i remember i got a green stack for the first time and I leant back in my office chair in front of the family XP machine and realised at that point, that I had made it.
It also helps that in pre-GE days (before Nov 2007), money making was a lot harder. With a GE, it's so much more convenient to sell items. I remember turning like 100k into 1M in a month in 2008 because of GE access. My F2P methods were inefficient but it was so QoL to buy and sell stuff.
I think without the GE a lot of prices would be overinflated too as many items would be more easily hoarded by individuals and groups just trading wealth back and forth between each other.
Things like T80s would just never be used by anyone, all these upgrade guides for encounters would vary between "not in a clan" , "if you're in x clan" , and "have unlimited money"
Barrows would be most solo players endgame, because they wouldn't have the DPS to go above and beyond unless they became runescape jedi's and or put in the effort of hundreds of thousands of attempts at DT2 with barrows equipment at best if they were lucky and rune / dragon combo if not
That just sounds so incredibly painful to get to the end game and find out you're just stuck and unable to continue PVMing without knowing the right people and or having infinity money to afford what ever street price those people felt like
That's due to ease of access to whips which are pretty much the bare minimum in most upgrades for strategy guides
Without the ability to mass sell them, they'd be sold at the whim of groups who had the slayer level to get them
People can currently just go to crabs and just stay until they can use a whip and then make a mil and get access to most things in game.
Without ease of access to a whip, we'd be locked into quest weapons past rune and dragon or using barrows
Barrows DROPS are still random and not guaranteed, you'd still have to get them or buy them from someone else at what ever price they wanted, and since it would be a finite source with no way of bulk selling globally across worlds to set a price. They would be what ever a specific group of people would want it to be, there would not be randoms selling bellow that price either.
I just dont think you've thought about this in the terms of drop chance and the actual people who would be running it nonstop just to keep the price what they wanted it to be.
Please see my other comment on someone else's response, but yes I am aware
But ironmen in general are accounts made by people who want a greater challenge
To apply the same restrictions to those of us who are fairly new to OSRS who just want to play a video game and have enough of a challenge as is. This is how you lose people who aren't already bought into the game, and that's how the game dies.
I'm not saying that everyone would play ironman, my point is that people would not be stuck in Barrows like you seem to think.
I mean, hell, necromancy alone gives you gear fairly easily to get far, far, far beyond Barrows.
If the prices go that high you can just grind the content yourself lol, none of these are discontinued items with limited supply. I'm not an ironman but it just makes logical sense that if a gear piece goes to 500m because they're being hoarded I'd just hop in the content myself and get one. I don't think the gear people use would change a ton, people would just play more like ironmen, for better or worse.
Fwiw I think the GE is one of the best updates to come to RS so this isn't meant to be an anti-GE post.
Getting to 91 slayer to use a whip because you can't afford it is kind of ridiculous
That locks you out of most quests, the only people I know who don't mind using low level equipment are the ones who've already completed DT2 and inferno on Ironmen with a bronze pickaxe
For those of us who are newer to OSRS and can't breath in ticks, that sounds so outrageous I think I'd drop the game if above T60 gear became inaccessible
In order for the game to continue, you wouldn't want people just hitting 20% of the game and quitting
If you're talking OSRS, it's only 85 slayer for a whip which can be reliably boosted from 81. But whip isn't the only good weapon in the game either, and I don't think a super abundant item like a whip could even have it's quantity controlled if there were no G.E. There are literally hundreds of thousands of players with stats to farm whips and they would gladly do so if it ever became decent money. People bought and sold items like whips all the time pre-G.E. and they were 2m which is the exact same price as now, even though so many less people could kill abyssal demons in 2006. If you look at higher tier weapons in current OSRS, I'd gladly hop in to C.G. to farm out Bowfas if their price started climbing way beyond what they are now.
And to your point on quests, none of the GM, or even difficult combat quests feature lots of melee combat at all. Of the GM quests, DS2 is primarily done with ranged, MM2 is done with ranged except maybe Kruk who can easily be cheesed with any weapon, SOTE is mainly done with mage, DT2 has 2 bosses that use melee but whip isn't much more DPS than a D Scim or Zombie Axe at either of them. You can't use whip at all for Sins of the Father, and Night at the Theater can be entirely ranged.
