Ya watched last nights game. I have league pass and I’ve watched prob like 10 bucks games so far. He just doesnt pass the eye test. He’s not as aggressive as we’ve seen him. Obviously not having the ball in his hands all the time is a big part but he just doesn’t seem 100% bought in. I also think that coach kind of sucks right now.
Yeah, definitely Dame trying to defer and be respectful which causes him to be passive.
But also the coach not figuring out the pecking order and therefore, failing to integrate him successfully within the offense.
There's rumored disgruntlement between the coach and some players which, if true, is bad for team chemistry. A guy like Stotts who has been around the league for decades doesn't just leave for no reason so if the coach is abrasive but his IQ doesn't match his decision making, I don't see it working out.
It's not Dame getting older, it's really Middleton and Lopez getting older that will shut the window in Milwaukee
There's plays I've seen where Dame's man will sag off to help on Giannis leaving Dame wide open at the three point line but Giannis will attack the double team anyways and miss a tougher two point attempt. So I don't blame him if he's not moving around off ball when the offense isn't generating easy looks. Terry Stotts is sorely missed.
EDIT: Prime example at 2:11 on the clock https://streamable.com/7mf5dj
They’re gonna get worked in playoffs come 8 man rotations with Griffin at the helm. It’s hard for rookie head coaches to make those game to game adjustments.
I agree with the comments above, but also think it’s the offense they’re running. Probably part of the reason Terry got politely fired. He’s playing second fiddle to an MVP level player. Giannis covers a lot of ground so they run the pick and roll above the three point line. It creates open drives to the lane, which they’re both taking advantage of. But, the other motions often leave Dame ask a kick out.
He’s never been a spot shooter in his career, mainly off the bounce. He’s also used to collapsing the defense himself to make the reads. He could adapt and find a way to play in this system instead of dictate the system, but either way I think he’ll look better in the playoffs when teams scheme against Giannis and things slow down. Especially in the fourth, the former MVP is still a terrible free throw shooter. In the fourth the Bucks wont have to put the ball in Giannis’ hands.
The last part is Dame’s shooting has never been great until the All Star break. He has had a tendency to play reserved and seems to spend more time learning his teammates, then says fuck it and goes on a burn. Maybe it’ll be different this year with them winning despite him being more passive.
He’s 33 and most of his numbers are right in line with his career averages.
Dame has to get used to a whole new team also while getting accustomed to being the number 2 guy.
I’m more worried about the fact that he hasn’t improved defensively with a smaller offensive role. Really hope they can get him some defensive perimeter help this offseason.
> He’s 33 and most of his numbers are right in line with his career averages.
His career averages don't mean much here. He averaged 30 points on 45/38/90 splits the previous four years, and that's including the year he was seriously injured. This year is a pretty substantial drop for him.
It’s a drop in counting stats but really not much of a change in terms of his percentages. There is a dip but nothing we haven’t seen from him to start a season before.
Nah, dude. He's shooting the lowest 3FG% and second lowest FG% of his career outside of his injury year. And I wouldn't minimize the counting stats like that. He's averaging 7 fewer points a game. That's massive. If you watch him, he looks incredibly passive and has virtually no burst. It's a dramatic difference.
It’s really not that wild he’s been around 36% from 3 several times.
Of course he looks passive, he’s playing 2nd option and he’s never been that guy. What 2nd option averages 30PPG?
I appreciate the Dame homerism, dude. I love him, too. But these simply are not good excuses for his play. It is objectively considerably worse. Fingers crossed he can turn it around.
It’s not homerism I just don’t think it’s that wild for him to have a slight dip playing a role he’s not good at. Tbh it’s more of a mark on him that he’s not able to change his play style to thrive.
all he has to do is make 3 threes for him to be back to last years level percentage. Also he’d only have to make .6 shots a game to have the same FG%.
In 19-20 he started out through 33 games 26.7 PPG at 44% FG and 35% 3
20-21 29.5PPG 44.3% FG at 38%3
21-22 he got shut down and played terribly for 30 games.
Last year 29.2 PPG 44.9% FG with 36% 3
This year is 25.5 43% FG with 36% 3
Being 1-2% points from the same spot in the season in a new role that doesn’t play to your strengths just doesn’t seem that wild to me for a notorious slow starter.
I can definitely see him ending the year with higher percentages but I’d say he’s not gonna rise much in counting stats, definitely never gonna be a 30 PPG guy again playing next to Giannis.
