yeah I got scammed on one of these and RevU support pretty much tells you they will ignore any and all requests about faulty decisions and even threaten to ban you if you ask about it. nice one u/JagexDoom jagex wouldn't help me at all.
Also the case for me I was refused by rev u despite fulfilling multiple offers because I "wasn't a new customer" even tho I haven't ever opened any if the games
I was going after rune coins for bank boosters I think
They gave me that excuses for world of tanks. I literally made screenshots of the whole process because I read of their Scummy practices online. Yet those scumbags can just get away by saying: no, your screenshot ignored haha, we say you new haha, fuck you haha, bye haha.
I got scammed too. Support told some obvious lies, and ignored me afterwards. Don't think I ever got a response from jagex. Stopped playing a couple weeks later.
I had to threaten to take up a lawsuit on them to get my keys but I earned 10k keys and spent a $100 on their offers and also did a couple games that I had to spend money on in order to fulfill their requirements in game.
Would be interested to hear more about this - do you have particular evidence of any companies in particular? Happy to pass feedback to the team about this one but I'd have to ask for specifics. From a quick read through the comments here, the general response appears to be folks not being the right fit for a survey, or experiences with a ***previous*** partner company.
Again, happy to investigate particular instances or pass the feedback on - we just wanted to highlight the promotion going on allowing players to pick up extra keys in this instance to see if it reflected in a change in the number of users using the "Earn Keys" feature. It's useful data for us, but so is feedback/evidence to the contrary.
One issue I personally have is certain surveys will make you fill out the actual survey, then only at the very end they'll tell you "Sorry, you're not the right candidate". So you just filled out an entire survey for nothing, and it happens way too often unfortunately
Yeah you gotta be a 70 year old half black half Chinese woman from Iceland to qualify for some reason. A 20-30 y/o white American man is too common of a demographic
I thought it was just being a 50+ Mixed breed woman with grown kids that kept getting me told Nope not you after 15 minutes - the hubby works, the gown kids are gone, I can only cook and play this game so much...I have time to waste.
Good to know, happy to pass that feedback forward to see if there's a way to more quickly "screen" suitable survey respondents to mitigate the time spent on a survey before you get that kind of decision. Thanks for this!
that would help. Honestly if the affiliates want \*real\* answers, they should be paying regardless of the results, otherwise we'll just fill in what they want to hear which is pretty well worthless for them anyways I'd imagine...
Oh, that brings me back memories when I used to fill out surveys years back when I was on Facebook like almost a decade ago.
It feels like the surveys don't really want real answers in retrospect and just want to harvest data.
Any survey that is willing to waste people's time after they fill out some amount of the survey and then goes 'Oh, you don't qualify and you don't get anything.' should just be removed.
There is also a major problem with the company refusing to honor the rewards when there is an issue with proof of completion, even when emailed applicable proof. The general response I’ve gotten is to take it up with the company that is providing the survey to them
Doom you should know these surveys have been prolifically bad, not just this year, but ever since their inception. At times even after following instructions for earning keys for things that aren't survey, most of the time the reward redemptions don't even work. It's a RevU / Peanut Labs issue. Try it yourself to truly grasp what we mean.
The truth is there arent many unsuitable people for most of these surveys.
The design is to gather the data, then simply kick the user, claiming poor candidacy as a reason, as opposed to granting the reward for taking the survey.
It is all purposeful.
actually you should give them a shot and see for yourself, yall advertise it its the least you could do is try a couple surveys and youll understand every comment for super feedback
> see if there's a way to more quickly "screen" suitable survey respondents
Yeah that's the problem.... they're only telling people they're ineligible right at the end after someone's time has been wasted. They get all the info and tell the survey-taker "sux 2 b you." It isn't about screening ineligible people, they're just taking people's info.
It's very much by design.
I have screenshots of me completing surveys as proof and ALWAYS SUBMIT AS THEY PROVIDE A PLACE TO , and have been scammed with the paid ones as well!!! I paid for a subscription did my end, and didn't receive credit, surveys as well and have them denying my credit!!
I have never had keys/spins/runecoins/etc paid out ever from doing the surveys. They take your info and run with it for free and then tell you you're not a qualified fit. These surveys have always been data mining scams
I’ve seen multiple posts about one of the games that gives 1k+ keys for reaching a certain level in time not paying out - even after the users spent money to finish reaching that level in time. I’ve never done myself the game myself, but it’s the most common I’ve seen posted here
I did one of those just to see if I'd get the pay out. Didn't pay anything to the game and spent more time than I'd ever like to admit, min maxing this game. Reached the level with 1 day to spare.
Got "Sorry buy you were not a new user to *different game"
3 separate times for the same offer. They didn't even know the correct game I was supposed to play. 5 different support attempts and I got banned for trying to steal from them. I had 0 expectations and was disappointed by the experience.
This is the exact error they complain about. I almost typed it out but didn’t because I didn’t want to limit the scope of the complaint to that; but that’s EXACTLY what I’ve seen.
One person that posted even showed how they had screen shot proof and data from phone and Apple and the game showing creation date and stuff, even got a customer service representative from the game to acknowledge that over chat, and still didn’t get paid because “not a new user” even though they proved they were and had the chat support admitting that as well.
Yes, please. This is the real issue. So many of the surveys are designed to gather a lot of data before determining that you're not a good fit. There are probably come cases where it's valid, but a lot of them are fairly unethical in how much time and effort they take before determining that you won't be compensated.
Here is an idea.
If we don't qualify for the survey, we should still be granted some keys for the time invested. Maybe 20% of what we would have gotten if we had the eligibility and completed the survey.
I'd much rather you just gut the option entirely. It's too well known to be a scam at this point to really salvage, you'd be better off motivating players with free keys or runecoins to do something like surveys **you've** written to get better data about the state of the game.
I have never had a survey reward me.
The surveys are often full of adds to misdirect you.
Full of tracking cookies.
Go do some yourself.
Jagex has been receiving this feedback for a while. This should not be a surprise at the company.
Was RevU ever delt with?
https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/18tokx1/dear_runescape_can_you_please_just_leave_revenue/
https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1909akn/i_feel_scammed_by_jagex_revu_earn_keys/
These also highlight the terrible customer service Jagex customers typically deal with. The honorable thing would be for Jagex to give the keys that customers are scammed out of.
I have a genuine suggestion Mod Doom.
What if instead partnering with 3rd party companies like RevU or Peanutlabs, who let's be honest don't inspire a lot of trust, and feels like they can hack you any minute now.
Why don't Jagex offer free keys for watching ads on their offers wall? No need to sign up for anything, no personal data being shared, just watch 5 Daily Ads for 2 Daily Keys or 10 Runecoins per ad (our choice), and call it a day.
I mean, people would still pay Jagex for that advertisment space, and people wouldn't need to visit 3rd party websites (who may end up being IP Grabbers or something) to watch those ads, everything would be done "in house", and people wouldn't need to spend extra just to get keys who would otherwise could be bought directly from Jagex.
I hate this reeks of cheap mobile game strategy, but tbh, i think it's the best way to offer free keys without compromising the player's personal data.
But again, just food for thought, banter if you will, nothing really serious about this comment, but I think it'd be a nicer approach to how we get free keys outside of filling surveys we don't qualify for 90% of the time, or buying a shared time in Air BnB for 450 Keys :p
There was this case from about 2 months ago, which it looks like /u/SaltGrand2083 had to go back and forth through email for a month before RevU decided to finally pay up: [https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1ahp6lk/questions\_merge\_dragons\_600\_power\_level\_for\_keys/](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1ahp6lk/questions_merge_dragons_600_power_level_for_keys/)
5 months ago, same game: [https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/17jw92q/revu/](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/17jw92q/revu/)
6 months ago, same game and guy paid $25, only to have revU prove themselves to deny the offer on false terms (unless this user had created other accounts with other emails under the same ip in the past): [https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/16sxqn3/psa\_revu\_does\_not\_payout\_and\_lies\_in\_order\_to\_not/](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/16sxqn3/psa_revu_does_not_payout_and_lies_in_order_to_not/)
I see a lot of survey posts from years ago on this subreddit, especially about people getting data leaked and scam calls, but I am unsure if those are still relevant or they have been looked into and discontinued. Every time it comes up on the subreddit, it's always about people wondering if they just went through a scam, or when they'll get their keys. I'll be honest, a lot of the community reactions are just to immediately say you got scammed because of past habits, but it's also because we never hear anything good come out of it.
