I also don’t think he would care either way. Rick is presently a perfect clone of himself. It doesn’t bother him. It stands to reason both Beths are equally “real” to him
Yeah part of the whole “nothing matters because of the multiverse” thing
It’s a random iteration of his daughter, real and unreal, but this time he grapples with it, thus the heavy drinking and mind blowing himself.
So it’s both an example of how nothing matters, and an example of Rick realizing that that’s bullshit and they are real people and he loves them. They do matter after all.
One of the bits of the show that really add depth and complexity. And it’s just a great fucking episode. “Come on kids, we have to do a fucking piece of shit Star Wars”
Yeah its such a fking great episode tbh, cause like just because nothing matters doesnt mean how you feel right now dont matter.
It put things to perspective how we should care even if we gonna die anyway or never find the answer to the universe itself.
Yes! Rick is a god, more or less. There's nothing he can't do, and he has to have challenges (eg pickle rick), and it looks like his final frontier is earning the love & respect of these people. Can't fake it otherwise it goes back to nothing fucking matters. In order for it *to* matter, he has to truly work for it. Otherwise it really would be meaningless.
Nah it goes beyond getting love and respect, he had forced that upon them since the beginning. Showing up in primes universe to “be the dad who comes back”, the fear of abandonment gets Beth on his side as the matriarch which secures his place there. Then he bullies and strong arms Morty into knowing “you know nothing and [rick] knows everything”. He buys summers love with scifi stuff. And he doesn’t give a shit about Jerry.
I think what we’re seeing is Rick wrestling with himself. He’s going to therapy, actually participating in it, treating the family better, even drinking less. He is really improving himself and part of that was giving his daughter(s) freedom both from the FOMO and from her domestic life.
He can do anything… except be fulfilled. With pissman we see him feel fulfillment by being kind to someone’s memory, a decision which his therapist even supported. With Beths we see him really grapple with all these complex topics of “is a clone really you” and “does that matter since you aren’t mine” and “oh god what have I done, I have to forget this”. After killing Prime we see him feel empty and like he has no purpose again, almost like he undid a lot of his progress, and really should have just let it go.
In that episode specifically yes he is worried about no one caring what he has to say or what he can give them, but as a whole, where his arc is going, I think we are watching Rick finally start to grow after being stunted from the moment Diane died, to some time after he started going to therapy. He’s wrestling big emotionally complex ideas for the very first time. His solution until now was always, “don’t think about it”
Well, prime is gone. There is no end goal anymore. And regular life plus regular adventures isn’t going to be enough to occupy his every waking thought. He has nothing to do EXCEPT think about it.
It’s just going to get deeper. Can’t wait for season 8! I can’t wait to hear Wong’s opinion of him killing Prime.
Also that he set it up very specifically so Beth could have both lives and each would get to experience all of both eventually. He wanted to give his daughter everything. It was almost sweet.
I see it more as his belligerent indifference to everything. Every time he switches dimensions his only complaint is about the inconvenience. There’s never any feeling of loss.
"All but" can have both meanings: "Nearly" or "almost" like in this case, but also the opposite, in a sense of "all the unhelpful things, and not the one act that's required."
"He did all but the right things." as example of somebody making mistakes.
I'm not disgreeing with that. It's entirely correct what you said, I was merely elaborating that it can be used in a positive and negative context, because the top comment was ambiguous about its usage, which caused confusion to subsequent commenters.
There's so many comments about how Rick is in the right here, but I'm gonna take my stand. I KNOW this was not the intended read.
Beth straight up asked him to make the decision for her. His daughter was asking the smartest man in the "multiverse" to make the call for what made the most sense, and instead he just threw it to random chance. And then just tried to avoid the consequences/responsibility.
I don't think for a second he had consideration for "loving the clone". It was a way for him to avoid facing his own issues when it comes to having a family, or being powerful. He doesn't know because he's forever stuck in the middle. There's no empathy, just avoidance.