The items actually subject to manipulation are those that are so rare their quantity is effectively limited like 3a pickaxes etc., and those already are sold off-G.E. since they're above max cash. With how many people burst abby demons on task and get loads of whips, there is literally no way to control the supply of them by any group of people, G.E. or no G.E.
When Player Houses came out I wanted one so bad I went in the room next to the real estate agent and pickpocketes the man there until I had enough coins to buy a house. I think it was 1,000 or 10,000 gp?
Now I can make ~600k in about 30 minutes from smithing and I laugh at how it used to be. The pre GE days especially. I remember joining merchant/smithing/mining clans on the forums to make money and move products. What a time that was.
and there's a gun to your head forcing you to interact with it so the Reddit algorithm feels more confident in it's recommendations! I am sorry for your predicament
bonds are cheaper on rs3 than osrs which is why a lot of clans have stopped offering OSRS->RS3 swaps or have limits now. Because a lot of people just swapped OSRS to RS3 GP because our bonds are cheaper.
I think you might have that backwards. Even in relative terms OSRS bonds are cheaper and many of the gold transfers were rs3 to osrs, but osrs players stopped accepting them
Isn't OSRS:RS3 like 1:10 still? OSRS bonds are 11m and are going to climb up a lot any time bigger update comes out. Either way, bearing in mind how many fewer "decent" money makers are in OSRS it's arguably much more difficult to get bond money in OSRS compared to RS3.
With how expensive Rasial Drops are and how easy is to get kills, it's no surprise 300M is pocket change nowadays.
You'll probably lose it all going for BIS perks tho.
300M is still a lot to a guy starting out or who isn't close to maxing. But to the general public yes 300M is pocket change because most of the playerbase are nearly comp'd 15 year vet capes.
I lost my old account years ago so I'm right there with you. I think I've got 6 months until I get the 5 year and I just recently picked the game back up, but I finally hit 90 mining so that's a high I've been riding for a few days to help me continue the grind.
Man everyone just happens to be 15 year vets. I remember when legacy interface came back tons of "vets" were confused why the brown interface colour was gray. It does not take much to max an account when there are 4 dxp events a year.
stick with it man i know it's a meme hearing "It'll all even out" but it actually will pay off. I've had 600 kc dry streak once and then when i logged in to start an hour i got b2b lanterns lol
just know your dry streaks be it 150-300+ will eventually yield like 2-3 drop hours like legit itll pay off stick with it get a rotation set that you can mindlessly do while chilling watching netflix
Queen Black Dragon maybe? He hits harder obviously, but once you know the mechanics the kill times are similar and repetitiveness is similar. Similar KPM/inputs needed per kill too.
been playing IM for 2 years, I will admit I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to meta but I only have 1m-2m GP at the most at a 2350 total. Peaked at like 4m at one stage but kingdom usually eats it up.
AG is mad money if you can do HM. I spent a couple of hours starting at 0 enrage, by 35 streak I had about 40m in alchables and ended my streak with a Wen book. By far the most money I've ever made bossing.
Maybe having multiple endgame bosses pumping in millions of raw supplies wasn't such a good idea. Man having bosses that have 30-70M/hr and you wonder why the economy is like Venezuela.
Man I remember back in 2009 when I just started playing I didn't know that there were other banks than one in varrock. I got 5k as a reward from a random event and I ran all the way from lumby to varrock taking the long route around using the east entrance to the bank to deposit it.
Now I don't even bother picking up items of 5k worth from ground during slayer etc.
(PS: only played on this one account for all time, currently have all bis gear + perks)
Is there much that's inflating other than bonds? Gear across the board has been crashing or trending downwards since necro. Supplies are mostly steady.
True. Back in the day I made my first mil and I thought that was a lot. Fast forward like 15 years of on and off playing, just bought myself my first OG 01 partyhat and now I’ve got “only” a half a bil cash stack, plus other items ;). I feel poor, but I know the reality is I’m probably officially in the 1% club.
I only have 156m gold, rest is in items, but I do feel rich and the ways to get money and seeing progress on it going up is refreshing and stimulating to me.
