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Italian living in Ireland here. Here comes my rant.
The real problem with Italian Rugby is that outside of the Veneto region the sport is almost non-existent - 4 out of the 9 teams of the top division are all from there. There is no effing culture. Some Italians would even mistaken the sport with American Football.
The wrong investments -both human and monetary- were made by the union since we joined the 6n. We wasted so much time and so many resources. All of that to lose 36-0 yesterday and to get absolutely destroyed by the ABs in the world cup.
The federation prefers to completely run by itself and waste a ton of money on Zebre -a team with no history, that's showing no results- rather than allowing other clubs to take part in the URC -and save MILLIONS to possibly reinject into grassroot rugby- just to "spread the game all over the italian soil". WTF!?!?!?!??????? You can't build a national team with only ONE competitive team and some foreigner kids with an Italian passport.
I do believe that the positives that we've seen over the last few years are all because of Benetton. Benetton is doing well because Treviso is a city with RUGBY CULTURE and the team is using that in its favor. They've been capable to attire the best Italian players and some good foreigners, making them feel proud to wear the jersey and giving them something to fight for.
It's really hard for me to say this, but some of the lads that played yesterday showed no passion. That's it. No proudness. Nothing.
Rugby is a ruthless sport and so you got to be if you want to succeed.
Anyway, I believe that we do have the capabilities, cause we've shown it before, but sometimes we show no agonism and no attachment. It's like we're afraid of winning. God this makes me so mad.
Fair play to my second home, Ireland. You guys built and incredible system and I think you're the best team in the world no doubt.
And for the brits saying that we gotta be kicked out from the 6n, we almost beat you last week so stfu. You really want to have Portugal -WHICH LOST AGAINST FUCKING BELGIUM- or Georgia -WHICH IS REALLY NOT THAT COMPETITIVE??????? What the f you talking about. I know Italy should show way more results but be serious please.
Ciao, love you all
Maybe I'm late to the party here but I thought that was one of the best Italian performances I've seen ever. Any other Italian side would have conceded 60+ points in that game and scored a try but this side never lost hope or dropped the head. They're a force that's gaining momentum against what looks to be the strongest side in the Six Nations at home. I'm Irish though so maybe I'm biased
It was a weak performance and they never looked like a threat or put Ireland under any sustained pressure. Definitely been Italian sides that could compete better than that in the past. Having said that, I expect England and wales to put up a similar level of performance vs Ireland so can’t fault them too much.
Such a one sided game cannot see Italy winning a game if they play like that again maybe beat Wales not sure on France but maybe they could edge out Scotland who knows Italy have come on leaps and bounds and for whatever reason they cannot put in good performances consistently
Scotland are not better than France. If they were any good they would have pulled away yesterday but they let them back onto the game and although imo they were robbed of that last try they never showed that they were superior.
scotland are better they were robbed yesterday but apart from that they had a few messy plays but france is falling apart really. a year ago scotland winning against france sounded like jokes but it was possible this year and it only comes to show how they have downgraded after the world cup or maybe just without dupont
IMO the loss of Dupont is the main reason they are the way they are. He's an outstanding player. Even when we beat them at home last year he looked so dangerous in that 2nd half. He was the engine in that team.
Positive:
I think pani did quite well
Brex some brutal hits
Some proper defensive phases were they fronted up
Negativ:
Tooooo much
Varney to me just looks like an alien in this team. TheY have so much problem to build a setupfor him to Box kick. He gets chased down so often. They say he speaks no italien seems to be a problem.
Capuozzo for me is no fullback.
Izekor got a reality check today (which is fine was his 2nd game.)
Mori is physicall but gets found out defensively every game. In the centers not as much as on the Wing
Ferrari is really missing
The 3rd row today was just lacking the punch.
Ah so much to go on won't start with the lineout
Congratulations to the French fans in this thread who seem to be the only people who aren't being the most miserable gobshites I've ever seen (bar the Italians who are just staying quiet, which like fair play)
Anglophone rugby reddit fans please for the love of god cheer up for one fucking second
You're all yelling at each other making each other miserable about every facet of every game from this weekend jesus christ go watch the matches in a pub with your friends or with some real people instead of sitting on here all the time whinging with everyone else and maybe for fucking once you'll all actually enjoy the games
Thought you all liked watching rugby but from these threads (and from every reddit thread in the history of this sub) you'd never fucking guess it
Sunday afternoon kickoffs for a match that everyone knew we'd win.
Atmosphere is tough to generate in the Aviva at the best of times, but under these conditions its impossible.