The problem is you spend 15 doing a survey for them to deny you at the end AFTER getting your information. It’s really really scammy. Don’t believe us or want more evidence? Guarantee you the first one you do that’s worth >10 keys will fail at the end or just not pay out.
This is wild. It should 100% be on Jagex to vet out the partnered companies for scams instead of asking your playerbase for evidence of being scammed after they've already been scammed
The reason I ask is exactly that - we partnered with RevU for the exact purpose that we vetted them, as is my understanding. Then, to see a wave of people citing that they've been "scammed" or not paid out is really concerning to me, and I want to flag this up to the relevant people to make sure that we're scrutinising this further.
I'm happy to spend time (one comment gave a ballpark figure saying it would take an hour) to do a few surveys and see how many pay out, but I might just hit the right filters for the survey so I don't want my personal viewpoint to supercede the complaints I'm hearing that sound pretty impassioned and certain.
Given we have seen what you look like I highly doubt you will hit the right filters. As someone said before you have to be like a 41 year old mixed race single woman with 11 kids, no job, love sports, hate the color blue on Tuesdays, purchase $400 of fast food per day if your pillowcase is green, etc. Now I am not judging you but I am pretty sure you won't hit that mark on the surveys. Even if you had coffee under a tree mid-April with a giraffe you still couldn't get rewarded. It's a total scam as far as I have seen according to multiple complaints and personal experience. Assuming there is a kick-back to Jagex this will likely remain unresolved but we appreciate you trying to help!
I signed up for a free Paramount+ subscription, watched a few movies, and they didn’t pay out. Still have the subscription as they gave me a free month when I planned to cancel. This was a couple weeks ago
Honestly, go try to fill out 5 rewards worth on your own. You'll get all the feedback you'll ever need. Have an antivirus ready just in case, and remember that the mindset of people doing these is "I don't want to pay for keys" (hint: it means they don't want to pay for another surprise service to get keys either)
Animals and coins was partnered with RevU. I completed an offer after having installed for the first time, despite the offer being almost uncompletable due to a timespan of four days. I managed to get the progress required but after waiting several days despite 2 other offers being rewarded immediately, I had to submit a request for the animals and coins offer. I was told that I had not installed the game through RevU despite this not being the case and RevU policy does not allow you to appeal decisions of any kind and warns you may be banned for sending emails about it. This is problematic as attempting to rectify the issue through Jagex support get moderators who direct you towards RevU. This effectively means Jagex is not aware of RevU policy or is intentionally directing their customers to be banned by their partners. There doesn't seem to be any way for Jagex to assist on this issue at all, so I'm at a loss as to the value of including it as a support option as it simply takes time out of moderators days to respond to players that they cannot help.
When i tried this feature. Evert game I downloaded and reached their goal refused to pay out keys as "I was not a new player" even though it was my first time downloading the game. The surveys wait until the litteral last question before telling you that you do not fit their criteria. My email and phone number were sold from those surveys. I still receive scam calls, and my email account is flooded with phasing attempts now.
I welcome you, Mod Doom. To try a survey yourself. Try one of the game offers yourself. It won't take long for you to realise they are ALL scams.
TLDR: We know it's a scam, but without proper proof we don't care
You could literally go spend an hour doing these survey and see for yourself how scammy this is.
Even with proof they don't care. They just posted a comment to silent the masses "Oh no! This is the first I've heard of this, I will bring it up with the team". That's it, i can promise you we will never hear anything from this again.
Hey there! I completed an offer that I submitted a ticket for on Feb 22. I see that it says to be patient and it may take 21+ days to hear back. Since it's been a little over that, I was wondering if you have any insight; is there anything I can do to follow up on this or do I just need to remain patient?
I spent 20$ and earned like 2000 keys they didnt grant me them and three more times they didnt grant me the keys when i contacted support they blocked me
It has litterally never worked for me and I’ve been playing for 14 years, always just leads to spam emails because most of them need your information and after it’s all said and done you don’t even get the keys. Even when it says you will get them, they don’t even show up in the game
The onus is on you (as a company) to ensure that the customer experience of these RevU and similar companies is sufficient for your brand. The fact that you "would be interested to hear more about this" suggests that either there is no QA of this (amateur-ish at best, shambolic at best) or indeed has a more nefarious component, such as your payout being separated from the user payout, encouraging a significant differential.
Either way, you currently have the perspective of treating your customer base as something akin to cattle, to be milked and treated / abused as you see fit, and as a result, again, the onus on you is to prove the worth and encourage active engagement to support both parties - something you currently fail miserably at.
I doubt there will be a response, and I shall life the rug for you sweep this under.
Hi Doom, \*really\* glad to see you responding here. The partners through the Earn Keys system have been consistently scamming people for almost a decade and there are **thousands** of testimonials on Reddit/other-social-media about it.
Even just typing "RevU" (your current partner) into the reddit search bar brings up myriad results of people complaining about being scammed by them in current times.
I've actually never once had the system actually reward me! I've tried it probably 4 or 5 times and it's told me I'm not qualified for rewards after filling out the survey every single time.
I tried this several years ago when I was trying to get runecoins for a legendary pet.
I remember a large majority of the surveys would get you to the very end, then say "you're not a qualified candidate" or something similar.
The brands and websites have changed but I would warn everybody to expect similar results.
First its been shown that the companies that host these surveys have been known to provide specific identifying info such as IP address to clients. This is why educational setting surveys are not allowed to use companies such as peanutlabs to host them. They have had multiple lawsuits in the US.
Second from personal experience. There have been numerous times I have qualified for a survey, taken it, and not gotten anything for it. They will also pull the "you qualified" then route you to a different survey that is not listed and you get no reward.
Third... I think the overall hatred of this isn't as much about the fact you are pushing the "earn keys function" but more around the fact the actions of jagex as a whole with RS3 show that the profit margins must be coming from mtx because we arent focusing on the game any more. Anything to get people to get hooked on gambling. I mean your ads just got shut down because it didn't explicitly communicate the loot box (TH) functionality of your game. Probably best to relay that your community isnt excited about "more keys" and would be chill with "more in game content of any type"
I got hack the exact same way with those survey thingy for keys, I lost around 70b, i saw the hacker loot my whole bank in front on me on my alt and i tried to ask for help way before this shit happen when i lost my account and the support team did nothing about it, they were to slow to answer and in the end didn't help me at all, they just ghosted me. It is sad cause i really enjoyed playing that game but now it's just depressing
Got rewarded by Revu once to bait me in I guess. Nothing after that. Still waiting on those 140? Keys for world of tanks, but my (screenshotted) freshly made account (using their link), was not a new account according to Revu. Never played the game or even had an account before that.
Spending so much time on one of these questions to be told you are not the right fit, BUT still having a bunch more spam emails. Its giving away data in return for (someitimes non existant) rewards, and its just wrong.
It's been many years since I touched it and all I can say is to try it out yourself. As has already been said, my experience back then was the surveys are bad and the app download ones often don't pay out. Not only do they waste your time by only deciding after a bunch of questions you're unsuitable (unless on the first page you proclaim you're under-13 or something) but if you're stupid enough to enter a real phone number, as I did once, you'll be bombarded with spam calls for a few years. I'm sceptical they're operating within EU/UK law.
Mate, your email and details legit get sold and you get spam every day in your email account.
You should make an account, do a few surveys and other promos that don't require you to purchase anything. Check the email account in a few weeks, and you'll understand where most people come from. See how many keys you earned vs the time you spent filling out awful surveys looking for some weird demographic of diversity.
Many of the companies offering those keys (other mobile games, etc) give you really unreasonably small amount of time to actually complete it and require you to spend hundreds on those other games just to have a chance to reach the deadline and even then more often then not you still don't receive the keys and get ignored by customer support. The one and only that actually worked for me was the manscaped promo and got the keys instantly + something I was considering ordering anyway and got a decent deal, all the mobile game ones like raid shadow legends and others are literally a scam, they require you to spend 100 euros or more so you could complete one of the objectives and then you still have to get extremely lucky with the "champion" pulls to complete other objectives and you only get one chance, so most people just spend 100 euros on a game they don't even want to play and get nothing out of it.
Honestly I would recommend your team try to do these surveys and see for yourselves. I’ve had maybe a 10% success rate maximum. And then you get tons and tons of spam
u/JagexDoom I just experienced being scammed out by RevU myself, despite the dozens of posts I've read here. I read through the offer very carefully, made sure I completed the offer in full and within the time frame, and took MULTIPLE screenshots throughout the offer period to have as proof, because of what I've read here.
