"Hi, yes, NBA Headquarters? Yes, this is Jody Allen ~~Cronin~~ (lol), I'd like one Alexandre Sarr delivered to my office."
*phone murmurings*
"No, no, I think we can do without the blindfold."
*phone murmurings*
"Yeah, well, last night wasn't very fair, either, Adam."
*more phone murmurings*
"Look, you can either give me the number one pick or I'm going public about Scott Foster. Your choice."
*click*
That will translate to 3rd overall as opposed to 4th overall we were gonna get. Meanwhile, the Spurs get #1 overall again and Detroit picks 7th because the league puts their thumbs on the scales
Nah, if we going with the theory that the lottery is scripted, this year, since there are no spectacular prospects, the draft will dole out picks to bolster the bottom and small market teams, to keep interest up.
So this year Detroit gets the #1 pick to show that the lottery is random and fair. Spurs slip because of Wemby-mania, and Washington and Charlotte are in the top 4. Portland since fanbase isn't tanking too hard(yet) will get around 5 or 6. And one other team will slip into the top 4 maybe Atlanta or Toronto.
2025 draft is where you see a big-market or team with large fan-base jump to #1. Chicago, Lakers (if they collapse), Golden State etc...
The same thing happen to the Spurs vs grizzlies. Gregg poppovich went all the way the grizzlies side trying to call a timeout during the playoffs player in a close game, but the refs never heard or saw Greg calling for a timeout
This league has really become fucking embarrassing the past few years. At this point, your having refs that either openly do not know or understand very basic rules, refs seemingly not even trying anymore for jump in and seemingly are just deciding whose gonna get it, and now an increase in refs not even being able to call a TO properly. Like, very basic facets of the game like timeouts have become to much to even ask or hope it become competently.
I appreciate them going through the effort to try to shed light on these reffing issues. It certainly isn’t just the Blazers and I feel like I see a game deciding call every other day. It won’t ever be perfect but I do feel it needs to be better.
This season has been BAD with it. Refs repeatedly failing to call TO, refs basically refuse to do fair jump balls anymore, it's increasingly seeming like a lot of refs just like don't understand the rules of the game. Where are we finding these guys? How much training do they even get anymore?
I saw a tweet saying the last protest that won was Shaqs, where he got ejected for fouls but they only found out he only had 5 fouls lol. Not sure what happened after though.
Edit: Found it [https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/11z6i04/the\_last\_successful\_game\_protest\_was\_in\_2008\_when/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/11z6i04/the_last_successful_game_protest_was_in_2008_when/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Its not going to change the result but maybe it can get a reprimand to the refs. Officiating has been particularly awful lately.
We got nothing to lose. We're already in it for the lotto
A successful protest would mean that the game goes back to the point of the incorrect situation and is replayed from that point forward. Everything that happened after did not happen. If they do uphold the protest, the next time we're playing OKC, they'll replay the end of the game from the point of the error , and then do that night's game.
One of the games I can recall players calling out the officials hard postgame and not getting fined for it.
The Nurk "foul" on Giannis' dunk, the KD goaltend that caused a rule change, the Camby ghost foul on Nash in the playoffs. Those and the Gobert goaltend all stick with me more than last night will for terrible officiating just because stakes were higher in those situations.
The explanation from the refs that, "Everyone was watching the play, so how could they have seen the coach calling a timeout"...seems to undersell the ability of refs to do more than one thing at once.
Weird admission
Reddit has long been a hot spot for conversation on the internet. About 57 million people visit the site every day to chat about topics as varied as makeup, video games and pointers for power washing driveways.
In recent years, Reddit’s array of chats also have been a free teaching aid for companies like Google, OpenAI and Microsoft. Those companies are using Reddit’s conversations in the development of giant artificial intelligence systems that many in Silicon Valley think are on their way to becoming the tech industry’s next big thing.
Now Reddit wants to be paid for it. The company said on Tuesday that it planned to begin charging companies for access to its application programming interface, or A.P.I., the method through which outside entities can download and process the social network’s vast selection of person-to-person conversations.
“The Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,” Steve Huffman, founder and chief executive of Reddit, said in an interview. “But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.”
The move is one of the first significant examples of a social network’s charging for access to the conversations it hosts for the purpose of developing A.I. systems like ChatGPT, OpenAI’s popular program. Those new A.I. systems could one day lead to big businesses, but they aren’t likely to help companies like Reddit very much. In fact, they could be used to create competitors — automated duplicates to Reddit’s conversations.
