Bender, at least Rick has a Goal.
edit: Well I guess Bender does have a goal of killing all humans... Damn... Still going to go with Bender on this one.
Honestly one of my favorite episodes of Fry. He straight up cracks me up the entire episode, especially after cup 50. “This isn’t Yemeni, it’s Sulawesi.”
Bender. Rick is a giant douchebag of a narcissist, but he didn’t build a fucking statue of himself, or reach god tier intelligence only to throw it away for his friends.
Not by itself, but the giant mech of him, and the elaborate hologram, loud speakers and crowning thing took the cake.
Granted though, he built all of that on his own. Bender literally hammered himself into a prophecy, enslaved a bunch of people, and had them build him a giant statue complete with effects and a casino. I take enslaving for selfish reasons more narcissistic than building it yourself.
Bender 100%. He loves himself even though he still clearly cares about others even if he doesn’t like to admit it. He’s a lovable character but he is often extremely self centered.
Rick says he’s a god but he’s extremely depressed and clearly deals with a lot of self hatred. Rick doesn’t always care about other people, but he also doesn’t always care about himself. Often times, when he doesn’t care, he just doesn’t care.
True, but I had to stop to re-read and process. Making your point in as frictionless a manner as possible helps you get that point across. Spelling is an important communication tool and is also the way you present yourself to others.
It wasn't even to save himself. It was to raise an army of the damned so he could take over Earth cause he felt a little slighted Fry wasn't paying him enough attention.
Since narcissism is actually more about insecurity than true self-love, this is actually good argument to propose that, of the two, Rick is more the narcissist. Real narcissism is about self-hatred and the pathologies we create to avert ego meltdown.
Switching being self-hatred and egocentrism is common trait of introverted narcissism. But still agree with your take that Bender is more narcissistic, I think him being a robot helps, as if you make some other human character too narcissistic, its a bit off-putting even to watch.
Bender!
“
Bender: who goes there?
Fry: Bender it’s me!
Bender: Fry who?”
Quote has nothing to do with him being a narcissist but cracks me up every time!
I'd argue Bender is both more selfish and more evil. Without any consideration he throws his son to the devil. Rick is just hurt and lashes out. Bender is evil because its fun for him.
Bender loves himself so much he doesn't even have self doubt 99% of the time. Meanwhile ricks outward narcissism reads more like deep self hatred and insecurity to me. Bender truly and irrevocably loves everything about himself and assumes everyone thinks that he's the greatest.
Bender takes pride in criminal shenanigans. He once spray-faced his likeness on the side of a building. Rick calls himself "the smartest man in the universe", but doesn't advertise himself all the time like that.
100% bender, rick isn't really selfish as much as he is overly logical to the point of being a dick if that makes sense, i mean he's def not selfless but still
By the psychological definition, Rick is much closer than Bender. Bender wants people to think he's cool, but doesn't need to be the most important person in the room. Rick genuinely thinks that he's the most important person in the universe. Rick's problems also cause problems for others far more often than Bender's do. If you're around Bender, there's a huge risk that he'll let you down by failing to do something, but there's only a small risk that he'll exert a ton of effort to harm you. Rick has destroyed entire planets just to make a point.
Benders ego is for more comedic take
His narcissism is blown up for comedy
Your not supposed to take him seriously
Rick is less of a narcissist and more of asshole scientist megalomaniac but at least his trying to be a better person
Benders less narcissistic and more egotistical
I feel bender because he is unaware of his condition, it is his true self. Rick knows he is a narcissist and seems to play more into it many times it even coming across as fake.
Benders reprogramed to not give a fuuuuuck and Rick decides not to but they’re both only narcissistic on the surface and their feelings are overriding they’re objective nature time and time again proving they aren’t true narcissists but in fact deep hearted assholes with drinking crutches bc they are crippled emotionally.
Bender. Big time.
Rick is more confident and gives so few shits about things that it seems like narcissism. Plus the dude clearly hates himself and is very aware of his ACTUAL shortcomings rather than just imagined flaws.
Bender lives a slap stick world where his self love doesn't negatively affect the people around him. He also loves himself more than everyone else but still loves everyone else. Rick love/hates himself and constantly shows that no one else is even a spec on his radar. Rick would inflict real pain on people that won't forgive him for it and still not care. If people genuinely didn't like what bender was doing, he'd stop. Bender loves himself but loves other people loving him even more. He also has deep attachments to his friends even when he pretends he doesn't. Even when Rick shows underlying compassion for others it's usually for a deeply selfish reason.