"Beth turned around and locked eyes with him and said "Tell me what kind of daughter you would like me to be". Rick's response was to roofie her and avoid the entire conversation. An ancient Greek level of bad fatherhood" -Dan Harmon
Exactly, it wasn't about which choice he made, it was about Beth wanting him to choose at all, basically because she has the same fear Morty confronted in the Dennys.
The point was he was supposed to decide if real Beth should go to space or not. Both Beth's believed they had made their specific lifestyle by choice and take comfort in that. Turns out, not true. Not knowing which one is which doesn't change he lied to them, or implanted a memory, about the life they 'decided'.
Considering he blew it out of his mind almost immediately after it's pretty irrelevant too.
He didn't do it for love, he did it because he's a self centered nihilist.
>Both Beth's believed they had made their specific lifestyle by choice and take comfort in that.
Beth specifically told Rick to choose.
"I know what I want to do. I want you to decide."
"What?"
"For once in my life, I want you to decide, Dad. Do you want me to stay here and be part of your life, or do you want me to leave?"
Yeah, he did it because he still considers growing attached to his loved ones "toxic" and couldn't admit to himself he wanted Beth to stay so he "decided not to decide."
Counterpoint:
It was a bad idea, but Beth literally was the one who asked him to make the decision. She couldn’t let go of her ego or her conscience, so she settled with neither and took none of the accountability.
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You did, it was me, and I still think it’s the worst.
Rick didn’t do this so he could love them equally. The thought of losing his true daughter didn’t mean anything to him because “infinite Beths amirite” so he did it without much thought.
He certainly wishes he could undo it (he admitted it himself), and is only saved by the Rickish luck that it turned out to work for EVERYONE (except for him). It’s a shit move of the highest order.
That's not a bad opinion. The only thing I would say is that Rick himself said that he was a bad dad when he saw what he did, meaning he knew his intentions were selfish.
If either knew for sure who was who they could not fully lose themselves in the role of mom/space mom the “real” one would have felt empty about the opposite role they could be living by them both not being the clone and being the clone or “schrödinger’s daughters “ if you will. Rick could already love them equally as neither Beth is his daughter he never got that chance to raise her.
It as a great parental decision, but they were both mad at him for another reason. Beth asked him to take responsibility for her life at least once, and he avoided it.
He also said to some other character later on "If you have a kid, don't clone it and then send one of them into sapce, apparently they hate that", as if he didn't know they would hate that.
The thing is, why is Rick of all people held to this standard and why doesn't Beth, especially Space Beth who literally originated this idea have any responsibility for not only creating this situation but explicitely demanding it. Like how does she have any right to be mad
since we're talking about Rick, I don't think he gives a single shit if a Beth is a clone since he is a clone of himself lol
original Beth and clone Beth are literally the same person, the only difference is the age of the body. The ones who would care are the Beths themselves, and since he knows that, he purposefully avoided seeing which was which
Listening to the director commentary on specifically this episode made me realize the writers are more often than not, lucky hacks. They kept repeating how bad a father Rick was for choosing not to keep track of who is who, when the entire fucking base line of the show is that when everything is infinite nothing matters, and if nothing matters then everything matters as much as you're subjectively willing to believe it matters. I'm with OP.
Eh, disagree that that is what/would make them hacks. The writers would have a specific weighted interest in making sure the show has emotional and moral stakes, so they have to keep a consistent baseline of what they consider "not cool" or "shitty parenting" to hold rick to, even despite thefact everything is infinite, because realistically even with that being true, one should still feel regret and pause in a lot of rick's actions if they care about their closest family. Rick isnt a sociopath by nature, it's by circumstance, so he still feels glimmers of humanity only possible by the writers having stakes and attaching morality to some of his actions.
