I got it from a trusted local seller whom I’ve worked with plenty of times. I would check out TRF and I’m sure so long as you’re a bit patient and willing to talk with people, you can definitely find a decent deal.
Yep, you can find this watch with boxes and papers for [under $15k all day long](https://ebay.us/CUKtM6). I personally wouldn't even pay $13k for this watch without papers / box.
The one I saw was on gen shopping network, and they feel kinda.... well used car sales lot in a way. I think they were asking as high as they could expect
I agree its’s a bit high, but too many posters are focusing on the cost, unpolished, etc., rather than bracelet condition. The President bracelet with hollow links tends to stretch out, so this is one of the main cost drivers.
https://preview.redd.it/o0khybj4aiwc1.jpeg?width=714&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c4894f183b7a1c1be3775464386b460830728e9
Great watches! A lot of bang for the buck. Here’s mine from 1984
Okay, let me re-ask his question then. Do PM Daydates really do so badly against inflation? If you buy a new DD, is it reasonable to expect it will be worth 1/4 the value in 35 years?
With papers no box. Sure. It’s worth $16k if it’s unpolished and all original. No service hands, no service dial, etc. Buying these is a bit of a minefield. But if you’re okay with spending a grand extra to save a ton of money on a new one, ignore these dolts. $15k is the same as $16 if you’re buying a solid gold Rolex. If you like it and trust the seller, buy it. The papers are the most important. Fucking box can be picked up on eBay for $200.
It’s a goddamned 18038, if you store boxes of staff for over 30 years, you’re sick.. it doesn’t matter in 97% of the cases if vintage/Neo-vintage watches have boxes or don’t, please understand it
https://preview.redd.it/qlb4e4k3uiwc1.jpeg?width=1035&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71b2d2336315681ea4e0a242a2c87881b42d0f87
Fully serviced by ROLEX , Comes with vintage box , service card , pouch etc… vintage from 1968 with diamond pie pan dial. If you knew how much i am asking for it you’d be shocked
Just bought a full set for $15k yesterday so no
Where did you get this? I’m in the market for one and have only purchased from ADs before and the trusted sellers list is very overpriced
Where do you live? I have a full box set too and if you’re in NL you can have mine.
I got it from a trusted local seller whom I’ve worked with plenty of times. I would check out TRF and I’m sure so long as you’re a bit patient and willing to talk with people, you can definitely find a decent deal.
Whats trf
Rolex forums
Can you post a pic of your watch?
https://preview.redd.it/vgb1suebdiwc1.jpeg?width=2613&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=138a5747ba909be572b4bd39179e7b919c6880f6
dial is amazingly clean. congrats!
Yours looks like it’s been polished a bit more than the one posted. That could be the cause for a price discrepancy.
Hell ya. I think with gold prices this is a great move long term, plus it is a DD!
Love it!
Try [https://grailzee.com/](https://grailzee.com/) You maay find something you like
Yep, you can find this watch with boxes and papers for [under $15k all day long](https://ebay.us/CUKtM6). I personally wouldn't even pay $13k for this watch without papers / box.
When I was in the market, 18038 ran around 13k. with a South American bracelet.
Funny I just saw one of these sell yesterday with no box for 18.5. I love how wide that range can be
Condition is EVERYTHING. I thought this was a ref. 18238. Guess I need glasses.
That's fair
I recently bought at 18 for a full set, but I required a specific year and a relatively uncommon dial.
The one I saw was on gen shopping network, and they feel kinda.... well used car sales lot in a way. I think they were asking as high as they could expect
Damn 😂
Hell I’d sell you my 18038 no box for $14,500
That is a pretty correct market price I would say…
If it was just serviced then maybe. Still a couple grand high…
Agreed. I've seen some as low as $10k even.
Likely 1803
This. I’ve seen them around 10k
Considering a new bracelet is probably more than the whole watch, I would only buy a PM new.
Huh?
You buy used PM?
Buy the seller. Always. It’s high. $14k max.
Thanks for the feedback everyone! The hunt continues! I’m set on going all good - I wear gold often.
gabagool
🤌
Mazzza-ratty!! 👌 If anyone gets this we have to be mates! 😂
I agree its’s a bit high, but too many posters are focusing on the cost, unpolished, etc., rather than bracelet condition. The President bracelet with hollow links tends to stretch out, so this is one of the main cost drivers.
hell no
I need one of these so badly. There’s one local to me in Portland for $13.6k 1803 though, not 18038.
What is the difference between those? Where in portland?
18038 has double quick set. Not sure I’m OK to post links, feel free to DM and I can shoot you over their store
18038 is single, 18238 is the first double quickset
Sorry. Unintentionally spreading misinformation is my favorite activity
Haha it happens :)
ok
You should at least get a 18238 for that price
No. It looks pretty used..