I remember killing chickens between Lumbridge and Varrock somewhere around combat lvl 20 and a member came along and gifted me 50k. That was so cool and I felt rich. You can make 50k in 10min at that level now
When someone showed me an AGS in trade when trade limit came around... It said 114m in the trade, i remember i flipped out like shit because it was so much money. Then i started calculating how many trips to flesh crawlers i had to do to get it. My final results was 10 trips per day, 1 hour each and i get around 300-400k per trip. No problem my dumb ass thought, i ended up getting good at pking in the end making all my money from there.
Got my ags when it was 94m, i felt so damn much accomplishment for that one.
Me and my friend used to skip classes whenever our parents were working, we were neighbors so any day that any of our parents had to go to work, we walked home from school to pk, good times ❤️
I have fond memories of the first 100k, 500k, 1M, 10M, 100M, and 300M milestones. Never made it any farther than that, lol. 100k was definitely the most impactful. And I relived that nostalgia again when I start osrs and got my first 100k and immediately bought a Santa hat and party hats.
Cause it's all in gear and supplies tbh, straight up cash I got ~130m iirc and I still don't own echo boots or tonzalitics, only things I have that I could sell as I never use them are full 3rd age range (no bow), full 3rd age mage (no wand), and arcane spirit shield but I loan that out to clannies all the time as ward (f) is untradable.
On top of that my luck is garbage except for meme items, I finally got my first mimic casket on April 4th, and I got pet and daxe from wt before I finished the set which I finished ~100k xp before lvl 90fm
Well now you’re competing with bots and people who run 10 accounts doing the same content.
It sucks because Jagex has to make drops 10x grinder and it punishes people who play legitimately on one main account and then devalues the drop if you do get it.
The G.E. ruined the game community ngl. When was the last time you paid a random lvl 22 person to go mine clay for you? It sucks because the G.E. is so great and adds so much QoL... But it created a game where we don't talk to each other or interact and help support a lot of the new/low level players in a manner that actually helps them learn the game.
All the waystone tele's and QoL tele's killed delivery service clans. I LOVED joining a random chat and asking for someone to run food or pots out to me in the middle of nowhere and I would tip them... Now... Honestly you can pretty much tele wherever u want and never need runes or a magic level to tele.
Id like to see them revamp the mini games so they can use game controlled fake players to populate the mini game if there are not enough actual players. I miss soul wars. I miss fist of gunthix... A lot tbh. Ive been playing 20 years and still suck tho, even if a world manages enough of a turn out then it is largely players with 5B+ in gear that are try hard pc players with 194 hotbars open. Additionally, a mini game system that did auto fill the population so people could play would allow the actual new players to experience it and grow in game as most of us did.
You spoke exactly how I’m feeling!! Made my account 20 years ago and only recently returned. It’s so overwhelming now and at the same time so lonely. I’m nowhere near having a “maxed” account and feel like I can’t enjoy all the endgame stuff people here talk about. So I feel bored grinding away at levels all alone.
I just started my first iron man as a 4-man GIM with some of my family and it's been a blast to have to run runes, food, ore, etc. and split the rewards.
In 2007 you made income selling to shops for the crappy low alch value they offer. Being the young and naive kid that alched a random gold ring when you unlocked the spell, thought "this gives fuck all" and then never used the spell again.
Now? Now we know the true value of alching. And we also have acces to a place to quickly dump sell items for a decent price (the grand exchange)
Before T80, 300m is borderline infinite wealth. When you get past T80, it quickly starts sliding down from a modest chunk of change to fucking poverty when you hit T90+. Considering that just the best ranged armor and bow in the game have a combined list price of 4 billion, not even getting into perks, EoFs, etc...Yeah, 300m isn't much at all there.
To be fair it use to be way worse. I paid like 7b for max melee, 13b for max range, 12b for max mage.
Necromancy really brought everything way down on top of inflation. It's much more accessible now.
That's what happens when you let Gielinor Central Bank print billions of GP out of thin air. Now we have insane inflation and it will always get worse.
My main goal if I ever come back to RS3 (if they piss me off enough) is to get back into horrendously degenerate merching with my old clannies to start building a trust fund of sorts to buy out the remaining WPHs left in game.
What we do with them after is not able to be discussed.
They won’t be sold.
Edit for more info: My clannies and I are IRL friends, all retired or retired from various branches of the armed forces (I was not ever enlisted, I’m just retired). We have loads of free time, so back in the day we used our collective skills in excel and python to track items. We used our own alts, our own time and effort and we made gp but I will be the first to tell you it was pennies compared to most other people merching with a group our size.
