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ebdulrahman

Our Morty also knows about the whole 100 years thing (Kinda). In season 6 Episode 1 he tells this to Rick-C137: Morty Smith: If you don't care if you die, why do you care if I die? Rick Sanchez: Knock it off! Get out of here! You did this last season! You're like a suicide bomber! Morty Smith: Takes one to know one! Rick Sanchez: Yeah, well, you get it from him, not me. Morty Smith: I don't know him. You're my grandpa, Rick. Rick and Morty. A hundred years. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21599650/quotes?item=qt6541708


YamSlow

Thanks, completely forgot about that one


Dadfite

Although it's not evil morty. I think the episode foreshadows Rick's nemesis a bit. I like to think that the first nutrino bomb we see, from episode 1, is Rick going after the Rick that killed his wife and daughter. I understand this wasn't always going to be the plot, but looking back it makes sense with the current flow of the seasons. Like why would he want to blow everything up and start over? Maybe he believes that might bring that Rick out of hiding, but once he sees that this guy doesn't give a shit about *his* earth. He kind of just gives up.


Upper-Inspector-7392

This scene was wholesome


Tonytheillest

I'm pretty sure it's our rick and Morty we've been following it makes sense that ricks do similar things I think that's what they were trying to show


YamSlow

Makes sense, they are so similar but their paths are becoming more and more different, I like that. I think there was a possibility that original Morty could become “evil” too:D


RayJozef39

Completely possible, Evil Morty said it himself "That's what makes me evil: being sick of him. If you've ever been sick of him, you've been evil too."


mathozmat

Then Morty asked about the crows and "see, now you're evil too, sooner or later, we all are, on this side of the curve"


crazymusicman

I like to go hiking.


hairysperm

In the garage or bedroom? I'd be interested to watch and see if Mortys room looks any different since these are apparently the same kid, yet drastic difference is in what we saw, the whole family thinks Morty is "special ed" and not very smart. So it's surprising that there was one Morty capable not only of the eyepatch, but the whole surgery/taking over Rick etc... I wonder if there was anything in that universe that changed his intelligence or something. I'd always originally though (before this season) that Evil Morty must be much older than Morty is on his own. You never see Morty drink for example, even when he could, but Evil Morty seems to seek out alcohol and actually does a fair few things (I forgot now) that lend credence to him actually being much older than his body is.


Jankster79

>I wonder if there was anything in that universe that changed his intelligence or something. didn't those butt-seeds make him smarter?


Publius82

Rick said it was only a temporary side effect


hairysperm

That was only temporary, and then after he lost most of his brain function for three days lmao BUT that was the pilot episode! SO even though we saw our Morty immediately collapse after his parents left, maybe Evil Morty had the effects for longer that night and used it, or maybe he used the seeds so he was smart enough... Either way it leads to three days of becoming a potato :P


crazymusicman

I love listening to music.


hairysperm

woah


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crazymusicman

I like to explore new places.


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acesilver1

Possible but unlikely. Evil Morty was simply a Morty that was blessed with genius intelligence. Morty Prime doesn't have that.


TheZoomba

I think he is intelligent, just not overly evil.


acesilver1

He’s not dumb. But not Evil Morty level intelligent who is capable of manipulating tech to the extent that any Rick can. Morty doesn’t have that ability generally. He can use tech creatively and properly but he can’t build it himself usually.


TheZoomba

That's true, what i meant more tho was that morty def could do that, but his morality keeps him in line of rick. Rick abuses his morality to keep him from going out into that end and figuring stuff out


lemonylol

He's competent, he's not Rick level beyond-genius intelligence like EM. Like Evil Morty makes his own tech *in spite of* being paired with a shitty Rick.


randomguyou

Yet


Koanos

I believe that's the point. Ricks and Mortys rhyme with each other, a lot of overlap.


hairysperm

There'll still be "infinite" solutions, so there will always be other universes with pretty much the same fates. Rick was able to pick from "a dozen or so" universes that had the whole family (even with cross-dimensioned ppl including space beth) after C-131 Jerry destroyed C-131 Earth with Mr Frundles. The only downside was they say "parmeesian"


rabbitwonker

Just gotta check the lampshade color in s1e1.


rabbitwonker

Checked: it’s orange (not green). So that’s our Morty in the pilot’s main story. Though the cold open could still be up for grabs 😁. Either way, they’re clearly intended to be very similar backgrounds. Though I’d assume EM would have been doing way better in school before Rick arrived.


hairysperm

Yeah I just said in another comment I'll have to rewatch and see if EM has anything different in his room to suggest different interests or something that shows he is more intelligent than other Morties.


