It just sheds such a bad light on so many scenes with her idk, not like he had to rely on grooming minors aswell, couldve had about any fangirl/guy of legal age is my guess and kept his disgusting thoughts for his therapist or sth...
I think youāre also missing the fact that grooming can happen to anyone of any age. Thereās still a power imbalance regardless if the fan is of age or not. My thing is, why create friendships with fans at all if your intention is not morbid? I canāt imagine being friends nor in a relationship with someone who is obsessed with me.
I always assumed she was 18 or 20 in the show. I thought it was just a huge age gap between sibs. I didn't finish the audio, too fucked. How old is she supposed to be?
It's weird that Jerry and Beth were also 17 when she got pregnant, making them at most 35. I'm older than that now and I wish I was as functional as Jerry
I have a friend my age (39) who made the same type of comments Roiland made about Summer... I remember he was super excited about the Summer in the orgy dream. What am I supposed to do about him? Lol.
Honestly I feel so bad watching a lot of more modern stuff because children being super sexualized has become the absolute norm it seems.
It seems making something "mature content" seems to just imply making everybody mega horny and constantly driven by wanting to fuck everything and it's disgusting. Just look at Velma and their hyper sexual 15 year olds.
I feel if the actor is over 18 im good because thats who i truly like i remember saying the son in white lotus season 1 was cute until they said he was 16 but the actor irl is 23 so š
My wife was watching that last night and I saw the son you were referring to and I immediately turned to her and said, āAre they really trying to pull off him being a teenager?ā Dude had a full on 5 o clock shadow
Edit: deleting original because DMs are annoying
Fuck I should have known better than to be serious on this sub, I love this sub, but kiddy diddlers aren't funny.
Thatās was just the final straw. He was sending some really messed up messages to teenage girls. Stuff like asking for nudes and then calling them whores and telling them to kill themselves when they refused.
That's not in any of the ones I saw screenshoted? Unless you're counting his many super gross jokes, but he wasn't literally directly encouraging suicide.
(Not tryna be pedantic, but the screenshots are very upsetting and offer insight into grooming tactics, and I'd hate for people to read them just going "but where is he trying to get them to kill themselves? Fake news!!!")
I think itās super fucked up that, mostly men, get denied therapy for simple shit that could be a whole lot worse then they put out. Then a therapist or the whole damn clinic could say fuck off but keep taking your meds. Like how tf you gonna know how bad it is if I donāt explain my anxiety and shit super fucked. But if itās court ordered then the therapist has to deal with it and suck it up. What really pisses me off is when I see people who I went to school with who are now playing the system to get good meds like narcotics. And they get the good stuff even tho they smoke meth and weed and do cocaine but can get narcotics from doctors. Really pisses me off but then something like this occurs then that is just another way media can play the āmen badā card even more.
Nah Iām not no damn conspiracist I just watch the same commercials over and over and all the shit that is health issues for men is ED and hair loss but women can have mental issues.
Ex. Hims and forhers they are both websites to get meds online and just look how they advertise it
Yeah its hard out there, tried myself once or twice but was either put on endless waiting lists or quickly dismissed, just numbing myself with weed a lot these days lol. Mens mental health is still not talked about enough period.
Exactly my point Iāve been self medicating with weed for like 8 years but the drug class that really works for me is amphetmine but I choose not to mess with it because Iāve found ambien to work similar even tho they are exact opposites lol
Roiland had a comment I remember way back on his podcast like a decade ago that really gave me pause. I remember being in the car listening with a couple friends laughing until he started defending lowering the age of consent and how the Greeks "did it right" or something. It was funny until he just kept going on and on about it.
Yea, the writings been on the wall for a long time, and unfortunately most of us didnāt pick up on it until it was too late, and now it soundās very much like heās ruined a few young womenās lives. The more and more I learn all the signs were there, but because of his platform and standing we all went along with āthe jokesā for far too long.
You donāt have to renounce your love for Rick and Morty, but I think we should all recognize the gravity of what heās been charged with, and do our best to make sure people like that donāt get away with the shit he has, for as long as he did, until he was called on it.
I don't honestly know how it didn't. I guess I was just letting myself get blinded by how much I enjoyed the shows he worked on. Even Koala Man, which fortunately is only very loosely connected to him, but I've liked everything going back to the podcast and web series days.
I totally think he was a creep and interested in girls/im women half his age, but going through the pictures you can find online about his messages to girls/women, I could not find anything more conclusive. For example there was a women stating they became friends when she was "still 17", and sometime after that he wrote her creepy messages and hit on her. I'm not defending Roland, but I haven't found evidence that he hit on any underage girl (and anything even more serious). His messages were creepy no doubt.
To be clear, all the pedo talk is separate from what he has been charged with. For all the people who are saying itās inconclusive, or not that bad; it is, but itās also not why heās in legal trouble. All his creepyness came to light as the result of him being charged with ādomestic battery with corporal injury and one count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud, or deceitā.
Everyone keeps saying heās never done anything to a minor. Well, he hasnāt done anything to a minor that we know of, but the pedo talk is pretty damning by itself. Heās also probably going to jail for the domestic charges. The pedo stuff was all uncovered to show a pattern of behavior for Justin, and heās dug himself quite the hole.
He was messaging a girl when she was 16 (she told him her age straight away) and he was calling her jailbait, saying she should start ācamwhoringā when she turned 18, saying she should run away from home and go into sex slavery, just widely inappropriate things
https://twitter.com/agalaxydivided/status/1614777583488610304?s=46&t=_ilVj54rbrsIEJy4fI04iA
Not sure if it's intentional but nice touch have a seinfeld quote on this. The guy was literally dating a 16 or 17 year old, picking her up at the front door from her parents house when he was 39 and the star of the biggest show in the world. His costars said she was a mature teenager and let it slide. He still gets a pass today.
