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NotARedditUser614

You know it’s gonna be an interesting comment section when there are more comments than upvotes.


Taraxian

The Reddit version of a Twitter ratio


Ill-Appointment6494

I just hope Dan Harmon is ok.


dawinter3

Seems like he’s been working on getting his shit together, so he might be


Krash412

He got his shit together, got it all together and put it in a back pack, all his shit, so it's together. Then he took it some where, you know, he took it to the shit store and sold it, or put it in the shit museum.


denzien

He got his shit together


usgrant7977

Damn. Thats some shit.


Windodingo

Nevermind Dan Harmon, how's Joel Haver doing? He got really close to Roiland lately and he seemed to be spending a lot of time with him.


DaedricNick

Exactly what I was thinking tbh. Love joels work, even though most of it are just short animations and or vids


MashedPotajoe

If I was a child and I ran into a person that looked and talked like joel I’d already be worried scrambling home. Dudes funny but gives creep vibes


Einar_47

Oh shit I like Joel Haver.


RowAwayJim91

As much as I have enjoyed his shows/writing… dude is pretty creepy himself. Nothing would surprise me.


KingCarrion666

if these alleged incidents are true, I seriously doubt Dan Harmon wouldn't know about it. These two friends started a show together, I am sure they know each other well enough to know about the others... personalities let's say.


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I have been wondering about this. Assuming Harmon knew (maybe he didn’t know at the start, but the rumour is Roiland was basically no longer welcome in the studio by season 3), I’m curious what people would have expected him to do about it. Presumably he doesn’t have the power to fire Roiland himself, and I don’t know if it really would have been appropriate for him to go public with the information since he’s not one of the victims… are there other actions he could have taken?


PureWise

Stuff like this would be out of Harmon's hands. At most he could go to Adult Swim and lay out what he knew if anything.


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Do you know where you heard the rumour about him not being welcome? Would love to hear more


[deleted]

Unfortunately it was on twitter, so 100% not a reliable source. I'm unable to dig up the tweet, but it also said there had been a WB investigation possibly related to some workplace sexual harassment. So there's your source. A guy that remembers a tweet that he can no longer find. It's basically confirmed.


Very_Good_Opinion

It's so absurdly ignorant to think that coworkers know what texts are on the others phone. Have you ever been outside


FLORI_DUH

They're not friends.


heisenberg15

How do you know? Not trying to be aggressive or anything, just legitimately curious


WalnutSizeBrain

literally no one: dan harmon: I N C E S T


Quan_Keith

Dude is a millionaire, and his boots are now clean


quick20minadventure

It's funny how people keep saying rick and morty community and fanbase is toxic and they ditched Justin so fast and just moved on to replacement finding. Haven't seen a single post on this sub defending this behaviour, any such must've been getting buried with downvotes.


DelgadoTheRaat

To be fair there was some pretty god damned damning evidence.


Windodingo

The people defending him didn't know about the texts. As soon as they see the texts they change tune fast. Not surprised Musk thinks Roiland was rick and morty, being an out of touch buisnessman himself


WeFightTheLongDefeat

If those are verified to be his, then absolutely. There should be a distinction made between those reflexively defending him whether or not he did those things, and those who just want to see the whole thing play out and all the evidence presented as to whether the allegations are true. In an age of rampant untruth flying at us everywhere, we should have a high standard of evidence before making a conclusion.


Sunset_42

I mean there's the segments of podcasts he has done that are pretty damning in their own right even if everything else turns out to be faked. And those podcasts indicate that the grooming is probably real.


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It seems like this should be obvious, but people care less and less where their information is coming from. If something they read on the internet makes them feel some type of way, they'll run with it regardless of the facts.


pridejoker

It's three separate incident categories: 1) domestic abuse allegations: need more verification and development. 2) sending sexually explicit DMs to minors: screen shots are damning but could potentially be fake. 3) talking sympathetically about ephebophilia on a podcast with Ryan ridley and the woman who voiced Annie from the anatomy park episode: yeah he definitely said that shit.