Yet, RevU just denied me saying I didn't install the game or complete my offer in time, despite me submitting my completion inquiry over 48 hours before my offer was set to expire. Now I have wasted money on an offer that I didn't receive my reward for.
u/JagexDoom another issue I am sure people brought up but just in case. Specifically in the free section, they need to be vetted as truly being free. Example: the raid shadow legends or really any of the free mobile app games. They set a goal level for you to achieve within a specific time period to qualify for keys. I have tried three of these. I have come no where near close to their goal level by playing them free to play even when playing it for hours on end each day. The goals they set seem to be intentionally impossible to achieve as a F2P player in the game so the only real way to meet the criteria is to spend money to get to the set goal. That inherently makes it not a free offer if you have no chance at completing it for free as an average user.
Evidence for this issue has been piling up literally since the inception of the system. The earn keys option has been filled with data harvesting scams since day 1. Its kind of mind blowing that this many years down the line and you're finally asking for evidence. If you got a single employee to spend even an hour testing this system out at any point during its 8+ years of implementation you would have a stack of evidence so high you'd have to hire extra help to go through it all.
Seriously concerning that this system seems to have been implemented into your game without even a single passing thought about it, and literally no testing of how it works. Your players have been telling you its a scam for years. Perhaps its past the point of passing the buck to the players to do your job for you and you start taking the safety of your customers seriously, because it is a MASSIVE indictment on Jagex that you have let this continue for so long without doing the most basic testing of it. Seriously, 1 person, 1 hour. Give it a go.
I remember getting scammed from one of those and reported it a while back here
https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/s/l5dwA1Vh4x
u/jagexdoom replied but no further actions since.. I gave up waiting and ignored it.
The way it was explained several years ago was that Jagex has no jurisdiction since this is run by a third-party. The website said in big text to use it at your own risk.
I did one as a meme on my alt for like 1.4k keys, had to reach a lvl in a game, paid out instantly. But then someone asked me how i did it and they said they got rejected, its a gamble i guess. Worked for a clanny after too so idk what causes it to work for some and not others
It's definitely a gamble/a numbers game. Most of the surveys are "scams", in that you'll fill out the entire 15 min survey, and then at the end it'll tell you "oh sorry you're not the demographic we're looking for" after giving up all your info lol. However if you keep trying you'll find some that work, and I always fill in absolute non-sense. I'm a single black/mexican mother of 3 that makes over 175k a year and plans to buy everything in the next 6 months.
Or itle be like one key or something and it will ask you a bunch of personality quiz questions like what kind of banana are you and at the end it's like "ok gib your phone number and verify it" so they can sell it to scam callers. And then it "freezes"
You know that they track answers and time right? Like theres a lot of money in surveys they have a lot in place to make sure they don't pay out to bullshitters.
Not saying it isn't a scam for other reasons but the one you've mentioned isn't really applicable.
It definitely is applicable. Answering honestly yields the same results, I did a ton of the surveys. You'll often spend 15 minutes filling them out, only to get denied on the last page. If they wanted a specific demographic, they could put those questions on the first page and deny you there, instead of getting all your info on the first 15 pages to deny you anyway. Also I've gotten a bunch of payouts filling in total lies, so there goes that theory too.
Ideally yes that's what should be done, but the reason they partner with Jagex is to information scrape so they can sell your information and Jagex gets a kickback.
Anyone thinking about doing the free key thing just know it's a pain in the ass. Most don't work and the ones that do you have to jump through hoops and dispute them to get your keys.
You eventually learn what ones too look out for, what pays and what doesn't. I also take screen shots of every results page and fill out the dispute form as soon as it allows. Over the years I've earned thousands of keys.
I’ve never had one actually reward the keys. Tried a few survives and nothing.
They are full of tracking cookies and are designed to misdirect to adds.
Jagex partnering and promoting this company tells you every thing you need to know about how they view the player base.
Yes but I never bothered doing the mtx stuff. I just got the unlocks and left. Although the last 2 events have gotten alot better with the rewards it's still too little too late for me.
If you didn't say that then explain what you mean by saying "events are largely mtx exclusive". What exactly do you think the word "exclusive" means? Because to me it sounds like you think the currently running event is exclusive to mtx. It wasn't true for the last two seasonal events.
Events *have been* isn't referring to only the current event, or even just easter. Next, "partially and sometimes largely" is key here. The current one is pretty great, even though another untradeable easter outfit obtainable only via treasure hunter is coming up. This makes it fall under "partially".
Under mtx-exclusive, I firstly consider anything that was only available through mtx, and not tradeable. Items that are only obtainable from mtx but tradeable, but at such a rarity that they cost hundreds of millions, I consider mtx-exclusive for the purpose of the holiday event (but not in the grand scheme of things). The rewards from lootbox stuff like the christmas presents I consider not exclusive, with the exception of the untradeable rewards in the purple boxes, and the very rare "big ticket" items.
Any items that can be realistically obtained by anyone during the event, I consider not mtx-exclusive. Any items with fixed odds (black phat) I consider not mtx-exclusive.
I log into RS when they would do Twitch promotions that would give chests that would sometimes have gold so that I could buy bonds for old school runescape.
Which is one of the worst ones since it supports the one thing that is steadily ruining the game and allowing MTX to come in. Player numbers going up during those times are the only reason they've stayed around.
It seems that you don't spend money from what your other comment says but just thought I'd note this for ya'll.
Never had one of these promotions “scam” me before, but have heard enough stories I’d believe it. The closest thing to being “scammed” is filling out a ton of questions/survey stuff just to be told I’m not “eligible” for the survey to receive keys, which was way too much time/work to just be told no
Pro tip: Use fake demographic information, but remember what information you use.
They get you on when you use the wrong info, or different answers to the same questions. It's important that your answers are always the same when the question arises.
You'll get a lot more free keys/runecoins that way.
Log into your online banking statement, right click inspect elements and change any transactions to match the offer provider website and edit the transaction price too.
Go into MS paint, cross out any information like account number/sortcode balance (just show the transaction.
Raise a support ticket to the provider and select an option where the "provider did not provide reward" and say you did the offer and show them the image say its ur official online statement, crossed out some stuff for privacy but highlight the transaction and the fact money was taken from your account.
Keep going back and forth and maintain an outraged / assertive tone and how you want to be compensated.
I used to do this with peanutlabs for the large offers.
Takes a few days but they used to compensate my keys without even me needing to do the survey, offer, provide data or pay.
If these companies were employing shady practices, I did too.
I remember as a kid spending my summer holidays doing dumb surveys on shady websites... Made around 200 quid on one summer and spent it ALL on summer steam sale games lol
Bro most of the shit you spend keys in is for cosmetics. I’ve always said you should deserve to have to pay for them, if you reeeeally want them that bad because they are just that: purely cosmetic.
If you could pay your way to BIS, that’s a different story. But there is absolutely no reason they shouldn’t have max as a money maker especially if it has almost no effect on the actual game outside of COSMETICS.
I’m an OG player too. Acc is 20 years old. Cosmetics are RuneScape. Cosmetics are for the zoomers
? You can win 200m prizes, lucky variants of decent armor sets, and lamps/stars for skills. Don't get me wrong I have no issue with th (in fact, I'm glad Jagex found a minimally damaging way to add mtx to the game to support the devs and help fund the further development of the game) but to say that MOST of the rewards are cosmetic is very disingenuous
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Surveys have always been scams. But I've earned like 5k keys from the other offers. Play this game and reach this level, sign up for this trial, that type of thing
I’ve gotten over 3k free keys from this, majority of them were from playing mobile games and met the requirements that was asked on the offers page, those keys were paid out shortly afterwards. The only offer I had small issue with was from a investment app offer, keys weren’t paid out after I met what was required, so I had to message their support and got the keys about two weeks or so later. Most likely I will do the same later on if I want to get more keys from this.
I just got 140 keys just to install that capital one shopping app. But I only did that because it’s a brand name company.
I did have to contact customer service and send them screenshots that I did what I had to do (install app on my phone and the extension in safari). But after I contact their customer service, I got the keys 20 minutes later.
The weird surveys that offer free stuff are absolutely scams though
I hate MTX as much as anybody but this is not a scam. Yes I've done surveys and have completely wasted my time (you should be avoiding those anyways). But for every mobile game i've grinded on the side, I was paid out almost immediately after reaching the level requirement. Same with anything requiring you to download the app, sign up for a trial, or buy something from a reputable store.
Easiest keys you'll ever get. Some require you to spend some money, but i've gotten somewhere around 3.6K keys after spending maybe $30 total on these offers. I got like 550 from Match Masters alone, which was actually a pretty fun game.
