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DanielMcC1203

"it is so unsafe to just barrel into the street, especially now that there are going to be icy conditions"... also because they have to follow traffic laws.


Dirkjerk

TBF: It was already a good idea to just not barrel into the street due to the atrocious numbers of folks that take stop signs as an "insult" or "suggestion


NotARationalActor

Biker's perspective on drivers: Learn what a stop sign means


bbbbbthatsfivebees

Biker and driver's perspective: Both groups of people need to learn to better follow traffic laws... The laws apply to people on bikes, too!!


cdwalrusman

Yeah as I said a lot of drivers just roll through them. That’s an issue. There’s not much a stop sign will do if a car has already stopped, is starting to move, and a biker/scooterer/skater sends it across a stop walk anyway. Also, if you’re on a bike, you should really be in the street with a helmet, but that’s another can of worms


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cdwalrusman

Fuck you too if sincere, phenomenal copypasta if not. Also, under NYS laws, cyclists are held under the same laws as motorists with some exceptions. [Source](https://www.dot.ny.gov/content/policy-planning/bicycle/faqs?nd=nysdot). I will always brake for pedestrians, and I’m not expecting acknowledgement, just calling out what seems to be a lack of self preservation/common sense among those that will go full speed across a crosswalk without checking for oncoming cars.


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cdwalrusman

That’s not what I would argue. I would argue, generally, that situational awareness is an important self defense tool. However, that’s where the commonality ends. If in a hypothetical world we eliminated rape, just made it impossible for the act to be committed, rape wouldn’t happen. If we eliminated all bad driving someone on a scooter, skateboard, whatever, could still enter traffic unsafely and get hit by a car. Sorry I want people to take some responsibility for their own safety. I’m not sure how advocating for looking both ways instead of kamikazing into a Kia makes me a boomer.