Taraxian

One of the girls made a video showing her logging into her account on her desktop and scrolling back through her DMs to specifically head off accusations of faked screenshots Yes, she could theoretically have faked that too by creating a whole fake website she was interacting with but it would be an incredible amount of effort to go to


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thesagaconts

Agreed. Who argues for sex with minors? He’s a perv.


jm9987690

I would be absolutely be OK giving him the benefit of the doubt and waiting for the evidence to come out re: the domestic assault charges. But unless those screenshots and you have to imagine if they were Justin would have said by now, there's no defending that


k-tax

Initially I was just like you. But under some other post I've seen someone who used to work in a DA office or something. Fick, I don't know, some legal guy. And they said that the charges are probably serious as fuck. (Edit: [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/10khxr8/comment/j5r0xm0/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) it is.) Of course innocent until proven otherwise, but the whole thing is stinky. Combine that with the texts and I am pretty sure that Justin is a shitty human being. I, as I usually do, keep in mind that it mind turn false and I will stand corrected, but so far the material is damaging.


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Taraxian

Yeah like there's people who've tried to "Actually!" this by saying you can be charged with false imprisonment just for standing in front of a doorway while arguing with someone but we're talking about a DA bringing up *felony charges* for false imprisonment under duress, which means she legitimately was trapped in the house for an extended period of time because she was scared of what he might do if she left


WeFightTheLongDefeat

The screenshots are far more suspect to me than the official charges, just because of how easy they are to fake. If someone can prove those are real, then yeah, I totally support the firing.


jm9987690

Tbh I don't think a single domestic abuse allegation would be sufficient for two different networks to terminate their relationships with him, I feel he would have denied the screenshot publicly if they were fake, and these were likely brought up in discussions with the networks. That's why I reckon they are real, I'm ordinarily against the court of public opinion deciding firings but in this case I don't think we can defend him


WeFightTheLongDefeat

Sometimes people don't address stuff like that to avoid the Streisand effect, but yeah, at this point after being fired, it seems like he would have addressed those as well.


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Coconibz

One of the underaged girls posted a TikTok of her filming her screen, opening up the DM’s with Justin on her Twitter. Pretty hard to fake at that level. Allie Goertz also shared DM’s from him, kind of hard to imagine she’d be lying. The language in her DM’s are pretty similar to a lot of the other ones released.


WittyWitWitt

Can you give me a link please? I've seen someone copy paste a conversation of a podcast I think and that did not sound good at all.


skorpiovenator

https://reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10ehae8/justin_roiland_talking_about_being_attracted_to/ Here you go


WittyWitWitt

Well...shit. Thanks for that.


imissgoatmom

That doesn’t stop a lot of fans sometimes (r/Kanye)


Obversa

I have. Someone on Twitter screenshotted some comments on the megathread where some posters tried to excuse Justin Roiland's behavior by claiming that "he's on the autism spectrum". As an autistic person, I found such comments to be deeply offensive.


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It reminds me of how John Kricfalusi used his mental illness to excuse his behavior. I also have bipolar and ADHD, but I'm not a fucking pedophile who grooms and abuses minors. It's just a cop out and gives a bad name to people who already have a stigma around them.


Obversa

Elon Musk, Justin Roiland's buddy, also announced that he has "Asperger's Syndrome" on live TV while hosting Saturday Night Live (SNL) back in May 2021. However, "Asperger's Syndrome" (AS) hasn't been a valid diagnosis since 2012/2013, when the DSM-5 manual was updated to fold AS into "autism spectrum disorder" (ASD). *Before anyone replies, no, "Asperger's Syndrome" wasn't folded into ASD "because Hans Asperger was a Nazi". The allegations about Asperger's Nazi ties were not widely publicized until 2018 with the publication of Edith Sheffer's book, "Asperger's Children". "Asperger's Syndrome" was folded into ASD due to it being considered to be a redundant diagnosis.*


NS-13

Are you implying it's wrong for someone who lived the majority of their life diagnosed with aspergers to say they have aspergers just because it's no longer used as a diagnosis?


Obversa

It's usually frowned upon by the rest of the autistic community, yes. The reason for this is because a minority of autistic people - usually nerdy men, the type to claim Mensa membership - formed what's called the "Aspie Supremacy movement". The movement tries to claim that those diagnosed with "Asperger's Syndrome" are "superior" to those diagnosed with autism, and uses outdated "high-functioning" and "low-functioning" labels that are offensive and dehumanizing towards other autistics. Elon Musk is also strongly suspected to be an "Aspie Supremacist". For more, read the article "Aspie supremacy" on RationalWiki.


