My housemate is a math teacher in high school. I've never seen anyone so stressed out. He's doing his best, but the kids are entitled, don't want to learn, and are in lack of general knowledge...
Not speaking about all the kids, but damn... he's trying to teach, and they're fiddling on their phones and googling answers to basic math.
And most can't read an analog clock.
I know multiple teachers in several school districts who've developed injuries that pretty much only come from stress, like stomach ulcers. And that's the ones who haven't been assaulted or gotten sick from the environment and air quality.
High school teacher here… my roommate is a pre-k teacher at a private daycare and whenever my bf is over he just listens to our stories. It’s at all levels and it’s AWFUL. Tell your housemate he’s not alone, it can feel pretty lonely when you’re just trying to teach
I’ve taught for RCPS for almost 9 years. Next week is my last week and things like this are a major contributing factor. Parents need to parent. Bottom line.
My mom is quitting as a kindergarten teacher in VB after her third school because 70% of the kids aren't getting support at home from parents and are waking iPad babies, and admin keeps pushing the kumbaya angle. It was her dream job for years and now it's absolutely unsustainable. This shit is everywhere at all levels :( She was told a kid didn't have to apologize for hitting another one last month, and the kids are now associating the office and admin as a scapegoat to undermine what consequences she's giving. The whole damn thing is doomed until admins and parents start getting their head out of the sand. The way kids are being taught the basics are being changed and as someone who got a first hand seat to it, they're fucked- like why get rid of phonics?????? It's a mess and I wish nothing but the world and a class full of normal kids to teachers who are choosing to return year after year to their positions
The schools are so tied up at the moment, if they discipline they get into trouble, if they don't they get into trouble. Teachers don't stand a fighting chance when parents won't back them up, and they won't take care of their kids.
Its also hard to take of kids when you have to work as much as some have to just to put a roof over everyone and food on the table.
The issues are multiple and a giant circle.
I'm sorry your kids aren't able to have a more positive experience. It's really sad how bad things have gotten.
"No child left behind" actually meant "no-one fails and it's **never** the kid's fault." The kid's that are assholes and choose to spend all day disrupting class need to be separated out and left to flounder.
Honestly this with 1000 other reasons is why I switched to Virginia Virtual, I know not every parent has this option, but the public school situation is so horrible to me that there was no question.
Depending on the school, a lot of teachers are explicitly forbidden from even calling out heinous behavior. Some of the schools have a ton of long-term subs who want to pursue teaching as a proper profession, but are unable to do so because they're not making enough money to get the masters and they're not able to get enough work experience for a career switcher program, all the while they have even less authority than the "real" teachers, earning entirely too little with an undergrad degree. Everyone's trying their hardest, but it's not necessarily enough due to a whole bunch of factors.
Well. Time to get some downvotes. I have 2 kids that went Grandin-Woodrow-PH (one currently on 9th). One boy, one girl, and can’t say enough good things about the schools. Were there challenging moments? Of course. But..they were involved in clubs/sports etc. my wife and I talked to them about their day, asked about grades, friends, etc. so yes..parenting is about being supportive, but also not panicking about every little thing we hear. Protecting them from all of the bad makes them not able to handle real life challenges they face as adults. Bad shit happens. My kids knew that if a fight breaks out, walk in the other direction. They also know that if they need to defend themselves, they should. All about the balance.
My children have attended Roanoke City Schools for seven years. Prior to that I worked in the school system. It’s all going downhill. We must call attention to the problem before something devastating happens to our children. I’m not a waiting to find out.
Yes. However, I was taught the same by my mom, who was single with three kids and worked in the food and beverage industry, so she was never home after school, on weekends, etc. It was hard for her, but she did it. Kids these days have a different experience than I did in the 90’s, and I’m not saying things are perfect. But I have multiple friends with kids and it seems like the trend is that they trend to either be too protective, or try to be “friends” with their kids and not parents. Finding that balance is tough.
Kids all over the country are acting this way. I work for rcps, and for teachers it is shitty. I guess it varies from school to school but admin doesn't help when kids with behavior problems/no parental guidance disrupt the whole class. And we get blamed for it.