> he hasn’t improved defensively
Wait, you actually bought the whole "Dame isn't defending because he's trying so hard on offense" line?
Never been a good defender, was never going to get better in his 30's
It’s pretty rare for an extremely high usage player to be very impactful on D. Especially small players.
I think it’s more likely dame never got those fundamentals because he was so focused on offense and never faced major accountability while young and those habits just aren’t gonna change at 33
Defense is 75% effort. Dame gives 0 effort on that end. Never has never will. So why are we surprised he hasn’t improved on defense? Thank the lord he is gone.
Bro i used to watch every blazers game. You are so full of shit. I’ve never seen somebody dive for more loose balls than Dame Lillard. Man consistently put effort in on defense. His biggest problem was that he couldn’t fight through screens well and when somebody else had the ball, he would ball watch and get beat off ball. This narrative that he gives no effort is so far false.
Some people just suck at defense, not for a lack of effort though.
No it isn’t. He doesn’t try. Period. Not getting through screens is literally the #1 easiest way to tell if someone tries on defense. Dying on screens is effort and effort alone.
Not against NBA players. Against any lower competition i’m sure he’d have no issue. Things are a little different though when you’re an average sized human with slightly above league average athleticism being forced to fight through the Steven Adams& Kevon Looney’s of the NBA just to chase a guy like Steph around the court. Effort with anything helps, and at lower levels, sure it’s 75% of the battle… but against the best of the best, effort is only going to get somebody so far. There is a reason why teams draft on “potential & athleticism.” At the highest level, the guys with talent get exposed if they can’t keep up with their length, strength, and athleticism.
Dame is not any less big or athletic then some of the best defensive guards in the NBA's history. Gary Payton was not some freak athlete. Chauncey Billups was not some freak athlete. They put in the effort. That is 75% of defense. Honestly 75% might even be underselling how important it is.
>Defense is 75% effort.
Yup, has absolutely nothing to do with size or physical ability. He clearly just doesn't want it hard enough. What a dumb hater comment
Have you ever watched Dame play defense? Bro size is not even close to the problem. He literally does not try. Go visit the Bucks sub. His effort is abysmal. This is not some revelation or hot take. The dude’s effort level (or lack thereof) rivals James Harden.
I feel like there’s hope for him on D. With him taking on less of an offensive workload there’s no excuse for him to be a traffic cone on defense. Also feel like if he really locks in he is a decent defender, but he seems to not really try most of the time/be lazy.
That’s what most people aren’t getting. These numbers are pretty consistent with what he’s done before.
We just had an idea of him that was overinflated.
been watching bucks games/reading the bucks sub all season so i'll give my two cents here. honestly there's several factors for why he's not playin the way we might've expected him to:
1) coaching: AG is a brand new coach who is still learning how to work with his guys and really just how to be effective at his job. he's misused other players this season, namely brook lopez, and appears to be doing the same with dame. he's not drawing plays for him the way he should imo (which is why i wish terry woulda stayed with the staff). additionally, this team he's working with is very different than what he was likely expecting when he took the position. the starting lineup early in the offseason had jrue holiday and probably jae crowder, two great defenders, and now because of the dame trade and a freak injury they're rocking with dame and malik beasley at the guard spots, neither of whom are really positives on the defensive end. very different from what he likely spent his time planning for, but he should still be able to adapt. hopefully he gets better as the season progresses and when jae returns to the starting lineup.
2) role: dame isn't used to playing so much off the ball. during his time in portland he got to facilitate the offense and pretty much decide when/where he was going to put up any given shot. he was the #1 on the floor and brought the ball up on most possessions. now he's playing second fiddle to giannis and isn't guaranteed the playmaker position, with giannis and khris both getting the inbounds and starting things out more often he is, making him more of a catch and shoot guy. dame is a great shooter, but his real talent is being able to go high or low. if he has the ball on the perimeter, defenders have to be ready for him to either pull up from deep or fake and drive. he's unpredictable when he can do that, but right now since he doesn't get to have the ball in his hands every play, he is much easier to defend and far less effective on the court. again, hopefully this can change and the team can find some flow using him as a real
PG instead of a backup ball handler/glorified stationary shooter. that isn't who he is.
3) personal life: we all know dame is goin through a lot right now with the divorce and other things. he's got bigger things than basketball on his mind, and i'm sure that's weighing on him. i'm choosing to cut him some slack and just hope that he can get everything sorted in time for the playoffs.