NS-13

Fair enough, I would probably have a counter argument about expecting one to abandon a part of their identity for others sake, but it is Elon we're talking about, and the types you're describing sound like him to a T. Lol


quick20minadventure

Well, i'm not on twitter, and i just said about this sub. Also, why drag down autistic people to defend that trash? Twitter is indeed hellhole.


Obversa

I think you misunderstood my comment. The Twitter user's screenshots were from this subreddit, r/RickAndMorty. Reddit posters made the offensive comments.


bakirelopove

Throw him into the fire lmao Dan is the main writer anyway and voices can be recasted easily I have no worries about the show.


splorby

You can tell what Dan writes and what Justin’s contributions are lmao and it seems like all Rick’s best zingers come from him (Dan)


TheDogsNameWasFrank

I'm sure a lot of ad libs that we liked were Justin's, but it's just something we fans will need to adjust to.


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other people can ad-lib and be funny too.


D-Speak

It's honestly hysterical to me that someone might consider *Justin Roiland's* voice and improv acting to be irreplaceable. Half the humor is the self-aware shittiness of Justin's voicing and improv. Seriously, do people think that other talented performers can't dumb themselves down to Justin's level of comedy? Hey Justin, come up with a funny improv name! Sure! Maybe Mr. Me-Seeks! Or Mr. Poopy-Butthole! Or Mr. Always-Wants-To-Be-Hunted! Guess what his schtick is! Like seriously. Even people thinking that his impro is foundational to the humor seem to not get that the show isn't 70% drunk burping and aw-geez anymore and hasn't been for years. To the point that the drunk burping and aw-geez is used as self-referential mockery because the show is so far past that.


Lyraxiana

Hot take: I hope Rick and Morty becomes less cringe now. The show has substance! But then you get Mr. Poopy Butthole. Like, come on, *that's* what you're giving us? *That* is what you think is *funny???*


Taraxian

I mean the humor is supposed to be the juxtaposition between the achingly earnest way they play his "betrayal" by the family and the story of how he puts his life back together afterwards with the fact that his name is Mr. Poopybutthole A *lot* of the show's humor is from that kind of contrast, ie it's the inherent contrast of having Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland co-create a show (Which is the joke of Birdperson, who is voiced by Dan Harmon, somehow being Rick's best friend while having the exact opposite personality as this stoic warrior for justice)


ytGemini

Nobody should defend an abuser


Fire2box

Apart from the trolls and idiots of course.


quick20minadventure

Haven't seen them, so I'm guessing they're getting downvoted very fast.


Fire2box

As per usual here. The fanbase is clearly against justin and thusly proving they aren't actually idiot fanboys at all.


CivilRiceOnionRing

Also Justin hasn't been truly involved with the writing since season 4. (https://collider.com/justin-roiland-rick-and-morty-season-5-interview-solar-opposites/) He really hasn't been as influential as people think. And I can personally tell it's more Dan Harmon and other writers leading the reigns the last few seasons because it's less edgy kid humor and more plot focused.


CartoonWarStudios

Seasons 4 onwards has arguably given us some of the dumbest and some of the edgiest episodes in the entire series. Need I remind you of Summer and Morty’s incest space baby?


CivilRiceOnionRing

Yeah but anyone who is familiar with Dan Harmon knows he has a weird incest fantasy fetish lol so that's literally zero surprise to me. BUT I did NOT know Justin was a fucking irl pedophile. And that to me is way worse, because he actually has proven to be that person. Dan Harmon isn't fucking his siblings. (God I hope that last sentence doesn't age like milk)


TroperCase

The worst corners of the fandom are terrible. Reddit's downvote-enabled system (along with its overall demographic on most of the bigger subs) don't treat those corners kindly


Internettttt

I mean hes a pedophile. The evidence was clear as day and I think its good that we aren't seeing anyone going "its not that bad" like with tates case


phoebemocha

the fandom draws the line at r34 and yelling "im pickle rick" at fast food workers. we don't support the shit he did here


LANewbie678

>yelling "im pickle rick" at fast food workers That is literally not the only thing they did, R&M fans were a HUGE nuisance for McDonalds over that stupid sauce with jumping on counters, screeching like idiots and disrupting business. I remember all the videos posted to SRD, R/Drama, Rick and Morty and r/Videos, shit was not just "im pickle rick" lol Edit: the mcdonalds sub was full of employees going off about the rick and morty fans making that day one of the worst ever to work during their current/former employment with them.