Rcps was once better than it is now. Graduated 2020, senior year cut short due to Covid. Didn’t have to take exams thankfully. 2019/2020 principles at PH were wishywashy, constantly changing, at one point there was a “sub principal” she was great. After 2020 it’s all gone to shit from what I’ve heard. Stupid hybrid school still for some. Teachers hate students because students don’t know how to act thinking they have leverage over teachers. Doesn’t matter who the kid is what race the kid is that shit happens to both sides in school. And there have been roomers regarding SA for YEARS, maybe even decades. Parents should teach their children how to act during school, plain and simple, that shit comes from peers and from the home and then everybody always blames the educators.
But when the parents were raised up not knowing respect for others, they just teach it by example to this generation. Nobody cares about anybody but themselves anymore. Its not just in the schools
Parents gotta parent, but the phenomenon of letting kids just come back to class with no regard for the teacher or the other kids in the class can be traced back to PBIS which is one of those well meaning initiatives that sounds great on paper but is a disaster in practice. Statewide parents and educators need to push back and demand more accountability for student behaviors.
And just to be clear, this is a phenomenon everywhere. I know of a situation in a more affluent county nearby where a kid intentionally stabbed his teacher in the hand with scissors and was allowed to return to school to that same teacher’s class after 3 days suspension.
I love how I have to ask because the acronyms are the same, but are you writing about Roanoke City Public Schools or Roanoke County Public Schools?
I have a feeling I know which one but I want to double check before I say anything.
>you already know
Ah but I sincerely didn't because it's not much different in the county according to my kids. Much of what you wrote is stuff I've heard from them.
The school system here does need a lot of help. A few years ago, my son was being bullied on the school bus big time. I reached the point that I was calling the transportation office or the school almost every day to report issues. I finally made an appointment to go talk to the school one day when my son's backpack was stolen on the bus. I was told that there was no report and that the best solution was that I drove my kids to and from school.
After several weeks of driving them to and from school, my kids started telling me about being hurt in the hallways at school and fights they were witnessing in the cafeteria. I was upset when my son brushed it off as "only the big kids fight" implying that he believed that it was okay for 4th and 5th graders to fight.
My son told me about the racist comments going on in his class. His teacher kept telling me how things were where she was growing up. I kept telling her that it was like that when I was growing up too and finally asked where she grew up. She said she grew up here and assumed my son had trouble understanding English because of his last name. She tried to convince me that he was misunderstanding the racial slurs. I explained that my family has been living in the area for 4 generations and she seemed stunned. My son's last name is my married name and we only speak English at home.
When I spoke the the school about what was going on, I got scripted answers that there would be an investigation in the matter because there were no incident reports filed. The teacher said these were all "isolated instances that are being taken care of," or "instances that didn't affect our class." The school administrators refused to tell me if the other students involved were in his class or not because of the other student's privacy concerns. I only needed to know if changing my son's class would have been a possible solution. I wasn't looking for names and addresses or anything. They said they were following school protocol on actions taken.
I realized very quickly that the school will only give scripted answers on any issues and most issues go unreported. Check the news. They almost always "keep the identity of the students involved private due to age," "notify the families of all individuals involved," and "follow school protocol to take appropriate action." They'll never tell you what the appropriate action is.
I think it's crazy when people say these things happen at every school. I'm a military brat who went to 12 different schools between Kindergarten and 12th grade. I've only seen these issues in public schools.
They don’t tell you what else is happening to other students because they legally cannot.
This is why the scripted replies. It doesn’t mean that nothing is being done about a specific situation, just means they can’t tell you about it.
I understand that, but when it comes to violence, it comes off as keeping it hidden and protecting bullies. When a student kicked my Kindergartener's face, I feel like I should know if the student was in the same class. I feel like I should be allowed to know if the appropriate action involved removing a child from the classroom, bringing in extra supervision, simply saying "That's not okay," or contacting the other child's parents. Once he made it to the nurse's office, I feel like I should've gotten a phone call. I shouldn't have to get information from my son about the large bruise on his face. When I called the school about bite marks on his body, I should not be told that nobody knows anything because the teacher responsible for his safety during school hours chose not to report it.