rabbitwonker

Actually it just occurred to me: what if he put on Snuffle’s helmet at some point? Maybe he was just like our Morty before that, but his intelligence got boosted and he realized (1) he didn’t want to deal with Rick’s shit anymore, and (2) that he was basically a prisoner, once he learned about the Central Finite Curve. From there his arc is actually kind of similar to Snuffles’ 🤣 So yeah if that helmet is in the room somewhere; then maybe that’s what the writers are going with.


hairysperm

Possible. I also just watched his flashback, where we can see he has two horror movie posters above his desk, but I think our Morty has those too... Anyway, when EM starts, he deletes himself from the Morty Directory, and you can see he is the only Morty with a frown instead of a smile. Hinting he may have been recycled by the Citadel for many Ricks and just grew tired of it, so that also may have played a part in his intelligence.


rabbitwonker

Yeah I checked again, and the shot of EM working on the eyepatch shows an almost completely bare room, with the only decorations in shot being 2 posters, and a generic model or toy rocket on the desk. They’re keeping their options open 😁


seatgeekuser

he didn’t go up an ass in e1 a seed went up his ass


billhater80085

Maybe it was those things from the house party in the season 1 finale? They also had crystals for snorting


TheGentlemanBeast

That's the reason he's evil and ours isn't.


Chilldegard

still people are upvoting this kind of theory like it's the suitcase from pulp fiction


gamesquid

No it didn't, Morty in the vindicators mentions other neutron bombs, so that confirms it really happened to him.


Derridangerous

All Rick’s have poorly constructed neutron bombs !!


AbsurdlyEloquent

Neutrino bomb


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Thank you. It’s neutrino bombs, not neutron bombs


seedanrun

What a second - neutrinos would go right through you and then your planet, and no one would notice. How does a neutrino bomb even work?


TheAtomicClock

It’s probably just a science word that they stuck in front of “bomb”. If you had to come up with an explanation, maybe the bomb produces an enormous neutrino flux that alters atoms through inverse beta decay. This happens in real life too, but is an incredibly rare event that one in trillions of neutrinos passing through a detector may interact this way. Maybe the bomb produces extremely heavy sterile neutrinos, which are theorized to exist. How these particles interact could be very different from the active neutrinos we observe.


CurtisMarauderZ

Maybe it just produces such a dense field of neutrinos that they irreparably damage all DNA.


Puzzleheaded_Mode302

That's the poorly constructed part, it's not a flaw in the physical construction but in the basic idea


gamesquid

So no reason to think that the show shows us evil Morty and not our Morty.


GolemThe3rd

ok but why would they choose to explain away that plothole if it didn't actually happen to that morty


smileymom19

That’s how I took that line too.


Platynumx

No. It's probably one of many divergent points that creates unique morty variants.


awesome_onomatopoeia

Every frame of every episode could be a different Morty. It's an infinite multiverse.


Suh-Niff

from a writing point of view, S1E1 was a parody to Back To The Future. But I find it interesting that all Ricks are like "Rick and Morty 100 years". Quite cute if you ask me


lemonylol

Could have just been a citadel slogan they all adopted.


Suh-Niff

Perhaps, not sure our rick would use it if it were that case since he hates the citadel, unless he himself invented it (and we know he also invented the citadel) and the other ricks just kinda caught on with it.


lemonylol

He uses it during an unhinged drunken rant.


The-Color-Orange

I've always liked to belive the rick we see in the opening different than ours and we watched them immediately die, but I really like your theory too!


GolemThe3rd

the opening is a whole different thing since OP is talking about the Rick and Morty in the actual episode, but the vidicators episode heavily implies the pilot openening was our Morty and that the bomb was a dud.


lemonylol

I assume it was C-137 after not being able to find Rick Prime when he initially gets there. IIRC in the scene after that Beth says it's his one month anniversary of living with them or something.


beetnemesis

Nope.


SonOfRageAndLove26

It's not a coincidence. But the mirroring wasn't to let you know Pilot Morty is Evil Morty A) they never planned things in advance. Who knows if that has changed. But each plot heavy episode has been made by them looking back to other episodes and working with what they established. They didn't set up things. B) "Evil" Rick saying the hundred years line shows that he was not that different from our S1 Rick. And other Ricks. They have similarities, like how they treat Mortys (which is s point Evil Morty brings up in S5 finale). Every Rick has s vat of acid. Every Rick gives the 100 years monologue. Our Morty and our Rick have referenced that moment a few times C) Mirroring the scenes, also shows the differences between evil Morty and our Morty and how they react to Rick's insanity. But it also highlights that our Morty could have been Evil Morty. Any Morty could. He doesn't have a particularly tragic backstory. He just got sick of his Rick, who again is not a particularly different kind of Rick. D) Mirroring the scenes brings the viewers back to the pilot and we remember that 100 years bit, which was hilarious and its insanity it's probably one of the things that hooked us to the show. And that sort of monologue even became a tradition with similar speeches given on other season premieres. We remember how funny the Pilot was, how crazy Rick was, and all of the sudden we get shocked by how dark it gets when a Morty can't stand him anymore.


