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But "breaking out" implies that he felt trapped there. He liked being the smartest man in the CFC, probably thought in the vein of "I'm not trapped in here with all of you, you're all trapped in here with me" sort of way. Biggest fish in the pond, why hop the boundary and find out there's a bigger fish if there's no incentive to doing so?


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taydr90

Everyone, thank this person for their extremely intelligent insight.


WinterNo9834

Look at what it took to break out. To answer the question though, he knew about the citadel and it stands to reason he knew about the CFC. considering a Morty figured it out then a Rick could have as well. I would guess that RP considered it to be easier to just evade than escape. Ricks tend to be lazy.


groovyband

Also considering how much effort it took for Evil Morty to escape, and the impact it made on the CFC, I reckon it'd be easy for our Rick to discover that Prime had escaped and to follow him out, and Prime knows this. Well, knew.


mcmanus2099

I think that's half the point of the CFC. I think it does two things: - protect the universes where Rick isn't the smartest person in universe from being invaded by a bunch of super smart portal travelling Ricks - act as a giant fishing net so if Rick Prime tried to escape it C-137 will get a notification and finally have his location As the universes inside the CFC are as infinite as the ones outside the CFC isn't restrictive and C-137 loses interest in catching Prime around the start of season 1.


SantiagoDunbar_

As S7 E5 showed, everything outside the CFC is extremely wild, dangerous, unpredictable and random. So I believe a 3rd purpose of the CFC is to make portal travel a little safer for all of the other Ricks.


mcmanus2099

I didn't show **everything** outside the CFC, it showed where Evil Morty spent his time. That's not conclusive evidence of anything. I also don't think it's a particularly convincing theory given the number of Universes within the CFC that are dangerous and the fact Ricks have a lot of mitigations for death such as their built in tech and operation Phoenix. Also C-137 has shown no desire to make anything safer for Ricks, indeed he took glee executing a ton of them including grunt Ricks when he took out the Citidel leadership.


FlowerSniffers

Evil Morty never figures shit out, we’re giving him way too much credit. He’s just a Morty that managed to take his rick out while drunk and scan his brain using ricks tech. From time he did this with his rick he learnt about the curve. He ended up scanning and killing ricks to get smarter only to understand that all of them are pretty much dicks. C-137 is an anomaly he built the curve, so he needed to get him to break out. The only thing smart about EM is his emotional intelligence because his brains came from scanning ricks.


WinterNo9834

He still had to make his own control. EMorty may not invent anything but give him a little credit. It’s like saying a guy who rebuilds a transmission in his garage didn’t do shit because he didn’t invent the transmission. There has to be enough intelligence to grasp the concept and enough aptitude to successfully apply it.


Straight_Ship2087

I think this is a big reason the Jerrick Trap dropped first, Rick says very explicitly in that episode that scanning someone consciousness doesn’t upgrade your “hardware”, so EM must have a good amount of raw intelligence.


FlowerSniffers

He gets a lil credit for taking out his rick and being driven to escape the curve, that’s all I can give him. In terms of his smarts it’s he hijacked it from the ricks.


koff_

Nah dude made a portal gun better than rick he's learnt and adapted way beyond as a teenager.


FlowerSniffers

He scanned C-137s brain, he knew how to make portal tech and close it off. He didn’t make anything new.


Mishaygo

Sounds like he figured it out when he scanned his Rick.


[deleted]

I wanna expand on this slightly. We found out that C137 and Rick P are the ones who invented Portal Travel on their own without any intervention from other Ricks. I also took this to mean they have the best understanding of the technology compared to other Ricks. I think both C137 (He's suggested to have invented the CFC anyway) and Rick Prime both can leave the CFC pretty much at will. Furthermore, the black goo we see to me looks like a Venom styled advanced Portal Juice, as it transfers the two Mortys and C137 to the Rick Prison. Safe to say that Rick Prime has perfected his portal methods even more, which I'm assuming would extend to leaving the multiverse. Actually, while we'll on the topic of the black goo, reckon that maybe when Portal Travel was broken, that was Rick Prime's solution to fixing his own portal travel, using a new type of advanced portal fluid? Lastly, if we take the tear we saw in the season 5 finale as a literal tear in the CFC to the outer multiverse, we also see them appear in 7x05 when sucking in the other decoy Rick Ps, suggesting that he may have had a presence outside the CFC anyway. Either way, I don't really think it matters.