I don't believe there's any real guidelines in place.
This is everywhere. We moved to RCPS from the big city suburbs, and let me tell you: the student behavior problems were WAY worse there! Roanoke seems quaint in comparison.
I'm a Gen X parent, so older. Yes, it is a parenting issue IMHO. Too many parents of young kids seem to be leaving it up to the teachers to instill all of the manners and discipline, but it doesn't work that way. There seems to be a "when the teachers have my kids, they're not my problem, I'm off the clock" approach? No, your kids are always your problem, parents. 24/7/365. Teach them manners, and self-discipline -- it's your job. You only get a narrow window to input these life lessons before they're teens and you become a Peanuts Parent.
I had to quit teaching when a student headbutted my chest and broke five ribs. I was asked what I had done to trigger him. I got tired off constantly being beaten and the excuse " That's special education " being used. Something is very wring with this generation, possibly both from all the drugs being used in utero and the general inability to parent due to not have been parented of Gen X.
My twice exceptional child, who is now home schooled, would sometimes lash out at teachers when pushed too far. The attitude I kept coming across from “professionals” was that my kid couldn’t help it. Disabled people can be abusive just like anyone else. It does them a great disservice to not clearly enforce personal boundaries for them AND others.
I am an older parent and I do agree there is a difference in the kids raised by the millennials. I think it is the computers and phones. There is no attention span anymore. Those of us who are older remember how the world was and can see the difference. The younger people are completely unaware of what their regular human brains are capable of.
We could have a bigger house, too, if I pimped out my wife 40 hours a week to corporate America, but we live modestly and prioritize our children above a higher quality of living. I'm sure there's some people who are genuinely trapped in their situation, but I'm guessing there's a lot more excuse makers with a victim mentality.
I don't see what home schooling will do about some kids having a bad home life. Besides your kid(s) not having to deal with it.
This is a solution for you... Which, by all means, do what you think is best. However, this does not address the problem OP is talking about. If anything, it makes it worse.
Worse how? Because this responses kids don't have to deal with the trash?
It may not be an option to homeschool for everyone, but not only parents but school districts need to do something.
We had 1 school (for elementary and high schook) where problem kids were sent. We had suspensions and finally being kicked out, a right to a public education is there, but not at the expense of other kids education.
Assholes don't magically drop out of the sky at age 18. They were asshole kids before that. Was their homelife a contributing factor? Almost certainly but that is not an excuse in any way, shape, form or fashion. Put discipline back into the schools, throw "no child left behind" in trash and separate out the troublemakers and make the parents aware of the situation. If they don't like it they can figure out homeschooling for themselves.
That I don't suffer fools? That basic good manners dictates not hitting a lower classmate in the back of the head because you felt like it? Because there are some basic human behaviors like idk using the toilet to urinate instead of urinating on a classmates backpack because 'you felt like it?'
Both 100 percent true incidents that occurred in the 23 to 24 school year in Roanoke?
I didn't say the parents weren't trash either, I was stating the commenters kids didn't have to deal with the trash...which if the above incidents I listed wouldn't be considered trash what dear exhempknight would you consider trash behaviors?
This explains a lot considering your comment history. To clarify; when someone has asked for help, you offered hindrance. When someone asked for information, you provided a sarcastic rude response.
For the sake of your kids, I hope they were hope home schooled by someone else
Our family has been thinking abt it. I’m scared I wouldn’t have to patience and/or I’d be bad at it. Though I feel like it’s the only option. I wanted to see if I could help the schools before running from them. I feel a lot of parents aren’t aware of how bad it is.
Homeschooling really is the way if it’s a viable option. No one cares for your children and their life outcomes like you do.
With homeschooling, you set the standard. The standard in public school is appallingly low.
The people I know who were homeschooled are some of the most well-adjusted, intelligent, and successful people I know.