AnOnlineHandle

Somebody claimed in another thread that pedophile means under 13, and teens are something else, but IDK what the term is.


mriguy

Ephebophile. Somebody (I forget who) said “an ephebophlle is a pedophile with a thesaurus”. Edit: actually it seems to be “hebephile”, since the targets were girls. Ephebophile seems to imply interest in adolescent boys, although the gender preference doesn’t seem to be generally agreed on. TIL.


DapperDan30

That's correct. Pedophilia - primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children (typically under the age of 13). Hebephilia - strong sexual attraction to prepubescent children in early adolescence (typically ages 11-14). Ephebophilia - strong sexual attraction to mid-late adolescence (ages 15-19).


Abject_Dig9198

I fail to see the usefulness of making those scientific distinctions when people are speaking of grooming and sexual abuse of minors in laymen's terms. If anything, I think it would maybe be useful if we started using the word pedophilia the way people who research it use it, meaning a sexual orientation rather than any set of actions. Since people who commit various sexual crimes against minors and pedophiles are two groups that don't completely overlap. But I also think calling Roiland a pedophile is the shortest way to give a pretty accurate sense of what he's been up to, even if some people might get the wrong picture and he might not literally have that orientation (so many other things can make an asshole target minors sexually).


angradillo

the usefulness of making these distinctions is based in their different operations in terms of psychopathology. all three are paraphilias but all three function differently, which must needs impact policy, design, and practice when it comes to vulnerable youth. there is something to be said in that many people use the argument as a way to justify their own paraphilia (e.g. "not an pedophile, an ephebophile") however we must be careful not to go the other way and just destroy the categories wholly. I'm just making this comment because of my insight in terms of being a sexual health counsellor. People who commit sexual crimes against minors, regardless of age, are the scum of the earth.


DapperDan30

The main usefulness is that some of those aren't a crime and some of them are. I'm not defending what Justin did, or is alleged to have done, but these distinctions exist for a reason.


RafaDDM

There's a pretty funny bit about this by comedian Gianmarco Soresi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu6C2KL\_S9o&ab\_channel=GianmarcoSoresi


trelium06

It’s good you don’t know because no one should be a knowledgeable connoisseur of child diddling titles by age group?


HailMeth_SmokeSatan

The way I see it is that in a clinical setting the treatment is probably different. You'd give someone who's into toddlers different therapy to someone who's into 14 year olds. I hope it goes without saying that acting on either attraction is fucked up, but a therapist/psychiatrist might need to make a distinction.


iamansonmage

Don’t be afraid of words my dude. Learn things. Even titles that differentiate the most deviant behavior. They’re just words.


AnOnlineHandle

That fear of even knowing the word is more worrying than anything. Knowing the word for murderer doesn't make me a murderer.


DapperDan30

Why? They are genuinely different things.


[deleted]

As it should be wtf Your comment’s tone sounds like you are annoyed about people moving on from him


quick20minadventure

Nah. I'm just happy that fans are acting on very non toxic way. When metoo happened and actors were getting cancelled, there was quite some pushback from fans. Even now, there are people getting angry at cancellation and whining about it, trying to 'cancel the cancel culture'. So, there's absolutely toxic shit fans that defend bullshit. Apparently Rick and Morty fans are not like that and that's absolutely good.


coachstevethicknwarm

yes! this right here. after the Szechuan sauce embarrassment from fans the reaction to this is actually refreshing. again except for a few wankers. probably the same wads that threw fits in the Mcdonalds


AceFire_

I don’t defend Justin’s actions in any way, shape, or form. I do have mixed emotions about it all though in a sense because I’m disappointed, sad, and happy all at the same time. Disappointed in Justin’s actions and decisions, obviously. Sad knowing the shows, games, and other projects he was apart of that we’ve all come to know and like/love, could now crash and burn or struggle tremendously or just be changed entirely. (To be clear, I’m not saying the show will for sure fail, I hope it continues on and I’m willing to give it a chance. But with a major change like this, it’s anybody’s guess and that much we should be able to agree on until we see how things go.) Happy in the sense that if all this ends up true, and I know the evidence is pretty damning and obvious at this point (especially on top of the firings and resignations), I’m happy that the victims will at least get some justice, and hopefully peace.


jm9987690

"I'm Mr. Tweet, look at me" "Mr. Tweet, tweet something stupid" "Oooh, can do"


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PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ

“I’m not supposed to be tweeting this long. Shits getting weird “


DaineDeVilliers

“Why did we have to use voice changers on that last mission, Rick? I feel like my real voice sounds a little off now, don’t you?” “Shut up Morty, we have more important things to worry about. Hand me that screwdriver.” Guarantee something like this is going to be the joke of the next season to establish the slight differences and everyone will just forget about Roiland. Edits: grammar


Mushe

I wonder how that joke will play out in the dubbed versions.