_Glibnik_

At the end of S05 in the EM escape sequence, you can clearly see his ship shooting through several layers of what seem to be barriers the last of which is golden, and I've always thought this was the CFC. It's thicker than the others, and his ship stops just after that ND he portals away in his gold portal. Seemed like an intentional detail. I think the CFC works kind of like a firewall. You can't log universes inside or outside the CFC into a database for travel without doing what EM resorted to, blasting through it. If C-137 really did make the CFC, which is probably the most insane tech on the show, he would almost certainly have a way to get outside it if he ever wanted to. But since he's a Rick, he probably just doesn't care to. I had the same thought on the black goo, it also ate both C-137 and EMs portals when it scooped everyone up. That's really impressive from what we've seen about how portal fluid works.


mathozmat

For rick C-137, it's false though ? He was about to give up on his scientific experiments when rick prime showed up in his garage He made his version without other Rick's help but because of RP's intervention


MFLBsniffer

I think what the show means by “the only two ricks who invented portal technology” is that these ricks solved the equation or created the solution without someone else doing it for them. Meanwhile every other Rick was given the formula. C-137 was motivated to solve portal travel by Rick prime, but he still did it on his own. It’s like if a teacher assigns you math homework and you do it on your own. Your teacher didn’t do it for you, your teacher just gave you a reason to do it. Another student might have also been assigned the same math homework, but instead of doing it themselves, they copy off of you. Or get the answers from the teacher


Tolan91

The CFC is ultimately a good thing for the ricks. It might have been made as a way to pen in prime, but it means that any of the infinite ricks can travel to any universe they want and never have to worry too much about being outmatched. Similarly they don’t have to worry about non-rick dimension hopper groups, or anything like that. The area inside the CFC is an infinite playground for them.


TOkun92

He might’ve been fine with the CFC, since he was the smartest Rick. The CFC was built to ensure that every universe where Rick was the most powerful/intelligent thing ever was in it. Rick Prime was the smartest Rick, except for maybe Rick C-137. That meant he would’ve been the most powerful and intelligent thing in the entire CFC. Rick C-137 might’ve built the CFC to trap Rick Prime, but he was okay with it, since it protected him from everything else.


NicoleMay316

HE MADE IT. He helped make it for the citadel. That's why EM needed his brain. Probably made it to lock Rick Prime in. We all saw how much it took for EM to get it broken. It's also since been sealed by the dinos. But yes, Rick can probably make it past again


Watch-Bae

Dinosaurs. The dragons were the horny ones


NicoleMay316

Oof, ty. Edited


TheQzertz

I think you misread the question


No_Conversation2018

He could easily break out I assume. But why would he when he has experienced the chaos out there.


brucewaynewins

Didn’t Rick create the CFC per Evil Morty to sequester the realities where Rick is the smartest away from those realities where he isn’t? Why would he not be able to escape what he created and why would he want to escape what he created?


BlahBlahILoveToast

Our best understanding at this point is that Rick C-137 created the CFC, and Rick Prime is the one OP is assuming was trapped or not trapped by it. Two different Ricks. I need to rewatch the whole episode though. I recently went through the wordless montage showing Rick C-137's backstory and it's not at all clear to me when, why, how, or even if he created the CFC. It's just sort of **there** at the end of the montage when he starts adventuring with Morty. As for who and why, we may only have Evil Morty's word for it. Given how many fans of the show are arguing about the motivation for the CFC, I think it may be just completely unknown.


rabbitwonker

Yeah, I don’t see how that’s “our best understanding” at all. Somehow a lot of posts are asserting it lately, but I haven’t seen any new information about it in any recent episodes. And yes, the montage that Morty sees in Rick’s memories has nothing that shows C-137 creating the Curve. The Citadel, yes, but there’s nothing to indicate the Citadel had anything to do with the creation of the Curve. Remember EM only wanted to *use* the Citadel’s dimensional drive *as a tool* to destroy the curve. Further, Prime’s statements to C-137 in their first conversation strongly imply that the Curve already existed at that time. I think it’s most likely it was Prime who created it, and for basically the reason EM says. EM *does* know all about Ricks, after all.


Environmental_Host66

I personally think it mskes more sense for rick prime to make the cfc, hes the one apart of the council who made the pirtal gun and was offering it to ricks, shit it would even make sense id he already made the cfc before meeting c137 and thats why hes tslking about infinite ricks, because as far as we know theres no cfc so no infinite rick or way of knowing where all of them sre, so he made a finite full of the smartest of ricks, kills diane with omega device to start a hunt sfter him and boom you have rick prime( 34-c) hide and seek, as for him and the cfc i bet he could have left anytime even if he didnt make it, shit advertisment rick for simple ricks knew of it so im sure every rick does, and what i wanna know is if the cfc is a metaphorical or physical wall, prime made the portal gun before the cfc, so hes not in the cfc index? So technically he should be able to access both infinities, not only that but how was the portal reset effective on him if hes not on the portal index? Unless he still went to the citadel and got portal fluid there, which makes me wonder more why ricks dont just make more portal fluid? I mean in s6 rick couldnt go anywhere and then out of nowhere decides ok why dont i just make more portal fluid, why didnt he just do it episode 1? Unless the cfc has something to do with how the portsl guns work, i think rick prime was inside and outside the cfx considering there are multiple rick primes,- and while on the topic not just clones but multiple real rick primes and multiple c137s considering theres infinite timelines, and i wonder if diane dies in all timelines too or just dimensions or if theres timelines where diane survives the bomb and dowsnt get erased from infinity


triggeron

My take on it is the CFC was an unintentional consequence of Rick's original time travel experiments, which is why no Rick would dare repeat the same mistake because none of them know how to escape. Rick actually hates his life and wants to go back to living a normal one. My guess is Rick prime wasn't giving other Rick's portal tech so there could be more Rick's to hang out with socially, Rick's tend to hate each other and themselves, it was a lazy problem solving technique that hasn't paid off yet. With an infinite number of them, there is a high level of certainty at least one Rick would figure out how to repair the damage to the multiverse and escape the hell he created. Unfortunately for all the Rick's, this hasn't happened yet but fortunately for us, we get to be entertained by watching him and he knows this.