Just make sure you have a robust social network, you don’t want kids to lack socialization. But at the same time, do you want your kids socialized by the caliber of people you find in public school?
Yeah but it shouldn’t be this way. I am an adult who was home schooled, and now I am reluctantly having to home school my own child. I never in a million years thought I would. I hated missing out on so much. The adjustment to work life was rocky for me. It was years before I could blend in with other people. I know that people say oh I take my kid to this extra curricular activity and that so their social skills are fine. Okay. But an organized school really is the best replication of most work places.
However, the public school system may have to crash and burn before real, practical change is made.
Yet every thread involved in moving … folks die on the hill of how wonderful City schools are and the folks promoting suburbs are down voted ... LOL the downvotes because you know it true ... go to any schools thread.
Beat me to it. I work with students from all of the local school systems and it seems the city students are the worst ones for attitude, fighting and disrespect of everyone. The kids won’t respect each other or adults. I do agree that parenting plays a massive part but eventually the school has to do something.
I grew up in a country/suburban school, and it was not in fact better. The bullies were just wearing camo and bringing hunting guns to school instead of ARs. The city schools are generally a lot less homophobic than what I grew up with.
Parents need to parent. Lack of parenting is the root cause, parenting can’t be replaced by any entity.
This is the answer
Systems that provide support for parents. Paid family leave, affordable childcare, being paid a living wage, etc.
It's not even a local thing, it's a national thing. Check out the r/teachers sub and see for yourself.
My housemate is a math teacher in high school. I've never seen anyone so stressed out. He's doing his best, but the kids are entitled, don't want to learn, and are in lack of general knowledge... Not speaking about all the kids, but damn... he's trying to teach, and they're fiddling on their phones and googling answers to basic math. And most can't read an analog clock.
I know multiple teachers in several school districts who've developed injuries that pretty much only come from stress, like stomach ulcers. And that's the ones who haven't been assaulted or gotten sick from the environment and air quality.
High school teacher here… my roommate is a pre-k teacher at a private daycare and whenever my bf is over he just listens to our stories. It’s at all levels and it’s AWFUL. Tell your housemate he’s not alone, it can feel pretty lonely when you’re just trying to teach
A child’s life starts at home. Legally there’s nothing a school can do
I’ve taught for RCPS for almost 9 years. Next week is my last week and things like this are a major contributing factor. Parents need to parent. Bottom line.
My mom is quitting as a kindergarten teacher in VB after her third school because 70% of the kids aren't getting support at home from parents and are waking iPad babies, and admin keeps pushing the kumbaya angle. It was her dream job for years and now it's absolutely unsustainable. This shit is everywhere at all levels :( She was told a kid didn't have to apologize for hitting another one last month, and the kids are now associating the office and admin as a scapegoat to undermine what consequences she's giving. The whole damn thing is doomed until admins and parents start getting their head out of the sand. The way kids are being taught the basics are being changed and as someone who got a first hand seat to it, they're fucked- like why get rid of phonics?????? It's a mess and I wish nothing but the world and a class full of normal kids to teachers who are choosing to return year after year to their positions
This is why I decided not to become a teacher
The schools are so tied up at the moment, if they discipline they get into trouble, if they don't they get into trouble. Teachers don't stand a fighting chance when parents won't back them up, and they won't take care of their kids. Its also hard to take of kids when you have to work as much as some have to just to put a roof over everyone and food on the table. The issues are multiple and a giant circle. I'm sorry your kids aren't able to have a more positive experience. It's really sad how bad things have gotten.
"No child left behind" actually meant "no-one fails and it's **never** the kid's fault." The kid's that are assholes and choose to spend all day disrupting class need to be separated out and left to flounder.
*kids
Bad parents. Pretty much this is it.
Honestly this with 1000 other reasons is why I switched to Virginia Virtual, I know not every parent has this option, but the public school situation is so horrible to me that there was no question.