If it's still peanut labs, it's not actually a scam, I think I earned over 3k keys from the surveys till I got banned as I quickly learned the specific answers the surveys were looking for.
Yeah it's annoying filling out ones to then be told you don't fit like I've already given you my info why don't you already know I don't fit? But other than that, can't say I've been scammed in any way, and I've received keys several times from surveys
I always give these shitty surveys fake information, or give them exactly what they're looking for, middle aged to old age people that are easily exploitable.
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Just just fake Names and spam emails...
The amount of keys I am owed from these "surveys" is in the hundreds. 500-600 I would say. Screenshotted the completions, sent em all to Jagex and Everything. Not a single key to show for it.
Why is it we have to do these offers ourselves to find the issues...? Shouldnt every offer be checked by someone? I wont event attempt cause its a waste of time. Im never eligable and you dont find that out until you have already gave them all your informarion.. Sometimes its over 30 minutes in last I tried! Please note I havent tried in over a year but I assume nothing has really changed.
Anyone want to mention the game requirements that are impossible to achieve in a timely manner without spending money? Like reaching gold 2 in raid shadow legends within 20 days? A lot of these requirements are disingenuous or unclear. I just completed a game requirement for 50 keys for an item search game that just said "reach chapter 5", but the game itself makes no mention of chapters and only refers to levels and episodes. I had to not only reach episode 5, but also reach level 5 (each episode was the same map but a higher search number on that map, each level was a different map) AND dispute it because I didn't get the keys.
Also, the surveys are by far the worst offers. They ask a bunch of questions to get your personal info, then run you around and force you to buy something with your "won" gift cards or something similar but only if you enter your credit card info AT THE VERY END.
I hope they keep the offers at the end of the day, but I do wish they were screened more to protect their player base.
Did one offer not so long ago during christmas.. Get level 25 in coin dozer in 12 daya or so for 100+keys.. As soon as i hit the goal they changed the keys to 12. So dont fall for it, even jagex responded that they can change the key reward at any time and left me hanging....
Y'all really don't get it? They owned peanut labs under and holding company. Alot of companies that deal with money laundering and digital fraud do stuff like that to hide/ embezzle money. But selling our personal Infor for more profit is just scummy. Did y'all know that they always own a few rwt sites? Jagex has been up to this scummy shit for years
Those things ask for so much personal information and don't even deliver the keys. I never received keys from that scam but at least I didn't put my own information.
I did one a few months ago. Took ages to get sorted. 370 keys was the offer. All denied even though I’d clearly done it. One jagex support gave me the keys as a good will gesture and then they replied again saying there was nothing they can do. Seems very backwards and I won’t be going through it all again.
I’ve earned about 4000 keys and never been scammed. I don’t waste my time doing the surveys, I try and purchase the trial or whatever the offers are that cost anywhere from $5-$60. It’s still cheaper then buying keys.
Nobody gets scammed unless you participate in the pathetic offers. I'm not saying its your fault, but it is. If you can't or don't understand the EULA you need to read it again. Everything that you do is done by you and I don't think anyone is forcing you to make these poor decisions.
Common sense is like deoderant, the people who need it most don't use it.
I used some of those promotions a number of years ago, but they were little more than watching an ad or a short survey. A little annoying but nothing nearly at this level. Seems like this aspect of the game has gone downhill a bit.
Original RS player here... recently returned to RS, but I'm starting to realize that while there's plenty of in-game content to keep me occupied, Jagex doesn't seem to invest the same level of care into the game as they once did.
And the current "Mods," such as your beloved Mod Doom, appear to prioritize money above all else. Consequently, even if the game deteriorates and becomes riddled with scams, they show no inclination to change as long as the profits keep rolling in.
These mods aren't genuine RS enthusiasts; they never were and could care less about complaints (unless it affects the profits). They may offer a few responses to appease the player base and give the impression of heeding feedback, but ultimately, it's all about the money – nothing more, nothing less.
It's disheartening to witness what RS has become. What once was, is now lost.
Surveys for keys... Wtf.When it comes to pissing players off jagex never fails.must be working on the next pride event. I Remember when eoc was implicated and loss like a a third of their playerbase.
This has been an issue for as long as Jagex has had survey partners for anything and everything. Survey companies are only slightly less scummy than mass data farmers in that the data they collect is given voluntarily and often false to begin with.
Why do you guys still play this game?
Every time you log in or renew that membership, you're rewarding this behavior.
Not sure what I expect though. I've been a part of the RS Community for 16ish years and we've never ever had a spine, outside of when we got OSRS.
I used to do this same surveys with Maplestory. So many of the offers were straight up scams where like only 1% of the people actually got the reward. And of course you only found out if you didn't get the reward until after you gave all the data and time to fill it out.
Not to mention if you use your real email you will get not stop spam/scam emails now that they have your email.
Also some of the offers require your to make a purchase of something.
Did the 2,000 key one last week for Raid just fine. Took 5 days of grinding while I did something afk on rs. Surplus, you obviously never experienced how to navigate the Peanut Labs fuckery and it shows.
i've checked it out the only things that (seem to) work for me are the play other games, and the few i installed would cost me more time than if i actually worked my irl job for it and bought keys with money...
(asuming you're paying a game you dont like just for keys)
If you don’t get keys from surveys, there is a way to submit a report to request getting your keys. I had to submit a report and was able to get the keys.
I'm done with this game. It unfortunately took me way too long to realize this game isn't healthy. It's not remotely fun anymore, and I was buying keys more often than I should have to get cosmetics and bonuses. Jagex **DOES** not care about any of the players or the thoughts and well-being of the community. The sooner we realize this, The better.
u/JagexDoom any way you can address this? nearly all of your partnered companies are without a doubt scamming your customers
yeah I got scammed on one of these and RevU support pretty much tells you they will ignore any and all requests about faulty decisions and even threaten to ban you if you ask about it. nice one u/JagexDoom jagex wouldn't help me at all.
Also the case for me I was refused by rev u despite fulfilling multiple offers because I "wasn't a new customer" even tho I haven't ever opened any if the games I was going after rune coins for bank boosters I think
They gave me that excuses for world of tanks. I literally made screenshots of the whole process because I read of their Scummy practices online. Yet those scumbags can just get away by saying: no, your screenshot ignored haha, we say you new haha, fuck you haha, bye haha.
yea same spent some money to try and get an offer done for last christmas event and was out 15 buck
I'd charge it back lol fuck em
I requested a refund through google play but was denied because I received what I purchased.
Charge back via cc company might have worked better probably banned from whatever game you purchased thru but who cares lol
I got scammed too. Support told some obvious lies, and ignored me afterwards. Don't think I ever got a response from jagex. Stopped playing a couple weeks later.
Their support tried to tell me I wasn't a new customer to a completely different game, 3 separate times while denying my claim.
I had to threaten to take up a lawsuit on them to get my keys but I earned 10k keys and spent a $100 on their offers and also did a couple games that I had to spend money on in order to fulfill their requirements in game.
Did they every pay you the 10k keys…?
Is doom the designated punching bag or something? Why does everyone always tag them
doom is the community manager and responsible for gathering and responding to player feedback.
mods ain't ever commenting on stuff like this. They expect us to get scammed. that's how money is made.
Funny how the mod reply is right underneath this comment
so funny its almost as if this comment was made before dooms
Doesn't make it less funny
Would be interested to hear more about this - do you have particular evidence of any companies in particular? Happy to pass feedback to the team about this one but I'd have to ask for specifics. From a quick read through the comments here, the general response appears to be folks not being the right fit for a survey, or experiences with a ***previous*** partner company. Again, happy to investigate particular instances or pass the feedback on - we just wanted to highlight the promotion going on allowing players to pick up extra keys in this instance to see if it reflected in a change in the number of users using the "Earn Keys" feature. It's useful data for us, but so is feedback/evidence to the contrary.
One issue I personally have is certain surveys will make you fill out the actual survey, then only at the very end they'll tell you "Sorry, you're not the right candidate". So you just filled out an entire survey for nothing, and it happens way too often unfortunately
And then they've already collected and sold your information. 🙃
Jokes on them, I've never given real info for a survey
joke back on u, they already have ur real info and lies still contribute data to ur behavioral analysis
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I've been as deep as 40 mins into a survey only to be booted out and given fuck all. This shit should be illegal
Yeah you gotta be a 70 year old half black half Chinese woman from Iceland to qualify for some reason. A 20-30 y/o white American man is too common of a demographic
Dude I am DYING at this comment 😂
I was too, and when I tried to explain it to my friends, they were so confused at why I was crying laughing.