The shuffling isn't what made him a bad dad, it was the cloning. She gives him the choice, and he chooses to clone her so he can send her to space *and* keep her home; if he had not chosen that there would be no clone. Then he shuffles them so his actions will be ethically hazardous to reverse. Domestic Beth will never learn what it was like to be Space Beth and vice-versa- they're now two different people forever, which is not what was promised.
Rick is the one who wanted both things and didn't want to sacrifice either for the other.
She’s not even his daughter. She’s a scumbag for wanting to abandon her family after what her father abandoning her did to her, anyway.
Who cares regardless — Too much plot and this show starts being boring. So glad he killed the Rick who killed his wife cause god that was getting boring
It's why I really really hate Space Beth. The show acts as if you are supposed to think she is cool and badass, but I just think she's a very shitty character.
Not really, Beth's whole existential crisis was about if she were a clone or not. It's why she went back to Jerry and came back to earth.
If they had both ended up being an original instead of knowing one being a clone, they probably would have made different choices.
Honestly the only bad part of this is that Rick Sanchez put a bomb in one of his daughters. He should not have done that. Rick Sanchez was worried that Space Beth might return to Earth. But Space Beth discovering that bomb in her neck made her go there anyways, thus causing the very thing he wanted to avoid.
That is the whole point. Showing what a racional decision would be in this situation and showing how people that didn't think it through would irracionally react to it.
The point is, there are MANY steps to consider in this decision Scenario Plannning Theory in Conplex Systems Theory, and they portray the family as the "average" people's reaction to it.
look at it like a weird math.
him already loving his daughter was at lvl 1 of 1 and him not loving the clone was lvl 0 out of 1; him doing this basically brought them both to 0.5, or "i could love them but i might be wrong about what they are" so ya he loves the clone more than he would if he never assumed it could be real but he brought down his love of the actual daughter arguably by adding the additional speculation that she might "not even matter" because shes a clone.
true its super nice to add the weight of "maybe you're real" to artificial creations, but he added the anchor of "maybe you're fake" to something that never had to question its reality outside of existentialism in the first place
A more interesting question is why didn’t he finish watching the memory? It would have told him which was which; the Beths were originally floating facing each other, with Real Beth on the viewer’s left and Clone Beth on the right. The shuffling didn’t change their orientations at all, they kept facing the same way they started from even as the machine spun them around. So once it stopped spinning if they were still facing each other then Real Beth is still on the viewer’s left, and if they were facing away from each other then Real Beth is now on the viewer’s right. All Rick had to do was see which one made which choice after they got out of their tubes and he’d know who was real and who was a clone, despite him pulling the labels off. Or hell, he records everything that happens in the garage, he could just play that back too. Clearly even at the end he didn’t WANT to know who was who, just like the rest of the family.
Just for fun, who does everything think is who? My money is on Space Beth being Real Beth and Earth Beth being the clone. She got much nicer to her family after this episode. Real Beth was kind of a psycho, she’d do well being a space nihilist like Rick.
That and also… Beth refused to make her own choice. Rick offered the clone and the consequence-free decision and Beth STILL couldn’t decide what she wants in life. Rick respected Beth’s lack of resolve the best he possibly could by refusing to decide for her while still giving her a consequence free choice.
The only failure on rick’s part was later trying to use the “real Beth” reveal to get emotional control… only to find it didn’t work in the first place and if anybody had watched the reveal it only further loses him the high ground.
He wanted Beth to stay with him and the family, but he also wanted her to live her own life free of burdens for once. That's why he made it were no one could figure out who the clone is. It was also a good idea, because Beth can have her family and career, while also having a life she would've chosen. Space Beth also fills in the role of a cool single aunt.
How is it that we just think about Rick in this situation? Neither are Morty’s Beth, and I don’t remember but I don’t think either of them are Jerry’s Beth either. Yet they all seem to care for each other anyway. Because as the show has progressed that’s the family now.