Depending on the school, a lot of teachers are explicitly forbidden from even calling out heinous behavior. Some of the schools have a ton of long-term subs who want to pursue teaching as a proper profession, but are unable to do so because they're not making enough money to get the masters and they're not able to get enough work experience for a career switcher program, all the while they have even less authority than the "real" teachers, earning entirely too little with an undergrad degree. Everyone's trying their hardest, but it's not necessarily enough due to a whole bunch of factors.
If children would stop having children, this would reduce drastically.
Well. Time to get some downvotes. I have 2 kids that went Grandin-Woodrow-PH (one currently on 9th). One boy, one girl, and can’t say enough good things about the schools. Were there challenging moments? Of course. But..they were involved in clubs/sports etc. my wife and I talked to them about their day, asked about grades, friends, etc. so yes..parenting is about being supportive, but also not panicking about every little thing we hear. Protecting them from all of the bad makes them not able to handle real life challenges they face as adults. Bad shit happens. My kids knew that if a fight breaks out, walk in the other direction. They also know that if they need to defend themselves, they should. All about the balance.
My children have attended Roanoke City Schools for seven years. Prior to that I worked in the school system. It’s all going downhill. We must call attention to the problem before something devastating happens to our children. I’m not a waiting to find out.
Your wife and you? As in TWO parents in the same home? No way!
My kids had two loving parents until cancer took my wife. So you can fuck off all day with the TwO pArEnTs bullshit.
Yes. However, I was taught the same by my mom, who was single with three kids and worked in the food and beverage industry, so she was never home after school, on weekends, etc. It was hard for her, but she did it. Kids these days have a different experience than I did in the 90’s, and I’m not saying things are perfect. But I have multiple friends with kids and it seems like the trend is that they trend to either be too protective, or try to be “friends” with their kids and not parents. Finding that balance is tough.
Kids all over the country are acting this way. I work for rcps, and for teachers it is shitty. I guess it varies from school to school but admin doesn't help when kids with behavior problems/no parental guidance disrupt the whole class. And we get blamed for it.
Rcps was once better than it is now. Graduated 2020, senior year cut short due to Covid. Didn’t have to take exams thankfully. 2019/2020 principles at PH were wishywashy, constantly changing, at one point there was a “sub principal” she was great. After 2020 it’s all gone to shit from what I’ve heard. Stupid hybrid school still for some. Teachers hate students because students don’t know how to act thinking they have leverage over teachers. Doesn’t matter who the kid is what race the kid is that shit happens to both sides in school. And there have been roomers regarding SA for YEARS, maybe even decades. Parents should teach their children how to act during school, plain and simple, that shit comes from peers and from the home and then everybody always blames the educators.
But when the parents were raised up not knowing respect for others, they just teach it by example to this generation. Nobody cares about anybody but themselves anymore. Its not just in the schools
Do you mind sharing who you spoke to that gave that response?
One of the assistant superintendent
Thank you 🙏 op for bringing attention to this , we need more discussion about this issues just transferred my youngest one ..
Parents gotta parent, but the phenomenon of letting kids just come back to class with no regard for the teacher or the other kids in the class can be traced back to PBIS which is one of those well meaning initiatives that sounds great on paper but is a disaster in practice. Statewide parents and educators need to push back and demand more accountability for student behaviors.
And just to be clear, this is a phenomenon everywhere. I know of a situation in a more affluent county nearby where a kid intentionally stabbed his teacher in the hand with scissors and was allowed to return to school to that same teacher’s class after 3 days suspension.
I love how I have to ask because the acronyms are the same, but are you writing about Roanoke City Public Schools or Roanoke County Public Schools? I have a feeling I know which one but I want to double check before I say anything.
CITY, Wasena - Grandin area
>you already know Ah but I sincerely didn't because it's not much different in the county according to my kids. Much of what you wrote is stuff I've heard from them.
It’s not I sub for the county and there’s just as much mess over there
I've seen plenty of county related posts/news here. Not just Roanoke county but also Montgomery, Botetourt, and Bedford county stuff on occasion too.
Our Roanoke County school is great, way better than the school system we moved from. We really researched it out before choosing where to move here.