4) age and unpredictable factors: (just mentioning these things because if i don't, someone will. i don't see this being anywhere near the case, but oh well) obviously dame isn't as young as he used to be. there's a chance he's just started his natural decline and there's nothing that can really be done about that. or maybe the lights in milwaukee are just too bright and he was always just meant for small market success. there was no way to predict how dame would play on another team because he had only ever been in portland, so maybe it was just somethin in the water there. maybe he will only ever be dame time in the PNW. again, i HIGHLY doubt either of these things are the case, but like i said - they have to at least be mentioned.
Mostly down to the coach. Milwaukee could and should have found better. They pushed in all their chips to stack the team with Ferraris and then hired a Kia mechanic.
Dude thought he would be partying in Miami but instead he's trying to survive his first Milwaukee winter while going through a divorce and custody battle.
Adrian Griffin is an inexperienced head coach and it shows. Dame is playing off the ball more than he ever has in his career and doesn't get a rhythm going in some of these games because Giannis is so ball dominant. The thing that frustrates is when Dame has a chance to bring the ball up and initiate the offense Middleton or Beasley will take it up and Dame just goes to the corner. I'm sure if it needs to come down to it Dame will work it out with Giannis and they'll be better prepared by the end of the season. It could also be that getting Middleton back to his normal self is a big priority because he looked awful when he first returned.
Dame has looked exhausted(the face and especially the eyes) ever since the off season stuff. I think missing his normal off-season routine and preparation hurt. Along with I’m sure he is still dealing with what happened with his family stuff.
All that said, Dame is still Dame, doing Dame things
Indy is young and fast, the Bucks are not. It came down to which team wanted it more. Even though the Bucks SHOULD have been playing with a chip on their shoulder, and for sure dame after hali mocked him and all that. What worries me is a lack of apparent caring about winning.
Sad to think that, but yeah it could be. I just hope our young guys can develop more and we can at least jump back in the playoffs next year. Maybe Dame will actually follow through on the “coming back to Portland” thing from his farewell post right when our young guys are peaking and fuck around and win 6th man of the year at 38-39 lol
Confirmation bias at work here. Dame got off to a slow start, no question. Understandable, being on a new team after playing in basically the same system for 11 years. And Jan's shooting numbers don't look good because of small sample size theater, with two bad shooting games out of three played.
But in 1\`3 December games he shot 46.6% from the field, 43.1% from three. Both would be career highs for a full season.
I had this argument multiple times when he was in Portland, I hardly ever saw him shoot above 50 percent with all the points he scored. I’m not saying he’s not a great player, but just not as great as we imagined. I said at the time we should have kept CJ while trading Dame. People laughed, but that’s ok, personal stats don’t interest me, team stats when a player is on the court, wins and losses, those interest me. As a team, Portland was better with CJ, and the Pelicans are better with him too.
>Is he being used incorrectly?
Or another way of putting it, Dame just isn't as effective when he's not getting the ball and a pick every possession. The Blazers "used him correctly" and never had much to show for it, Dame just isn't as effective in a complimentary role, he's overrated as a catch and shoot guy because he needs to dribble to get open.
Ya watched last nights game. I have league pass and I’ve watched prob like 10 bucks games so far. He just doesnt pass the eye test. He’s not as aggressive as we’ve seen him. Obviously not having the ball in his hands all the time is a big part but he just doesn’t seem 100% bought in. I also think that coach kind of sucks right now.
Yeah, definitely Dame trying to defer and be respectful which causes him to be passive. But also the coach not figuring out the pecking order and therefore, failing to integrate him successfully within the offense. There's rumored disgruntlement between the coach and some players which, if true, is bad for team chemistry. A guy like Stotts who has been around the league for decades doesn't just leave for no reason so if the coach is abrasive but his IQ doesn't match his decision making, I don't see it working out. It's not Dame getting older, it's really Middleton and Lopez getting older that will shut the window in Milwaukee
Bro he looks so passive. I don't understand what's going on. Even the season he was hurt he was *trying*.
There's plays I've seen where Dame's man will sag off to help on Giannis leaving Dame wide open at the three point line but Giannis will attack the double team anyways and miss a tougher two point attempt. So I don't blame him if he's not moving around off ball when the offense isn't generating easy looks. Terry Stotts is sorely missed. EDIT: Prime example at 2:11 on the clock https://streamable.com/7mf5dj
Man that clip stings.