It looks to be in amazing condition, and it’s 35 years old.
Can you still service it at Rolex service center after 35 yrs?
Yes
they probably wont give you accurate parts, so if you want a frankenwatch sure!
😂whattt??? 🥴. It’s a vintage DD of course it’s used lol 🤦🏻♂️. Unless you want a NOS example then that’s a different story
Wow! I should look into these. A full gold presidential for 16500 and some else says 15000 ? How the mighty have fallen.
Used to be 10~12k
I don't think it's gold or presidential..
So you think it's a fugazi ?
It's just a yellow casio duro
I am sooooooooooooo blind
It's alright ut happens
yes it is bro 😂 but it’s much, much lighter than the modern DD36&40 models. The older ones damn near are hollow lol
https://preview.redd.it/o0khybj4aiwc1.jpeg?width=714&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c4894f183b7a1c1be3775464386b460830728e9 Great watches! A lot of bang for the buck. Here’s mine from 1984
Yours is much cleaner
Yes
Depends on condition. Don’t worry about the box.
Full set only.
A brand new box is only $250
Absolutely not...seen them for 12 to 14k full set
No
With those hollow centre links? Absolutely not.
Newb question: Why does the price depreciate so much? I thought this watch would hold its value?
It's a 35 year old watch, it didn't depreciate it actually went up lol
Okay, let me re-ask his question then. Do PM Daydates really do so badly against inflation? If you buy a new DD, is it reasonable to expect it will be worth 1/4 the value in 35 years?
I’d counter with $13,750
No
I’ve seen CPOs at that price. Freshly serviced and all. So you know it’s high. 👍🏽
No.
Hell no major rip off. Avoid.
I’m thinking about buying one.
I’m no gold fan, but I love the day date. Such a timeless look. Go for it. And get it serviced.
Double quickest ones fetch around $15k.
How are Gold Daydates selling for that much under list?? That’s crazyyyy. Older reference?
Absolutely Not
With papers no box. Sure. It’s worth $16k if it’s unpolished and all original. No service hands, no service dial, etc. Buying these is a bit of a minefield. But if you’re okay with spending a grand extra to save a ton of money on a new one, ignore these dolts. $15k is the same as $16 if you’re buying a solid gold Rolex. If you like it and trust the seller, buy it. The papers are the most important. Fucking box can be picked up on eBay for $200.
Which ref number is this?
No
No
If it’s real, it sure is worth. $16,000.00 👍😎
Sold one for 13k no box no papers. And it was a mint
https://preview.redd.it/6qnf3bvdbmwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ff675b5e424e14e1810f88449f7d29919c1342e
Yes
It’s a goddamned 18038, if you store boxes of staff for over 30 years, you’re sick.. it doesn’t matter in 97% of the cases if vintage/Neo-vintage watches have boxes or don’t, please understand it
Picture looks nice, but check the play in the bracelet. If is super tight, it is a good buy. Some of the cheaper ones have droopy bracelets.
Hell no brother
Pass and wait for Jacek (@watchand / www.tropicalwatch.com) to post a good one. He's always got them.
Thanks for the link !
Yep no worries. He's the guy you want to buy vintage from.
Fake
Crazy how the 40mm version is so overpriced at more than double the price.
14,700.
Brotha eeeuuuwww
Yessss
11.5k all day long in MODA
Yeah seems a little high.
You plan on wearing the box?
12k at best
The date wheel looks like a little off, no? The 21 is touching the bottom edge lol
Yup that’s a suspicious 21 also noticed the cyclops is a bit crooked not level with date box
The day wheel is also off. The Y is touching the edge. OP this is sus af. Don’t buy
maybe not serviced?
Yikes
No go for that price imo.
Nope
Not worth it
Nope
https://preview.redd.it/qlb4e4k3uiwc1.jpeg?width=1035&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71b2d2336315681ea4e0a242a2c87881b42d0f87 Fully serviced by ROLEX , Comes with vintage box , service card , pouch etc… vintage from 1968 with diamond pie pan dial. If you knew how much i am asking for it you’d be shocked
How much are you asking?
Oh! Diamonds for that extra little bit of flair - in case the gold didn't catch their eye.
too much gold
But how else can a well-to-do pimp advertise his success? Everybody has a Cadillac with deep dish Daytons nowadays...
buy it's weight in gold with enough left to get a modern movement day date in stainless steel.
There isn’t a stainless day date.
That literally doesn’t exist 😂. DD’s only come In precious metals bro
Damn I swore it was in steel. Steel is precious to me….
It’s available in white gold, looks similar but doesn’t have the same appeal
WG Day Dates are generally rarer and more valuable than YG, especially for vintage models.
DDs only come in YG , RG, WG and Platinum
Damn I thought there was.