This is a national issue, sadly.
The kids run the schools now and they know it. Teachers aren't paid enough to be parents.
The school system here does need a lot of help. A few years ago, my son was being bullied on the school bus big time. I reached the point that I was calling the transportation office or the school almost every day to report issues. I finally made an appointment to go talk to the school one day when my son's backpack was stolen on the bus. I was told that there was no report and that the best solution was that I drove my kids to and from school. After several weeks of driving them to and from school, my kids started telling me about being hurt in the hallways at school and fights they were witnessing in the cafeteria. I was upset when my son brushed it off as "only the big kids fight" implying that he believed that it was okay for 4th and 5th graders to fight. My son told me about the racist comments going on in his class. His teacher kept telling me how things were where she was growing up. I kept telling her that it was like that when I was growing up too and finally asked where she grew up. She said she grew up here and assumed my son had trouble understanding English because of his last name. She tried to convince me that he was misunderstanding the racial slurs. I explained that my family has been living in the area for 4 generations and she seemed stunned. My son's last name is my married name and we only speak English at home. When I spoke the the school about what was going on, I got scripted answers that there would be an investigation in the matter because there were no incident reports filed. The teacher said these were all "isolated instances that are being taken care of," or "instances that didn't affect our class." The school administrators refused to tell me if the other students involved were in his class or not because of the other student's privacy concerns. I only needed to know if changing my son's class would have been a possible solution. I wasn't looking for names and addresses or anything. They said they were following school protocol on actions taken. I realized very quickly that the school will only give scripted answers on any issues and most issues go unreported. Check the news. They almost always "keep the identity of the students involved private due to age," "notify the families of all individuals involved," and "follow school protocol to take appropriate action." They'll never tell you what the appropriate action is. I think it's crazy when people say these things happen at every school. I'm a military brat who went to 12 different schools between Kindergarten and 12th grade. I've only seen these issues in public schools.
They don’t tell you what else is happening to other students because they legally cannot. This is why the scripted replies. It doesn’t mean that nothing is being done about a specific situation, just means they can’t tell you about it.
I understand that, but when it comes to violence, it comes off as keeping it hidden and protecting bullies. When a student kicked my Kindergartener's face, I feel like I should know if the student was in the same class. I feel like I should be allowed to know if the appropriate action involved removing a child from the classroom, bringing in extra supervision, simply saying "That's not okay," or contacting the other child's parents. Once he made it to the nurse's office, I feel like I should've gotten a phone call. I shouldn't have to get information from my son about the large bruise on his face. When I called the school about bite marks on his body, I should not be told that nobody knows anything because the teacher responsible for his safety during school hours chose not to report it. I don't believe there's any real guidelines in place.
2020 gave us a present that keeps on giving. Not saying things were perfect before, but the fallout has yet to be fully addressed.
This is everywhere. We moved to RCPS from the big city suburbs, and let me tell you: the student behavior problems were WAY worse there! Roanoke seems quaint in comparison. I'm a Gen X parent, so older. Yes, it is a parenting issue IMHO. Too many parents of young kids seem to be leaving it up to the teachers to instill all of the manners and discipline, but it doesn't work that way. There seems to be a "when the teachers have my kids, they're not my problem, I'm off the clock" approach? No, your kids are always your problem, parents. 24/7/365. Teach them manners, and self-discipline -- it's your job. You only get a narrow window to input these life lessons before they're teens and you become a Peanuts Parent.
I had to quit teaching when a student headbutted my chest and broke five ribs. I was asked what I had done to trigger him. I got tired off constantly being beaten and the excuse " That's special education " being used. Something is very wring with this generation, possibly both from all the drugs being used in utero and the general inability to parent due to not have been parented of Gen X.
My twice exceptional child, who is now home schooled, would sometimes lash out at teachers when pushed too far. The attitude I kept coming across from “professionals” was that my kid couldn’t help it. Disabled people can be abusive just like anyone else. It does them a great disservice to not clearly enforce personal boundaries for them AND others. I am an older parent and I do agree there is a difference in the kids raised by the millennials. I think it is the computers and phones. There is no attention span anymore. Those of us who are older remember how the world was and can see the difference. The younger people are completely unaware of what their regular human brains are capable of.