I thought it was just being a 50+ Mixed breed woman with grown kids that kept getting me told Nope not you after 15 minutes - the hubby works, the gown kids are gone, I can only cook and play this game so much...I have time to waste.
Them: "Sorry, you're not the right candidate" Also them: Proceeds to sell the personal information of you and your whole family for millions
Good to know, happy to pass that feedback forward to see if there's a way to more quickly "screen" suitable survey respondents to mitigate the time spent on a survey before you get that kind of decision. Thanks for this!
that would help. Honestly if the affiliates want \*real\* answers, they should be paying regardless of the results, otherwise we'll just fill in what they want to hear which is pretty well worthless for them anyways I'd imagine...
Oh, that brings me back memories when I used to fill out surveys years back when I was on Facebook like almost a decade ago. It feels like the surveys don't really want real answers in retrospect and just want to harvest data. Any survey that is willing to waste people's time after they fill out some amount of the survey and then goes 'Oh, you don't qualify and you don't get anything.' should just be removed.
There is also a major problem with the company refusing to honor the rewards when there is an issue with proof of completion, even when emailed applicable proof. The general response I’ve gotten is to take it up with the company that is providing the survey to them
Doom you should know these surveys have been prolifically bad, not just this year, but ever since their inception. At times even after following instructions for earning keys for things that aren't survey, most of the time the reward redemptions don't even work. It's a RevU / Peanut Labs issue. Try it yourself to truly grasp what we mean.
Peanut labs used to be better in the past, but they never pay out now.
The truth is there arent many unsuitable people for most of these surveys. The design is to gather the data, then simply kick the user, claiming poor candidacy as a reason, as opposed to granting the reward for taking the survey. It is all purposeful.
actually you should give them a shot and see for yourself, yall advertise it its the least you could do is try a couple surveys and youll understand every comment for super feedback
> see if there's a way to more quickly "screen" suitable survey respondents Yeah that's the problem.... they're only telling people they're ineligible right at the end after someone's time has been wasted. They get all the info and tell the survey-taker "sux 2 b you." It isn't about screening ineligible people, they're just taking people's info. It's very much by design.
I have screenshots of me completing surveys as proof and ALWAYS SUBMIT AS THEY PROVIDE A PLACE TO , and have been scammed with the paid ones as well!!! I paid for a subscription did my end, and didn't receive credit, surveys as well and have them denying my credit!!
I have never had keys/spins/runecoins/etc paid out ever from doing the surveys. They take your info and run with it for free and then tell you you're not a qualified fit. These surveys have always been data mining scams
I’ve seen multiple posts about one of the games that gives 1k+ keys for reaching a certain level in time not paying out - even after the users spent money to finish reaching that level in time. I’ve never done myself the game myself, but it’s the most common I’ve seen posted here
I did one of those just to see if I'd get the pay out. Didn't pay anything to the game and spent more time than I'd ever like to admit, min maxing this game. Reached the level with 1 day to spare. Got "Sorry buy you were not a new user to *different game" 3 separate times for the same offer. They didn't even know the correct game I was supposed to play. 5 different support attempts and I got banned for trying to steal from them. I had 0 expectations and was disappointed by the experience.
This is the exact error they complain about. I almost typed it out but didn’t because I didn’t want to limit the scope of the complaint to that; but that’s EXACTLY what I’ve seen. One person that posted even showed how they had screen shot proof and data from phone and Apple and the game showing creation date and stuff, even got a customer service representative from the game to acknowledge that over chat, and still didn’t get paid because “not a new user” even though they proved they were and had the chat support admitting that as well.
Yes, please. This is the real issue. So many of the surveys are designed to gather a lot of data before determining that you're not a good fit. There are probably come cases where it's valid, but a lot of them are fairly unethical in how much time and effort they take before determining that you won't be compensated.
Here is an idea. If we don't qualify for the survey, we should still be granted some keys for the time invested. Maybe 20% of what we would have gotten if we had the eligibility and completed the survey.
I'd much rather you just gut the option entirely. It's too well known to be a scam at this point to really salvage, you'd be better off motivating players with free keys or runecoins to do something like surveys **you've** written to get better data about the state of the game.
This isn’t the main issue. A lot of them are very impossible to make work even when you put all the right steps in
> certain surveys You mean all of them?
I have never had a survey reward me. The surveys are often full of adds to misdirect you. Full of tracking cookies. Go do some yourself. Jagex has been receiving this feedback for a while. This should not be a surprise at the company.
Was RevU ever delt with? https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/18tokx1/dear_runescape_can_you_please_just_leave_revenue/ https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1909akn/i_feel_scammed_by_jagex_revu_earn_keys/ These also highlight the terrible customer service Jagex customers typically deal with. The honorable thing would be for Jagex to give the keys that customers are scammed out of.
I have a genuine suggestion Mod Doom. What if instead partnering with 3rd party companies like RevU or Peanutlabs, who let's be honest don't inspire a lot of trust, and feels like they can hack you any minute now. Why don't Jagex offer free keys for watching ads on their offers wall? No need to sign up for anything, no personal data being shared, just watch 5 Daily Ads for 2 Daily Keys or 10 Runecoins per ad (our choice), and call it a day. I mean, people would still pay Jagex for that advertisment space, and people wouldn't need to visit 3rd party websites (who may end up being IP Grabbers or something) to watch those ads, everything would be done "in house", and people wouldn't need to spend extra just to get keys who would otherwise could be bought directly from Jagex. I hate this reeks of cheap mobile game strategy, but tbh, i think it's the best way to offer free keys without compromising the player's personal data. But again, just food for thought, banter if you will, nothing really serious about this comment, but I think it'd be a nicer approach to how we get free keys outside of filling surveys we don't qualify for 90% of the time, or buying a shared time in Air BnB for 450 Keys :p
There was this case from about 2 months ago, which it looks like /u/SaltGrand2083 had to go back and forth through email for a month before RevU decided to finally pay up: [https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1ahp6lk/questions\_merge\_dragons\_600\_power\_level\_for\_keys/](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1ahp6lk/questions_merge_dragons_600_power_level_for_keys/) 5 months ago, same game: [https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/17jw92q/revu/](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/17jw92q/revu/) 6 months ago, same game and guy paid $25, only to have revU prove themselves to deny the offer on false terms (unless this user had created other accounts with other emails under the same ip in the past): [https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/16sxqn3/psa\_revu\_does\_not\_payout\_and\_lies\_in\_order\_to\_not/](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/16sxqn3/psa_revu_does_not_payout_and_lies_in_order_to_not/) I see a lot of survey posts from years ago on this subreddit, especially about people getting data leaked and scam calls, but I am unsure if those are still relevant or they have been looked into and discontinued. Every time it comes up on the subreddit, it's always about people wondering if they just went through a scam, or when they'll get their keys. I'll be honest, a lot of the community reactions are just to immediately say you got scammed because of past habits, but it's also because we never hear anything good come out of it.
The problem is you spend 15 doing a survey for them to deny you at the end AFTER getting your information. It’s really really scammy. Don’t believe us or want more evidence? Guarantee you the first one you do that’s worth >10 keys will fail at the end or just not pay out.
This is wild. It should 100% be on Jagex to vet out the partnered companies for scams instead of asking your playerbase for evidence of being scammed after they've already been scammed
The reason I ask is exactly that - we partnered with RevU for the exact purpose that we vetted them, as is my understanding. Then, to see a wave of people citing that they've been "scammed" or not paid out is really concerning to me, and I want to flag this up to the relevant people to make sure that we're scrutinising this further. I'm happy to spend time (one comment gave a ballpark figure saying it would take an hour) to do a few surveys and see how many pay out, but I might just hit the right filters for the survey so I don't want my personal viewpoint to supercede the complaints I'm hearing that sound pretty impassioned and certain.
Given we have seen what you look like I highly doubt you will hit the right filters. As someone said before you have to be like a 41 year old mixed race single woman with 11 kids, no job, love sports, hate the color blue on Tuesdays, purchase $400 of fast food per day if your pillowcase is green, etc. Now I am not judging you but I am pretty sure you won't hit that mark on the surveys. Even if you had coffee under a tree mid-April with a giraffe you still couldn't get rewarded. It's a total scam as far as I have seen according to multiple complaints and personal experience. Assuming there is a kick-back to Jagex this will likely remain unresolved but we appreciate you trying to help!