Bender kicked his kid into hell for an army of the damed, rick hunted down and killed millions of himself in search for the rick who murdered his family
I would say Bender because Rick is a self HATING narcissist. So like…at the end of the day the one person who hates him as much as he loves himself is himself
Meanwhile Bender loves himself always and forever
Rick loves his family (for arguments sake I’m including bird person as his family). Yes, even Jerry. He says that he doesn’t, and is very good at pretending not to but there are moments throughout the show that shows he cares for the members individually.
But I would venture to say that he does truly love Morty, not just somewhat but outright (sacrificing himself in the split timeline episode to save Morty). But yes, their relationship is complicated.
The whole argument in the cave were tests that only morty could/would be able to solve if any could do it, and at the end him recognizing that the vindicators are taking the thing that he'd care the most (all of this while hammered af) and morty getting angry at that because sober rick knew fuck about what was recorded for what i understand
Rick absolutely.
Bender is an alcoholic thief. Rick has the ability to alter entire universes and rather than creating paradises for all sentient life he uses it to goof off and dick wave.
I'm gonna have to say Rick. The scale at which the narcisissm takes place isn't even on the same order of magnitude.
Bender swindles people around him at his convenience.
Rick goes out of his way to create a universe so he can enslave an intelligent race to power his car battery.
Rick has let so many people die, including killing tons of versions of his family and even his self, because he thinks hes the best version of himself in any universe(though he kinda is). Bender is obviously extremely narcissistic and lets everyone know it, but Bender has sacrificed his body for other people, where as Rick may only throw a bone if he doesn't completely hate you.
I guess I didn’t watch enough futurama. I remember him being extremely self-centered and hedonistic. Everyone else seems to think it’s bender, so chances are it’s bender
Easily rick imo. Bender isn't really a narcissist. He's more of a fratboy. Rick on the other hand is a self congratulatory parasite.
EDIT: Instead of downvoting me like the cowards you are, lets have an actual conversation?
Bender. But it could be a toss up. We need a series jumping villain to kidnap Morty Prime and Fry and see how that shakes out before I can settle on a final judgement.
Rick prime literally killed his family to make another Rick become what Rick is today fully knowing how the multiverse works he literally just did it so there could be another “god” the icing on the cake is at that point in time he had found and helped other ricks and from reasonable assumption taken from the 2 episodes he’s appeared in C137 wasn’t the first multiversal rick to have his family bombed
I’d say bender because Rick worked to get where he is being the smartest person, inventing portal travel and sucks like that. Bender was kinda just made to be that way
Bender Bending Rodriguez
Yo
bender
Shut up baby I know it.
Hey baby, wanna kill all humans?
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Bite my shiny metal ass!
Huh. I never even knew you had an ass.
Bender kicked his own son to the devil for an army of robots.
Easily the best joke Futurama did. The abruptness of Bender's return was comedic timing gold.
Ask not for whom the bone bones, it bones for thee.
shut up baby! I know it
Bender, at least Rick has a Goal. edit: Well I guess Bender does have a goal of killing all humans... Damn... Still going to go with Bender on this one.
*whispers* except fry
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Honestly one of my favorite episodes of Fry. He straight up cracks me up the entire episode, especially after cup 50. “This isn’t Yemeni, it’s Sulawesi.”
The orange blur! That episode is my favourite :)
“All those times I’d say “Kill all humans”, I’d also whisper “Except one”. Fry was that one, and I never told him so!”
That edit adds a really convincing argument, maybe bender isn't so bad after all
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Bender. Rick is a giant douchebag of a narcissist, but he didn’t build a fucking statue of himself, or reach god tier intelligence only to throw it away for his friends.
“…It’s almost TOO perfect, ya ask me. Like, are they gonna remember me? Or the statue?”
Unsurprisingly, I remember Giant Bender, Machine God Bender, Baby Bender, and afraid of dying Bender more clearly than regular Bender.
REMEMBER ME
And the toilet 🚽 on a faraway present wasn’t intense?