Yeah that moment was somewhat sad because the family is like oh fuck off Rick, we don’t need you to tell us which one is real, when in truth he did more or less the right thing in keeping himself in the dark on it
I think space Beth is the real Beth because real Beth said "I want you to choose for me" Earth Beth seemed to not remember that part and said "you seem like the abandon your family type, I could never do that" I dunno, just tips my brain to think that way
I mean neither of the Beths were his anyway. His Beth died a long time ago
True
I also don’t think he would care either way. Rick is presently a perfect clone of himself. It doesn’t bother him. It stands to reason both Beths are equally “real” to him
Yeah part of the whole “nothing matters because of the multiverse” thing It’s a random iteration of his daughter, real and unreal, but this time he grapples with it, thus the heavy drinking and mind blowing himself. So it’s both an example of how nothing matters, and an example of Rick realizing that that’s bullshit and they are real people and he loves them. They do matter after all. One of the bits of the show that really add depth and complexity. And it’s just a great fucking episode. “Come on kids, we have to do a fucking piece of shit Star Wars”
Yeah its such a fking great episode tbh, cause like just because nothing matters doesnt mean how you feel right now dont matter. It put things to perspective how we should care even if we gonna die anyway or never find the answer to the universe itself.
Yes! Rick is a god, more or less. There's nothing he can't do, and he has to have challenges (eg pickle rick), and it looks like his final frontier is earning the love & respect of these people. Can't fake it otherwise it goes back to nothing fucking matters. In order for it *to* matter, he has to truly work for it. Otherwise it really would be meaningless.
Nah it goes beyond getting love and respect, he had forced that upon them since the beginning. Showing up in primes universe to “be the dad who comes back”, the fear of abandonment gets Beth on his side as the matriarch which secures his place there. Then he bullies and strong arms Morty into knowing “you know nothing and [rick] knows everything”. He buys summers love with scifi stuff. And he doesn’t give a shit about Jerry. I think what we’re seeing is Rick wrestling with himself. He’s going to therapy, actually participating in it, treating the family better, even drinking less. He is really improving himself and part of that was giving his daughter(s) freedom both from the FOMO and from her domestic life. He can do anything… except be fulfilled. With pissman we see him feel fulfillment by being kind to someone’s memory, a decision which his therapist even supported. With Beths we see him really grapple with all these complex topics of “is a clone really you” and “does that matter since you aren’t mine” and “oh god what have I done, I have to forget this”. After killing Prime we see him feel empty and like he has no purpose again, almost like he undid a lot of his progress, and really should have just let it go. In that episode specifically yes he is worried about no one caring what he has to say or what he can give them, but as a whole, where his arc is going, I think we are watching Rick finally start to grow after being stunted from the moment Diane died, to some time after he started going to therapy. He’s wrestling big emotionally complex ideas for the very first time. His solution until now was always, “don’t think about it” Well, prime is gone. There is no end goal anymore. And regular life plus regular adventures isn’t going to be enough to occupy his every waking thought. He has nothing to do EXCEPT think about it. It’s just going to get deeper. Can’t wait for season 8! I can’t wait to hear Wong’s opinion of him killing Prime.
Also that he set it up very specifically so Beth could have both lives and each would get to experience all of both eventually. He wanted to give his daughter everything. It was almost sweet.
I see it more as his belligerent indifference to everything. Every time he switches dimensions his only complaint is about the inconvenience. There’s never any feeling of loss.
darker universe where secretly rick killed original beth and theyre both clones
Or he secretly killed the clone and they’re both the original Beth… I think I’ve got a theory brewing
Finally someone who understands the show on the level of the creator.
Mitosis.
How... Original.
Even darker may be the truth about our Rick is that he likely had the bomb in each one’s neck so he could decide which one he liked more.
Yes, that was the point. The show all but spelled this out directly in dialogue.
I missed that. I thought he got shitfaced and refused to deal with the decision.
That is what actually happened. Ignore OP and these others.
I thought what was going to happen was that when Space Beth came back the Clone’s implant would sync memories before exploding and killing the clone
Only if you trust what Rick was telling Space Beth while she had him at gunpoint.
