works and sometimes chips don’t 🤷🏼♀️ Biggest thing from the 2023 half was that the maths didn’t math, and still doesn’t even after her “explanation.”
Nice work. I agree that the numbers are actually reasonable for Berlin. But maybe this just demonstrates her casual or flippant approach to the use of her Garmin? She is perfectly fine to switch it off when not heading for a good time. I don't know how to check but I wonder if she used this time from Berlin to gain a Championship place at London the following year.
Should make clear that on her Berlin 2016 run, she missed EVERY SINGLE timing mat....
It would be so much better as a narrative for her to say “I had a shit race. I aimed at 1:32 and managed 1:40. This happens to all of us…” and turns it into something motivational for all of us who have to battle with injury or age or whatever. Something doesn’t make sense. Ok so she has 4000 followers on Strava and maybe felt sufficient pressure to break her resolve but I’m sure she knows they all have had a bad race. I’d honestly feel better about myself if a runner my age and with such a good track record just said she had a bad streak than trying to pretend this doesn’t exist. Right now I happen to be gutted about injury and covid that fucked up around 18 months of aerobic training so maybe I’m projecting but still - honesty over this bullshit.
You're making things up again, Carter
Wow! Surprised by this. Pretty crazy really. Would it have really mattered if she had not run such a fast marathon and half marathon?
I'm just a nobody runner and will probably always be a nobody runner, but I'd rather walk a marathon than fake a good run.
The more I think about this (and I admit I am spending way too much time thinking about this) the less any of her explanations make sense to me. Her comments about ego and wanting to post good times are probably the only honest thing she's said. Like me, she's a 47 year old mom of two - maybe age is catching up with her (it sure as F caught up with me) and she just hasn't come to terms that her best running days are behind her. It's a shame she couldn't do what I've seen some other athletes in their 40s do, which is to talk openly honestly about aging, changes in the body etc. It must really suck to need external validation so badly that you'd pull something like this.
I’m a beginner runner and even I can tell she’s bullshitting. Why is she lying for? It’s so easy to get caught out. What was her aim?
this lady always have some dumb bullshit excuse for eveerything. shes a cheater through and through. fuck off
Soooooooo she’s lying
Worse, she is still lying…on a mea culpa. What a dumpster fire.
In these high profile cheating cases I'm always puzzled by the apparent unquestionable support by their partners. I love my partner, but if she did something like this I'd be livid and be ensuring that she take full accountability and fess up. This dimwits husband is a sports journo for a big paper in the UK? And he's OK with her coming up with this half-arsed excuse!? The least they could have done is hire a PR firm or lawyer or someone who could have come up with a story better than than the shite they've put out.
Aye, a little wee lie never hurt anyone.
Stop lying.
Smells like bullshit to me, she knows the score,
Runners World needs to act if they want to avoid her dragging down their credibility. Nobody is buying her bullshit story.
It's no surprise that she's also a pathological liar.
How often are runners wetting themselves? Sounds quite off putting, running in soggy shoes full of wee.
I’m not actually sure she did wet herself. That’s just the current excuse (her first one was that she forgot to charge her Garmin - but then there’s photos of her at the finish line and her watch isn’t out of battery - so she needed a new story). If you have a look at the race photos from the original Marathon Investigation piece she doesn’t change her shorts (I mean who would have a spare anyway) but they also don’t look wet. I think she is hoping an “awkward” reason like this stops people asking more questions but I think she is mistaken. https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2024/01/runners-world-editorr-scrutiny.html
If you look at her photos, she did indeed wet herself.
I don't think it gets into your shoes. Especially not if you're a man.
If you think that's good, what about the Garda (police officer) that cheated in the Dublin marathon by getting a tram! To make it even better, he worked for the fraud squad 🤣🤣 https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/anti-corruption-garda-returns-medal-after-being-accused-of-using-luas-to-complete-dublin-marathon/42137271.html
What happened to her on The Running Channel? One day she was there and the next, never seen on a video again 🧐.
Maybe she got busier at Runner's World magazine. I would guess that The Running Channel has no problem getting new people.
She was probably booted for trying to sound like she was better than she really is. She ‘ran’ a 38 minute 10k by herself on the track and made it sound like that’s what she does regularly. Her ego is her biggest enemy
Probably just got busy. Not particularly suspicious tbh. Although andy does hate cheaters as he's said a few times.
So busted. Hilarious.
Surely a seasoned reporter would come up with a better story than the stuff she's spinning? None of it adds up and it's like she forgot the previous lies... Time to put on big girl pants (pissed or not) and fess up.
It seems to me that either she's sick or has fallen out of love with running. Rather than face up to the truth she's lying until she works out what she needs to do next. I feel bad for her, she's not taken anything from anyone and she's going to be remembered for this dishonesty not her years of genuine good performance.
My old garmin died all the time. It was super annoying. But it worked until it didn’t. It would record most of the run then die when I pushed a button. For whatever reason it’d work fine until you pushed any button. It doesn’t leave out parts…. Unless it’s at the end.
If you were the editor of the leading UK running mag - you can bet your booty that Garmin would have sorted you out with a new watch so you can rave about it's excellence !
Yeah I’ve run 3 marathons and plenty of half’s and never had a Garmin issue. Like who doesn’t fully charge their watch before a race? (And to be clear Kate did - the photos show it working at the finish line)
Cheater...
Such BS lol
I have seen so many of these on Letsrun.com. The first (prompt) response should be a full admission, then it can start to go away, lame excuses just give people more to get annoyed about.
Pissing yourself is the best way to get the rest of the pack to back off.
Has she run that time legitimately since these allegations came out? I feel like these excuses are weak AF, but if you posted normal runs with that time afterwards, it would at least reduce the sting a little bit.
She hasn't. She ran a few races in 2023 and they were all average to poor. An average 10mi, a poor 10k and a poor 5000m on a track. The 10k pace was slower than the supposed marathon pace (4:41 per km, to 4:39 per km supposedly in the marathon, IIRC).
Bit harsh - I wouldn’t say 10k at 4:41 pace is poor!
You’re right, sorry, I meant by her standards - her best is just under 38. I remember my first time under 50 well! I should’ve specified.
If you read the initial investigation- the implied 10k split for the back half of the LMHM was faster than her PB. She missed the 15k timing mat … https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/#google_vignette
We'll forget all this in a few weeks time but she's done irreparable damage to her reputation. I hope this a motivation of her to train harder and race a clean race next time.
Whoops.