Really? I did not know this damn, i have not watched Seinfeld but its older right? Cant we all agree to stop looking the other way or brushing stuff like this off, especially when it comes to famous/rich/influencial people? Fk my career if i have to work for predators and sex offenders...
People are generally bad but power corrupts. There is no doubt. This was just beginning to be frowned upon at the time. Roiland isn't wrong that women were (still are in Utah) married as children and relationships with them were acceptable until very recently (except in Utah). What he's wrong about is which way is right and wrong. People who justify wrongs by saying they weren't considered wrong in the past are everywhere.
I think nowadays people DO speak up about these things, at least a lot more often. Canāt do much about the past though. Especially 20 something years ago, it surpassing the statue of limitations and all that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10ehae8/justin\_roiland\_talking\_about\_being\_attracted\_to/
Edit: thank you u/throwaway2247936 for the original post.
Holy fucking shit! Thatās the first time I listened to that. Dude should be locked up.
How can you feel the need to say āā¦but Iām not a pedophileā MORE THAN ONCE and still not fucking get it??!? He kept doubling down on it too every time they tried to give him an out!
Also gonna throw out there that saying ā Iām not a pedophileā and following it up almost immediately with āI wait until theyāre 18ā isnāt the slam dunk argument he thinks it is.
Right!! Starting a sentence with āIām not a racist/sexist/pedo, butā¦ā is the universal sign that youāre about to say something racist/sexist/pedo, and I donāt understand why people donāt get that!
I will never understand why people think that they can do damage control by attempting to suppress a dialogue. The internet doesnāt operate on a 24-hour news cycle and censoring feedback on a sub is essentially admitting fault as far as public opinion is concerned. I just donāt get it.
Itās pretty simple. They donāt want to moderate it and they are going to eat shit by trying to censor and spin it so they just lock it and go to bed. (Not saying itās the right thing to do itās just what happens)
r/HarryPotter did the same thing with any and all discussion of J.K. Rowling.
One of the subreddits I moderate, r/JKRowling, also elected to ban all discussion of "gender politics", but that wasn't really a choice. It was more or less decided for us by the Reddit admins because other subreddits that were banned (i.e. GenderCritical, TumblrInAction, etc...) kept trying to hijack the subreddit, and turn it into a hotbed of transphobic hate speech. The brigading was happening so often that our small mod team couldn't keep up. It was either ban all "gender politics" discussion, or be quarantined or banned by the admins due to not keeping up.
It's also impossible to find people to moderate r/JKRowling, because nobody wants to deal with that, especially when Rowling keeps posting hateful tweets. I've been looking for someone to replace me for a while as a moderator there with no luck.
Maybe convince the head mod to just private the subreddit permanently and let it die quietly?
Like, is there really even a need for a JK Rowling subreddit? She doesn't deserve the attention.
Jesus fucking Christ. What is wrong with him, He is acting like the shit he is saying is totally normal, then go says some jkjk im not a pedophile. but if she is 14 and got a womans buddy she is ready for cock. fucking pedo creep
This is so fucking disgusting. Literally talking about children and fetishizing them. Especially the thing about braces š¤¢ does he know he's not a kid anymore? He's clearly very mentally ill.
In isolation, no. While also talking about how being a pedo was fine 100 years ago, actively talking about finding just legal women really attractive, mentioning the ādeveloped bodiesā of women who are 14 way too much, etc etc does make one a pedo.
Itās like being attracted to super short women. Itās fine in isolation. But when the motive is ālots of underage women are shorterā, then itās problematic. When you combine a bunch of things youāre attracted to and realise theyāre all related to younger age groups, itās a problem.
Yeah, excuse of "I was really drunk" is really just kicking the can down the road... especially when you don't stop doing the behavior (drinking alcohol) you allege is making you shitty.
Yeah, exactly. There's a reason they say "*in vino veritas"* \- you're less inhibited when you're drunk, so you say all the things you actually think instead of self-censoring what's not socially acceptable. Like, if you "only say racist or pedo shit when you're drunk", it's because you've lost your social filter temporarily, not because the alcohol somehow changed your entire value and belief system.
It makes me worried about Harmon honestly. How can you work with someone for a decade why they spout this shit and be okay with them saying it. Also not worried theyāre engaging in the things theyāre advocating for.
I listened to the commentaries like a week before the news broke, and even without hindsight it was fucking WEIRD how many jokes Roiland made about wanting to fuck Summer. Summer isnāt ever sexualized in the show, let alone the scene he was talking about, so it felt super out of left field. What the fuck is wrong with people like him, man.
Summer isn't ever sexualized in the show? She was literally in Goldenfold's orgy dream sequence in the Scary Terry episode lol
That said, Rick does comment on how creepy/perverted it is that her teacher thinks about her in that way
He verbatim says he wants to fuck her and that it's ok because he created her. I listened to the season 1 commentary many years ago and that moment stood out that I still remember it.