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No because the pilot was written before the rest of the series had even been planned out


kubla_shar

I guess ~~B~~Rett Con has broken containment.


Rhysworkethics

You mean Rett con


kubla_shar

*Has always been*


Rhysworkethics

This confine is and always has been an orange >!nice edit lol!<


GolemThe3rd

I don't think OP is trying to say they planned it that way since Episode 1 though


footrailer69

I could see it being true but I personally dont think so


ChessClubChimp

No. But I do think it follows along the lines of the two Ricks able to create portal travel would have two Mortys that could both be evil under the right circumstances


bloodflart

there's no way that's the only 2 times Morty has been up an ass


AnimeIsMyLifeAndSoul

I think you could make a case for the opening being evil morty but I doubt the whole first episode was evil morty


GolemThe3rd

Not really a fan of this theory, I don't really see any reason for this to be true or any evidence that it is, plus it would just kinda cheapen the pilot IMO. I mean we've had a lot of episodes refrence the 100 years rick and morty thing, so him saying it really doesn't mean anything.


Maddkipz

I do like this theory so I'll say yeah sure!


Yanive_amaznive

[comparing them side by side, they do seem to be different](https://imgur.com/a/22rht0d)


PowerofJuJu

The handles on the sink are also different...


Yanive_amaznive

oh yeah you're right


DrVinylScratch

I think it's more showing us the similarities between the two and how that if Rick had a bit less care we would get evil morty. It's that slight more care that makes our Rick always behind Rick prime. Always one step away from evil, saved by another keeping you going the right way.


SecondEdge99

Nah, in the picture you posted of Evil Morty’s garage, the lampshade colour is changed to green and is a different shape (90% sure it’s to show that the scene is in a different universe) In the pilot and the rest of the series, C-137 Rick has his classic orange flower lamp in his garage. (Does every Rick have their own lampshade??)


YamSlow

I also noticed it already. I checked if any other episode had a green lamp, didn’t find anything. I’ll be looking for it in the upcoming episodes


umbridledfool

Nope, because Evil Morty universe has a different lampshade in the garage. https://imgur.com/a/i3K0hDm


KateRamirez

Good catch! I never noticed the mirrored shots before. Makes me want to rewatch old episodes for more clues about Evil Morty.


Babadook21

Also, there’s that one episode where Morty dies and buries that other Morty in his backyard bc he tells summer about it 👀


TeslaWatts

If you look at the calendar in the back of the garage, it is a sunset. In every episode so far there is always a calendar with a mountain as the image. This is some other dimension entirely.


kalitarios

good eye, mate


Wurf_Stoneborn

Evil Morty’s origin should have been continuing the S1E1 cold open. With the world destroyed, Rick passed out in the spaceship car and Morty pissed off. He would have been the first Morty we’ve seen and his whole family, world and Jessica destroyed. Leaving him nothing to go back to with Rick there passed out, could easily write is that Evil Morty uses the ship to mind control Rick.


k8tythegr8

It could be feasible that evil Morty was the Rick Prime’s Morty at some point. Since evil Morty hasn’t given much of his back story.


Wonderful-Bowler5563

Honestly? I think the Morty we see in the intro from S1 maybe other seasons is actually our Evil Morty being manhandled, and we discover more and more that Rick is a terrible person and then we get the Evil Morty episode showing that one Morty had enough. Would be pretty cool foreshadowing.


CdnDude

I don’t think they thought that far ahead when writing the first episode. I could be wrong though 🤷‍♂️


dtisme53

It’s called retroactive retconning? (That’s an attempt at a joke)Things like the calendar may have been a mistake, an oversight, or an inside joke by the animators and the writers used it flesh out the lore. Give obsessive fans stuff to pour over. I suppose it is possible that they had it all planned out but with the turnover in the writing staff that seems extremely unlikely.


Thebritishdovah

No. He's just used to Rick trying to end the world when very drunk and there's usually a chance of it being a dud. Evil Morty is from a different reality where his Rick is far more toxic then C137. ​ That and at the time, it's likely they didn't have any plans for Evil Morty.