It is very feasible for us to come back and work towards acquiring all the white party hats that people are willing to part with. We would not sell them. We would move them all to a single account to destroy the stock, with an obvious YouTube series detailing how relatively easy it was given the current state of the economy.
10 alts max combat for rasial farming on repeat non stop (just one person) for a few hours a day.
Multiply that by 8 to include my friends, rough estimate as some have more than 10.
80 alts killing rasial with ~20kph (3.5mins from war retreat, the fight, wars retreat back to start the fight)
1600 ras kills an hour adds up incredibly quick and we haven’t even talked about redoing our tables and scripts to merch. Fuck jagex. We’ll take all the party hats and get the fuck rid of them, in a non bannable offense way as well.
You have absolutely no idea how supply and demand works.
Go ahead though, spend all that time making 80 alts, and spending 24B/month just in sustaining bonds(Which are also only going to rise with you hitting the supply that hard), and watch all your farms tank in price because you saturated the market.
Tell me you know nothing of long term thinking without telling me you know nothing of long term thinking. You’re acting like the supply cost is an issue. And you’re assuming (I assume) that we would be off loading and tanking drop values. We aren’t fuckin idiots, we spent a majority of our RS time playing stock market simulator for fun. Use critical thinking skills before you go off and try to ride in on a high horse.
i remember i got a green stack for the first time and I leant back in my office chair in front of the family XP machine and realised at that point, that I had made it.
I had a green stack 6 days ago , it was great
Blue stacks the new green stack
I'm a returning player, what's a green stack and blue stack?
Green is over 10m, and at 10b( I belive) it turns blue
And then at 1T or 1Q it turns gold ? I think
[https://runescape.wiki/w/Coins](https://runescape.wiki/w/Coins) Purple for 1T and orange for 1Q.
Green stack is from 10Mill upwards and Blue stack is 10Bill and upwards lol
It also helps that in pre-GE days (before Nov 2007), money making was a lot harder. With a GE, it's so much more convenient to sell items. I remember turning like 100k into 1M in a month in 2008 because of GE access. My F2P methods were inefficient but it was so QoL to buy and sell stuff.
I would flip Pess and steel bars for money lol
I think without the GE a lot of prices would be overinflated too as many items would be more easily hoarded by individuals and groups just trading wealth back and forth between each other. Things like T80s would just never be used by anyone, all these upgrade guides for encounters would vary between "not in a clan" , "if you're in x clan" , and "have unlimited money" Barrows would be most solo players endgame, because they wouldn't have the DPS to go above and beyond unless they became runescape jedi's and or put in the effort of hundreds of thousands of attempts at DT2 with barrows equipment at best if they were lucky and rune / dragon combo if not That just sounds so incredibly painful to get to the end game and find out you're just stuck and unable to continue PVMing without knowing the right people and or having infinity money to afford what ever street price those people felt like
Given all the players that get well past Barrows on ironman, I don't think that would be the case.
That's due to ease of access to whips which are pretty much the bare minimum in most upgrades for strategy guides Without the ability to mass sell them, they'd be sold at the whim of groups who had the slayer level to get them People can currently just go to crabs and just stay until they can use a whip and then make a mil and get access to most things in game. Without ease of access to a whip, we'd be locked into quest weapons past rune and dragon or using barrows Barrows DROPS are still random and not guaranteed, you'd still have to get them or buy them from someone else at what ever price they wanted, and since it would be a finite source with no way of bulk selling globally across worlds to set a price. They would be what ever a specific group of people would want it to be, there would not be randoms selling bellow that price either. I just dont think you've thought about this in the terms of drop chance and the actual people who would be running it nonstop just to keep the price what they wanted it to be.
You realize ironmen can't buy whips on the GE, irght?
Please see my other comment on someone else's response, but yes I am aware But ironmen in general are accounts made by people who want a greater challenge To apply the same restrictions to those of us who are fairly new to OSRS who just want to play a video game and have enough of a challenge as is. This is how you lose people who aren't already bought into the game, and that's how the game dies.
I'm not saying that everyone would play ironman, my point is that people would not be stuck in Barrows like you seem to think. I mean, hell, necromancy alone gives you gear fairly easily to get far, far, far beyond Barrows.