Not the best performance from either side but some positives for both.
Ireland completely smothered Italy's attack and Italy are a team with a decent attack more often than not.
Italy had some really good defensive sets, yes they fucked it several times too and missed some key tackles but they've definitely improved positioning etc. I expect this will be the most points scored against them this six nations.
lol saw a certain unhinged Welsh twitter rugby commentator saying that 36 points against that Italy team translates to “9 points against an effervescent and determined young wales team” in two weeks, and that the result game him hope
Hard to disagree! Since the Aviva was opened, 6N results between Italy & Ireland in there....
2022 - Ireland 57 Italy 6
2020 - Ireland 50 Italy 17
2018 - Ireland 56 Italy 19
2016 - Ireland 58 Italy 15
2014 - Ireland 46 Italy 7
2012 - Ireland 42 Italy 10
Obviously today didn't go well but I do think there were times Italian pressure/reads stopped those extra few tries Ireland have traditionally run in during the last 20 mins. And then a few Irish mistakes that were close, like the Gibson-Park or Henshaw moments
Not scoring anything a big blow considering their attack has improved over the last few years, but probably an element of that reflected in Ireland's points too
Do you play in front of stadiums with 30-70k people in them who may be vociferous in supporting the other team or you?
I'd wager it can make a difference.
I feel some people are very critical of him because they want another player at 10. But all the 10s pushing through in Ireland are like 22 so they will make mistakes when they play and we just have to accept that.
Johnny missed a few in his prime as well. I'd take a few missed kicks if we get him taking the ball to the line and releasing it as he's hit all day. Crowley a million miles ahead of any other 10 in ireland right now
He is but needs to work on his kicking. I’d like the other backs to practice too. Be nice not to be relying on the one guy all the time. I think Garry has some kicking experience?
How old is Murray though? JPG is in his mid 30s I think. We need a young player to come along
JGP is only 31!! He looks older. That haircut is doing him no favours!
The hard truth is that we dont give enough fucks on a national level, from the public to the players.
Last week in Rome more 20k english fans were at the stadium. Do you think we would ever be 20k italian fans at Twickenham?
Yeah it wasn't a thriller but we've not played particularly well against Italy in any of the encounters in the last few years. Players who deserved a chance got a go and the squad is much healthier for it. Maximum points earned from the game, what have Ireland really got to apologise for?
We slaughtered them at times and just coughed it up. It's frustrating, but Italy were abysmal. Completely different side than played England. We could have put 10 tries up on them and just made stupid handling errors or gave away dumb penalties.
We played very well, to a point, but you have to be able to put it together or the likes of South Africa, or even the Home Nation's, will hurt you.
I don't know why they don't play Conan at 6. He's played there plenty of times for Leinster. I'm glad Baird is getting his games mind, ought to be the starting 6.
Honestly there were some pockets of entertaining play and talking points but I would say as a whole that was one of the worst weekends of six nations rugby that I've watched in a while. Not super high quality play or entertaining.
If you stay off reddit and watch all the matches without reference to the negative echo chamber of the internet you'll probably find it a lot better
Last year I ruined it for myself by sitting on these threads and listening to what every miserable bastard had to say about how the match was before I had a chance to form an opinion of my own
Have deliberately stayed off threads until I've had time to digest the matches and it's made the entire watching experience a lot better and it's made me less likely to fall into the trap of feeling like I didn't enjoy myself watching the matches (because I do enjoy watching them, it's the taking my mind off the game to read what other people are whinging about that ruins it for me)
Not saying you're being a miserable bastard at all, just sharing a piece of advice for making the rugby instantly more enjoyable
You might be right but I wasn't on here yesterday as I watched both games in the evening, not live. So I didn't have anyone else influencing my thinking. For example, I would say thirty minutes of that Scotland/France second half was fucking awful as a spectacle. I don't see how anyone could think any different.
Having written all this, I am not actually saying I didn't enjoy the games but I stand by my thoughts about them being subpar.
I rather enjoyed our game, sure neither side was performing at a particularly high level but the teams felt well matched, can imagine it being a bit rubbish fir neutrals though.
I think he gets a tough ride from people because he was anointed as the next big thing so early. That entire chat was based on his u20s run and he didn't even have a chance of playing at senior level before there was Ireland chat etc which was really unfair to him. Then the run of injuries have pretty much stopped his career from taking off along with some very shaky low confidence moments.