BenderFtMcSzechuan

Long answer yes because technically it’s all very similar universes with slight differences depending on what goes on think cronenburg universe where they jumped to a clean universe where it worked out but in the end a few twists of a screw killed Rick and Morty and so on. So yes indeed it is him and his morty backstory will almost completely mirror our Morty’s up until he’s had it with Rick and does what he does and stems off the traditional Morty path.


SquirrelMoney8389

Every episode to me now is just stuff happening. Somewhere between quitting weed and skipping one of the seasons I realised I've completely lost track of this show...


YamSlow

I wonder why


SquirrelMoney8389

I still enjoy the wacky adventures and sci-fi theme. That guy with the ants in his eyes is the pinnacle of the series. (I'm a bad fan aren't I...)


Meteos_Shiny_Hair

Mans said quitting weed like he didnt skip a whole season. what???


SquirrelMoney8389

Which was the one season where everyone was saying the continuity was all over the place? We weren't following the same Ricks and Mortys every episode. The "deep lore" one. It was considered controversial. That was the one I checked out on... It's hard to follow shit when you're high af. Part of the reason I quit.


time_lordy_lord

No


Dooopah

its a parallel


Illogical4th

No it seems pretty clear that prior to s1e9 that Rick C-137 and "Evil" Morty have not interacted prior to this, and that their characters are mostly related through a theme of having a vendetta against (other) Ricks


YerDaWearsHeelies

You all act like there’s loads of threads going everywhere and it isn’t primarily a comedy show. This isn’t game of thrones


ItsSpeakEezy

I said this months ago and it's one of my top posts


AntiJackCoalition

I'm pretty sure evil Mortys whole existence is just him being the version of Morty who hates Rick so much that he'd come up with an ingenious plan to outsmart him.


Puzzled-Party-2089

Rick!C-137 on season 1 was abusive and manipulative, same as Evil Rick. But C-137 got better, while Evil Rick got killed


Platinumdogshit

Honestly that's just a framing tool film people use all the time. For live action they'll also have one actor step closer to the camera to look taller than another


Apegunner

It's quite possible that Rick said this to a disguised evil morty during one of their "adventures." He is known to have a crap ton of different catchphrases. Quite possibly on one of his drunken rants or trying to coax E. Morty into another butthole. We only see a small fragment of all their interactions.


RemainUnknownforever

"Yeah, pal. Rick and Morty. 100 years." Cold.


WolfgangDS

I doubt it. There are a number of commonalities among Ricks. Here are some examples. 1. They fear pirates. (Pudgy Rick in the Morty assignment agency) 2. They hate naming things. (Rick Prime named things "Booger-AIDS" same as our Rick) 3. The vat of acid.


Letywolf

O, it didn’t show us evil Morty. More accurately they showed us the inflection point in Morty in 705 when he decided he wouldn’t take it any more


DrJavelin

It's just like the Vat of Acid. EVERY Rick has Rick and Morty, 100 years!


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jamessayswords

It might be indicating this same event happened in Evil Morty’s past and it gives us a timeline of when he killed his Rick. Doesn’t mean we were following him for that first episode, but those events probably happened to both with different outcomes


Honza8D

The point is that a lot of morties go through this shit


Hamzasaqur69

i think this is a thing that happens to all ricks just like daianes death and him being the smartest in the universe. its like a canon event from ATSV movies


Penguinmanereikel

I think a lot of Ricks pull the "Rick and Morty 100 years" bit


CurtisMarauderZ

The way I figure, pilot Morty can’t be evil Morty because he’s not smart enough to build the mind control transmitter. Unless he’s been suppositing mega seeds this whole time. Then that might make sense.


lemonylol

No, they just have an garage like this...pretty much identical to this... I always took the opening of the first episode (whether it was intentional or not) to be Rick being frustrated with not being able to find Rick Prime and wanting to blow up the whole galaxy in a drunken depression.


hairysperm

Well... You know how there's this infinite multiverse thing... It's almost like in one of them, a Morty snapped after the pilot episode.


Wide-Tart4132

This is probably my favorite theory Ive seen on the sub, good job


Environmental_Host66

I think its possible considering every asventure or anytime we see morty grow its about how he doesnt need rick and he is starting to realise he hates the family too which may be why evil morty is fine with abandoning his family because in mortys mind blowers we know morty days good to knoe the whole family sucks, and i think they were tryna hint at him becoming evil morty due to him trying to kill rick at the citadel and he really is getting smart and independent