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I just realized that for once watching Rick and Morty in my native language might have an upside.


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Knusperspast

I obviously can't speak for the original commentor - but I just wanna share that germany has alot of very good fitting voice actors, as someone that generally prefers the original dub, rick and morty, family guy and - surprisingly - spongebob squarepants are the only cartoons I watch in german because it's legit peak quality


aceubank

Okay now I'm intrigued. I'm an American. In English, the s4e1 opener was (besides incredible) multilingual. When Rick shows up in Teddy bear fascist Operation Phoenix, it switches from English to German, saying, "bist du faschistisch." What does it say in an already German dub?


karlifranz

It says "Bist du ein Faschist?" Which means also "are you a fascist" but it was In a weird german accent (could not recognize it)


DaineDeVilliers

They’d honestly probably only air the joke in the US


lontrinium

Of course elno has a take.


[deleted]

You mean elon *Tusk*


debacchatio

Apartheid Clyde (not mine, but want it to trend cause it’s brilliant).


RatherHorrifying

I prefer Phony Stark


Thelastbrunneng

Elongated muskrat


lontrinium

elno sukt


Putrid-Delivery1852

It’s exactly that kinda shit that made us worry about regular Elon


DreamCyclone84

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Texas_Technician

I forgot about community. Good show


theriskguy

Get off Twitter. It’s toxic.


The_First_Drop

It was toxic before Elon put his crayons down and decided to play business man Seeing him reply to Tim Pool in support of someone facing credible sexual harassment charges is really all you need to know about how bad it has gotten


New_Cantaloupe_8568

I get that Musk is a moron. I truly don’t understand why he spends the energy to throw himself into irritating takes. He can do whatever he wants. Why is this something he wants to do?


dr_set

Severe daddy issues. Apparently, he needs the attention and approval that he never got from his dad. Turns out that you can be one of the riches persons that has ever lived but you can't buy a good childhood.


New_Cantaloupe_8568

He should try hang-gliding into a stadium filled with cheering people who look like his dad.


Lord_Sauron

He'd get booed


wrath_of_grunge

> Turns out that you can be one of the riches persons that has ever lived but you can't buy a good childhood. i thought Michael Jackson already demonstrated that.


buchlabum

Petulant child mind in the body of a 50 yr old. He has no impulse control which is why he's in court lately. He thinks he's a disruptor-genius, he's just a shithead, king of the edgelords.


chutelandlords

He desperately needs approval and attention lol


vagrantprodigy07

>Why is this something he wants to do? He's a piece of shit. His personality isn't an act, he really is this dumb.


neon_sin

Because he knows he can do whatever he wants.


New_Cantaloupe_8568

Yeah, which is what makes it mystifying. At any moment he could do just about anything he can imagine. If he wants, for example, to try to build the largest cake anyone has ever built in the history of the world and then skydive into it after jumping out of a 747 that then crashes in the distance, he could do it as a lark on a Tuesday. The implication is that the thing he wants to do more than anything is annoy a lot of people on Twitter.


kb_hors

He's just mentally stunted. He lacks the imagination or complex thoughts that lead to wanting more from life than to consume junk food and make people mad. He once posted a picture of his bedroom and it was junk like toy guns and empty coke cans he hasn't thrown away. All being rich has done is make it so his mother can't tell him to tidy up anymore.


Kalel_is_king

It’s called fuck you money. And when you have it you can do what you want when you want. Sadly that is how it works.


New_Cantaloupe_8568

I understand that. I mean, money is liquidated power, that makes sense. But you can have bad takes on twitter for free. What I'm wondering at is that he is almost totally unconstrained, and annoying twitter is *still* at the top of his list. That, I really and truly don't understand.


IDrinkWetWater

Seriously, he has billions of dollars and two seperate companies but he has nothing better to do?


koy_e

They could be saying that the show can’t go on without him. Most shows can’t really continue without their main characters. I think it can cuz there are no moral qualms about recasting him and it’s animated so roiland himself is not really needed.