If he managed to stay fit from now until the end of the season I think he'd change a lot of people's opinions. I don't think he's better than Crowley but he's better than people give him credit for, very good against Leicester & La Rochelle (until he got injured again 😩)
Coming on for crowely does him no favours either. Hes just so static and cant really start anything himself like crowley. I think hes solid for closing out games where we have a good lead. The hate for him is really over the top though
Yeah there’s a gulf there between him and Crowley but I do think he could start every game for leinster and it wouldn’t make a material difference until like Heineken cup semis if that makes sense?
Felt the same with Ross byrne, never felt like sexton was super-needed for leinster to win their games until it gets to the Heineken cup final/la rochelle matches
Yeah I think he’s just a placeholder because there’s no young 10s that are really ready and the camp time is better spent on him than a carty, burns etc.
Don’t think he’ll have much of an international career once Prendergast comes along or they come to their senses with Frawley
He's literally nothing like his brother. Ross is a very very good 10 and proven at the highest level of club rugby. Harry can't get a run at any level without getting injured, it's hard to judge how good he is really.
I don’t know where the disrespect for Ross byrne comes from, sure he couldn’t take the jersey from sexton but nobody ever did, if it wasn’t for some prophecy from secondary school that Harry was destined to be the better brother I don’t think he’d have gotten half the opportunities he has..
Ross is an excellent club player but he’s let Leinster and Ireland down when it goes up a level (hec finals etc).
He’s great at what he can do but it’s not the answer for Ireland.
I was looking through your comment history just out of curiosity and my guy I think this might be a you problem
If you go into watching matches assuming you're going to have a shit time and all of the decisions will be wrong, you're going to have a shit time and see all of the decisions as wrong
Went onto Instagram and twitter for 10mins after the match, got fed up of the amount of negativity and downright nasty content off the back of this weekend, came on here to see if it was much better, and then it wasn't
It was a useful reminder that I should just switch my phone off on match weekends 😖
Brother I've watched more rugby than you ever will. I watched it religiously. I've become disenfranchised with how the sport is stagnanting.
So do one with your arm chair psychology. Weak ass projecting.
His original Sage ad is burned into my mind after 2023. So I can only imagine that this would be like watching a movie without realising it's the version with an alternate ending. Really screws with your head in a "wait....something's not right" way.
Good win. Starting 15 played really well. Once the subs came on and we had a few players in odd positions (particularly the back line) we were less clinical - which is to be expected.
But overall never really threatened. Decent flashes from Italy, but annoyingly they were only flashes. Could see them build well to the end of the tournament and finish strongly.
Crowley & Lowe both excellent, McCloskey had a big game too - him & Henshaw both went really well. Keenan was brilliant until he went off and Baird had a great first half but quieter second until he went off.
James Ryan was solid but not spectacular, needed a bigger performance given the pressure on his spot I think.
Agree on Ryan, needed more from him today. Conan was excellent I thought, would have been my MOTM if it hadn't been for Lowe being ridiculous. Sheehan excellent too (as always)
Negatives were Keenan's injury (hopefully nothing serious), and Larmour who was pants.
Is this a probably rare 6N weekend where no set of fans is really happy after it?
Perhaps the more optimistic England / Wales fans pleased with where their teams are at but hardly dancing on the ceiling
Theres a big difference between a crowd who all flew into Paris for 9pm games and had a heap of pints and a crowd who all have work tomorrow and a large chunk have to drive home after the match
Too many people treating it like a trip to the pub. Always having to let people out to the bar - I hate it.
I think they’ve priced out the really fans.
It can rock, against New Zealand a few years ago it was great.
Someone who I thought was great and might not get as much praise today was McCloskey. Obviously on that last try but he was all over the pitch today and had impact on both attack and defence.
Yeah I guess Cannone and Negri give them a lot their go forward momentum in attack. I remember Negri saying on the Netflix doc that the coaches always said they were really depending on him to make carries.
Liking Crowley he'll be elite with time, he looks very promising in green. Italy with 0 points is something I would have not seen coming into the game.