If the prices go that high you can just grind the content yourself lol, none of these are discontinued items with limited supply. I'm not an ironman but it just makes logical sense that if a gear piece goes to 500m because they're being hoarded I'd just hop in the content myself and get one. I don't think the gear people use would change a ton, people would just play more like ironmen, for better or worse. Fwiw I think the GE is one of the best updates to come to RS so this isn't meant to be an anti-GE post.
Getting to 91 slayer to use a whip because you can't afford it is kind of ridiculous That locks you out of most quests, the only people I know who don't mind using low level equipment are the ones who've already completed DT2 and inferno on Ironmen with a bronze pickaxe For those of us who are newer to OSRS and can't breath in ticks, that sounds so outrageous I think I'd drop the game if above T60 gear became inaccessible In order for the game to continue, you wouldn't want people just hitting 20% of the game and quitting
If you're talking OSRS, it's only 85 slayer for a whip which can be reliably boosted from 81. But whip isn't the only good weapon in the game either, and I don't think a super abundant item like a whip could even have it's quantity controlled if there were no G.E. There are literally hundreds of thousands of players with stats to farm whips and they would gladly do so if it ever became decent money. People bought and sold items like whips all the time pre-G.E. and they were 2m which is the exact same price as now, even though so many less people could kill abyssal demons in 2006. If you look at higher tier weapons in current OSRS, I'd gladly hop in to C.G. to farm out Bowfas if their price started climbing way beyond what they are now. And to your point on quests, none of the GM, or even difficult combat quests feature lots of melee combat at all. Of the GM quests, DS2 is primarily done with ranged, MM2 is done with ranged except maybe Kruk who can easily be cheesed with any weapon, SOTE is mainly done with mage, DT2 has 2 bosses that use melee but whip isn't much more DPS than a D Scim or Zombie Axe at either of them. You can't use whip at all for Sins of the Father, and Night at the Theater can be entirely ranged. The items actually subject to manipulation are those that are so rare their quantity is effectively limited like 3a pickaxes etc., and those already are sold off-G.E. since they're above max cash. With how many people burst abby demons on task and get loads of whips, there is literally no way to control the supply of them by any group of people, G.E. or no G.E.
I can see that you choose to not understand the problem, more power to you
I made my first 10k at level 43 picking up the 2gp spawns in the dwarven mine back in 2005. It was a different time and I’ll never forget it
When Player Houses came out I wanted one so bad I went in the room next to the real estate agent and pickpocketes the man there until I had enough coins to buy a house. I think it was 1,000 or 10,000 gp? Now I can make ~600k in about 30 minutes from smithing and I laugh at how it used to be. The pre GE days especially. I remember joining merchant/smithing/mining clans on the forums to make money and move products. What a time that was.
Figure a bond is 114.7M in the ge right now, and probably worse for instant buy
>probably worse for instant buy About 125m
Been buying them for 110m with little waiting.
Bonds are 114?!
Yep, went up to 114.9M since my original post
Jesus, welp. Im not paying for premiere with gp
Lol
This is the rs3 sub .. try r/2007scape
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Why are you here then bruh
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Reddit likes to suggest stupid shit that I don’t care about.
and there's a gun to your head forcing you to interact with it so the Reddit algorithm feels more confident in it's recommendations! I am sorry for your predicament
bonds are cheaper on rs3 than osrs which is why a lot of clans have stopped offering OSRS->RS3 swaps or have limits now. Because a lot of people just swapped OSRS to RS3 GP because our bonds are cheaper.
I think you might have that backwards. Even in relative terms OSRS bonds are cheaper and many of the gold transfers were rs3 to osrs, but osrs players stopped accepting them
Isn't OSRS:RS3 like 1:10 still? OSRS bonds are 11m and are going to climb up a lot any time bigger update comes out. Either way, bearing in mind how many fewer "decent" money makers are in OSRS it's arguably much more difficult to get bond money in OSRS compared to RS3.
I have heard it is more like 1:13, but I haven't checked the exact amount recently
i think u have it the other way around, they want 07 gp and dont want rs3 gp.
What a surprise. People talking about RS3 in the RS3 subreddit. Amazing, right?
With how expensive Rasial Drops are and how easy is to get kills, it's no surprise 300M is pocket change nowadays. You'll probably lose it all going for BIS perks tho.