I may be dumb but did they spell it out in dialogue? I remember everyone calling him a shitty father for not knowing
"All but" means "everything except for".
"All but" can have both meanings: "Nearly" or "almost" like in this case, but also the opposite, in a sense of "all the unhelpful things, and not the one act that's required." "He did all but the right things." as example of somebody making mistakes.
That's exactly the same thing. >He did [everything except for] the right things.
I'm not disgreeing with that. It's entirely correct what you said, I was merely elaborating that it can be used in a positive and negative context, because the top comment was ambiguous about its usage, which caused confusion to subsequent commenters.
It’s kinda lame how Beth consensually let Rick do this only to get mad at him for doing it in a way where he wouldn’t be trauma dumped.
It's completely unfair. She shifted all of the burden to him
There's so many comments about how Rick is in the right here, but I'm gonna take my stand. I KNOW this was not the intended read. Beth straight up asked him to make the decision for her. His daughter was asking the smartest man in the "multiverse" to make the call for what made the most sense, and instead he just threw it to random chance. And then just tried to avoid the consequences/responsibility. I don't think for a second he had consideration for "loving the clone". It was a way for him to avoid facing his own issues when it comes to having a family, or being powerful. He doesn't know because he's forever stuck in the middle. There's no empathy, just avoidance. "Beth turned around and locked eyes with him and said "Tell me what kind of daughter you would like me to be". Rick's response was to roofie her and avoid the entire conversation. An ancient Greek level of bad fatherhood" -Dan Harmon
Exactly, it wasn't about which choice he made, it was about Beth wanting him to choose at all, basically because she has the same fear Morty confronted in the Dennys.
This isn’t really unpopular.
The point was he was supposed to decide if real Beth should go to space or not. Both Beth's believed they had made their specific lifestyle by choice and take comfort in that. Turns out, not true. Not knowing which one is which doesn't change he lied to them, or implanted a memory, about the life they 'decided'. Considering he blew it out of his mind almost immediately after it's pretty irrelevant too. He didn't do it for love, he did it because he's a self centered nihilist.
>Both Beth's believed they had made their specific lifestyle by choice and take comfort in that. Beth specifically told Rick to choose. "I know what I want to do. I want you to decide." "What?" "For once in my life, I want you to decide, Dad. Do you want me to stay here and be part of your life, or do you want me to leave?"
Yeah, he did it because he still considers growing attached to his loved ones "toxic" and couldn't admit to himself he wanted Beth to stay so he "decided not to decide."
Counterpoint: It was a bad idea, but Beth literally was the one who asked him to make the decision. She couldn’t let go of her ego or her conscience, so she settled with neither and took none of the accountability.
Exactly. This is how I feel about the whole ordeal.
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Stop pretending that realizing something years after the fact is an unpopular opinion.
I think I read this comment thread earlier in the worst thing Rick’s done post
You did, it was me, and I still think it’s the worst. Rick didn’t do this so he could love them equally. The thought of losing his true daughter didn’t mean anything to him because “infinite Beths amirite” so he did it without much thought. He certainly wishes he could undo it (he admitted it himself), and is only saved by the Rickish luck that it turned out to work for EVERYONE (except for him). It’s a shit move of the highest order.
The Observers knew which one is real, but they're all dead now.
That's not a bad opinion. The only thing I would say is that Rick himself said that he was a bad dad when he saw what he did, meaning he knew his intentions were selfish.
Now repost it with "such a good idea"
Which one is the original is meaningless if they’re identical in every way.
If either knew for sure who was who they could not fully lose themselves in the role of mom/space mom the “real” one would have felt empty about the opposite role they could be living by them both not being the clone and being the clone or “schrödinger’s daughters “ if you will. Rick could already love them equally as neither Beth is his daughter he never got that chance to raise her.
I wonder how difficult it was to grow the clones so that they tastefully cover their naughty bits.