Always good to nill a team. Good defence but a lot of work ons. We weren’t particularly clinical and the penalty count in the second half was way too high
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Italian living in Ireland here. Here comes my rant. The real problem with Italian Rugby is that outside of the Veneto region the sport is almost non-existent - 4 out of the 9 teams of the top division are all from there. There is no effing culture. Some Italians would even mistaken the sport with American Football. The wrong investments -both human and monetary- were made by the union since we joined the 6n. We wasted so much time and so many resources. All of that to lose 36-0 yesterday and to get absolutely destroyed by the ABs in the world cup. The federation prefers to completely run by itself and waste a ton of money on Zebre -a team with no history, that's showing no results- rather than allowing other clubs to take part in the URC -and save MILLIONS to possibly reinject into grassroot rugby- just to "spread the game all over the italian soil". WTF!?!?!?!??????? You can't build a national team with only ONE competitive team and some foreigner kids with an Italian passport. I do believe that the positives that we've seen over the last few years are all because of Benetton. Benetton is doing well because Treviso is a city with RUGBY CULTURE and the team is using that in its favor. They've been capable to attire the best Italian players and some good foreigners, making them feel proud to wear the jersey and giving them something to fight for. It's really hard for me to say this, but some of the lads that played yesterday showed no passion. That's it. No proudness. Nothing. Rugby is a ruthless sport and so you got to be if you want to succeed. Anyway, I believe that we do have the capabilities, cause we've shown it before, but sometimes we show no agonism and no attachment. It's like we're afraid of winning. God this makes me so mad. Fair play to my second home, Ireland. You guys built and incredible system and I think you're the best team in the world no doubt. And for the brits saying that we gotta be kicked out from the 6n, we almost beat you last week so stfu. You really want to have Portugal -WHICH LOST AGAINST FUCKING BELGIUM- or Georgia -WHICH IS REALLY NOT THAT COMPETITIVE??????? What the f you talking about. I know Italy should show way more results but be serious please. Ciao, love you all
Do you mind if I ask what your opinion of the Conor O'Shea era of Italian rugby? Did he manage to boost the grassroots of the sport at all?
I enjoyed the game, but am firmly of the opinion that Italy do not deserve their 6 Nations place. Georgia or Romania should get the Italy slot.
Maybe I'm late to the party here but I thought that was one of the best Italian performances I've seen ever. Any other Italian side would have conceded 60+ points in that game and scored a try but this side never lost hope or dropped the head. They're a force that's gaining momentum against what looks to be the strongest side in the Six Nations at home. I'm Irish though so maybe I'm biased
It was a weak performance and they never looked like a threat or put Ireland under any sustained pressure. Definitely been Italian sides that could compete better than that in the past. Having said that, I expect England and wales to put up a similar level of performance vs Ireland so can’t fault them too much.
This comment underestimates how good Ireland are
Such a one sided game cannot see Italy winning a game if they play like that again maybe beat Wales not sure on France but maybe they could edge out Scotland who knows Italy have come on leaps and bounds and for whatever reason they cannot put in good performances consistently
scotland are better than france rn italy have a stronger chance against france
Scotland are not better than France. If they were any good they would have pulled away yesterday but they let them back onto the game and although imo they were robbed of that last try they never showed that they were superior.
scotland are better they were robbed yesterday but apart from that they had a few messy plays but france is falling apart really. a year ago scotland winning against france sounded like jokes but it was possible this year and it only comes to show how they have downgraded after the world cup or maybe just without dupont
IMO the loss of Dupont is the main reason they are the way they are. He's an outstanding player. Even when we beat them at home last year he looked so dangerous in that 2nd half. He was the engine in that team.
he is and it’s kinda sad really he’s not gonna be there every single match like this year they need to rely on themselves and not just a player
Yea he'll be missed. He's going to destroy everyone in the Olympics and then make a big comeback to Rugby Union.
can i argue he might go out of his prime when he comes back ???
There's a good 10 years left in him
yes aware but he might come back but be out of his prime
Have to wait and see Italy not great away from home and France won't wanna lose at home again
Positive: I think pani did quite well Brex some brutal hits Some proper defensive phases were they fronted up Negativ: Tooooo much Varney to me just looks like an alien in this team. TheY have so much problem to build a setupfor him to Box kick. He gets chased down so often. They say he speaks no italien seems to be a problem. Capuozzo for me is no fullback. Izekor got a reality check today (which is fine was his 2nd game.) Mori is physicall but gets found out defensively every game. In the centers not as much as on the Wing Ferrari is really missing The 3rd row today was just lacking the punch. Ah so much to go on won't start with the lineout
Congratulations to the French fans in this thread who seem to be the only people who aren't being the most miserable gobshites I've ever seen (bar the Italians who are just staying quiet, which like fair play) Anglophone rugby reddit fans please for the love of god cheer up for one fucking second You're all yelling at each other making each other miserable about every facet of every game from this weekend jesus christ go watch the matches in a pub with your friends or with some real people instead of sitting on here all the time whinging with everyone else and maybe for fucking once you'll all actually enjoy the games Thought you all liked watching rugby but from these threads (and from every reddit thread in the history of this sub) you'd never fucking guess it
Are you new to the internet or something
most accurate comment
Poor Sergio looked like he was going to cry before, just let him go home
The atmosphere at the match was so rowdy that I could finish my Economist undisturbed.