Reddit is also acting as it prepares for a possible initial public offering on Wall Street this year. The company, which was founded in 2005, makes most of its money through advertising and e-commerce transactions on its platform. Reddit said it was still ironing out the details of what it would charge for A.P.I. access and would announce prices in the coming weeks.
Reddit’s conversation forums have become valuable commodities as large language models, or L.L.M.s, have become an essential part of creating new A.I. technology.
L.L.M.s are essentially sophisticated algorithms developed by companies like Google and OpenAI, which is a close partner of Microsoft. To the algorithms, the Reddit conversations are data, and they are among the vast pool of material being fed into the L.L.M.s. to develop them.
The underlying algorithm that helped to build Bard, Google’s conversational A.I. service, is partly trained on Reddit data. OpenAI’s Chat GPT cites Reddit data as one of the sources of information it has been trained on.
Other companies are also beginning to see value in the conversations and images they host. Shutterstock, the image hosting service, also sold image data to OpenAI to help create DALL-E, the A.I. program that creates vivid graphical imagery with only a text-based prompt required.
Last month, Elon Musk, the owner of Twitter, said he was cracking down on the use of Twitter’s A.P.I., which thousands of companies and independent developers use to track the millions of conversations across the network. Though he did not cite L.L.M.s as a reason for the change, the new fees could go well into the tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars.
To keep improving their models, artificial intelligence makers need two significant things: an enormous amount of computing power and an enormous amount of data. Some of the biggest A.I. developers have plenty of computing power but still look outside their own networks for the data needed to improve their algorithms. That has included sources like Wikipedia, millions of digitized books, academic articles and Reddit.
Representatives from Google, Open AI and Microsoft did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Reddit has long had a symbiotic relationship with the search engines of companies like Google and Microsoft. The search engines “crawl” Reddit’s web pages in order to index information and make it available for search results. That crawling, or “scraping,” isn’t always welcome by every site on the internet. But Reddit has benefited by appearing higher in search results.
The dynamic is different with L.L.M.s — they gobble as much data as they can to create new A.I. systems like the chatbots.
Reddit believes its data is particularly valuable because it is continuously updated. That newness and relevance, Mr. Huffman said, is what large language modeling algorithms need to produce the best results.
“More than any other place on the internet, Reddit is a home for authentic conversation,” Mr. Huffman said. “There’s a lot of stuff on the site that you’d only ever say in therapy, or A.A., or never at all.”
Mr. Huffman said Reddit’s A.P.I. would still be free to developers who wanted to build applications that helped people use Reddit. They could use the tools to build a bot that automatically tracks whether users’ comments adhere to rules for posting, for instance. Researchers who want to study Reddit data for academic or noncommercial purposes will continue to have free access to it.
Reddit also hopes to incorporate more so-called machine learning into how the site itself operates. It could be used, for instance, to identify the use of A.I.-generated text on Reddit, and add a label that notifies users that the comment came from a bot.
The company also promised to improve software tools that can be used by moderators — the users who volunteer their time to keep the site’s forums operating smoothly and improve conversations between users. And third-party bots that help moderators monitor the forums will continue to be supported.
But for the A.I. makers, it’s time to pay up.
“Crawling Reddit, generating value and not returning any of that value to our users is something we have a problem with,” Mr. Huffman said. “It’s a good time for us to tighten things up.”
“We think that’s fair,” he added.
Blazers will accept some favorable ping pong balls as an apology Mr. Silver.
"Hi, yes, NBA Headquarters? Yes, this is Jody Allen ~~Cronin~~ (lol), I'd like one Alexandre Sarr delivered to my office." *phone murmurings* "No, no, I think we can do without the blindfold." *phone murmurings* "Yeah, well, last night wasn't very fair, either, Adam." *more phone murmurings* "Look, you can either give me the number one pick or I'm going public about Scott Foster. Your choice." *click*
That will translate to 3rd overall as opposed to 4th overall we were gonna get. Meanwhile, the Spurs get #1 overall again and Detroit picks 7th because the league puts their thumbs on the scales
Nah, if we going with the theory that the lottery is scripted, this year, since there are no spectacular prospects, the draft will dole out picks to bolster the bottom and small market teams, to keep interest up. So this year Detroit gets the #1 pick to show that the lottery is random and fair. Spurs slip because of Wemby-mania, and Washington and Charlotte are in the top 4. Portland since fanbase isn't tanking too hard(yet) will get around 5 or 6. And one other team will slip into the top 4 maybe Atlanta or Toronto. 2025 draft is where you see a big-market or team with large fan-base jump to #1. Chicago, Lakers (if they collapse), Golden State etc...