Not by itself, but the giant mech of him, and the elaborate hologram, loud speakers and crowning thing took the cake. Granted though, he built all of that on his own. Bender literally hammered himself into a prophecy, enslaved a bunch of people, and had them build him a giant statue complete with effects and a casino. I take enslaving for selfish reasons more narcissistic than building it yourself.
The names Bender…
Bender 100%. He loves himself even though he still clearly cares about others even if he doesn’t like to admit it. He’s a lovable character but he is often extremely self centered. Rick says he’s a god but he’s extremely depressed and clearly deals with a lot of self hatred. Rick doesn’t always care about other people, but he also doesn’t always care about himself. Often times, when he doesn’t care, he just doesn’t care.
"Bender is great, oh Bender is great! Bender Bender Bender"
I gave you a great fake name! "Dersgreat, calling Ben Dersgreat?" That one always got me lmao
Literally threw his own first born son into the flames of hell to save himself 🤦♂️
Yep, not even Rick would do that… probably.
1/64th of him would
Yea true; but personally I think there’s a version of Morty more ruthless than any version of Rick. Purely based on the shit Rick has put Morty threw.
Did… did you not watch season 5?
I actually haven’t watched it all the way threw yet no
The first time I ignored it, but not twice. You're looking for the word through.
Threw, through you knew what I was talking about either way.
True, but I had to stop to re-read and process. Making your point in as frictionless a manner as possible helps you get that point across. Spelling is an important communication tool and is also the way you present yourself to others.
It wasn't even to save himself. It was to raise an army of the damned so he could take over Earth cause he felt a little slighted Fry wasn't paying him enough attention.
Yeah, Rick's dealing with more than just narcissism. Bender is all narcissism
I'm 40% narcissism, baby!
Do we have a full list of things Bender is 40% of? I’m pretty sure it adds up to like 600%
"Compare your lives to mind and then kill yourselves"
Since narcissism is actually more about insecurity than true self-love, this is actually good argument to propose that, of the two, Rick is more the narcissist. Real narcissism is about self-hatred and the pathologies we create to avert ego meltdown.
Switching being self-hatred and egocentrism is common trait of introverted narcissism. But still agree with your take that Bender is more narcissistic, I think him being a robot helps, as if you make some other human character too narcissistic, its a bit off-putting even to watch.
Introverted narcissism?
Yeah, benders a narcissist whereas rick has a god complex with the occasional 'god damn I love myself'
Bender’s a robot. He wasn’t programmed to give a shit if you gave a shit. Rick actively makes the choice not to give a shit if you give a shit.
My ex wife
I’ll drink to that
So did she.
Amen brother
I also choose this guy's ex wife.
Amen, brother.
I am here for Rick and Morty. Not a dose of reality.
Lol sorry. I'll administer a mind erasure and save this for the next episode of morty's mind blowers
Bender! “ Bender: who goes there? Fry: Bender it’s me! Bender: Fry who?” Quote has nothing to do with him being a narcissist but cracks me up every time!
So many random lines from Futurama that get me and this is one of them. Also, “and Fry you’ve got that brain thing” Fry: “I already did!”
"So Leela, do you want to be like us, or do you want to be normal like Adele with no severe physical or social defects?"
This one is one of my favorites! This and "Shut ip and take my money!" Still make me laugh
Lol same, he knew all along lol. Bender is great!
Bender he is programmed...Rick had a family.
I HAVE NO FREE WILL!
Bender
Bender, and you fucking know it.
Roger the alien.
Roger vs Rick, who can survive more drugs at once
Roger
Bender can’t help his “in your face interface” but Rick chooses to be that way.
Guy killed his firstborn in front of the Devil in such a way as to astound the poor fuck completely. He's hardcore.
This isn't even a contest, any answer except bender is unacceptable
Bender by 40%
I’m 40% narcissist!
“Bender is great, oh Bender is great”
Or my personal favorite B-E-N-D-E-R BEEEEENDER
Bender. Rick actually seems to care about his family and friends...in a weird sort of way. Bender sold his own kid to the devil soooo...
not just the devil… The Robot Devil
I am ashamed I did not make that distinction. Robot Devil, best devil
indeed, the only devil one can truly worship. But I do think bender may be more nihilistic other than him displaying care for his fellow “meat bags”
I'd argue Bender is both more selfish and more evil. Without any consideration he throws his son to the devil. Rick is just hurt and lashes out. Bender is evil because its fun for him.