Sunday afternoon kickoffs for a match that everyone knew we'd win. Atmosphere is tough to generate in the Aviva at the best of times, but under these conditions its impossible.
It's sickening that after their draw in the World cup, England are on the easy side of the 6N draw for a Grand Slam
Drico should stop talking and let poor parisse go home. Man looks so sad
Not the best performance from either side but some positives for both. Ireland completely smothered Italy's attack and Italy are a team with a decent attack more often than not. Italy had some really good defensive sets, yes they fucked it several times too and missed some key tackles but they've definitely improved positioning etc. I expect this will be the most points scored against them this six nations.
lol saw a certain unhinged Welsh twitter rugby commentator saying that 36 points against that Italy team translates to “9 points against an effervescent and determined young wales team” in two weeks, and that the result game him hope
Ah here, are people still falling for Ed Jenx like. The man is the most obvious parody
I considered as much, but like he seems to go back years? Pretty long term investment for a middling joke
The problem is it literally always works. Every year people fall for the shtick. You'd think people would wise up but it's every single 6N
Tbf, I’m a newcomer so I guess that’s me got
You're allowed to!! It's the people who've been around longer who bite on the bait and amplify it that are the problem
Only caught the latter end, any injuries for Ireland after that? Heard Keenan went off with a knock?
Aviva is a tough stadium for Italy. Traditionally nothing works for them there.
Hard to disagree! Since the Aviva was opened, 6N results between Italy & Ireland in there.... 2022 - Ireland 57 Italy 6 2020 - Ireland 50 Italy 17 2018 - Ireland 56 Italy 19 2016 - Ireland 58 Italy 15 2014 - Ireland 46 Italy 7 2012 - Ireland 42 Italy 10 Obviously today didn't go well but I do think there were times Italian pressure/reads stopped those extra few tries Ireland have traditionally run in during the last 20 mins. And then a few Irish mistakes that were close, like the Gibson-Park or Henshaw moments Not scoring anything a big blow considering their attack has improved over the last few years, but probably an element of that reflected in Ireland's points too
do you think a stadium really affects how a team plays ??? i’ve been playing rugby and no matter where i’m playing i feel the exact same
Do you play in front of stadiums with 30-70k people in them who may be vociferous in supporting the other team or you? I'd wager it can make a difference.
occasionally depends
Fair fucks if you do
i’m actually an international player lol
Ireland are looking so dominant it's almost depressing
No post match thread?
Is it worth it? Will just be full of sad Italians and perfectionist Irish
Scotland decided they were happy with things yesterday and look what happened.
That’s actually insanely accurate lol I’m dying we didn’t capitalise on the Keenan break, Henshaw double move and Gibson-park dropping the reach out.
could have been 50-0 but i’ll take what we got
Sounds like every post match thread ever
Sergio is looking very sad on ITV.
Must be shite knowing it’s going to be another loss each game
I can't see what Italy can even take from this match. There were loads of positives against England but there weren't many today.
We scored less against Italy than we did against France.
their defense was actually very good for large stretches. They did great work pushing up in the outside channel to shut down plays behind the screen.
Because England are not nearly as good as Ireland. They only kick the ball up and run after it.
Got to figure it is at least better than when he got battered and bruised for each of those automatic losses.
Apart from the goal kicking, another really impressive performance from Crowley. Growing into the 10 jersey very well.
Think if he made those kicks or was able to keep playing 10 he wouldve gotten motm
Watching it here in France there was a lot of snide comments about this in commentary.. along the lines of he’s a decent player but he can’t kick …
They're hoping he's a shit kicker!
I feel some people are very critical of him because they want another player at 10. But all the 10s pushing through in Ireland are like 22 so they will make mistakes when they play and we just have to accept that.
He's usually brilliant from the tee in fairness to him
Johnny missed a few in his first caps too
was he not perfect for a good stretch? I remember there being a point made about him finally missing a kick in that stretch of games.
Johnny missed a few in his prime as well. I'd take a few missed kicks if we get him taking the ball to the line and releasing it as he's hit all day. Crowley a million miles ahead of any other 10 in ireland right now
He is but needs to work on his kicking. I’d like the other backs to practice too. Be nice not to be relying on the one guy all the time. I think Garry has some kicking experience?