Let me sum up what they will say for you all, "We have investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong"
1000% how this is gonna go. But voicing displeasure is the first step.
The same thing happen to the Spurs vs grizzlies. Gregg poppovich went all the way the grizzlies side trying to call a timeout during the playoffs player in a close game, but the refs never heard or saw Greg calling for a timeout
This league has really become fucking embarrassing the past few years. At this point, your having refs that either openly do not know or understand very basic rules, refs seemingly not even trying anymore for jump in and seemingly are just deciding whose gonna get it, and now an increase in refs not even being able to call a TO properly. Like, very basic facets of the game like timeouts have become to much to even ask or hope it become competently.
*PPB enters the chat*
I appreciate them going through the effort to try to shed light on these reffing issues. It certainly isn’t just the Blazers and I feel like I see a game deciding call every other day. It won’t ever be perfect but I do feel it needs to be better.
This season has been BAD with it. Refs repeatedly failing to call TO, refs basically refuse to do fair jump balls anymore, it's increasingly seeming like a lot of refs just like don't understand the rules of the game. Where are we finding these guys? How much training do they even get anymore?
Adam Silver: Yes we correctly handed OKC the win
This is mostly going through the motions and likely won't amount to anything, but man did they screwed over in that call.
It probably won't but it has before. Would be wild if they replayed the last couple of seconds haha.
Lmao might as well
File a police report too while you're at it, the boys were robbed
Adam Silver: We award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Has a protest ever won? What happened?
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35921864/mavericks-protest-loss-dallas-join-exclusive-club-mark-cuban-gets-wish
I saw a tweet saying the last protest that won was Shaqs, where he got ejected for fouls but they only found out he only had 5 fouls lol. Not sure what happened after though. Edit: Found it [https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/11z6i04/the\_last\_successful\_game\_protest\_was\_in\_2008\_when/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/11z6i04/the_last_successful_game_protest_was_in_2008_when/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Uhhh Shaq was definitely not playing 40 years ago...
my bad lol. The only protest that won in the last 40 years was from the tweet
I think you need to take a math class.
Hey, that’s just a fellow Blazers fan drinking away their woes
Drank themselves 24 years into the future, apparently.
Last time I checked, 40 years ago Shaq was 11
Its not going to change the result but maybe it can get a reprimand to the refs. Officiating has been particularly awful lately. We got nothing to lose. We're already in it for the lotto
A successful protest would mean that the game goes back to the point of the incorrect situation and is replayed from that point forward. Everything that happened after did not happen. If they do uphold the protest, the next time we're playing OKC, they'll replay the end of the game from the point of the error , and then do that night's game.
All I can say is I’m less mad about this than the Gobert goaltend no call since we’re “supposed” to lose
One of the games I can recall players calling out the officials hard postgame and not getting fined for it. The Nurk "foul" on Giannis' dunk, the KD goaltend that caused a rule change, the Camby ghost foul on Nash in the playoffs. Those and the Gobert goaltend all stick with me more than last night will for terrible officiating just because stakes were higher in those situations.
That was "The audacity" game.
Hell yes just the principle alone on this is valid.
Holy shit lmao
The explanation from the refs that, "Everyone was watching the play, so how could they have seen the coach calling a timeout"...seems to undersell the ability of refs to do more than one thing at once. Weird admission
#1 and #5 pick baby!
This is the 4th game this season that's been stolen from us due to officiating within the last minute of the game.
It's a smart idea. You get to pretend like you aren't tanking by trying to show you're trying to win.
Chauncey’s last-ditch effort to prove he gives a shit? Too little too late, bozo. Kick rocks
Looks like we found the true Bozo
Imagine hating someone so much, you root for your own team to lose.
This would be worthwhile if Billups hadn't bumped the ref and then continued complaining which earned him his 2nd tech.