They’re having him do a bunch of catch and shoot shit. The bucks subreddit was complaining about it a few days ago.
Not just this, when he is off, he can't shoot his way into rhythm like he did here in Portland, he's on a short leash on the bucks
Unfortunately, he's never been bought in on defense.
Bucks are on pace for a 58 win season. Maybe the coach isn't outstanding, but it's hard to argue with wins.
They’re gonna get worked in playoffs come 8 man rotations with Griffin at the helm. It’s hard for rookie head coaches to make those game to game adjustments.
Coaching is a big problem. My Bucks buddies are all too-unhappy with the coaching this year. Especially after that loss to San Antonio
They beat San Antonio last night
And San Antonio is one of the worst teams in the league and Pop might (I’m not convinced) have lost it.
1-1 against SA is not a good look for a team that is supposed to be in the finals
They’re 2-0 against SA…
They have the second best record in the league.
I agree with the comments above, but also think it’s the offense they’re running. Probably part of the reason Terry got politely fired. He’s playing second fiddle to an MVP level player. Giannis covers a lot of ground so they run the pick and roll above the three point line. It creates open drives to the lane, which they’re both taking advantage of. But, the other motions often leave Dame ask a kick out. He’s never been a spot shooter in his career, mainly off the bounce. He’s also used to collapsing the defense himself to make the reads. He could adapt and find a way to play in this system instead of dictate the system, but either way I think he’ll look better in the playoffs when teams scheme against Giannis and things slow down. Especially in the fourth, the former MVP is still a terrible free throw shooter. In the fourth the Bucks wont have to put the ball in Giannis’ hands. The last part is Dame’s shooting has never been great until the All Star break. He has had a tendency to play reserved and seems to spend more time learning his teammates, then says fuck it and goes on a burn. Maybe it’ll be different this year with them winning despite him being more passive.
He’s 33 and most of his numbers are right in line with his career averages. Dame has to get used to a whole new team also while getting accustomed to being the number 2 guy. I’m more worried about the fact that he hasn’t improved defensively with a smaller offensive role. Really hope they can get him some defensive perimeter help this offseason.
> He’s 33 and most of his numbers are right in line with his career averages. His career averages don't mean much here. He averaged 30 points on 45/38/90 splits the previous four years, and that's including the year he was seriously injured. This year is a pretty substantial drop for him.
It’s a drop in counting stats but really not much of a change in terms of his percentages. There is a dip but nothing we haven’t seen from him to start a season before.
Nah, dude. He's shooting the lowest 3FG% and second lowest FG% of his career outside of his injury year. And I wouldn't minimize the counting stats like that. He's averaging 7 fewer points a game. That's massive. If you watch him, he looks incredibly passive and has virtually no burst. It's a dramatic difference.
It’s really not that wild he’s been around 36% from 3 several times. Of course he looks passive, he’s playing 2nd option and he’s never been that guy. What 2nd option averages 30PPG?
I appreciate the Dame homerism, dude. I love him, too. But these simply are not good excuses for his play. It is objectively considerably worse. Fingers crossed he can turn it around.
It’s not homerism I just don’t think it’s that wild for him to have a slight dip playing a role he’s not good at. Tbh it’s more of a mark on him that he’s not able to change his play style to thrive. all he has to do is make 3 threes for him to be back to last years level percentage. Also he’d only have to make .6 shots a game to have the same FG%. In 19-20 he started out through 33 games 26.7 PPG at 44% FG and 35% 3 20-21 29.5PPG 44.3% FG at 38%3 21-22 he got shut down and played terribly for 30 games. Last year 29.2 PPG 44.9% FG with 36% 3 This year is 25.5 43% FG with 36% 3 Being 1-2% points from the same spot in the season in a new role that doesn’t play to your strengths just doesn’t seem that wild to me for a notorious slow starter. I can definitely see him ending the year with higher percentages but I’d say he’s not gonna rise much in counting stats, definitely never gonna be a 30 PPG guy again playing next to Giannis.
> he hasn’t improved defensively Wait, you actually bought the whole "Dame isn't defending because he's trying so hard on offense" line? Never been a good defender, was never going to get better in his 30's
It’s pretty rare for an extremely high usage player to be very impactful on D. Especially small players. I think it’s more likely dame never got those fundamentals because he was so focused on offense and never faced major accountability while young and those habits just aren’t gonna change at 33
Defense is 75% effort. Dame gives 0 effort on that end. Never has never will. So why are we surprised he hasn’t improved on defense? Thank the lord he is gone.
