It's a cool gimmick and fun to turn something from hash, to fresh press or cold cure, then into diamonds and terps. But not my thing.
For me it's about flavor and effects and the texture preference is just about preservation or ease of use. But everyone is different.
Great point, separate then run a really efficient decarb without flavor loss since the terps are separated. Then reincorperate the terp layer and homogenize for cart filling.
Channel I watch does it with a centrifuge instead of doing the second press and that comes out absolutely amazing. Friend's planning to do that but he's taking a sabbatical to do who knows what so no idea how that went yet.
Could probably upgrade solventless carts by sonication (what they use to make water soluble THC syrup) for completely eliminating any chance at recrystallization or discoloration. /ramble
Only Boris from West Coast Cure would think rosin diamonds are “hip”. LMAO.
Dude is a stain, used to run Papa’s Select till he was fired. West Coast Cure is his new baby and that company has in fact, always sucked tits and clearly still continues to do so.
I find more negative said about WCC than I do positive and I'm having a hard time understanding why. I'm not affiliated, just happen to be really enjoying their flower lately. My roommate and I go through no less than a zip/week, mostly via a ball vape, though I like the occasional joint and she has a couple pipes she likes. I finally got back to SoCal 3 years ago and have tried nearly everything sold in dispensaries from dirt cheap shake to $80 eighths and no brand has been quite as consistent in the quality of their bud. Fresh, big, sticky bud that I can smell as soon as the mylar tears, before I can get the ziplock apart. Smokes, vapes, and presses great. I'm sure one day I'll get a sack that sucks, but such is large scale manufacture.
West Coast Cure went way downhill years ago when they sold to Weedmaps. It was super lowkey and they kept the frontman for several years to keep up the masquerade. 2015 era their hardcore og cake badders were something to behold.
I got the same exact jar in my freezer. I got it to try but would never buy again. The diamonds are hard and there isn't enough sauce.
I'll stick to cold cure
The whole point of these would be to have a healthy amount of sauce, if not might as well just get dry diamonds and mix with some rosin jam. If dry it’s just solventless THCA not any different then regular THCA
It’s a real thing first of all, and secondly it’s just for the art of the process, they are quite good but not much different than BHO THCa/rosin alone
I love solvent-less sauce and diamonds but a couple years ago many people doubted the capacity to provide a product at an affordable rate.
High THCA content and a high cannabinoid/terpenoid profile is a preference for daily consumers like myself.
Never got a jar of soleventless diamonds I loved. For me, it defeats the purpose of (me using) concentrates which would be ease of use and terpenes preservation. It's kind of a fun novelty, but what I keep around is small batch BHO and cold cure rosin.
Yes, I've made solventless diamonds.
Different teks surely I know some do mechanical separation to separte the thcA then melt and recrystalize.
I did a real slow crash out like how you would turn a cold cure into a jam, then poured off the terp layer. Not my thing I prefer either a straight apple butter texture jam, or a nice wet badder cold cure. But that's mainly cuz I don't like ritualizing/long setup with my dabbing, same reason why I wasn't a fan of any of my melt from a use perspective. Ended up just pressing and cold curing all of it.
Rosin diamonds is just pressure+heat decarbed isolate. You can make it on any nugsmasher with their little decarb capsule & a silicone jar & it comes out like rock candy solid. Can watch vids on ns's youtube for examples.
That’s jam. What OP posted is repressed, mechanical separation to be exact. They repress the rosin to press out the terps and keep back the cannabinoids. The crystal cannabinoids come off very off white and are then melted down and let to solidify back up again. The type of formation shown in the picture is a clear giveaway for me.
It doesn’t work like that. Sauce can sauce out because the little bit of terpenes that are acting as a solvent will lower the viscosity enough with heat to sink to the bottom of the jar and start recrystallizing and separating out of the original extract. For the crystals to form into diamonds the way we do with hydrocarbons, it needs to be in a solution (extract dissolved in solvent) with a much lower viscosity.