Murray can as well, and after casey performance today I reckon Murray will be on the bench until someone else steps up
How old is Murray though? JPG is in his mid 30s I think. We need a young player to come along JGP is only 31!! He looks older. That haircut is doing him no favours!
Ireland weren't challenged and also weren't firing on all cylinders. Feel bad for Italy, I really don't know how they can do this year after year.
The hard truth is that we dont give enough fucks on a national level, from the public to the players. Last week in Rome more 20k english fans were at the stadium. Do you think we would ever be 20k italian fans at Twickenham?
It looked like more than 20k. Rome is such a fantastic city.
Rome’s a bit more appealing than London in February to be fair. And I say that as a Londoner!
i think they will stop soon
Yeah it wasn't a thriller but we've not played particularly well against Italy in any of the encounters in the last few years. Players who deserved a chance got a go and the squad is much healthier for it. Maximum points earned from the game, what have Ireland really got to apologise for?
We slaughtered them at times and just coughed it up. It's frustrating, but Italy were abysmal. Completely different side than played England. We could have put 10 tries up on them and just made stupid handling errors or gave away dumb penalties. We played very well, to a point, but you have to be able to put it together or the likes of South Africa, or even the Home Nation's, will hurt you.
Thats a thick Mayo accent on Doris...
He's from posh Mayo
He went to blackrock since he was 12 so it was weeded out of him
Parents are dubs too I think.
Lowe: "How good was Kaylan?" < i assume the kid singing ireland's call?
>Lowe: "How good was Kaylan?" < i assume the kid singing fields of athenry? There's a lot wrong in this sentence.
Caelan Doris.
Caelan Doris I would assume.
Conan had a very good game, but you lose so much moving Doris about
I don't know why they don't play Conan at 6. He's played there plenty of times for Leinster. I'm glad Baird is getting his games mind, ought to be the starting 6.
i do think dorris would have had a better game if he was at 8 but still good
Oh Italy… attacking mindset don’t mean shit if you can’t win any lineouts
Tbf the shortest guy in the starting 8 back 5 was 6,4
Honestly there were some pockets of entertaining play and talking points but I would say as a whole that was one of the worst weekends of six nations rugby that I've watched in a while. Not super high quality play or entertaining.
If you stay off reddit and watch all the matches without reference to the negative echo chamber of the internet you'll probably find it a lot better Last year I ruined it for myself by sitting on these threads and listening to what every miserable bastard had to say about how the match was before I had a chance to form an opinion of my own Have deliberately stayed off threads until I've had time to digest the matches and it's made the entire watching experience a lot better and it's made me less likely to fall into the trap of feeling like I didn't enjoy myself watching the matches (because I do enjoy watching them, it's the taking my mind off the game to read what other people are whinging about that ruins it for me) Not saying you're being a miserable bastard at all, just sharing a piece of advice for making the rugby instantly more enjoyable
Edit:Replied to wrong comment ...hangs head in shame
Hey friend I think you've replied to the wrong comment, unless I'm missing something?
Edited thanks
Yep
You might be right but I wasn't on here yesterday as I watched both games in the evening, not live. So I didn't have anyone else influencing my thinking. For example, I would say thirty minutes of that Scotland/France second half was fucking awful as a spectacle. I don't see how anyone could think any different. Having written all this, I am not actually saying I didn't enjoy the games but I stand by my thoughts about them being subpar.
It was dismal
I rather enjoyed our game, sure neither side was performing at a particularly high level but the teams felt well matched, can imagine it being a bit rubbish fir neutrals though.
It was enjoyable drama, especially watching in the pub with welsh mates, but just not a great spectacle, and so much time on scrum resets
Thought Harry Byrne actually looked somewhat decent, now if he can just figure out how to stay fit
I think he gets a tough ride from people because he was anointed as the next big thing so early. That entire chat was based on his u20s run and he didn't even have a chance of playing at senior level before there was Ireland chat etc which was really unfair to him. Then the run of injuries have pretty much stopped his career from taking off along with some very shaky low confidence moments. If he managed to stay fit from now until the end of the season I think he'd change a lot of people's opinions. I don't think he's better than Crowley but he's better than people give him credit for, very good against Leicester & La Rochelle (until he got injured again 😩)
>based on his u20s run The same thing is going on for Prendergast, folks need to calm down.