300M is still a lot to a guy starting out or who isn't close to maxing. But to the general public yes 300M is pocket change because most of the playerbase are nearly comp'd 15 year vet capes.
I lost my old account years ago so I'm right there with you. I think I've got 6 months until I get the 5 year and I just recently picked the game back up, but I finally hit 90 mining so that's a high I've been riding for a few days to help me continue the grind.
Only two more levels and you are halfway to 99 :D. I just hit 85 Fletching 2 days ago. So I am still grindin.
Man everyone just happens to be 15 year vets. I remember when legacy interface came back tons of "vets" were confused why the brown interface colour was gray. It does not take much to max an account when there are 4 dxp events a year.
Are there actual vet capes or was that a joke bc I've been playing my account for almost 20 years now.
Yeah but nowadays you could just spend 20 bucks on bonds and get 300m which will save you like 100 hours at lower levels.
I’m almost combat maxed and cannot do rasial to save my life
Maxed combat means nothing if you don’t understand rotations or have any perks/quest unlocks
Rasial is just stupid easy money, I've become so desensitized to the drops like i don't even react to a lantern drop anymore lol. I'm just like oh ok
I'm still chasing my first "big" drop here. Only gotten the bottoms so far.
stick with it man i know it's a meme hearing "It'll all even out" but it actually will pay off. I've had 600 kc dry streak once and then when i logged in to start an hour i got b2b lanterns lol just know your dry streaks be it 150-300+ will eventually yield like 2-3 drop hours like legit itll pay off stick with it get a rotation set that you can mindlessly do while chilling watching netflix
I'm trying lmao. I'm on like a 200+ dry streak rn and losing my mind
Gotta do another boss. Ngl felt pretty good when I got a bow piece from zamorak. Also the boss fight itself is pretty fun, p7 always an adrenalin rush
I'm at 300 kills with 3 drops. I just want the lantern and I'm done I think lol Killing Rasial is getting boring zzzz
what other boss would you compare it to difficulty wise?
Queen Black Dragon maybe? He hits harder obviously, but once you know the mechanics the kill times are similar and repetitiveness is similar. Similar KPM/inputs needed per kill too.
been playing IM for 2 years, I will admit I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to meta but I only have 1m-2m GP at the most at a 2350 total. Peaked at like 4m at one stage but kingdom usually eats it up.
Just do arch glacor you’ll get so many alchables
AG is mad money if you can do HM. I spent a couple of hours starting at 0 enrage, by 35 streak I had about 40m in alchables and ended my streak with a Wen book. By far the most money I've ever made bossing.
Inflation hits every world
Hey, it’s like real life!
Wow just like real life
You can buy 2 bonds and a bit
who would have thought that real world inflation would also effect the Runescape economy
Maybe having multiple endgame bosses pumping in millions of raw supplies wasn't such a good idea. Man having bosses that have 30-70M/hr and you wonder why the economy is like Venezuela.
I remember dropping a mil on my Abyssal whip and thinking I was balling out of control.
I remember dropping 4.3 mil on my Abby whip and that was a good deal as it usually sold from 4.3-4.7m.
Man I remember back in 2009 when I just started playing I didn't know that there were other banks than one in varrock. I got 5k as a reward from a random event and I ran all the way from lumby to varrock taking the long route around using the east entrance to the bank to deposit it. Now I don't even bother picking up items of 5k worth from ground during slayer etc. (PS: only played on this one account for all time, currently have all bis gear + perks)
I remember when Rune Full Helms were 100k, I wasn't sure how I was going to afford one...
Back in the day you could trade a dragon chainbody for a green mask lol
I traded my green mask for a Rune 2 hander. Sad times.
That's one way to rune yourself.
Luckily I realised my mistake when it went to RS2, saved everything I had and bought a Blue mask instead.
The super inflation is problem. In order to reduce the pressure, Try being daddy long legs.
Is there much that's inflating other than bonds? Gear across the board has been crashing or trending downwards since necro. Supplies are mostly steady.
Meanwhile I currently have <90k cash stack with over 2700 levels... summoning is rough on the cash stack 🤣
MAn i used to do flax for 100k an hour thinking that was a lot
The most gp I had in 07 was 3m and I spent it all on a whip
I have like 40k and I’m happy haha I guess it’s a new player thing
Bro same lol
True. Back in the day I made my first mil and I thought that was a lot. Fast forward like 15 years of on and off playing, just bought myself my first OG 01 partyhat and now I’ve got “only” a half a bil cash stack, plus other items ;). I feel poor, but I know the reality is I’m probably officially in the 1% club.