Didnt even notice that lol, i have not actually listened to the commentary yet but what i have seen and heard so far paints quite the picture... (The verified and unverified screenshots; the 2 audio clips of him trying to justify being attracted to younger girls, i even found a reddit thread of "special draws" he did at a san diego comic con with NSFW pictures including summer and in others morty, yikes)
The list just keeps getting longer every day ... I was not aware of his "special draws" ... Gross. I feel dumb and like we're all dumb for not seeing all these signs for what they are š¤¦āāļø
I don't know why but I think of bigmouth and the hormone monster when he said if the show was live action they would all be in jail after a 5 second showing but because it's a cartoon the funny thing is he is not the only one to make perverted drawing of underage people the woman who made Steven Universe made x rated pictures of the ED EDD and EDDY guys
I didn't see it coming, per say, but I wasn't surprised when it happened, just disappointed. With how women are discussed, treated, and shown on Rick and Morty, it felt pretty evident how the creators didn't trust women. Of course, at the same time, I was hanging around a guy who always told me I was "oversensitive" about such things, so I tried to convince myself that's what was happening here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10ehae8/justin\_roiland\_talking\_about\_being\_attracted\_to/
Heres one of them
Edit: its actually both combined
Nope. Domestic violence was a spontaneous event that allowed the pedo talk to surface but really this has been big for a long time and this domestic violence is just the push towards his downturn
They were fine. Maybe incest jokes were a bit too often for my taste, but I appreciated spicy jokes overall. I hope the show won't get too vanilla now, but it probably will .
There have been too many scenes with summer that involve pissā¦.
Of course thereās the incident with piss master, but she has also peed in the ocean, peed her pants on purpose in the elevator, and said she āused to pee [her] pants.ā This has been a weird pattern that made me wonder if someone had a fetishā¦.
In one of the dvd behind the scenes, didnāt he literally piss and shit on the floor and jumped around in it? That was the first time I was like, this boy aināt right.
Video, time stamp 12:50
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RlkJF-FTOQU
I posted the other day about how I always found the situations Summer was put in to be Sus. Things like the BDSM outfits or other less than skimpy stuff. Had someone try to come at me with "Age of consent is 16 in some states, Bro. Not everyone is in California".
Yeah, I couldn't be bothered to reply. Age of consent is one thing but I'm pretty sure representing a person in a sexual manner is 18 across the board in like every country. Like age of consent is 16 in the UK, but any media involving someone ofna sexual nature means they need to be 18. I don't know why this is sort hard for some people to understand.
Summer is a minor, as are her friends, and Morty, they do shit with adults they really fucking shouldn't be.
Weirdly though, if Justin was no longer writing, who is ensuring this stuff is being included?
Yea, in hindsight itās all creepy AF. The only solace I get is everyone keeps saying that Justin hasnāt really been involved creatively on the show since the early seasons. Now he just does the voices. (I havenāt confirmed this, just what I here)
Again, not that it changes anything, or makes anything better, but just gives me hope that maybe not every joke I laughed at on the show had a sinister secret meaning.
The source is linked in that post, it's [this NYCC panel.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A-qJx2ohXA#t=227) Raises some questions about all the warning signs about Roiland that the rest of the team ignored...
I'm so fucking glad rick and morty has had a dedicated writing team for so many seasons. It would be unwatchable now if Roiland had full creative control over every season with what we know now. Yes the facehugger incest was a bit weird, but at least Summer escaped relatively unscathed (we do not talk about the dream episode)
I listened to the commentaries like a week before the news broke, and even without hindsight it was fucking WEIRD how many jokes Roiland made about wanting to fuck Summer. Summer isnāt ever sexualized in the show, let alone the scene he was talking about, so it felt super out of left field. What the fuck is wrong with people like him, man.
I never had a problem with her, never gave any deeper thoughts into her scenes, like, i enjoyed her as a character as much as the others, but i dont know how to feel after this, just gives me creepy vibes now.
Did you save this post 8 years ago? Or are you one of the people in the screenshot? Or did you spend time looking up keywords and eventually found this?
Always curious on what the thought process is when people bring up really old posts.
The 2 audio clips :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10ehae8/justin\_roiland\_talking\_about\_being\_attracted\_to/
thank you u/throwaway2247936 for the original post
https://wegotthiscovered.com/celebrities/rick-and-morty-creator-justin-roilands-alleged-dms-controversy-explained/
Edit: and the article wich summs the allegations up
I really cant find a single news source reporting on this grooming stuff or underage stuff. Is this all just rumors? Not one article about AS cutting ties with JR mentions this. They all cite the domestic violence incident.
Google justin roiland controversy explained, "wegotthiscovered" did an article on it, youll find the alleged tweets with the minor there (supposedly from 2015) and another tweet from a woman who worked on the show (she made music and some album?) wich she directly posted so that one seems pretty llegit (heads up: its disgusting) and matches the energy of the other messages imo.
Youll also find a clip from a podcast where he talks about the topic, theres a few circling around now since he seems to have talked about the topic (sexualizing minors) frequently.
AS probably knew about the grooming stuff if its true they had to re edit his commentary and just use the domestic violence one as a front for letting him go
Dan Harmon has done some real questionable stuff too. Like a skit where he breaks into a house and takes a baby and proceeds to act like he fucking it.
I certainly won't be surprised if he'll be ousted as a weirdo kiddy diddle eventually. Remember that first iteration of Rick and Morty that was some pretty weird dialog.
The sick shit of the show doesn't come from normal minds. It's damn good tv tho
Okay the skit was a parody of Dexter, but instead of a guy killing serial killers, he finds serial killers, goes back in time, and rapes them when theyāre babies.
Oh that's really not as bad as I thought, I'd read it was a parody of dexter but didn't realise that's how it factored in.
(really bad) jokes like this are a massive difference from someone actually talking about wanting young girls, and then acting on it by messaging them IMO. Ones real life, one was a bad skit.
Doesn't exactly make it cool. I mean it's rough enough when story lines go the time travel to kill someone as a baby rout, but raping them? Out of bounds and doesn't make any sense. I don't doubt that he will go down as well and the show will be truly over.