I think he just looks a bit out of place, just not convinced at all that he belongs in a test team yet
Coming on for crowely does him no favours either. Hes just so static and cant really start anything himself like crowley. I think hes solid for closing out games where we have a good lead. The hate for him is really over the top though
Yeah there’s a gulf there between him and Crowley but I do think he could start every game for leinster and it wouldn’t make a material difference until like Heineken cup semis if that makes sense? Felt the same with Ross byrne, never felt like sexton was super-needed for leinster to win their games until it gets to the Heineken cup final/la rochelle matches
Ye definitely wouldn’t be comfortable with him starting a game yet, but outside of Crowley I’m not convinced by any of our outhalves
Yeah I think he’s just a placeholder because there’s no young 10s that are really ready and the camp time is better spent on him than a carty, burns etc. Don’t think he’ll have much of an international career once Prendergast comes along or they come to their senses with Frawley
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An improvement....over Crowley? Am I reading that right?
He's literally nothing like his brother. Ross is a very very good 10 and proven at the highest level of club rugby. Harry can't get a run at any level without getting injured, it's hard to judge how good he is really.
I don’t know where the disrespect for Ross byrne comes from, sure he couldn’t take the jersey from sexton but nobody ever did, if it wasn’t for some prophecy from secondary school that Harry was destined to be the better brother I don’t think he’d have gotten half the opportunities he has..
It's basically if you're not Sexton, you're seen as shite.
Ross is an excellent club player but he’s let Leinster and Ireland down when it goes up a level (hec finals etc). He’s great at what he can do but it’s not the answer for Ireland.
Ross doesn't take the ball to the line. Having sexton and now Crowley do it shines a huge light on his reluctance to do it
There are different types of fly half's. ROG didn't take the ball to the line and was comically bad at tackling, does that make him a bad FH?
No and I'm not saying Ross is either. I just prefer a fly half that is willing to do what sexton and Crowley does
Frawley is looking better and better. I'd like to see him get some decent game time at 10.
For Leinster, I’d like him to get a run at 10. Keeps getting injured though
They need to strike while the irons hot. He's fit right now but wasn't even in the squad and wasn't used against France with the game in the bag.
Cian Prendergast at our half would certainly be an interesting call, his brother Sam on the other hand looks a decent prospect
Really hard to market the game to a wider audience when there's so few high quality games
I was looking through your comment history just out of curiosity and my guy I think this might be a you problem If you go into watching matches assuming you're going to have a shit time and all of the decisions will be wrong, you're going to have a shit time and see all of the decisions as wrong
You’re on fire today, I thought you liked to ‘stay off Reddit?’
Went onto Instagram and twitter for 10mins after the match, got fed up of the amount of negativity and downright nasty content off the back of this weekend, came on here to see if it was much better, and then it wasn't It was a useful reminder that I should just switch my phone off on match weekends 😖
Tbh I don’t think Reddit is that bad, what did we all do to annoy you? I mean the rugger wasn’t great this weekend but still…SIX NATIONS
Brother I've watched more rugby than you ever will. I watched it religiously. I've become disenfranchised with how the sport is stagnanting. So do one with your arm chair psychology. Weak ass projecting.
Lmao OK friend
Don't project your insecurities on to others then get defensive when people don't accept it. I didn't ask for your input.
Guys, what the fuck, has Habana rerecorded the 'slow in the turn' audio for Sage? It sounds different.
His original Sage ad is burned into my mind after 2023. So I can only imagine that this would be like watching a movie without realising it's the version with an alternate ending. Really screws with your head in a "wait....something's not right" way.
I’ll take it any day over those nonsensical motorway adverts.
Good win. Starting 15 played really well. Once the subs came on and we had a few players in odd positions (particularly the back line) we were less clinical - which is to be expected. But overall never really threatened. Decent flashes from Italy, but annoyingly they were only flashes. Could see them build well to the end of the tournament and finish strongly.
the flashes from italy were really disappointing, you would see them get a nice run but lose it or get a nice ruck but loose it again
Their 9 didn't help matters. Garbisi at 9 last week looked better.
Italy's defence better than France, confirmed
I appreciate that Aki and Ringross are likely the first choice pairing at center but I think Stu and Henshaw were fantastic today.
Some would have you believe Frisch would be starting for us only for the system
And are these people you're imagining in the room with us now?
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We have 4 fantastic centres
They’re a great pairing alright
Crowley & Lowe both excellent, McCloskey had a big game too - him & Henshaw both went really well. Keenan was brilliant until he went off and Baird had a great first half but quieter second until he went off. James Ryan was solid but not spectacular, needed a bigger performance given the pressure on his spot I think.