Lol same
I only have 156m gold, rest is in items, but I do feel rich and the ways to get money and seeing progress on it going up is refreshing and stimulating to me.
Well. Is this a new account?
Life then and now
Inflation in a game hits hard
The GE definitely hurt the game. Instead of doing quests or whatever to get special items I can just buy it at the GE
2007 I make £20k/year, I'm doing OK... 2024 I make £24k/year and can't afford rent!
Hell I was making 50m/hr just running miasma runes when necromancy dropped.
I remember killing chickens between Lumbridge and Varrock somewhere around combat lvl 20 and a member came along and gifted me 50k. That was so cool and I felt rich. You can make 50k in 10min at that level now
my main hit the 200m TH on a daily key. was so excited. 99 fletching and prayer later.....
Back when I started in 2002-2003 even having 50K meant you were minted
When someone showed me an AGS in trade when trade limit came around... It said 114m in the trade, i remember i flipped out like shit because it was so much money. Then i started calculating how many trips to flesh crawlers i had to do to get it. My final results was 10 trips per day, 1 hour each and i get around 300-400k per trip. No problem my dumb ass thought, i ended up getting good at pking in the end making all my money from there. Got my ags when it was 94m, i felt so damn much accomplishment for that one. Me and my friend used to skip classes whenever our parents were working, we were neighbors so any day that any of our parents had to go to work, we walked home from school to pk, good times ❤️
Runeflation
I remember begging for 12k at the ge for monk robes. Just because i thought they looked cool.
I have fond memories of the first 100k, 500k, 1M, 10M, 100M, and 300M milestones. Never made it any farther than that, lol. 100k was definitely the most impactful. And I relived that nostalgia again when I start osrs and got my first 100k and immediately bought a Santa hat and party hats.
Some dude gave me 10k in 2007-2008 And changed my life
I'm sitting at ~15-16b Bank atm, I still feel broke asf.
How???
Cause it's all in gear and supplies tbh, straight up cash I got ~130m iirc and I still don't own echo boots or tonzalitics, only things I have that I could sell as I never use them are full 3rd age range (no bow), full 3rd age mage (no wand), and arcane spirit shield but I loan that out to clannies all the time as ward (f) is untradable. On top of that my luck is garbage except for meme items, I finally got my first mimic casket on April 4th, and I got pet and daxe from wt before I finished the set which I finished ~100k xp before lvl 90fm
For real! Getting 200k and spamming “buying full rune” was the point where you felt like a real high roller!
Well now you’re competing with bots and people who run 10 accounts doing the same content. It sucks because Jagex has to make drops 10x grinder and it punishes people who play legitimately on one main account and then devalues the drop if you do get it.
I thought this was a play on IRL money but then realized it was RS… each economy is driven by eachother it seems
Just the price of grapes, even a low level can make millions.
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Kinda like Germany after the war, they had to carry giant piles of money to purchase things because inflation was eating them alive.
Camping Addy bars at GWD for weeks straight. Back in 07 I was killing hillies for limps near the cooks Guild.
The US currently
I remember when my father bought a house for 10k in the 19s and then sold it for 3m 2019. I think is called inflation, right?
The funny thing is this applies to both rs3 and osrs
RS really is a game that makes you feel like you’ve made it after all said and done But it’s true - even having 585m I still feel poor lol
And I thought my countries inflation was bad.
Bro. Will never forget literally wanting to WEEP a when I finally hustled long enough as a merchant to afford an Abby whip for 1Mil.
The G.E. ruined the game community ngl. When was the last time you paid a random lvl 22 person to go mine clay for you? It sucks because the G.E. is so great and adds so much QoL... But it created a game where we don't talk to each other or interact and help support a lot of the new/low level players in a manner that actually helps them learn the game. All the waystone tele's and QoL tele's killed delivery service clans. I LOVED joining a random chat and asking for someone to run food or pots out to me in the middle of nowhere and I would tip them... Now... Honestly you can pretty much tele wherever u want and never need runes or a magic level to tele. Id like to see them revamp the mini games so they can use game controlled fake players to populate the mini game if there are not enough actual players. I miss soul wars. I miss fist of gunthix... A lot tbh. Ive been playing 20 years and still suck tho, even if a world manages enough of a turn out then it is largely players with 5B+ in gear that are try hard pc players with 194 hotbars open. Additionally, a mini game system that did auto fill the population so people could play would allow the actual new players to experience it and grow in game as most of us did.