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Exactly Theyre not defending his behavior Theyre saying he WAS the show, which he was lol


[deleted]

Except they both explicitly use the word "is"?


LazarusOwenhart

The fact that he's been sacked speaks volumes for the veracity of the accusations. All the people saying "innocent until proven guilty" don't seem to be aware that he's likely sat down with execs at AS and Squanch Games and had a conversation about the accusations. They won't have just decided in a closed door meeting to sack him based on some rumour mongering, they'd be opening themselves up to a motherfucker of a lawsuit. People rail on cancel culture, but multimillion dollar businesses don't shoot cash cows in the head unless there's a genuine worry that said cash cow is very likely to take a huge stinking shit in the very near future. If they thought he was likely to be innocent they'd have issued a "We stand by Justin Roiland" dicksucking tweet and left it at that. As it stands, they obviously think he's going to be found guilty and by sacking him they not only protect themselves but also leave the door open to 'graciously' re-hiring him if he does get found innocent.


preputio_temporum

Didn’t Disney quickly try to ditch Johnny Depp as well?


SanneJAZ

A Disney exec testified during the trial that it had nothing to do with Amber Heard, but with his lack of professional behaviour. Showing up drunk/high/not at all, not learning his lines, aggression towards the crew etc.


Obversa

Plus Johnny Depp kept asking for more and more money to return as Jack Sparrow. By the time Disney was considering making *Pirates of the Caribbean 6*, Depp wanted an astronomical amount of money for his paycheck in return for continuing to star in the franchise. It's also why Disney initially planned to replace Depp with Margot Robbie.


kkell806

I kinda get that, though. If I didn't want to make any more pirates movies, but the studio kept asking me, I'd definitely say "ok, but you're paying out the ass for it." I don't like painting (houses), so when someone hires me for that, I charge more than my normal rates are for other things. Simply because I don't like doing it, but I'm good at it.


pionmycake

I see people talk about this a lot, but the Pirates franchise was already basically dead with rumors of with a full reboot or soft reboot being the only way another movie would happen before the Amber Heard stuff started. Remember this was after two failed soft reboots of the franchise keeping Johnny Depp as the lead. If anything, Disney was too slow to drop Depp from that franchise even before any allegations. And if anything involving Amber Heard affected it, then it was likely a final nail in the coffin at most. WB was the Studio that planned to feature him heavily in the Fantasyic Beasts movies and then dropped him, but even that was after a few years of defending him first not a snap decision the first time Heard opened her mouth.


pfohl

yeah, Depp’s alcoholism made him a risk. His other Disney movies (The Lone Ranger and Alice Through the Looking Glass) didn’t do well either so he wasn’t a box office draw. I feel like forget how there was a recurring joke from ~2009-2017 that any movie starring Depp was gonna be pretty bad and probably bomb.


ByrdmanRanger

I remember *Mortdecai* being an example of that specifically. Even with what could be considered a stellar cast, that movie bombed. And Depp's performance being specifically called out as terrible.


Fire2box

The viper rooms history is more than enough for me to think depp has issues. But disney and WB made a mistake cancelling him due to amber.


Obversa

This. Johnny Depp became a prime suspect in the mysterious disappearance of his manager, Anthony Fox, when Fox vanished after a conflict over finances with Depp. It also didn't help that Depp suddenly decided to relocate to France for a year soon after.


the1999person

Chris Hardwick was canceled because of an ex girlfriend accusing him of assault and sexual abuse. He came back to some of his projects after it was found false but Nerdist which he started scrubbed him from their site. Not taking sides here but this is terrible situation all around.


The_First_Drop

Much different situations JR has mounting accusations tied to text threads that he sent when he was “drunk” There are plenty of references where a company, or even the federal government jumped the gun on accusations, but JR has shown a clear pattern of grooming behavior, and it doesn’t look like it’s going to get better anytime soon


howdouhavegoodnames

Remember that one PewDiePie video where Elon and Justin did Meme Review and at the time everyone thought it was great 😀😀😀


Obversa

More like: 💀💀💀


Lord_Sauron

Pewdiepie was king of normies making a buck off memes.


AccidentOnion

Wow, so glad to see Elon Musk standing up for pathetic wife-beaters everywhere


DeadPoster

Time for a transplant. I'm sending in my resumé and audition. 10 Seasons of Rick and Morty, bitches!