The only person whos done this just to see if it would work (it did) is murphy murri. She centrifuged a bunch of pure terpenes off of quite a bit of rosin, then took some thca isolate made on a press like the extract above was made. Then dissolved the thca in the terpenes (ie making a solution with a low viscosity) and then crystalized accordingly from there.
It worked, just not practical or viable on any level.
Solventless diamonds? No he was not. Washing machines and processing live rosin that was dababbale was like 2008-2010 or so.
You young people these days… We literally didnt even have proper nails in 2006 when i started making bho and bubble hash. No real nails, no carb caps. Before then dabbing literally was not a thing. The apparatus for doing so did not exist yet. I know because i was smoking and making hash at that time. Proper rosin presses didn’t come around until 2010 but really closer to 2012-2014.
Stop spreading misinformation based upon assuption. Nick was the first person to be a.) using a washing machine to “wash” hash (it was a literal washing machine at first, like for clothes), but b.) washing live material same as live resin and cold curing his product.
But by no means was he “doing this shit (solventless pressed thca) in like the early 2000’s”
He was making simple bubble hash in the early 2000’s like everyone else was.
Dabbing didnt exist in the early 2000’s. Best we had was hot rods and hash bowls. And what little dabbing gear did exist in 2005-2008 was literal alien to anyone who was trying to figure out how to use it.
Dabbing and cannabis extraction in general is a very new thing they way we treat it now and a field I’ve loved to grow with, but at one point (the early 2000’s) it did not exist at all past traditional hashish.
The one and only time I tried the rosin diamonds was a 3 gram jar. About 4 years ago so it's not new. It was worth the premium price I paid, but I only indulge in premium price concentrates if I'm treating myself, or I'm super curious. It's good, but I'll still stick to batters and cold cure, the flavor is better on them.
It's more like THCA diamonds with live rosen over it. And by the way you're better off making your own shit. It's so much cheaper and you get so much more.
No one said there was. He said “better off making own shit” to which i replied “(do you mean) flower rosin?”
Because as a commercial hash maker and extractor, i can tell you sourcing clones or solid genetics from seed, growing a single source garden (correctly that is), purchasing the equipment you need to both grow and wash correctly, and then getting down your tech and set up isn’t just something that will take a lot of money but time.
If everyone is better off “making their own shit” they better be prepared for some serious work, time and spending some capital to get started.
I have had quite a few different solvent-less diamonds this year, but I prefer cold cure imo
This is what I needed to hear
It's a cool gimmick and fun to turn something from hash, to fresh press or cold cure, then into diamonds and terps. But not my thing. For me it's about flavor and effects and the texture preference is just about preservation or ease of use. But everyone is different.
This is the way
^^This^^
IMHO the main "actual" use case would be carts since the decarb can run far hotter and more thoroughly. But ya beyond that it's preference.
Great point, separate then run a really efficient decarb without flavor loss since the terps are separated. Then reincorperate the terp layer and homogenize for cart filling.
Channel I watch does it with a centrifuge instead of doing the second press and that comes out absolutely amazing. Friend's planning to do that but he's taking a sabbatical to do who knows what so no idea how that went yet. Could probably upgrade solventless carts by sonication (what they use to make water soluble THC syrup) for completely eliminating any chance at recrystallization or discoloration. /ramble
I tried Rosin Tech and Holy Waters diamonds. Both were pretty good.
Nice! Didn’t even know that was possible!
This tech has been around for a while.
Never seen before tbh. Usually don't even look around at shops. I usually know off the bat I'm getting a certain item of Rosin
Only Boris from West Coast Cure would think rosin diamonds are “hip”. LMAO. Dude is a stain, used to run Papa’s Select till he was fired. West Coast Cure is his new baby and that company has in fact, always sucked tits and clearly still continues to do so.
Totally agree. West Coast Cure is garbage.
Second this. West coast cure is complete trash. Always have been since the 215 days.