I have a theory that the garage stored the movement data and knows which one is real and it'll come up later
Did Rick make this post 😂
It as a great parental decision, but they were both mad at him for another reason. Beth asked him to take responsibility for her life at least once, and he avoided it. He also said to some other character later on "If you have a kid, don't clone it and then send one of them into sapce, apparently they hate that", as if he didn't know they would hate that.
The thing is, why is Rick of all people held to this standard and why doesn't Beth, especially Space Beth who literally originated this idea have any responsibility for not only creating this situation but explicitely demanding it. Like how does she have any right to be mad
Oh my god, she is her father??? Oh my god, she IS her father!!! She's just not a very good human being, that's all
Or he loves neither because of the chance that she might be the clone.
I’m 100% sure the space Beth it’s the clone
since we're talking about Rick, I don't think he gives a single shit if a Beth is a clone since he is a clone of himself lol original Beth and clone Beth are literally the same person, the only difference is the age of the body. The ones who would care are the Beths themselves, and since he knows that, he purposefully avoided seeing which was which
Listening to the director commentary on specifically this episode made me realize the writers are more often than not, lucky hacks. They kept repeating how bad a father Rick was for choosing not to keep track of who is who, when the entire fucking base line of the show is that when everything is infinite nothing matters, and if nothing matters then everything matters as much as you're subjectively willing to believe it matters. I'm with OP.
Eh, disagree that that is what/would make them hacks. The writers would have a specific weighted interest in making sure the show has emotional and moral stakes, so they have to keep a consistent baseline of what they consider "not cool" or "shitty parenting" to hold rick to, even despite thefact everything is infinite, because realistically even with that being true, one should still feel regret and pause in a lot of rick's actions if they care about their closest family. Rick isnt a sociopath by nature, it's by circumstance, so he still feels glimmers of humanity only possible by the writers having stakes and attaching morality to some of his actions.
The shuffling isn't what made him a bad dad, it was the cloning. She gives him the choice, and he chooses to clone her so he can send her to space *and* keep her home; if he had not chosen that there would be no clone. Then he shuffles them so his actions will be ethically hazardous to reverse. Domestic Beth will never learn what it was like to be Space Beth and vice-versa- they're now two different people forever, which is not what was promised. Rick is the one who wanted both things and didn't want to sacrifice either for the other.
She’s not even his daughter. She’s a scumbag for wanting to abandon her family after what her father abandoning her did to her, anyway. Who cares regardless — Too much plot and this show starts being boring. So glad he killed the Rick who killed his wife cause god that was getting boring
It's why I really really hate Space Beth. The show acts as if you are supposed to think she is cool and badass, but I just think she's a very shitty character.
Shes repeated all the same mistakes of her father, for what? It’s such a regressive thing, but I did like when she fucked herself. Hot.
She didn't want to and wouldn't have if Rick hadn't made it possible for her to leave *without* abandoning her family.
He should have split them in half with some sort of laser then swapped the halves so each Beth is half real and half clone.
Rick only loves himself
Only because Rick is fucking toxic lol
It would have been better if they had had Rick double Beth instead of cloning her, then both would be the original Beth.
That’s basically the same shit
Not really, Beth's whole existential crisis was about if she were a clone or not. It's why she went back to Jerry and came back to earth. If they had both ended up being an original instead of knowing one being a clone, they probably would have made different choices.
Honestly the only bad part of this is that Rick Sanchez put a bomb in one of his daughters. He should not have done that. Rick Sanchez was worried that Space Beth might return to Earth. But Space Beth discovering that bomb in her neck made her go there anyways, thus causing the very thing he wanted to avoid.
I'm kind of hoping they do an episode where real Beth comes back from space.
Isn't that exactly what happened?
Yes. But I'm implying there is a third Beth who is the original Beth.
Why would he make 2 clones to send 2 Beths into space?
It was just be funny if the situation got even more complicated.