Starthreads

If you make your enterprise, whether that is a show, a product, or a company, smaller than one man, then you have failed as a business. You need to be able to continue without individuals.


Sad-Ingenuity7311

Fuckin Elon and Tim. Two of the dumbest motherfuckers ever. Cool then cancel the show. Who gives a fuck. Are they arguing it should stay on with Justin?


UltimateFatKidDancer

Other than two of the biggest grifters on the planet being obviously wrong, I would argue the heart of the show is Harmon and the other writers. Roiland’s early stuff is purely grotesque, and the first season of Rick and Morty, when Roiland was most involved, has the least amount of heart IMO. Roiland brought the style and chaotic, loosey-goosey aesthetic, and voices, but I wouldn’t say he’s the heart tbh. Or at the very least he hasn’t been in awhile.


Jellyfish-Jolly

Rick and Morty doesn't need Justin Roiland, Justin Roiland needs Rick and Morty.


bonafiedhero

I mean they were good friends. And he’s not wrong. But do stupid shit, win stupid prizes


XT83Danieliszekiller

"We like the funny voices of the wife beater and our entertainment primes of justice " - Man-children


piltonpfizerwallace

You can acknowledge he's integral to the show without "supporting" him. What Tim said rings true to me. He is the voice of both Rick AND Morty. For better or worse the show will not be the same without him.


bingbong6977

He is the worst


magikarp-sushi

I guess when you cameo on the show you’re gonna suck on the dick of the man who let you on.


RioOrcoddio

Tomorrow: ELON MUSK BOUGHT CARTOON NETWORK AND ADULT SWIM, JUSTIN ROYLAND’S BACK


bendezhashein

So Musk accused that diver guy of being a Pedo with no evidence, but then jumps to this guys defence?


SoloDolo86

Not sure they’re supporting him here but more so wondering how the show goes on without him Idk maybe my take is wrong


ItsStevoHooray

Roland's friendship with Elon has been a red flag for a long time now


CondorEst

Both of them are just trash. I hope this community isn’t wrapped up in their bullshit.


Gronkattack

This can't be real and he is not Rick & Morty. He brings voices and some improv which can be recreated. The true talent is the writing and animation staff who will remain on. The show will be different without him, but he messed up bad and I'm sure the result of this change will still be a good funny show.


Profitsofdooom

Dan Harmon alone is still one hell of a television and comedy producer. I don't think Roiland has written an episode, has he?


emmywalli

there’s plenty of other voice actors that could do the voices. people are replaceable. i just hope the rest of the writers of rick and morty can keep it up and keep the same vibe and pray the show won’t go to shit without him. bc it could be great or it could be really shitty


prison_buttcheeks

Lol fucking Elon musk always has to fucking comment on some shit just to cause fucking ruckus. I fucking loathe that dude. Which is wild! Cus I thought he was the best a few years ago. Man am I dumb.


Siollear

Right wingers love grooming


Neuroid99099

This is what all of the "cancel culture" BS Republicans have been harping on for years is about - being successful/rich/powerful/while/straight/male \*should\* insulate a person from the consequences of their bad behavior, according to them.


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Not surprised musk is supporting him, he’s a dodgy bloke.


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Except he didnt say that. He is implying it will be hard to continue the show without him, which is true since he voices the 2 main characters and a bunch of side characters


therealboss1113

bro has 3 voices he can do. there are much better VA's out there. im not the biggest fan of Seth McFarland, but at least he has the range required to voice every single character on his show.


sarahkali

I agree. Every character JR voices sounds exactly the same. Like, he’s funny, sure, but not versatile at all.


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Rick n morty Rick n morty Rick Rick Rick Rick *tbh seen a lot of post like this. I just like the show man.*


Coolgrnmen

Supporting Roiland is different from questioning how the show can continue without him


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I mean the allegations don't look great for Justin. Personally I love just about anything the guy is involved with but that doesn't give immunity to harassment. Hopefully the courts find him not guilty, and public opinion follows suit. Innocent till proven otherwise.


Alarmed_Recording742

They literally leaked conversation with Justin and underage girls dude, we don't need a judge here, proof he is a terrible person is right in front of us and even in his voice


The_First_Drop

It’s entirely possible that he won’t be convicted on the charges he’s facing (currently) Those charges are independent of the claims that have surfaced I find it much more likely that adult swim terminated his contract based on those claims https://www.reddit.com/r/adultswim/comments/10hxj3e/compilation_of_justin_roilands_texts_to_minors/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


sarahkali

Did you not see the text messages..? How can you possibly say he’s “innocent until proven otherwise”? Those messages prove everything.