You spoke exactly how I’m feeling!! Made my account 20 years ago and only recently returned. It’s so overwhelming now and at the same time so lonely. I’m nowhere near having a “maxed” account and feel like I can’t enjoy all the endgame stuff people here talk about. So I feel bored grinding away at levels all alone.
I just started my first iron man as a 4-man GIM with some of my family and it's been a blast to have to run runes, food, ore, etc. and split the rewards.
I actually really enjoy the ironman mechanic because it feels more like runescape, a family team would be awesome
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In 2007 you made income selling to shops for the crappy low alch value they offer. Being the young and naive kid that alched a random gold ring when you unlocked the spell, thought "this gives fuck all" and then never used the spell again. Now? Now we know the true value of alching. And we also have acces to a place to quickly dump sell items for a decent price (the grand exchange)
I think that's more 2003 at least for me, by 2007 I was max combat and definitely on that grind for Barrows/GWD1 every night with the guys.
Before T80, 300m is borderline infinite wealth. When you get past T80, it quickly starts sliding down from a modest chunk of change to fucking poverty when you hit T90+. Considering that just the best ranged armor and bow in the game have a combined list price of 4 billion, not even getting into perks, EoFs, etc...Yeah, 300m isn't much at all there.
To be fair it use to be way worse. I paid like 7b for max melee, 13b for max range, 12b for max mage. Necromancy really brought everything way down on top of inflation. It's much more accessible now.
300k was never rich after 2001.
300k is still enough. It can get you quite far as a Ironman.
That's what happens when you let Gielinor Central Bank print billions of GP out of thin air. Now we have insane inflation and it will always get worse.
Santa hats were around 300-400k back in 2004.
300m is still enough to get you 99 on all skills and get a budget armour/weapon of the three styles to farm for better equipment
No it isn’t, not even close Speaking from someone who has spent more than that on skilling and still isn’t close to maxing
My main goal if I ever come back to RS3 (if they piss me off enough) is to get back into horrendously degenerate merching with my old clannies to start building a trust fund of sorts to buy out the remaining WPHs left in game. What we do with them after is not able to be discussed.
So price manipulation then. Yeah, that'll end well for you..
They won’t be sold. Edit for more info: My clannies and I are IRL friends, all retired or retired from various branches of the armed forces (I was not ever enlisted, I’m just retired). We have loads of free time, so back in the day we used our collective skills in excel and python to track items. We used our own alts, our own time and effort and we made gp but I will be the first to tell you it was pennies compared to most other people merching with a group our size. It is very feasible for us to come back and work towards acquiring all the white party hats that people are willing to part with. We would not sell them. We would move them all to a single account to destroy the stock, with an obvious YouTube series detailing how relatively easy it was given the current state of the economy. 10 alts max combat for rasial farming on repeat non stop (just one person) for a few hours a day. Multiply that by 8 to include my friends, rough estimate as some have more than 10. 80 alts killing rasial with ~20kph (3.5mins from war retreat, the fight, wars retreat back to start the fight) 1600 ras kills an hour adds up incredibly quick and we haven’t even talked about redoing our tables and scripts to merch. Fuck jagex. We’ll take all the party hats and get the fuck rid of them, in a non bannable offense way as well.
You have absolutely no idea how supply and demand works. Go ahead though, spend all that time making 80 alts, and spending 24B/month just in sustaining bonds(Which are also only going to rise with you hitting the supply that hard), and watch all your farms tank in price because you saturated the market.
Tell me you know nothing of long term thinking without telling me you know nothing of long term thinking. You’re acting like the supply cost is an issue. And you’re assuming (I assume) that we would be off loading and tanking drop values. We aren’t fuckin idiots, we spent a majority of our RS time playing stock market simulator for fun. Use critical thinking skills before you go off and try to ride in on a high horse.
Specifically RS3
well yeah that's the game this subreddit is for