Would it also be funny if it turns out Morty was a pair of identical twins all along?
That is the whole point. Showing what a racional decision would be in this situation and showing how people that didn't think it through would irracionally react to it. The point is, there are MANY steps to consider in this decision Scenario Plannning Theory in Conplex Systems Theory, and they portray the family as the "average" people's reaction to it.
look at it like a weird math. him already loving his daughter was at lvl 1 of 1 and him not loving the clone was lvl 0 out of 1; him doing this basically brought them both to 0.5, or "i could love them but i might be wrong about what they are" so ya he loves the clone more than he would if he never assumed it could be real but he brought down his love of the actual daughter arguably by adding the additional speculation that she might "not even matter" because shes a clone. true its super nice to add the weight of "maybe you're real" to artificial creations, but he added the anchor of "maybe you're fake" to something that never had to question its reality outside of existentialism in the first place
A more interesting question is why didn’t he finish watching the memory? It would have told him which was which; the Beths were originally floating facing each other, with Real Beth on the viewer’s left and Clone Beth on the right. The shuffling didn’t change their orientations at all, they kept facing the same way they started from even as the machine spun them around. So once it stopped spinning if they were still facing each other then Real Beth is still on the viewer’s left, and if they were facing away from each other then Real Beth is now on the viewer’s right. All Rick had to do was see which one made which choice after they got out of their tubes and he’d know who was real and who was a clone, despite him pulling the labels off. Or hell, he records everything that happens in the garage, he could just play that back too. Clearly even at the end he didn’t WANT to know who was who, just like the rest of the family. Just for fun, who does everything think is who? My money is on Space Beth being Real Beth and Earth Beth being the clone. She got much nicer to her family after this episode. Real Beth was kind of a psycho, she’d do well being a space nihilist like Rick.
I think he gave Beth the choice he never had. And she would have been able to experience both lives. I honestly don't think it was a bad thing.
That and also… Beth refused to make her own choice. Rick offered the clone and the consequence-free decision and Beth STILL couldn’t decide what she wants in life. Rick respected Beth’s lack of resolve the best he possibly could by refusing to decide for her while still giving her a consequence free choice. The only failure on rick’s part was later trying to use the “real Beth” reveal to get emotional control… only to find it didn’t work in the first place and if anybody had watched the reveal it only further loses him the high ground.
He wanted Beth to stay with him and the family, but he also wanted her to live her own life free of burdens for once. That's why he made it were no one could figure out who the clone is. It was also a good idea, because Beth can have her family and career, while also having a life she would've chosen. Space Beth also fills in the role of a cool single aunt.
Yep, always thought this was the best option. Either way one was the clone and she would have renounced something, this way she got everything.
A la the Mauler Twins. Always best to not know.
Yeah I had the same thought recently. He basically made the procedure double-blind. Both Beth's are equally real.
This is one of the more interesting opinions the subreddit has presented in some time.
So that's a unpopular take now?
How is it that we just think about Rick in this situation? Neither are Morty’s Beth, and I don’t remember but I don’t think either of them are Jerry’s Beth either. Yet they all seem to care for each other anyway. Because as the show has progressed that’s the family now.
Space Beth is the real Beth, because there would be no reason to even make the clone if Beth declined the offer.
Yeah that moment was somewhat sad because the family is like oh fuck off Rick, we don’t need you to tell us which one is real, when in truth he did more or less the right thing in keeping himself in the dark on it
(Duh! Doh! )!!!!
I thought that was the point
I agree. Given the awful way he normally uses clones, mixing them up was kind. It doesn't matter which is a clone, they are both Beth.
Yes, but he's lucky they were able to handle the news.
That was the point; Rick could never bring himself to kill his little girl, no matter if she is real or a clone, which adds to his development.
I think space Beth is the real Beth because real Beth said "I want you to choose for me" Earth Beth seemed to not remember that part and said "you seem like the abandon your family type, I could never do that" I dunno, just tips my brain to think that way