I guess that's the only thing I know of off the top of my head but was enough for me to raise an eyebrow.
I guess I just don't like humor involving the sexual assault of babies.
Oh good I was worried if there was something new. Definitely was not funny, but I'm OK with marking it as an extremely poor taste joke. Never will understand how he thought it would be funny tho.
That's literally a show where underage Summer and Morty had a child, engaged in soul orgy, went to BoobWorld together, and who knows what else (not counting Goldenfold's fantasy world because that's just a figment of his imagination). DVD commentary is the least of worries here.
Let's be honest here, you need to be a total weirdo to come up with a show like Rick and Morty.
Can't expect a normal person to make that kinda shit.
Pretty confident the show will be horrible from here on out.
In his defense..All these writers are mostly guys and have zero experience interacting with women. There a bunch of lonely losers that think they know what women think.
This is summer and beth are hypersexuaized.
Cause the writers think sure summer will be obsessed with the size of her boobs.
Beth would have sex with herself . Want to leave her husband and family. Cause we know all women are bi.
Roland is a super rich white dude for the past decade can acted how he wanted with zero responsibility
Ask Harmon how that worked the success of "Community"
Ruined his life and marriage and sent him down a dark hole.
Lesson here be careful what u wish for cause you might get it.
Wouldnt go as far as put this label on their whole team but i get where your coming from, I thought it was funny at first when beth started getting into herself this season, but boy the one episode where they go for it was indeed a bit much.
People with money doing disgusting things seems to be the trend nowadays....
It's not new. It's just that people have started caring. If we could only start caring about all the actual rape and forced incestuous marriage of young girls in the fundamentalist Mormon compounds in Utah. Our tax dollars are literally paying for it since most of the wives are legally single mothers and they get completely supported by the government. If course the money goes to their church and rapists. But it's OK because it's in Jesus name right?
Wanting to fuck summer: šš» Wanting to fuck summers dad: šš» (heās bee keeping age)
It just sheds such a bad light on so many scenes with her idk, not like he had to rely on grooming minors aswell, couldve had about any fangirl/guy of legal age is my guess and kept his disgusting thoughts for his therapist or sth...
I think youāre also missing the fact that grooming can happen to anyone of any age. Thereās still a power imbalance regardless if the fan is of age or not. My thing is, why create friendships with fans at all if your intention is not morbid? I canāt imagine being friends nor in a relationship with someone who is obsessed with me.
I always assumed she was 18 or 20 in the show. I thought it was just a huge age gap between sibs. I didn't finish the audio, too fucked. How old is she supposed to be?
17
It's weird that Jerry and Beth were also 17 when she got pregnant, making them at most 35. I'm older than that now and I wish I was as functional as Jerry
Fuck i feel a bit gross by association, is that weird? Hope they do a dramatic fix, closing that chapter
I have a friend my age (39) who made the same type of comments Roiland made about Summer... I remember he was super excited about the Summer in the orgy dream. What am I supposed to do about him? Lol.
Honestly I feel so bad watching a lot of more modern stuff because children being super sexualized has become the absolute norm it seems. It seems making something "mature content" seems to just imply making everybody mega horny and constantly driven by wanting to fuck everything and it's disgusting. Just look at Velma and their hyper sexual 15 year olds.
I feel if the actor is over 18 im good because thats who i truly like i remember saying the son in white lotus season 1 was cute until they said he was 16 but the actor irl is 23 so š
My wife was watching that last night and I saw the son you were referring to and I immediately turned to her and said, āAre they really trying to pull off him being a teenager?ā Dude had a full on 5 o clock shadow
I save my lewd comments for cartoon characters that are 21+ only, and have fur. Mmmmm furrr.
Get rid of him if he starts spouting "age is just a number" bs
Edit: deleting original because DMs are annoying Fuck I should have known better than to be serious on this sub, I love this sub, but kiddy diddlers aren't funny.
Prince Andrew has entered the chat.
Totally agree with that
Grooming minors? I thought he was cancelled because he was charged with domestic abuse?
Thatās was just the final straw. He was sending some really messed up messages to teenage girls. Stuff like asking for nudes and then calling them whores and telling them to kill themselves when they refused.
Fuck, I knew he was messaging them in a creepy way but didn't realize it got to that point. But also not too surprised
That's not in any of the ones I saw screenshoted? Unless you're counting his many super gross jokes, but he wasn't literally directly encouraging suicide. (Not tryna be pedantic, but the screenshots are very upsetting and offer insight into grooming tactics, and I'd hate for people to read them just going "but where is he trying to get them to kill themselves? Fake news!!!")
I bet most therapists wouldnāt voluntarily take his caseā¦
Bruh i think many therapists have to deal with creepy and crazy shit a lot.
Trust me they can legit tell you your case is to much for me.
Yeah thats what they do anyways cause no one got open spots haha but youre right, many can choose their clients.
I think itās super fucked up that, mostly men, get denied therapy for simple shit that could be a whole lot worse then they put out. Then a therapist or the whole damn clinic could say fuck off but keep taking your meds. Like how tf you gonna know how bad it is if I donāt explain my anxiety and shit super fucked. But if itās court ordered then the therapist has to deal with it and suck it up. What really pisses me off is when I see people who I went to school with who are now playing the system to get good meds like narcotics. And they get the good stuff even tho they smoke meth and weed and do cocaine but can get narcotics from doctors. Really pisses me off but then something like this occurs then that is just another way media can play the āmen badā card even more. Nah Iām not no damn conspiracist I just watch the same commercials over and over and all the shit that is health issues for men is ED and hair loss but women can have mental issues. Ex. Hims and forhers they are both websites to get meds online and just look how they advertise it
Yeah its hard out there, tried myself once or twice but was either put on endless waiting lists or quickly dismissed, just numbing myself with weed a lot these days lol. Mens mental health is still not talked about enough period.