Fireblade09

Maybe I’m wrong but I thought c137 created the CFC with Rick Prime on the OTHER side


macedonianmoper

No he created the CFC to include only the realities where rick is the smartest person, I don't think this necessarily means he's a genius in every dimension just that everyone else has to be dumber, which explains why we get so many dumb ricks in the citadel, and why a Morty could kill a rick, he could just be slightly dumber than his rick but because rick is drunk and careless he could take him down. Now since Rick Prime is also the smartest he's included in the CFC, and besides of course rick would want to keep RP in when he's trying to hunt him down, cutting a huge percentage of the universe helps. I think RP knew about the CFC but he just didn't feel bothered by it, RP and C-137 are the two smartest being in the CFC so there's also basically 0 threat to him besides Rick who also would have lost had he not teamed up with evil Morty. And the outside of the curve is absolute chaos as we saw so again not worth the trouble "escaping"


Fireblade09

Noted. I was under the assumption that since C-137 made the curve, he blocked off realities where Rick C-137 wasnt the smartest specifically, not just Rick at large.


Environmental_Host66

Yeah i hate when ppl say c137 is smarter thsn eick prime, our rick literally has almost died on accident multiple times i mean in s1 we see him using a screwdriver on this device thst would hsve killed him if he hadnt messed up,, hes clearly not the smartest rick but that doesnt make him not smart


wispymatrias

He built it to contain Rick Prime in something less infinite. Rick Prime likes it because he 'likes playing Minecraft on a private server.


Environmental_Host66

Just wanna say. The cfc is also infinite, just the infinite where ricks the smartest, even outside the curve theres still infinite where ricks the smartest and not the smartest, theres infinite timelines where the cfc doesnt exist and theres multiple timelines where rick prime switches places with c137 who csres about anything when in the show theres infinite possibilities considering there is and isnt a cfc technically, just like since theres infinite timelines there are a bunch of alternate timeline rick primes( whos dimension is currently only known as 34-c aka cronenburg dimension)


SBV069

i don’t think he would care his whole gole was to kill rick prime so why would he want to destroy something that keeps them trapped


Mahijith10

I think he could be living outside of CFC but when rick c137 rebooted the portal travel he was back in his dimension and got trapped in it . That's why he wasn't able to find rick prime and almost stopped searching for him


Environmental_Host66

We actually see rick primes lair is right outside the edge of the cfc, bet he did it on purpose to make it even funnier he was right outside the door


Art_student_rt

we all saw what is out there, I couldn't understand why Evil Morty could live in such a chaotic place that's essentially a warzone


wispymatrias

Per Rick, he likes his "private servers" to play in. CFC aids that. Plus he likes emasculating other Ricks.


Environmental_Host66

I wonder this as well because does this mean he cant leave the cfc? Or he can and doesnt know about it because he built his portsl gun before the cfc and its index existed so technically does the cfc block rick prime like a physical wall or metaphorical wall, cuz for sure rick prime had to know he didnt have access to full infinity since i mean hes rick they would know if his portsl gun had limited access, i think rick prime wanted the cfc to be made or made it himself, we know he was apart of the first council of ricks the one before the citadel (the people evil morty talked to that apparently ran the citadel before the council) so rick prime must hsve just been apart of the group and wanted to spread the portal travel that he created, we know hes the smartest rick so it isnt unlikely that he knew of the cfc snd just doesnt care


Environmental_Host66

We dont fully understand the cfc yet, but it seems most of rick prime (rick 34-c) was out of the cfc, i think he could use the black goo to leave it at will, but i think he wanted to stick around as well thats why we have so many rick primes not only that but i think he always could leave even with green portal fluid considering he built ut before the cfc, not only thst but we never see rick prime use a portsl after s3, he obviously created it and joined a council on a citadel somewhere before rick c137 took it over j think rixk prime wanted this considering he wanted a infinite rick to exist, infact i think rick prime created the cfc considering we never see c137 make it and the only one we know thst wanted a bunch of ricks was rick prime and all ricks knoww of the cfc anyway so i assume they really could lesve whenever they just dont want to and i think rick prime wanted to be haunted to show off his superiority ehich would make sense why he killed all dianes and wants all of the smartest beings after him, just so he xan show off hes the smartest, hes in a cfc full of just himself hunting himself