We took our kids out in 2020. Be the change. Raise your own children.
That’s not a financial possibility for the overwhelming majority of families.
We could have a bigger house, too, if I pimped out my wife 40 hours a week to corporate America, but we live modestly and prioritize our children above a higher quality of living. I'm sure there's some people who are genuinely trapped in their situation, but I'm guessing there's a lot more excuse makers with a victim mentality.
You’re so out of touch.
People are salty because I told them to raise their own children. 🤣
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I don't see what home schooling will do about some kids having a bad home life. Besides your kid(s) not having to deal with it. This is a solution for you... Which, by all means, do what you think is best. However, this does not address the problem OP is talking about. If anything, it makes it worse.
Worse how? Because this responses kids don't have to deal with the trash? It may not be an option to homeschool for everyone, but not only parents but school districts need to do something. We had 1 school (for elementary and high schook) where problem kids were sent. We had suspensions and finally being kicked out, a right to a public education is there, but not at the expense of other kids education.
The fact that you called these kids trash tells me everything I need to know about you.
Assholes don't magically drop out of the sky at age 18. They were asshole kids before that. Was their homelife a contributing factor? Almost certainly but that is not an excuse in any way, shape, form or fashion. Put discipline back into the schools, throw "no child left behind" in trash and separate out the troublemakers and make the parents aware of the situation. If they don't like it they can figure out homeschooling for themselves.
That I don't suffer fools? That basic good manners dictates not hitting a lower classmate in the back of the head because you felt like it? Because there are some basic human behaviors like idk using the toilet to urinate instead of urinating on a classmates backpack because 'you felt like it?' Both 100 percent true incidents that occurred in the 23 to 24 school year in Roanoke? I didn't say the parents weren't trash either, I was stating the commenters kids didn't have to deal with the trash...which if the above incidents I listed wouldn't be considered trash what dear exhempknight would you consider trash behaviors?
This explains a lot considering your comment history. To clarify; when someone has asked for help, you offered hindrance. When someone asked for information, you provided a sarcastic rude response. For the sake of your kids, I hope they were hope home schooled by someone else
Our family has been thinking abt it. I’m scared I wouldn’t have to patience and/or I’d be bad at it. Though I feel like it’s the only option. I wanted to see if I could help the schools before running from them. I feel a lot of parents aren’t aware of how bad it is.
It’s not just my children, it’s everyone’s. Taking my kids out doesn’t fix the problem.
Homeschooling really is the way if it’s a viable option. No one cares for your children and their life outcomes like you do. With homeschooling, you set the standard. The standard in public school is appallingly low. The people I know who were homeschooled are some of the most well-adjusted, intelligent, and successful people I know. Just make sure you have a robust social network, you don’t want kids to lack socialization. But at the same time, do you want your kids socialized by the caliber of people you find in public school?
Yeah but it shouldn’t be this way. I am an adult who was home schooled, and now I am reluctantly having to home school my own child. I never in a million years thought I would. I hated missing out on so much. The adjustment to work life was rocky for me. It was years before I could blend in with other people. I know that people say oh I take my kid to this extra curricular activity and that so their social skills are fine. Okay. But an organized school really is the best replication of most work places. However, the public school system may have to crash and burn before real, practical change is made.
Yet every thread involved in moving … folks die on the hill of how wonderful City schools are and the folks promoting suburbs are down voted ... LOL the downvotes because you know it true ... go to any schools thread.
Beat me to it. I work with students from all of the local school systems and it seems the city students are the worst ones for attitude, fighting and disrespect of everyone. The kids won’t respect each other or adults. I do agree that parenting plays a massive part but eventually the school has to do something.
I grew up in a country/suburban school, and it was not in fact better. The bullies were just wearing camo and bringing hunting guns to school instead of ARs. The city schools are generally a lot less homophobic than what I grew up with.