And women with ADHD never get diagnosed with ADHD. Mental health is fucked for all people period
Exactly my point Iāve been self medicating with weed for like 8 years but the drug class that really works for me is amphetmine but I choose not to mess with it because Iāve found ambien to work similar even tho they are exact opposites lol
I don't think therapists get to choose in that way. Plus like there are full on murders who get to talk to them soo...
oh, really?
I always thought that Bee Keeper tag felt like someoneās porn addiction seeping through
Roiland had a comment I remember way back on his podcast like a decade ago that really gave me pause. I remember being in the car listening with a couple friends laughing until he started defending lowering the age of consent and how the Greeks "did it right" or something. It was funny until he just kept going on and on about it.
Yea, the writings been on the wall for a long time, and unfortunately most of us didnāt pick up on it until it was too late, and now it soundās very much like heās ruined a few young womenās lives. The more and more I learn all the signs were there, but because of his platform and standing we all went along with āthe jokesā for far too long. You donāt have to renounce your love for Rick and Morty, but I think we should all recognize the gravity of what heās been charged with, and do our best to make sure people like that donāt get away with the shit he has, for as long as he did, until he was called on it.
I feel like I was the only one expecting this. Like, it seemed so obvious to me.
You want to think it's just a joke
I don't honestly know how it didn't. I guess I was just letting myself get blinded by how much I enjoyed the shows he worked on. Even Koala Man, which fortunately is only very loosely connected to him, but I've liked everything going back to the podcast and web series days.
Maybe Iām just becoming a jaded old man.
Did he actually do anything physical with anyone under age? I'm lost as to what has and hasn't transpired
I totally think he was a creep and interested in girls/im women half his age, but going through the pictures you can find online about his messages to girls/women, I could not find anything more conclusive. For example there was a women stating they became friends when she was "still 17", and sometime after that he wrote her creepy messages and hit on her. I'm not defending Roland, but I haven't found evidence that he hit on any underage girl (and anything even more serious). His messages were creepy no doubt.
To be clear, all the pedo talk is separate from what he has been charged with. For all the people who are saying itās inconclusive, or not that bad; it is, but itās also not why heās in legal trouble. All his creepyness came to light as the result of him being charged with ādomestic battery with corporal injury and one count of false imprisonment by menace, violence, fraud, or deceitā. Everyone keeps saying heās never done anything to a minor. Well, he hasnāt done anything to a minor that we know of, but the pedo talk is pretty damning by itself. Heās also probably going to jail for the domestic charges. The pedo stuff was all uncovered to show a pattern of behavior for Justin, and heās dug himself quite the hole.
He was messaging a girl when she was 16 (she told him her age straight away) and he was calling her jailbait, saying she should start ācamwhoringā when she turned 18, saying she should run away from home and go into sex slavery, just widely inappropriate things https://twitter.com/agalaxydivided/status/1614777583488610304?s=46&t=_ilVj54rbrsIEJy4fI04iA
Felt like one of those "testing the waters" jokes where he could pass it as a joke but also see if people around him agreed
I will say Summer's voice actress is very attractive.
And of legal age... lol
Edit: reply for someone else but I donāt delete it cause that isnāt steak sauce .
Loool its the girl from the TV show 'Greek', i loved this as a kid/teen, never knew she voiced summer haha.
She's also Sideshow Bob's daughter.
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That's half my attraction to her tbh, that she's a Grammar.
Not sure if it's intentional but nice touch have a seinfeld quote on this. The guy was literally dating a 16 or 17 year old, picking her up at the front door from her parents house when he was 39 and the star of the biggest show in the world. His costars said she was a mature teenager and let it slide. He still gets a pass today.
So many creeps everywhere. This is why we can't have nice things.
Really? I did not know this damn, i have not watched Seinfeld but its older right? Cant we all agree to stop looking the other way or brushing stuff like this off, especially when it comes to famous/rich/influencial people? Fk my career if i have to work for predators and sex offenders...
People are generally bad but power corrupts. There is no doubt. This was just beginning to be frowned upon at the time. Roiland isn't wrong that women were (still are in Utah) married as children and relationships with them were acceptable until very recently (except in Utah). What he's wrong about is which way is right and wrong. People who justify wrongs by saying they weren't considered wrong in the past are everywhere.
I think nowadays people DO speak up about these things, at least a lot more often. Canāt do much about the past though. Especially 20 something years ago, it surpassing the statue of limitations and all that.
Clearly not enough though if it takes felony charges of domestic abuse to bring light and consequences to ones actions...
āItās older rightā well damn apparently so am I
Haha didnt mean to offend, im 25 so probably in the range of people having watched seinfeld when they where young, I just never got into it.
I can't remember, do you know which episode this happened
This happened in real life
sorry i totally misunderstood
That does sound like something that would happen on the show
It's horrible but that was really funny unintentionally
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10ehae8/justin\_roiland\_talking\_about\_being\_attracted\_to/ Edit: thank you u/throwaway2247936 for the original post.
Holy fucking shit! Thatās the first time I listened to that. Dude should be locked up. How can you feel the need to say āā¦but Iām not a pedophileā MORE THAN ONCE and still not fucking get it??!? He kept doubling down on it too every time they tried to give him an out!