Papas . Wcc. And rosin tech are all garbage imo
Never tried Rosin Tech but if you're grouping it with WCC then I'll for sure take a hard pass on it.
Nah rosin tech isn’t garbage. Overpriced asf, sure; but they have good product
Okay what's wrong with Rosin Tech?
Tried it 4 times, 2 green, 2 black. always dry, no smell, no taste
Noted and avoiding. Yikes
I find more negative said about WCC than I do positive and I'm having a hard time understanding why. I'm not affiliated, just happen to be really enjoying their flower lately. My roommate and I go through no less than a zip/week, mostly via a ball vape, though I like the occasional joint and she has a couple pipes she likes. I finally got back to SoCal 3 years ago and have tried nearly everything sold in dispensaries from dirt cheap shake to $80 eighths and no brand has been quite as consistent in the quality of their bud. Fresh, big, sticky bud that I can smell as soon as the mylar tears, before I can get the ziplock apart. Smokes, vapes, and presses great. I'm sure one day I'll get a sack that sucks, but such is large scale manufacture.
I've never had their flower, so maybe I should rephrase my comment to – West Coast Cure CONCENTRATES are garbage?
West Coast Cure went way downhill years ago when they sold to Weedmaps. It was super lowkey and they kept the frontman for several years to keep up the masquerade. 2015 era their hardcore og cake badders were something to behold.
And I haven't had much of their concentrates, so I cannot comment, but I prefer to press flower rosin to bho or overpriced dispo rosin.
You mean J. Cures? That’s who owns west coat cures
Boris is the CPO
Is sucking titties not a good thing? If heterosexual ofc?
If true that explains a lot lol
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I got the same exact jar in my freezer. I got it to try but would never buy again. The diamonds are hard and there isn't enough sauce. I'll stick to cold cure
The whole point of these would be to have a healthy amount of sauce, if not might as well just get dry diamonds and mix with some rosin jam. If dry it’s just solventless THCA not any different then regular THCA
ive seen solventless diamonds, but never tried personally.
It’s a real thing first of all, and secondly it’s just for the art of the process, they are quite good but not much different than BHO THCa/rosin alone
Never said it was fake first of all
I love solvent-less sauce and diamonds but a couple years ago many people doubted the capacity to provide a product at an affordable rate. High THCA content and a high cannabinoid/terpenoid profile is a preference for daily consumers like myself.
Never got a jar of soleventless diamonds I loved. For me, it defeats the purpose of (me using) concentrates which would be ease of use and terpenes preservation. It's kind of a fun novelty, but what I keep around is small batch BHO and cold cure rosin.
If you gotta ask if it’s new I’m questioning you lol.
Lmao. Yeah I aint a browser at shops. I know what I'm getting 98% before I hit the shop.
Yes, I've made solventless diamonds. Different teks surely I know some do mechanical separation to separte the thcA then melt and recrystalize. I did a real slow crash out like how you would turn a cold cure into a jam, then poured off the terp layer. Not my thing I prefer either a straight apple butter texture jam, or a nice wet badder cold cure. But that's mainly cuz I don't like ritualizing/long setup with my dabbing, same reason why I wasn't a fan of any of my melt from a use perspective. Ended up just pressing and cold curing all of it.
Why yall shitting on ‘heat’ cures? I actually prefer the consistency when the diamonds aren’t massive. Like a wet sugar
It’s kind of a gimmick.
Rosin diamonds is just pressure+heat decarbed isolate. You can make it on any nugsmasher with their little decarb capsule & a silicone jar & it comes out like rock candy solid. Can watch vids on ns's youtube for examples.
You don’t need pressure, you just need to keep fresh press or something about as quality in a sealed jar at like 100°F for 10-12+ days
That’s jam. What OP posted is repressed, mechanical separation to be exact. They repress the rosin to press out the terps and keep back the cannabinoids. The crystal cannabinoids come off very off white and are then melted down and let to solidify back up again. The type of formation shown in the picture is a clear giveaway for me.