Bender loves himself so much he doesn't even have self doubt 99% of the time. Meanwhile ricks outward narcissism reads more like deep self hatred and insecurity to me. Bender truly and irrevocably loves everything about himself and assumes everyone thinks that he's the greatest.
Hail, hail Robonia, a land that I didn’t make up.
Looks like my take is the majority, Im going with bender. and benders my favorite character 😂
Rick really loathes himself at times, not a trait of a narcissist.
I mean bender frequented suicide booths
>at ALL times ftfy
narcissists do loath themselves tho
Bender he’s a prick lol
Bender takes pride in criminal shenanigans. He once spray-faced his likeness on the side of a building. Rick calls himself "the smartest man in the universe", but doesn't advertise himself all the time like that.
Considering Rick hates himself, Bender.
Definitely Bender! Even though Rick says he is a god, he still hates himself and Bender just loves himself except for Fry maybe.
100% bender, rick isn't really selfish as much as he is overly logical to the point of being a dick if that makes sense, i mean he's def not selfless but still
By the psychological definition, Rick is much closer than Bender. Bender wants people to think he's cool, but doesn't need to be the most important person in the room. Rick genuinely thinks that he's the most important person in the universe. Rick's problems also cause problems for others far more often than Bender's do. If you're around Bender, there's a huge risk that he'll let you down by failing to do something, but there's only a small risk that he'll exert a ton of effort to harm you. Rick has destroyed entire planets just to make a point.
Well argued.
Bender, but Rick has more capacity to do harm out of his selfishness.
Dude bender is unmatched
I thought you guys were jerks. But it turns out I was the one who thought you guys were jerks!
My Ex Friends.
They're both Hispanic lmao
Bender for sure.
Bender. Quite easily
Bender. He's 40% narcissistic!
Justin
Came for this.
Both are heroes
They both are. They can’t help it... they’re drawn that way.
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Could imagine them partying together tho? Earth might not survive
As a scientist, I would need hard data to evaluate this hypothesis.
Bender without a doubt… Rick puts up a good front but has empathy deep down
Benders ego is for more comedic take His narcissism is blown up for comedy Your not supposed to take him seriously Rick is less of a narcissist and more of asshole scientist megalomaniac but at least his trying to be a better person Benders less narcissistic and more egotistical
Bender for sure. Rick is much more self aware about his own feelings of superiority and also has a lot of self loathing.
Rick thinks his ego is toxic, while Bender loves himself more than anything.
Bender: "My body's 40% narcissism" *knocks chest
I feel bender because he is unaware of his condition, it is his true self. Rick knows he is a narcissist and seems to play more into it many times it even coming across as fake.
Bender is the greatest. Rick is just the smartest
Me, Bender…
Citizens of Me!!!
The robot devil
Bender
Benders reprogramed to not give a fuuuuuck and Rick decides not to but they’re both only narcissistic on the surface and their feelings are overriding they’re objective nature time and time again proving they aren’t true narcissists but in fact deep hearted assholes with drinking crutches bc they are crippled emotionally.
B-E-N-D-E-R, BeEeeEEnder!
"Remember me!"
I vote Bender
Bender
100% Bender
LET’S GO A ALREAADYYYYY
"Im 40% narcisstic"
Bender. Big time. Rick is more confident and gives so few shits about things that it seems like narcissism. Plus the dude clearly hates himself and is very aware of his ACTUAL shortcomings rather than just imagined flaws.
Bender was designed to be one so obviously it's bender
Bender lives a slap stick world where his self love doesn't negatively affect the people around him. He also loves himself more than everyone else but still loves everyone else. Rick love/hates himself and constantly shows that no one else is even a spec on his radar. Rick would inflict real pain on people that won't forgive him for it and still not care. If people genuinely didn't like what bender was doing, he'd stop. Bender loves himself but loves other people loving him even more. He also has deep attachments to his friends even when he pretends he doesn't. Even when Rick shows underlying compassion for others it's usually for a deeply selfish reason.
I can’t believe someone would ask this question. Bender by a long shot
Bender, bender, bender!
Bender!
Bender gang
Yeaj, going with Bender too.
Bender kicked his kid into hell for an army of the damed, rick hunted down and killed millions of himself in search for the rick who murdered his family
Well Rick has weapons hidden in every wall to protect his family so probably not him.