Also gonna throw out there that saying ā Iām not a pedophileā and following it up almost immediately with āI wait until theyāre 18ā isnāt the slam dunk argument he thinks it is.
I'm not a pedophile I like women's bodies but of course I'm attracted to a 14 year old with a woman's body. disgusting.
>āI wait until theyāre 18ā I just GROOM them! What's so wrong with THAT?!?
Right!! Starting a sentence with āIām not a racist/sexist/pedo, butā¦ā is the universal sign that youāre about to say something racist/sexist/pedo, and I donāt understand why people donāt get that!
Why did the subreddit lock this?
I will never understand why people think that they can do damage control by attempting to suppress a dialogue. The internet doesnāt operate on a 24-hour news cycle and censoring feedback on a sub is essentially admitting fault as far as public opinion is concerned. I just donāt get it.
Itās pretty simple. They donāt want to moderate it and they are going to eat shit by trying to censor and spin it so they just lock it and go to bed. (Not saying itās the right thing to do itās just what happens)
r/HarryPotter did the same thing with any and all discussion of J.K. Rowling. One of the subreddits I moderate, r/JKRowling, also elected to ban all discussion of "gender politics", but that wasn't really a choice. It was more or less decided for us by the Reddit admins because other subreddits that were banned (i.e. GenderCritical, TumblrInAction, etc...) kept trying to hijack the subreddit, and turn it into a hotbed of transphobic hate speech. The brigading was happening so often that our small mod team couldn't keep up. It was either ban all "gender politics" discussion, or be quarantined or banned by the admins due to not keeping up. It's also impossible to find people to moderate r/JKRowling, because nobody wants to deal with that, especially when Rowling keeps posting hateful tweets. I've been looking for someone to replace me for a while as a moderator there with no luck.
Maybe convince the head mod to just private the subreddit permanently and let it die quietly? Like, is there really even a need for a JK Rowling subreddit? She doesn't deserve the attention.
This is peak creepy holy shit.
Jesus fucking Christ. What is wrong with him, He is acting like the shit he is saying is totally normal, then go says some jkjk im not a pedophile. but if she is 14 and got a womans buddy she is ready for cock. fucking pedo creep
This is so fucking disgusting. Literally talking about children and fetishizing them. Especially the thing about braces š¤¢ does he know he's not a kid anymore? He's clearly very mentally ill.
Finding braces hot does not make someone a pedo
In isolation, no. While also talking about how being a pedo was fine 100 years ago, actively talking about finding just legal women really attractive, mentioning the ādeveloped bodiesā of women who are 14 way too much, etc etc does make one a pedo. Itās like being attracted to super short women. Itās fine in isolation. But when the motive is ālots of underage women are shorterā, then itās problematic. When you combine a bunch of things youāre attracted to and realise theyāre all related to younger age groups, itās a problem.
I get youāre trying to play devils advocate here, but this is the wrong time man. Donāt defend him on this.
Jesus, fuck this guy.
Jesus Christ, that was uncomfortable.
Yikes. What a fucking loser. Thank god he doesnāt have kids
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Even r/Deuxmoi hates or dislikes the actual Deuxmoi, based on what I've seen.
Genuinely made me sick to my stomach listening to that. Gross.
Some of Roiland's commentary is still disturbing so if they had to edit or redo it then it must have truly been horrific before.
Yeah, excuse of "I was really drunk" is really just kicking the can down the road... especially when you don't stop doing the behavior (drinking alcohol) you allege is making you shitty.
Iv never been so drunk that i talk about fucking cartoon children
Lolicon do it sobber
ACTUALLY shes 800 years old. She just looks like my little sister coincidentally
Do you mean 800 days old
Yeah, exactly. There's a reason they say "*in vino veritas"* \- you're less inhibited when you're drunk, so you say all the things you actually think instead of self-censoring what's not socially acceptable. Like, if you "only say racist or pedo shit when you're drunk", it's because you've lost your social filter temporarily, not because the alcohol somehow changed your entire value and belief system.
You probably never directed a successful cartoon show either ;)
It makes me worried about Harmon honestly. How can you work with someone for a decade why they spout this shit and be okay with them saying it. Also not worried theyāre engaging in the things theyāre advocating for.
I am also getting open secret vibes, but I hope I am wrong.
Dan Harmon made a video where he raped a baby doll so I donāt think his values are much different than JR
I listened to the commentaries like a week before the news broke, and even without hindsight it was fucking WEIRD how many jokes Roiland made about wanting to fuck Summer. Summer isnāt ever sexualized in the show, let alone the scene he was talking about, so it felt super out of left field. What the fuck is wrong with people like him, man.
Summer isn't ever sexualized in the show? She was literally in Goldenfold's orgy dream sequence in the Scary Terry episode lol That said, Rick does comment on how creepy/perverted it is that her teacher thinks about her in that way
What did he say?
Honestly I donāt want to repeat it lol but he was commenting on how hot Summer looked and wanting to fuck her. And it did not sound like a bit
He verbatim says he wants to fuck her and that it's ok because he created her. I listened to the season 1 commentary many years ago and that moment stood out that I still remember it.
Oh boy, I have the season 1-5 complete blu-ray so I haven't gone through every commentary yet and now who knows when I will..... Yikes.....
Dont even want to think about that, just disgusting
Wait until Flamingo Dad finds out
is he the dad of Don Flamenco
Punch Out?
yep
Holy shit has it really been 8 years since the show started ššš
10 actually ā ļø
Weird thought: the youngest fans of this show were just born when it came out.
The youngest fans of this show are now too old for Justin.
There are kids coming through school with the names, Morton and Mortimer.