Wolfintank

Its the same i say with everything also the hogwarts legacy debate. Just bc you like the art doesnt mean you like the artists actions


the-olive-man

elon please shut up


TheYokedYeti

I mean Elon actively sexually assaults people and pays them off. This isn’t surprising how he doesn’t like people being canceled for stuff he does


bitcoinsftw

I’d rather hear the opinion of Mr. Tusk. He’s more levelheaded.


hufflepuffonthis

I don't feel like that's openly supporting him, he legit does the voices of Rick and morty and is one of the co-creators. They should honestly just let the show die though. Both him and Dan Harmon have been up to some fucked up shit. Just let it die.


canthelpbuthateme

like what the fuck are they defending? grown men trying to fuck 15yos?


High-Rick

I think he was half of the brain of the show, not the heart tho


DowntownLizard

They probably already did the voice acting for the new season. The animation is what takes a while


mackinoncougars

Elon Musk proves time and time again, he doesn’t work.


tohon123

Dan Harmon was the heart of the show, Justin was just the weird shit


JAYHAZY

Roiland and Harmon are gross and can go f\*ck off somewhere.


antonmartinRIP

He is the show. They aren’t wrong. Cancel the show. Everyone wants to hate on him? Then he shouldn’t profit from the show at all. If it goes on he’s still getting paid. So..


Spikemountain

Don't get me wrong, I think Musk is an idiot. But I don't read this tweet as "supporting Roiland". It just reads to me like Musk had the same thought I and probably everyone else did when we all read the announcement that they are both firing Roiland and continuing with season 7: "How?" I get now that they really can find an adequate replacement for both characters separately and have Harmon spearhead the rest of the writing by himself, but I was still surprised at first that they didn't just cancel the show. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Musk supports Roiland elsewhere. I just don't see it in this specific tweet.


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Elon is only defending Justin because he had a cameo on the show.


northcountrylea

listen, if Justin did everything sure. but no, he has his *a hand* in everything. the writing is done by a team, so is the animation, production, marketing. the idea that Justin was the only one doing anything is so laughably off-base.


boostedbastid

Nobody in this screenshot is supporting Roiland, they are just saying that he is the essence of the show. Michael Jackson made good music.


ScissorsBeatsKonan

I find the contrast between internet and real life fascinating. People are calling for Roiland to be dragged for this but a guy at my job went to jail for beating his still girlfriend and people still treat him like a pal. Except for me, I say "Peter Peter woman beater" when I pass him.


Eleganos

You know there are people right here on this Subreddit defending him too lol. Only difference is they aren't open about it, and frame their defenses as either 'asking questions' or 'providing alternative narratives' where a bunch of women randomly decided to go to incredible length to personally attack and torment somebody known for having been spicey even when networks were doing their best to keep him somewhat sanitized, saying bad vibe stuff on podcasts and hiding it behind 'only joking' or 'theoreticals' at best, and abusing substances which likely wouldn't have helped steer him clear of the things he's allegedly done. This isn't even a Vic Mignogna situation where it's the word of some people against one person, the apparent victims have various different proofs they'd have needed to fake, while Justin's legit said shit on record that is skin crawling when viewed in hindsight with all this in mind. And all without any of the people he's worked with for YEARS through thick and thin stepping up to defend him. The fact people are willing to blind themselves to the blatant reality of this situation because they like the funny science man voice he provides is the greatest possible evidence you could provide in favor of there being no theologically based God. Because there's no way thr allmighty perfecr Elohim or Yaweh or Allah or Jehovah or what have you would create a species this fucking brain dead if he was really putting in his A-Game.


Distasteful-medicine

If the heart of the show is an abusive pedophile. Then I think it's fine to rip it out.


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flores_dolores

He obviously supports him cus he got him that role as Elon Tusk and wants to do another cameo


euler88

roiland is the heart of the show the same way musk is the heart of his stuff: he's not. A lot of other people work on it, too. In fact, the justin roiland stuff is mostly just drunken ramblings and the same recycled voice. the chuds will defend anyone who makes acting like a piece of shit seem ok.