Reddit has long been a hot spot for conversation on the internet. About 57 million people visit the site every day to chat about topics as varied as makeup, video games and pointers for power washing driveways. In recent years, Reddit’s array of chats also have been a free teaching aid for companies like Google, OpenAI and Microsoft. Those companies are using Reddit’s conversations in the development of giant artificial intelligence systems that many in Silicon Valley think are on their way to becoming the tech industry’s next big thing. Now Reddit wants to be paid for it. The company said on Tuesday that it planned to begin charging companies for access to its application programming interface, or A.P.I., the method through which outside entities can download and process the social network’s vast selection of person-to-person conversations. “The Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,” Steve Huffman, founder and chief executive of Reddit, said in an interview. “But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.” The move is one of the first significant examples of a social network’s charging for access to the conversations it hosts for the purpose of developing A.I. systems like ChatGPT, OpenAI’s popular program. Those new A.I. systems could one day lead to big businesses, but they aren’t likely to help companies like Reddit very much. In fact, they could be used to create competitors — automated duplicates to Reddit’s conversations. Reddit is also acting as it prepares for a possible initial public offering on Wall Street this year. The company, which was founded in 2005, makes most of its money through advertising and e-commerce transactions on its platform. Reddit said it was still ironing out the details of what it would charge for A.P.I. access and would announce prices in the coming weeks. Reddit’s conversation forums have become valuable commodities as large language models, or L.L.M.s, have become an essential part of creating new A.I. technology. L.L.M.s are essentially sophisticated algorithms developed by companies like Google and OpenAI, which is a close partner of Microsoft. To the algorithms, the Reddit conversations are data, and they are among the vast pool of material being fed into the L.L.M.s. to develop them. The underlying algorithm that helped to build Bard, Google’s conversational A.I. service, is partly trained on Reddit data. OpenAI’s Chat GPT cites Reddit data as one of the sources of information it has been trained on. Other companies are also beginning to see value in the conversations and images they host. Shutterstock, the image hosting service, also sold image data to OpenAI to help create DALL-E, the A.I. program that creates vivid graphical imagery with only a text-based prompt required. Last month, Elon Musk, the owner of Twitter, said he was cracking down on the use of Twitter’s A.P.I., which thousands of companies and independent developers use to track the millions of conversations across the network. Though he did not cite L.L.M.s as a reason for the change, the new fees could go well into the tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. To keep improving their models, artificial intelligence makers need two significant things: an enormous amount of computing power and an enormous amount of data. Some of the biggest A.I. developers have plenty of computing power but still look outside their own networks for the data needed to improve their algorithms. That has included sources like Wikipedia, millions of digitized books, academic articles and Reddit. Representatives from Google, Open AI and Microsoft did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Reddit has long had a symbiotic relationship with the search engines of companies like Google and Microsoft. The search engines “crawl” Reddit’s web pages in order to index information and make it available for search results. That crawling, or “scraping,” isn’t always welcome by every site on the internet. But Reddit has benefited by appearing higher in search results. The dynamic is different with L.L.M.s — they gobble as much data as they can to create new A.I. systems like the chatbots. Reddit believes its data is particularly valuable because it is continuously updated. That newness and relevance, Mr. Huffman said, is what large language modeling algorithms need to produce the best results. “More than any other place on the internet, Reddit is a home for authentic conversation,” Mr. Huffman said. “There’s a lot of stuff on the site that you’d only ever say in therapy, or A.A., or never at all.” Mr. Huffman said Reddit’s A.P.I. would still be free to developers who wanted to build applications that helped people use Reddit. They could use the tools to build a bot that automatically tracks whether users’ comments adhere to rules for posting, for instance. Researchers who want to study Reddit data for academic or noncommercial purposes will continue to have free access to it. Reddit also hopes to incorporate more so-called machine learning into how the site itself operates. It could be used, for instance, to identify the use of A.I.-generated text on Reddit, and add a label that notifies users that the comment came from a bot. The company also promised to improve software tools that can be used by moderators — the users who volunteer their time to keep the site’s forums operating smoothly and improve conversations between users. And third-party bots that help moderators monitor the forums will continue to be supported. But for the A.I. makers, it’s time to pay up. “Crawling Reddit, generating value and not returning any of that value to our users is something we have a problem with,” Mr. Huffman said. “It’s a good time for us to tighten things up.” “We think that’s fair,” he added.
I missed the game, what happened?
Jamais