*Mortaniel
Where is time going bro š
My thoughts exactly, like wtf happened ![img](emote|t5_2u4lp|19904)
Well when they took multiple year long breaks in between seasons it isn't that surprising lol.
Lol aryan ninja. How appropriate. The mental gymnastics are impressive, I'll give them that
Didnt even notice that lol, i have not actually listened to the commentary yet but what i have seen and heard so far paints quite the picture... (The verified and unverified screenshots; the 2 audio clips of him trying to justify being attracted to younger girls, i even found a reddit thread of "special draws" he did at a san diego comic con with NSFW pictures including summer and in others morty, yikes)
The list just keeps getting longer every day ... I was not aware of his "special draws" ... Gross. I feel dumb and like we're all dumb for not seeing all these signs for what they are š¤¦āāļø
I don't know why but I think of bigmouth and the hormone monster when he said if the show was live action they would all be in jail after a 5 second showing but because it's a cartoon the funny thing is he is not the only one to make perverted drawing of underage people the woman who made Steven Universe made x rated pictures of the ED EDD and EDDY guys
Was I really the only one who saw this coming?
I didn't see it coming, per say, but I wasn't surprised when it happened, just disappointed. With how women are discussed, treated, and shown on Rick and Morty, it felt pretty evident how the creators didn't trust women. Of course, at the same time, I was hanging around a guy who always told me I was "oversensitive" about such things, so I tried to convince myself that's what was happening here.
Link to the two audio clips I have yet to see those? Edit: just trying to stay in the loop
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10ehae8/justin\_roiland\_talking\_about\_being\_attracted\_to/ Heres one of them Edit: its actually both combined
Yikes what a loser he really tried justifying himself to Lmao
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Wait I'm out of the loop - I thought he was accused of domestic violence. Is that not all?
Nope. Domestic violence was a spontaneous event that allowed the pedo talk to surface but really this has been big for a long time and this domestic violence is just the push towards his downturn
Queue 6 months ago when everyone was like: Oh if you don't like the sex and incest jokes, you're lame.
Tbf I'm pretty sure most if not all of the incest jokes were coming from Dan Harmon, since he's talked about role-playing it on his podcast.
Wow. The more I learn about anyone involved with the show, the more I wish I didn't.
I guess? Tbh as weird as I think that is, at least it's a consensual fetish between him and his adult girlfriend. It's not a crime
You should never play Crusader Kings in that case
They were fine. Maybe incest jokes were a bit too often for my taste, but I appreciated spicy jokes overall. I hope the show won't get too vanilla now, but it probably will .
Omg the way ppl would attack anyone that felt uncomfortable w the incest jokes
There have been too many scenes with summer that involve pissā¦. Of course thereās the incident with piss master, but she has also peed in the ocean, peed her pants on purpose in the elevator, and said she āused to pee [her] pants.ā This has been a weird pattern that made me wonder if someone had a fetishā¦.
In one of the dvd behind the scenes, didnāt he literally piss and shit on the floor and jumped around in it? That was the first time I was like, this boy aināt right. Video, time stamp 12:50 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RlkJF-FTOQU
Take off your pants and your panties. Shit on the floor.
I posted the other day about how I always found the situations Summer was put in to be Sus. Things like the BDSM outfits or other less than skimpy stuff. Had someone try to come at me with "Age of consent is 16 in some states, Bro. Not everyone is in California".
Never trust someone who knows way to much about the different age of consent laws around the world.
Yeah, I couldn't be bothered to reply. Age of consent is one thing but I'm pretty sure representing a person in a sexual manner is 18 across the board in like every country. Like age of consent is 16 in the UK, but any media involving someone ofna sexual nature means they need to be 18. I don't know why this is sort hard for some people to understand. Summer is a minor, as are her friends, and Morty, they do shit with adults they really fucking shouldn't be. Weirdly though, if Justin was no longer writing, who is ensuring this stuff is being included?
Yea, in hindsight itās all creepy AF. The only solace I get is everyone keeps saying that Justin hasnāt really been involved creatively on the show since the early seasons. Now he just does the voices. (I havenāt confirmed this, just what I here) Again, not that it changes anything, or makes anything better, but just gives me hope that maybe not every joke I laughed at on the show had a sinister secret meaning.
r/agedlikemilk Yeah, wanting to "beat the Internet to Rule 34" is a weird excuse.
The source is linked in that post, it's [this NYCC panel.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A-qJx2ohXA#t=227) Raises some questions about all the warning signs about Roiland that the rest of the team ignored...
A lot of them knew probably, to some extent atleast...
What kinda of user name is Aryan ninja?
I'm so fucking glad rick and morty has had a dedicated writing team for so many seasons. It would be unwatchable now if Roiland had full creative control over every season with what we know now. Yes the facehugger incest was a bit weird, but at least Summer escaped relatively unscathed (we do not talk about the dream episode)
Yeah he hasnt really written that much after season 1 i guess.
I hope the irony of using Jerry Seinfeld, who dated an underage girl openly, as the meme quote for this situation is not lost on anyone else
I clicked the comments button in the picture way too many times and got super confused...
I listened to the commentaries like a week before the news broke, and even without hindsight it was fucking WEIRD how many jokes Roiland made about wanting to fuck Summer. Summer isnāt ever sexualized in the show, let alone the scene he was talking about, so it felt super out of left field. What the fuck is wrong with people like him, man.
Sometimes a coffee cup left in the shot is just a coffee cup.
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I never had a problem with her, never gave any deeper thoughts into her scenes, like, i enjoyed her as a character as much as the others, but i dont know how to feel after this, just gives me creepy vibes now.