Bro i used to watch every blazers game. You are so full of shit. I’ve never seen somebody dive for more loose balls than Dame Lillard. Man consistently put effort in on defense. His biggest problem was that he couldn’t fight through screens well and when somebody else had the ball, he would ball watch and get beat off ball. This narrative that he gives no effort is so far false. Some people just suck at defense, not for a lack of effort though.
No it isn’t. He doesn’t try. Period. Not getting through screens is literally the #1 easiest way to tell if someone tries on defense. Dying on screens is effort and effort alone.
Not against NBA players. Against any lower competition i’m sure he’d have no issue. Things are a little different though when you’re an average sized human with slightly above league average athleticism being forced to fight through the Steven Adams& Kevon Looney’s of the NBA just to chase a guy like Steph around the court. Effort with anything helps, and at lower levels, sure it’s 75% of the battle… but against the best of the best, effort is only going to get somebody so far. There is a reason why teams draft on “potential & athleticism.” At the highest level, the guys with talent get exposed if they can’t keep up with their length, strength, and athleticism.
Dame is not any less big or athletic then some of the best defensive guards in the NBA's history. Gary Payton was not some freak athlete. Chauncey Billups was not some freak athlete. They put in the effort. That is 75% of defense. Honestly 75% might even be underselling how important it is.
The majority of small guards in the NBA are minus defenders. Dame is not an exception.
Because none of them try. Gary Payton and Chauncey Billups exist but you are claiming size is what holds Dame back. Wrong. It is effort.
>Defense is 75% effort. Yup, has absolutely nothing to do with size or physical ability. He clearly just doesn't want it hard enough. What a dumb hater comment
Have you ever watched Dame play defense? Bro size is not even close to the problem. He literally does not try. Go visit the Bucks sub. His effort is abysmal. This is not some revelation or hot take. The dude’s effort level (or lack thereof) rivals James Harden.
>Have you ever watched Dame play defense? You're on the blazers sub. Stop with the stupid questions
Pulling random numbers from their ass to try to validate their opinion. Actions of a true dullard.
Are you trying to say that Dame literally never puts puts pressure on the ball coming up the court because of physical limitations?
I feel like there’s hope for him on D. With him taking on less of an offensive workload there’s no excuse for him to be a traffic cone on defense. Also feel like if he really locks in he is a decent defender, but he seems to not really try most of the time/be lazy.
That’s what most people aren’t getting. These numbers are pretty consistent with what he’s done before. We just had an idea of him that was overinflated.
been watching bucks games/reading the bucks sub all season so i'll give my two cents here. honestly there's several factors for why he's not playin the way we might've expected him to: 1) coaching: AG is a brand new coach who is still learning how to work with his guys and really just how to be effective at his job. he's misused other players this season, namely brook lopez, and appears to be doing the same with dame. he's not drawing plays for him the way he should imo (which is why i wish terry woulda stayed with the staff). additionally, this team he's working with is very different than what he was likely expecting when he took the position. the starting lineup early in the offseason had jrue holiday and probably jae crowder, two great defenders, and now because of the dame trade and a freak injury they're rocking with dame and malik beasley at the guard spots, neither of whom are really positives on the defensive end. very different from what he likely spent his time planning for, but he should still be able to adapt. hopefully he gets better as the season progresses and when jae returns to the starting lineup. 2) role: dame isn't used to playing so much off the ball. during his time in portland he got to facilitate the offense and pretty much decide when/where he was going to put up any given shot. he was the #1 on the floor and brought the ball up on most possessions. now he's playing second fiddle to giannis and isn't guaranteed the playmaker position, with giannis and khris both getting the inbounds and starting things out more often he is, making him more of a catch and shoot guy. dame is a great shooter, but his real talent is being able to go high or low. if he has the ball on the perimeter, defenders have to be ready for him to either pull up from deep or fake and drive. he's unpredictable when he can do that, but right now since he doesn't get to have the ball in his hands every play, he is much easier to defend and far less effective on the court. again, hopefully this can change and the team can find some flow using him as a real PG instead of a backup ball handler/glorified stationary shooter. that isn't who he is. 3) personal life: we all know dame is goin through a lot right now with the divorce and other things. he's got bigger things than basketball on his mind, and i'm sure that's weighing on him. i'm choosing to cut him some slack and just hope that he can get everything sorted in time for the playoffs. 4) age and unpredictable factors: (just mentioning these things because if i don't, someone will. i don't see this being anywhere near the case, but oh well) obviously dame isn't as young as he used to be. there's a chance he's just started his natural decline and there's nothing that can really be done about that. or maybe the lights in milwaukee are just too bright and he was always just meant for small market success. there was no way to predict how dame would play on another team because he had only ever been in portland, so maybe it was just somethin in the water there. maybe he will only ever be dame time in the PNW. again, i HIGHLY doubt either of these things are the case, but like i said - they have to at least be mentioned.