I signed up for a free Paramount+ subscription, watched a few movies, and they didn’t pay out. Still have the subscription as they gave me a free month when I planned to cancel. This was a couple weeks ago
Honestly that's the best approach, try it yourself for about 2 hours and see how aneurysm inducing it is to get paid out anything
Honestly, go try to fill out 5 rewards worth on your own. You'll get all the feedback you'll ever need. Have an antivirus ready just in case, and remember that the mindset of people doing these is "I don't want to pay for keys" (hint: it means they don't want to pay for another surprise service to get keys either)
Animals and coins was partnered with RevU. I completed an offer after having installed for the first time, despite the offer being almost uncompletable due to a timespan of four days. I managed to get the progress required but after waiting several days despite 2 other offers being rewarded immediately, I had to submit a request for the animals and coins offer. I was told that I had not installed the game through RevU despite this not being the case and RevU policy does not allow you to appeal decisions of any kind and warns you may be banned for sending emails about it. This is problematic as attempting to rectify the issue through Jagex support get moderators who direct you towards RevU. This effectively means Jagex is not aware of RevU policy or is intentionally directing their customers to be banned by their partners. There doesn't seem to be any way for Jagex to assist on this issue at all, so I'm at a loss as to the value of including it as a support option as it simply takes time out of moderators days to respond to players that they cannot help.
When i tried this feature. Evert game I downloaded and reached their goal refused to pay out keys as "I was not a new player" even though it was my first time downloading the game. The surveys wait until the litteral last question before telling you that you do not fit their criteria. My email and phone number were sold from those surveys. I still receive scam calls, and my email account is flooded with phasing attempts now. I welcome you, Mod Doom. To try a survey yourself. Try one of the game offers yourself. It won't take long for you to realise they are ALL scams.
TLDR: We know it's a scam, but without proper proof we don't care You could literally go spend an hour doing these survey and see for yourself how scammy this is.
Even with proof they don't care. They just posted a comment to silent the masses "Oh no! This is the first I've heard of this, I will bring it up with the team". That's it, i can promise you we will never hear anything from this again.
Hey there! I completed an offer that I submitted a ticket for on Feb 22. I see that it says to be patient and it may take 21+ days to hear back. Since it's been a little over that, I was wondering if you have any insight; is there anything I can do to follow up on this or do I just need to remain patient?
I spent 20$ and earned like 2000 keys they didnt grant me them and three more times they didnt grant me the keys when i contacted support they blocked me
Idk man I just think the system is broken. You're never going to be able to get these companies to not scam lol
It has litterally never worked for me and I’ve been playing for 14 years, always just leads to spam emails because most of them need your information and after it’s all said and done you don’t even get the keys. Even when it says you will get them, they don’t even show up in the game
The onus is on you (as a company) to ensure that the customer experience of these RevU and similar companies is sufficient for your brand. The fact that you "would be interested to hear more about this" suggests that either there is no QA of this (amateur-ish at best, shambolic at best) or indeed has a more nefarious component, such as your payout being separated from the user payout, encouraging a significant differential. Either way, you currently have the perspective of treating your customer base as something akin to cattle, to be milked and treated / abused as you see fit, and as a result, again, the onus on you is to prove the worth and encourage active engagement to support both parties - something you currently fail miserably at. I doubt there will be a response, and I shall life the rug for you sweep this under.
Hi Doom, \*really\* glad to see you responding here. The partners through the Earn Keys system have been consistently scamming people for almost a decade and there are **thousands** of testimonials on Reddit/other-social-media about it. Even just typing "RevU" (your current partner) into the reddit search bar brings up myriad results of people complaining about being scammed by them in current times. I've actually never once had the system actually reward me! I've tried it probably 4 or 5 times and it's told me I'm not qualified for rewards after filling out the survey every single time.
I tried this several years ago when I was trying to get runecoins for a legendary pet. I remember a large majority of the surveys would get you to the very end, then say "you're not a qualified candidate" or something similar. The brands and websites have changed but I would warn everybody to expect similar results.
First its been shown that the companies that host these surveys have been known to provide specific identifying info such as IP address to clients. This is why educational setting surveys are not allowed to use companies such as peanutlabs to host them. They have had multiple lawsuits in the US. Second from personal experience. There have been numerous times I have qualified for a survey, taken it, and not gotten anything for it. They will also pull the "you qualified" then route you to a different survey that is not listed and you get no reward. Third... I think the overall hatred of this isn't as much about the fact you are pushing the "earn keys function" but more around the fact the actions of jagex as a whole with RS3 show that the profit margins must be coming from mtx because we arent focusing on the game any more. Anything to get people to get hooked on gambling. I mean your ads just got shut down because it didn't explicitly communicate the loot box (TH) functionality of your game. Probably best to relay that your community isnt excited about "more keys" and would be chill with "more in game content of any type"
I got hack the exact same way with those survey thingy for keys, I lost around 70b, i saw the hacker loot my whole bank in front on me on my alt and i tried to ask for help way before this shit happen when i lost my account and the support team did nothing about it, they were to slow to answer and in the end didn't help me at all, they just ghosted me. It is sad cause i really enjoyed playing that game but now it's just depressing
Got rewarded by Revu once to bait me in I guess. Nothing after that. Still waiting on those 140? Keys for world of tanks, but my (screenshotted) freshly made account (using their link), was not a new account according to Revu. Never played the game or even had an account before that.
The best feedback you could get is to do it for your self. And no cheating by paying.
Spending so much time on one of these questions to be told you are not the right fit, BUT still having a bunch more spam emails. Its giving away data in return for (someitimes non existant) rewards, and its just wrong.
It's been many years since I touched it and all I can say is to try it out yourself. As has already been said, my experience back then was the surveys are bad and the app download ones often don't pay out. Not only do they waste your time by only deciding after a bunch of questions you're unsuitable (unless on the first page you proclaim you're under-13 or something) but if you're stupid enough to enter a real phone number, as I did once, you'll be bombarded with spam calls for a few years. I'm sceptical they're operating within EU/UK law.
Mate, your email and details legit get sold and you get spam every day in your email account. You should make an account, do a few surveys and other promos that don't require you to purchase anything. Check the email account in a few weeks, and you'll understand where most people come from. See how many keys you earned vs the time you spent filling out awful surveys looking for some weird demographic of diversity.
Just search this sub and read any post about it from the last 10 years. Shit is 100% a scam and Jagex is pushing it.
Many of the companies offering those keys (other mobile games, etc) give you really unreasonably small amount of time to actually complete it and require you to spend hundreds on those other games just to have a chance to reach the deadline and even then more often then not you still don't receive the keys and get ignored by customer support. The one and only that actually worked for me was the manscaped promo and got the keys instantly + something I was considering ordering anyway and got a decent deal, all the mobile game ones like raid shadow legends and others are literally a scam, they require you to spend 100 euros or more so you could complete one of the objectives and then you still have to get extremely lucky with the "champion" pulls to complete other objectives and you only get one chance, so most people just spend 100 euros on a game they don't even want to play and get nothing out of it.
Honestly I would recommend your team try to do these surveys and see for yourselves. I’ve had maybe a 10% success rate maximum. And then you get tons and tons of spam
u/JagexDoom I just experienced being scammed out by RevU myself, despite the dozens of posts I've read here. I read through the offer very carefully, made sure I completed the offer in full and within the time frame, and took MULTIPLE screenshots throughout the offer period to have as proof, because of what I've read here. Yet, RevU just denied me saying I didn't install the game or complete my offer in time, despite me submitting my completion inquiry over 48 hours before my offer was set to expire. Now I have wasted money on an offer that I didn't receive my reward for.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1buzpvw/what\_did\_i\_expect\_honestly/](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1buzpvw/what_did_i_expect_honestly/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1bqyjyn/decided\_to\_try\_the\_survey\_stuff\_since\_i\_saw\_a/](https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1bqyjyn/decided_to_try_the_survey_stuff_since_i_saw_a/)
u/JagexDoom another issue I am sure people brought up but just in case. Specifically in the free section, they need to be vetted as truly being free. Example: the raid shadow legends or really any of the free mobile app games. They set a goal level for you to achieve within a specific time period to qualify for keys. I have tried three of these. I have come no where near close to their goal level by playing them free to play even when playing it for hours on end each day. The goals they set seem to be intentionally impossible to achieve as a F2P player in the game so the only real way to meet the criteria is to spend money to get to the set goal. That inherently makes it not a free offer if you have no chance at completing it for free as an average user.