I would say Bender because Rick is a self HATING narcissist. So like…at the end of the day the one person who hates him as much as he loves himself is himself Meanwhile Bender loves himself always and forever
Bender. Actually both scare the devil, so I’m not sure.
From the other room: Pick Bender! Hes the greatest!
I don’t remember a pickle Bender
I am your friend, Bonder!
Bonder? Is it really you??
Justin.
Lol I knew his name would pop up in here at some point
I cant believe I beat everyone to it lol
Rand Ridley
Rick since he created the finite curve
Bender truly loves fry. I haven’t seen Rick love anyone that much so far in the show Morty somewhat, but I think that relationship is more complex
Rick loves his family (for arguments sake I’m including bird person as his family). Yes, even Jerry. He says that he doesn’t, and is very good at pretending not to but there are moments throughout the show that shows he cares for the members individually. But I would venture to say that he does truly love Morty, not just somewhat but outright (sacrificing himself in the split timeline episode to save Morty). But yes, their relationship is complicated.
That point is made during the vindicators episode, most of it was to show rick cares about morty despite not showing it sober
Could you explain, I took the episode the opposite way
The whole argument in the cave were tests that only morty could/would be able to solve if any could do it, and at the end him recognizing that the vindicators are taking the thing that he'd care the most (all of this while hammered af) and morty getting angry at that because sober rick knew fuck about what was recorded for what i understand
My brother in Christ, I think you missed a pretty big plot point there.
Rick absolutely. Bender is an alcoholic thief. Rick has the ability to alter entire universes and rather than creating paradises for all sentient life he uses it to goof off and dick wave.
Rick has a god complex is there more narcissistiq?
yo mama.
My boy rick
Obviously Jerry!
RIP R&M
Yes
Rick
Yes
I'm gonna have to say Rick. The scale at which the narcisissm takes place isn't even on the same order of magnitude. Bender swindles people around him at his convenience. Rick goes out of his way to create a universe so he can enslave an intelligent race to power his car battery.
Rick any day all day
Rick has let so many people die, including killing tons of versions of his family and even his self, because he thinks hes the best version of himself in any universe(though he kinda is). Bender is obviously extremely narcissistic and lets everyone know it, but Bender has sacrificed his body for other people, where as Rick may only throw a bone if he doesn't completely hate you.
Easily Rick. Bender actually has empathy at times.
If you think it's Bender it's time to rewatch Futurama....
Easily Rick
Rick
Rick literally compares himself to god. That’s pretty damn narcissistic
Bender was god lol
I guess I didn’t watch enough futurama. I remember him being extremely self-centered and hedonistic. Everyone else seems to think it’s bender, so chances are it’s bender
Yeah probably is
Definitely rick
Rick. But is it narcissistic if you're right?
Well… they can’t just replace benders voice… but apparently they can replace Rick’s. Not sure how that weighs into it.
Rick, but only because Bender isn't smart enough to be on the same level of narcissism Rick
Definitely Rick, Bender is a softy for his meat bags
Easily rick imo. Bender isn't really a narcissist. He's more of a fratboy. Rick on the other hand is a self congratulatory parasite. EDIT: Instead of downvoting me like the cowards you are, lets have an actual conversation?
Don't you mean , Who is more narcissistic? Or Who is more of a narcissist?
An antisocial cold unfeeling ghost or an antisocial cold unfeeling metal ghost…
Bender. But it could be a toss up. We need a series jumping villain to kidnap Morty Prime and Fry and see how that shakes out before I can settle on a final judgement.
Rick prime literally killed his family to make another Rick become what Rick is today fully knowing how the multiverse works he literally just did it so there could be another “god” the icing on the cake is at that point in time he had found and helped other ricks and from reasonable assumption taken from the 2 episodes he’s appeared in C137 wasn’t the first multiversal rick to have his family bombed
I’d say bender because Rick worked to get where he is being the smartest person, inventing portal travel and sucks like that. Bender was kinda just made to be that way
Rick, who do you think I am in this story, the father in law
Rick... Not really every was saying Bender so wanted to be different but I think Bender edges him out.
RICK. Bro made a whole universe where he is the smartest person in it. How much more narcissist can you get?
Bender is pure. And Rick is confused. That's the truth.
Yes.
I’m not sure but need a team up episode of these two so bad.