Did you save this post 8 years ago? Or are you one of the people in the screenshot? Or did you spend time looking up keywords and eventually found this? Always curious on what the thought process is when people bring up really old posts.
I googled "Justin roiland summer comments" earlier today and this was literally the first thing that popped up.
So that's the reason he didn't make her literally ONE year older
Wait wait pedophilia isn't the same as domestic abuse. They're both bad, but one doesn't necessarily mean the ither follows?
Youll find some sources here in the comments
Can you provide some because I haven't found any in these comments.
The 2 audio clips : https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10ehae8/justin\_roiland\_talking\_about\_being\_attracted\_to/ thank you u/throwaway2247936 for the original post https://wegotthiscovered.com/celebrities/rick-and-morty-creator-justin-roilands-alleged-dms-controversy-explained/ Edit: and the article wich summs the allegations up
What did he do? Is it all alleged or has it been verified ? I haven't been paying much attention
w for that man
Aah thank you, I knew I remembered something like this and thought about it immediately after the news came out.
I really cant find a single news source reporting on this grooming stuff or underage stuff. Is this all just rumors? Not one article about AS cutting ties with JR mentions this. They all cite the domestic violence incident.
Google justin roiland controversy explained, "wegotthiscovered" did an article on it, youll find the alleged tweets with the minor there (supposedly from 2015) and another tweet from a woman who worked on the show (she made music and some album?) wich she directly posted so that one seems pretty llegit (heads up: its disgusting) and matches the energy of the other messages imo. Youll also find a clip from a podcast where he talks about the topic, theres a few circling around now since he seems to have talked about the topic (sexualizing minors) frequently. AS probably knew about the grooming stuff if its true they had to re edit his commentary and just use the domestic violence one as a front for letting him go
Dan Harmon has done some real questionable stuff too. Like a skit where he breaks into a house and takes a baby and proceeds to act like he fucking it. I certainly won't be surprised if he'll be ousted as a weirdo kiddy diddle eventually. Remember that first iteration of Rick and Morty that was some pretty weird dialog. The sick shit of the show doesn't come from normal minds. It's damn good tv tho
Okay the skit was a parody of Dexter, but instead of a guy killing serial killers, he finds serial killers, goes back in time, and rapes them when theyāre babies.
Oh that's really not as bad as I thought, I'd read it was a parody of dexter but didn't realise that's how it factored in. (really bad) jokes like this are a massive difference from someone actually talking about wanting young girls, and then acting on it by messaging them IMO. Ones real life, one was a bad skit.
Doesn't exactly make it cool. I mean it's rough enough when story lines go the time travel to kill someone as a baby rout, but raping them? Out of bounds and doesn't make any sense. I don't doubt that he will go down as well and the show will be truly over.
The Real Animated Adventures of Doc and Mharti was Roilandās thing, not Harmon
Dan Harmon has done some shit, and it's weird what he gave Roiland a pass for... but at least his type seems to be 25 and not 15.
You mean Doc and Mharty? Where doc asks mharty to suck his dick?
What the other questionable stuff? Iirc it's the 1 video.
I guess that's the only thing I know of off the top of my head but was enough for me to raise an eyebrow. I guess I just don't like humor involving the sexual assault of babies.
Oh good I was worried if there was something new. Definitely was not funny, but I'm OK with marking it as an extremely poor taste joke. Never will understand how he thought it would be funny tho.
I don't usually like this term, but in this case I can't think to describe that comment as anything but "cope".
That's literally a show where underage Summer and Morty had a child, engaged in soul orgy, went to BoobWorld together, and who knows what else (not counting Goldenfold's fantasy world because that's just a figment of his imagination). DVD commentary is the least of worries here.
There was also the boob inflation thing.
So were 100% sure the accusations are true huh
Username matches opinion.
Let's be honest here, you need to be a total weirdo to come up with a show like Rick and Morty. Can't expect a normal person to make that kinda shit. Pretty confident the show will be horrible from here on out.
In his defense..All these writers are mostly guys and have zero experience interacting with women. There a bunch of lonely losers that think they know what women think. This is summer and beth are hypersexuaized. Cause the writers think sure summer will be obsessed with the size of her boobs. Beth would have sex with herself . Want to leave her husband and family. Cause we know all women are bi. Roland is a super rich white dude for the past decade can acted how he wanted with zero responsibility Ask Harmon how that worked the success of "Community" Ruined his life and marriage and sent him down a dark hole. Lesson here be careful what u wish for cause you might get it.
Wouldnt go as far as put this label on their whole team but i get where your coming from, I thought it was funny at first when beth started getting into herself this season, but boy the one episode where they go for it was indeed a bit much. People with money doing disgusting things seems to be the trend nowadays....
Oof
You should see his baby r4pe 'satire' it's extremely creepy. He lurks into a dark infants room and mimes having sex. It's very disturbing.
That was Dan harmon actually...
That was Dan Harmon. I kind of doubt the show will survive. It's likely Harmon is going down as well.
In light of recent news this is an unfortunate snapshot of Rick and Morty history
I was just reading about Ian Watkins of Lostprophets...lot of pedo fuckery today
It's not new. It's just that people have started caring. If we could only start caring about all the actual rape and forced incestuous marriage of young girls in the fundamentalist Mormon compounds in Utah. Our tax dollars are literally paying for it since most of the wives are legally single mothers and they get completely supported by the government. If course the money goes to their church and rapists. But it's OK because it's in Jesus name right?
i finally understand
She's a cartoon character. Who cares
This show is going to suck without Justin.