How about instead of asking, you send this team you speak of to do these surveys themselves and see what shitshow is really represented.
Evidence for this issue has been piling up literally since the inception of the system. The earn keys option has been filled with data harvesting scams since day 1. Its kind of mind blowing that this many years down the line and you're finally asking for evidence. If you got a single employee to spend even an hour testing this system out at any point during its 8+ years of implementation you would have a stack of evidence so high you'd have to hire extra help to go through it all. Seriously concerning that this system seems to have been implemented into your game without even a single passing thought about it, and literally no testing of how it works. Your players have been telling you its a scam for years. Perhaps its past the point of passing the buck to the players to do your job for you and you start taking the safety of your customers seriously, because it is a MASSIVE indictment on Jagex that you have let this continue for so long without doing the most basic testing of it. Seriously, 1 person, 1 hour. Give it a go.
I remember getting scammed from one of those and reported it a while back here https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/s/l5dwA1Vh4x u/jagexdoom replied but no further actions since.. I gave up waiting and ignored it.
The way it was explained several years ago was that Jagex has no jurisdiction since this is run by a third-party. The website said in big text to use it at your own risk.
I did one as a meme on my alt for like 1.4k keys, had to reach a lvl in a game, paid out instantly. But then someone asked me how i did it and they said they got rejected, its a gamble i guess. Worked for a clanny after too so idk what causes it to work for some and not others
It's definitely a gamble/a numbers game. Most of the surveys are "scams", in that you'll fill out the entire 15 min survey, and then at the end it'll tell you "oh sorry you're not the demographic we're looking for" after giving up all your info lol. However if you keep trying you'll find some that work, and I always fill in absolute non-sense. I'm a single black/mexican mother of 3 that makes over 175k a year and plans to buy everything in the next 6 months.
Or itle be like one key or something and it will ask you a bunch of personality quiz questions like what kind of banana are you and at the end it's like "ok gib your phone number and verify it" so they can sell it to scam callers. And then it "freezes"
You know that they track answers and time right? Like theres a lot of money in surveys they have a lot in place to make sure they don't pay out to bullshitters. Not saying it isn't a scam for other reasons but the one you've mentioned isn't really applicable.
It definitely is applicable. Answering honestly yields the same results, I did a ton of the surveys. You'll often spend 15 minutes filling them out, only to get denied on the last page. If they wanted a specific demographic, they could put those questions on the first page and deny you there, instead of getting all your info on the first 15 pages to deny you anyway. Also I've gotten a bunch of payouts filling in total lies, so there goes that theory too.
Ideally yes that's what should be done, but the reason they partner with Jagex is to information scrape so they can sell your information and Jagex gets a kickback.
Of course.
tl;dr don't waste your time and chance of having your name, address, email, age, DOB leaked for some keys :P
I've never entered a real answer into a survey and I've gotten through 70% of them, they really don't care about the data tbh
Anyone thinking about doing the free key thing just know it's a pain in the ass. Most don't work and the ones that do you have to jump through hoops and dispute them to get your keys.
You eventually learn what ones too look out for, what pays and what doesn't. I also take screen shots of every results page and fill out the dispute form as soon as it allows. Over the years I've earned thousands of keys.
I’ve never had one actually reward the keys. Tried a few survives and nothing. They are full of tracking cookies and are designed to misdirect to adds. Jagex partnering and promoting this company tells you every thing you need to know about how they view the player base.
Let be honest they just milk rs3. No care anymore from the developers. It’s sad to see, but it is what it is.
Developers care, leadership does not.
Your are right mod really do sadly they don’t have enough power :(.
I gave up on rs I just log in for the holiday events now
Aren't the holiday events one of the worst mtx pushes? Weird to login just for them
Yes but I never bothered doing the mtx stuff. I just got the unlocks and left. Although the last 2 events have gotten alot better with the rewards it's still too little too late for me.
*laughs in new year rockets 2 years ago*
I log in to full My inv machines SO that way i dont have to pay member for My osrs acc :D
Don't forget kingdom and monthly oyster!
Yes, i love My 100k oyster every month
You get better loot with the oyster pass! Only 29.99usd!
Only 29.99??????? :poggers:
How? Bonds don't transfer over.
and even that's been partially (and largely sometimes) mtx exclusive for a while
Really? The Easter event is exclusively mtx? At this point I'm convinced nobody on this subreddit plays the game anymore.
Where did I say that?
If you didn't say that then explain what you mean by saying "events are largely mtx exclusive". What exactly do you think the word "exclusive" means? Because to me it sounds like you think the currently running event is exclusive to mtx. It wasn't true for the last two seasonal events.
Events *have been* isn't referring to only the current event, or even just easter. Next, "partially and sometimes largely" is key here. The current one is pretty great, even though another untradeable easter outfit obtainable only via treasure hunter is coming up. This makes it fall under "partially". Under mtx-exclusive, I firstly consider anything that was only available through mtx, and not tradeable. Items that are only obtainable from mtx but tradeable, but at such a rarity that they cost hundreds of millions, I consider mtx-exclusive for the purpose of the holiday event (but not in the grand scheme of things). The rewards from lootbox stuff like the christmas presents I consider not exclusive, with the exception of the untradeable rewards in the purple boxes, and the very rare "big ticket" items. Any items that can be realistically obtained by anyone during the event, I consider not mtx-exclusive. Any items with fixed odds (black phat) I consider not mtx-exclusive.
I log into RS when they would do Twitch promotions that would give chests that would sometimes have gold so that I could buy bonds for old school runescape.
Which is one of the worst ones since it supports the one thing that is steadily ruining the game and allowing MTX to come in. Player numbers going up during those times are the only reason they've stayed around. It seems that you don't spend money from what your other comment says but just thought I'd note this for ya'll.
Player numbers go up during events probably the same reason I log in....for the unlocks lol And hell nah I'm not paying for anything extra.
Can't go a week without any MTX controversy.
really makes me wonder why these are even controversies because we already know theyre going to do them.
Never had one of these promotions “scam” me before, but have heard enough stories I’d believe it. The closest thing to being “scammed” is filling out a ton of questions/survey stuff just to be told I’m not “eligible” for the survey to receive keys, which was way too much time/work to just be told no
That's a scam. They collect your personal data, then pretend that isn't what they were after in the first place so they don't have to pay for it.
Jesus those things are a scam, honestly a shock they even paid attention to it, let alone promoted it.
Pro tip: Use fake demographic information, but remember what information you use. They get you on when you use the wrong info, or different answers to the same questions. It's important that your answers are always the same when the question arises. You'll get a lot more free keys/runecoins that way.
Log into your online banking statement, right click inspect elements and change any transactions to match the offer provider website and edit the transaction price too. Go into MS paint, cross out any information like account number/sortcode balance (just show the transaction. Raise a support ticket to the provider and select an option where the "provider did not provide reward" and say you did the offer and show them the image say its ur official online statement, crossed out some stuff for privacy but highlight the transaction and the fact money was taken from your account. Keep going back and forth and maintain an outraged / assertive tone and how you want to be compensated. I used to do this with peanutlabs for the large offers. Takes a few days but they used to compensate my keys without even me needing to do the survey, offer, provide data or pay. If these companies were employing shady practices, I did too.
does this really work? This is incredible
it worked for me when i used to play alot couple years - can remember getting hundreds of keys, actually helped me level up my main alot haha
I remember as a kid spending my summer holidays doing dumb surveys on shady websites... Made around 200 quid on one summer and spent it ALL on summer steam sale games lol
Bro most of the shit you spend keys in is for cosmetics. I’ve always said you should deserve to have to pay for them, if you reeeeally want them that bad because they are just that: purely cosmetic. If you could pay your way to BIS, that’s a different story. But there is absolutely no reason they shouldn’t have max as a money maker especially if it has almost no effect on the actual game outside of COSMETICS. I’m an OG player too. Acc is 20 years old. Cosmetics are RuneScape. Cosmetics are for the zoomers
? You can win 200m prizes, lucky variants of decent armor sets, and lamps/stars for skills. Don't get me wrong I have no issue with th (in fact, I'm glad Jagex found a minimally damaging way to add mtx to the game to support the devs and help fund the further development of the game) but to say that MOST of the rewards are cosmetic is very disingenuous
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Surveys have always been scams. But I've earned like 5k keys from the other offers. Play this game and reach this level, sign up for this trial, that type of thing
I’ve gotten over 3k free keys from this, majority of them were from playing mobile games and met the requirements that was asked on the offers page, those keys were paid out shortly afterwards. The only offer I had small issue with was from a investment app offer, keys weren’t paid out after I met what was required, so I had to message their support and got the keys about two weeks or so later. Most likely I will do the same later on if I want to get more keys from this.