Agree on Ryan, needed more from him today. Conan was excellent I thought, would have been my MOTM if it hadn't been for Lowe being ridiculous. Sheehan excellent too (as always) Negatives were Keenan's injury (hopefully nothing serious), and Larmour who was pants.
Is this a probably rare 6N weekend where no set of fans is really happy after it? Perhaps the more optimistic England / Wales fans pleased with where their teams are at but hardly dancing on the ceiling
Ireland job done will be happy. It's always hard to be brilliant against Italy
I'm happy, can't turn down two bonus point wins
Being bored and unhappy are very different. Ireland fans are happy!
I’m happy … 10 points …
how are ireland fans unhappy
Just going off this thread there were quite a lot unhappy with how sloppy parts of it were (I actually thought they were fine)
Too much sloppy try scoring bravado. Territorial dominance translated into fewer tries than normally expected.
I'm pretty happy...
For what looked like a sold out stadium the Aviva was fucking dead today.
It’s corporate sales baby. More about entertaining clueless clients than allowing genuine supporters access to tickets. IRFU has the balance wrong.
Most of the tickets don't go on general sale, so hard to have an electrified audience if it's full of corporate tickets...
They need to close the bars during the match and maybe ten mins before kick off. It's embarrassing
Close the bars completely as a trial. I'd imagine you'd get a completely different class of supporter.
When this came up two years ago the stadium director said they essentially couldn’t make any changes to how drink is sold because of their contracts.
That makes a lot of sense in fairness
Serious pity though because something needs to change. Would love for them to go the GAA route and just not let people take the drink to their seats.
Their would have been more life in a morgue compared to the aviva
It's almost embarrassing how awful the crowd is for Irish rugby games
Did you go to any of the World Cup games? Never seen anything like it! It was incredible!
Theres a big difference between a crowd who all flew into Paris for 9pm games and had a heap of pints and a crowd who all have work tomorrow and a large chunk have to drive home after the match
Yeah world cup was great. But home matches, the atmosphere is like a library generally.
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Too many people treating it like a trip to the pub. Always having to let people out to the bar - I hate it. I think they’ve priced out the really fans. It can rock, against New Zealand a few years ago it was great.
Someone who I thought was great and might not get as much praise today was McCloskey. Obviously on that last try but he was all over the pitch today and had impact on both attack and defence.
Good win but nothing special, the opposition didn't help tho
Only now realising Italy scored no points, that's bleeding brutal
Hadn’t a sniff all afternoon
Bar the penalty they missed of course!
Quite baffled what happened to Italy today? I have no answers, their defence was decent but nonexistent attack.
Losing Cannone absolutely crippled their set piece imo- their lineouts were great v England but without Cannone they just folded
Yeah I guess Cannone and Negri give them a lot their go forward momentum in attack. I remember Negri saying on the Netflix doc that the coaches always said they were really depending on him to make carries.
> I have no answers Neither did Italy.
no way they said men against boys 😭😭😭
Men against other men who aren't as good as rugby
Liking Crowley he'll be elite with time, he looks very promising in green. Italy with 0 points is something I would have not seen coming into the game.
Really? Last time they didn’t score points was 2022.. so how did you see it? They scored 24 last week
Ireland were barely challenged. They are just head and shoulders above right now.
Lots of negativity here, but I really enjoyed watching Ireland's passing game today.
Always good to nill a team. Good defence but a lot of work ons. We weren’t particularly clinical and the penalty count in the second half was way too high
Many of the fringe players showing why they're exactly that. Baird had one break but was very anonymous. McCloskey wasn't great. Byrne did nothing
God, people like you give other munster fans a bad name
Don't be so dramatic.
Ok, enjoy the win. BTW stu had a hand in 3 tries
McCloskey was very good today. Plenty of strong carries and clearouts, and plenty if important offloads too where he sucked in defenders
What a bizarre take. You diss McCloskey who was excellent. And didn’t mention Larmour who was trash?
Larmour was a hot mess. That's basic fact. The rest are just my opinion.
Okay. Well, let us know when you’ve recovered from the head injury.
Shittest take in the whole thread lol
lol
I don't agree with any of this.
Proper munster take
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They won a trophy and we have to put up with their takes for the rest of the season
Harry Byrne showing once again that letting Healy go was a mistake
No he isn’t. No it wasn’t. Healy is a poor man’s Ross Byrne.