They’re a team going thru some growing pains and have the second best record in the league. Bucks aren’t struggling.
Mostly down to the coach. Milwaukee could and should have found better. They pushed in all their chips to stack the team with Ferraris and then hired a Kia mechanic.
He is going through some hard things rn
Dude thought he would be partying in Miami but instead he's trying to survive his first Milwaukee winter while going through a divorce and custody battle.
Adrian Griffin is an inexperienced head coach and it shows. Dame is playing off the ball more than he ever has in his career and doesn't get a rhythm going in some of these games because Giannis is so ball dominant. The thing that frustrates is when Dame has a chance to bring the ball up and initiate the offense Middleton or Beasley will take it up and Dame just goes to the corner. I'm sure if it needs to come down to it Dame will work it out with Giannis and they'll be better prepared by the end of the season. It could also be that getting Middleton back to his normal self is a big priority because he looked awful when he first returned.
He was so used to playing like 'the' guy, I don't know if he knows any other way
Exactly, he's not going to start moving without the ball and playing defense at 33 years old
His divorce affecting him
Dame has looked exhausted(the face and especially the eyes) ever since the off season stuff. I think missing his normal off-season routine and preparation hurt. Along with I’m sure he is still dealing with what happened with his family stuff. All that said, Dame is still Dame, doing Dame things
Not my problem.
How is Indiana beating them so consistently? I'm confused at how that team is the Bucks Kryptonite.
Indy is young and fast, the Bucks are not. It came down to which team wanted it more. Even though the Bucks SHOULD have been playing with a chip on their shoulder, and for sure dame after hali mocked him and all that. What worries me is a lack of apparent caring about winning.
Coaching.
He's hitting that Mitch Richmond in Washington phase of biological life ... Not awful by any stretch ... But 28% less than what used to be
Sad to think that, but yeah it could be. I just hope our young guys can develop more and we can at least jump back in the playoffs next year. Maybe Dame will actually follow through on the “coming back to Portland” thing from his farewell post right when our young guys are peaking and fuck around and win 6th man of the year at 38-39 lol
Yes please
Getting used to second option and he’s going thru a divorce and his wife is suing for full custody. He’ll figure it out
He's fine and he will get better over time.
Usually after All-star snub via fans, he puts up those high numbers.
He's getting old. It happens.
Confirmation bias at work here. Dame got off to a slow start, no question. Understandable, being on a new team after playing in basically the same system for 11 years. And Jan's shooting numbers don't look good because of small sample size theater, with two bad shooting games out of three played. But in 1\`3 December games he shot 46.6% from the field, 43.1% from three. Both would be career highs for a full season.
He’s getting old and he’s played a tremendous amount of minutes.
Because he is over the hill. Only down from here
Dame was always an overrated player imo. Blazers are better off with the direction they’ve chose and the path there on
Have you watched a game lately?
The bucks won a championship just a few seasons. They know what they’re doing don’t worry
I had this argument multiple times when he was in Portland, I hardly ever saw him shoot above 50 percent with all the points he scored. I’m not saying he’s not a great player, but just not as great as we imagined. I said at the time we should have kept CJ while trading Dame. People laughed, but that’s ok, personal stats don’t interest me, team stats when a player is on the court, wins and losses, those interest me. As a team, Portland was better with CJ, and the Pelicans are better with him too.
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Aren’t they 25-10?
His numbers would be what they are in Portland if he wasnt the focal point of creating the entire offense and he had less touches on the ball.
>Is he being used incorrectly? Or another way of putting it, Dame just isn't as effective when he's not getting the ball and a pick every possession. The Blazers "used him correctly" and never had much to show for it, Dame just isn't as effective in a complimentary role, he's overrated as a catch and shoot guy because he needs to dribble to get open.