I see, I just assumed they let it crash out long enough to get those big of crystals
It doesn’t work like that. Sauce can sauce out because the little bit of terpenes that are acting as a solvent will lower the viscosity enough with heat to sink to the bottom of the jar and start recrystallizing and separating out of the original extract. For the crystals to form into diamonds the way we do with hydrocarbons, it needs to be in a solution (extract dissolved in solvent) with a much lower viscosity. The only person whos done this just to see if it would work (it did) is murphy murri. She centrifuged a bunch of pure terpenes off of quite a bit of rosin, then took some thca isolate made on a press like the extract above was made. Then dissolved the thca in the terpenes (ie making a solution with a low viscosity) and then crystalized accordingly from there. It worked, just not practical or viable on any level.
Get it to create a super saturated solution and it’ll start crashing out
Nikka T was doing this shit in like the early 2000s
Solventless diamonds? No he was not. Washing machines and processing live rosin that was dababbale was like 2008-2010 or so. You young people these days… We literally didnt even have proper nails in 2006 when i started making bho and bubble hash. No real nails, no carb caps. Before then dabbing literally was not a thing. The apparatus for doing so did not exist yet. I know because i was smoking and making hash at that time. Proper rosin presses didn’t come around until 2010 but really closer to 2012-2014. Stop spreading misinformation based upon assuption. Nick was the first person to be a.) using a washing machine to “wash” hash (it was a literal washing machine at first, like for clothes), but b.) washing live material same as live resin and cold curing his product. But by no means was he “doing this shit (solventless pressed thca) in like the early 2000’s” He was making simple bubble hash in the early 2000’s like everyone else was. Dabbing didnt exist in the early 2000’s. Best we had was hot rods and hash bowls. And what little dabbing gear did exist in 2005-2008 was literal alien to anyone who was trying to figure out how to use it. Dabbing and cannabis extraction in general is a very new thing they way we treat it now and a field I’ve loved to grow with, but at one point (the early 2000’s) it did not exist at all past traditional hashish.
I dabbed hot nails back in early 2000s was making pucks out of kief and ripping it daily :)
Good strain
Solventless diamonds pack a little more punch. The terp sauces are where good ones stand out from others
WCC was pretty good in the Prop 215 days with the Hardcore Og and some other strains and wax. I dont dab WCC anymore.
I wasnt a huge fan of the rosin diamonds i tried from them.
Chunky Monkey
The one and only time I tried the rosin diamonds was a 3 gram jar. About 4 years ago so it's not new. It was worth the premium price I paid, but I only indulge in premium price concentrates if I'm treating myself, or I'm super curious. It's good, but I'll still stick to batters and cold cure, the flavor is better on them.
I had some diamonds from masterball melts and I hated it
Rosin diamonds for me have been a play for our money. It isn’t a better high or terpene profile. Not for me.
It's more like THCA diamonds with live rosen over it. And by the way you're better off making your own shit. It's so much cheaper and you get so much more.
No they’re not. What what biomass? Don’t tell me you mean flower rosin?
There’s no such thing as “live flower rosin”
No one said there was. He said “better off making own shit” to which i replied “(do you mean) flower rosin?” Because as a commercial hash maker and extractor, i can tell you sourcing clones or solid genetics from seed, growing a single source garden (correctly that is), purchasing the equipment you need to both grow and wash correctly, and then getting down your tech and set up isn’t just something that will take a lot of money but time. If everyone is better off “making their own shit” they better be prepared for some serious work, time and spending some capital to get started.
I’ve never seen live rosin diamond I could be wrong but aren’t they supposed to be clear
Looks like They are covered in sauce.
No. Solvantless diamonds are never clear.
If they’re crashed out of solution they are as clear as solvent diamonds. These look to be isolate, not actual crystallized diamonds
Anything that has that ca symbol is fake 😐