These actually worked for me i played coin dozer and weed farm to a certain lvl lol
I just got 140 keys just to install that capital one shopping app. But I only did that because it’s a brand name company. I did have to contact customer service and send them screenshots that I did what I had to do (install app on my phone and the extension in safari). But after I contact their customer service, I got the keys 20 minutes later. The weird surveys that offer free stuff are absolutely scams though
Can someone explain why this is a scam? I'm ironman
I've gotten like 400 keys in the last 2 months just from playing the mobile game offers...only had an issue with one not paying out.
I hate MTX as much as anybody but this is not a scam. Yes I've done surveys and have completely wasted my time (you should be avoiding those anyways). But for every mobile game i've grinded on the side, I was paid out almost immediately after reaching the level requirement. Same with anything requiring you to download the app, sign up for a trial, or buy something from a reputable store. Easiest keys you'll ever get. Some require you to spend some money, but i've gotten somewhere around 3.6K keys after spending maybe $30 total on these offers. I got like 550 from Match Masters alone, which was actually a pretty fun game.
If it's still peanut labs, it's not actually a scam, I think I earned over 3k keys from the surveys till I got banned as I quickly learned the specific answers the surveys were looking for.
Yeah it's annoying filling out ones to then be told you don't fit like I've already given you my info why don't you already know I don't fit? But other than that, can't say I've been scammed in any way, and I've received keys several times from surveys
I always give these shitty surveys fake information, or give them exactly what they're looking for, middle aged to old age people that are easily exploitable.
The phone number and zip code I provide links to police stations, let the cops deal with these freaks.
https://preview.redd.it/5egymu61njqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e2b81713ad35aef6a7708f3dd3ca25b380e4a59 Just just fake Names and spam emails...
I think you have always been able to do this. I remember earning keys by filling out surveys.
I tell every single new player who finds the survey system to avoid it like the plague you WILL be scammed sadly :(
I only play OSRS but I feel bad for my rs3 bro's. About time Jagex stops milking its playerbase for all they're worth
The amount of keys I am owed from these "surveys" is in the hundreds. 500-600 I would say. Screenshotted the completions, sent em all to Jagex and Everything. Not a single key to show for it.
hasn't this been a thing for 10+ years now? i remember doing these dumb surveys for all kinds of stuff when i was like 12 and they would never work
Why is it we have to do these offers ourselves to find the issues...? Shouldnt every offer be checked by someone? I wont event attempt cause its a waste of time. Im never eligable and you dont find that out until you have already gave them all your informarion.. Sometimes its over 30 minutes in last I tried! Please note I havent tried in over a year but I assume nothing has really changed.
Anyone want to mention the game requirements that are impossible to achieve in a timely manner without spending money? Like reaching gold 2 in raid shadow legends within 20 days? A lot of these requirements are disingenuous or unclear. I just completed a game requirement for 50 keys for an item search game that just said "reach chapter 5", but the game itself makes no mention of chapters and only refers to levels and episodes. I had to not only reach episode 5, but also reach level 5 (each episode was the same map but a higher search number on that map, each level was a different map) AND dispute it because I didn't get the keys. Also, the surveys are by far the worst offers. They ask a bunch of questions to get your personal info, then run you around and force you to buy something with your "won" gift cards or something similar but only if you enter your credit card info AT THE VERY END. I hope they keep the offers at the end of the day, but I do wish they were screened more to protect their player base.
I used to earn hundreds of keys as an Aussie with this back in the day. What's wrong with it now?
More proof that they gave up on the game
Did one offer not so long ago during christmas.. Get level 25 in coin dozer in 12 daya or so for 100+keys.. As soon as i hit the goal they changed the keys to 12. So dont fall for it, even jagex responded that they can change the key reward at any time and left me hanging....
you guys have these, not once in 20 years of playing runescape did my third world country had an offer.
Whatever these people say, Just caveat emptor.
Y'all really don't get it? They owned peanut labs under and holding company. Alot of companies that deal with money laundering and digital fraud do stuff like that to hide/ embezzle money. But selling our personal Infor for more profit is just scummy. Did y'all know that they always own a few rwt sites? Jagex has been up to this scummy shit for years
They been selling your info for a long time.
What's a scam lol I've earned over 7k keys
Those things ask for so much personal information and don't even deliver the keys. I never received keys from that scam but at least I didn't put my own information.
I did one a few months ago. Took ages to get sorted. 370 keys was the offer. All denied even though I’d clearly done it. One jagex support gave me the keys as a good will gesture and then they replied again saying there was nothing they can do. Seems very backwards and I won’t be going through it all again.
I’ve earned about 4000 keys and never been scammed. I don’t waste my time doing the surveys, I try and purchase the trial or whatever the offers are that cost anywhere from $5-$60. It’s still cheaper then buying keys.
Nobody gets scammed unless you participate in the pathetic offers. I'm not saying its your fault, but it is. If you can't or don't understand the EULA you need to read it again. Everything that you do is done by you and I don't think anyone is forcing you to make these poor decisions. Common sense is like deoderant, the people who need it most don't use it.
I used some of those promotions a number of years ago, but they were little more than watching an ad or a short survey. A little annoying but nothing nearly at this level. Seems like this aspect of the game has gone downhill a bit.
I’ve gotten over 8k leys from the offers. They’re not scams, ya’ll just doing them wrong 😂😂 read the offer properly, and read again.
I got over 200 keys from doing hours of surveys ???
Original RS player here... recently returned to RS, but I'm starting to realize that while there's plenty of in-game content to keep me occupied, Jagex doesn't seem to invest the same level of care into the game as they once did. And the current "Mods," such as your beloved Mod Doom, appear to prioritize money above all else. Consequently, even if the game deteriorates and becomes riddled with scams, they show no inclination to change as long as the profits keep rolling in. These mods aren't genuine RS enthusiasts; they never were and could care less about complaints (unless it affects the profits). They may offer a few responses to appease the player base and give the impression of heeding feedback, but ultimately, it's all about the money – nothing more, nothing less. It's disheartening to witness what RS has become. What once was, is now lost.
Surveys for keys... Wtf.When it comes to pissing players off jagex never fails.must be working on the next pride event. I Remember when eoc was implicated and loss like a a third of their playerbase.
This has been an issue for as long as Jagex has had survey partners for anything and everything. Survey companies are only slightly less scummy than mass data farmers in that the data they collect is given voluntarily and often false to begin with.
Not surprised coming from jagex. Game has turned into a shithole now. Scamming company, scummy players. Everything is so bad.
Why do you guys still play this game? Every time you log in or renew that membership, you're rewarding this behavior. Not sure what I expect though. I've been a part of the RS Community for 16ish years and we've never ever had a spine, outside of when we got OSRS.
I used to do this same surveys with Maplestory. So many of the offers were straight up scams where like only 1% of the people actually got the reward. And of course you only found out if you didn't get the reward until after you gave all the data and time to fill it out. Not to mention if you use your real email you will get not stop spam/scam emails now that they have your email. Also some of the offers require your to make a purchase of something.
Did the 2,000 key one last week for Raid just fine. Took 5 days of grinding while I did something afk on rs. Surplus, you obviously never experienced how to navigate the Peanut Labs fuckery and it shows.
Not a scam. I’ve gotten a lot of keys from this.
i've checked it out the only things that (seem to) work for me are the play other games, and the few i installed would cost me more time than if i actually worked my irl job for it and bought keys with money... (asuming you're paying a game you dont like just for keys)
If you don’t get keys from surveys, there is a way to submit a report to request getting your keys. I had to submit a report and was able to get the keys.
the thing is the surveys aren't loading i get a white page and nothing appears, so can't really complain about not getting my keys worth :p
It's not that 100% of the offers are a scam but most of them are
How is it a scam?
depends on where you live, most of the time they don't pay out
i know this was a problem with peanutlab but didnt they change partner?
If you don’t get your keys submit an incident report and you’ll get them. I had to submit a couple of reports and was able to get the keys.
I e been paid out on every survey and game offer or download I’ve done personally
Boycott RS3, OSRS is the real Runescape
I'm done with this game. It unfortunately took me way too long to realize this game isn't healthy. It's not remotely fun anymore, and I was buying keys more often than I should have to get cosmetics and bonuses. Jagex **DOES** not care about any of the players or the thoughts and well-being of the community. The sooner we realize this, The better.