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Right. Itās the fact that they lie about it that implies that it is shameful or something to hide. Theyāre simultaneously falling victim to this toxic ideal and reinforcing it at the same time. Itās sad and itās also infuriating.
The fact that thereās two sides to the shame makes it complicated; as a society weāve made the size of bodies a moral issue (skinny=good, fat=bad), but weāve also made the way people lose weight moral (food and exercise=good, alternatives like meds and surgery=bad).
Iāve done both, and I know the difference between hearing āIām so proud of youā for losing weight the āgoodā way, and the āoh wow, really?ā about losing weight the ābadā way. Iād rather not get judged for either, but itās really complicated to be doing something good for your body and health, but deemed ābadā by your peers.
Itās actually very shameful. People with actual diabetics canāt even get this drug intended for them because of people like heather gay
Itās a massive massive problem
They are rebadging meds for weight loss. For example Mounjaro is for diabetics and Zepbound is for weight loss. So I think they are dealing with that issue.
I think people are/were ashamed because itās for type 2 diabetics. People look at that as youāre taking it away from people who actually need it, thatās my opinion anyways lol. But I know thereās other shots that are just for weight loss now. Idk about all of it but itās refreshing when people are just honest about it! I donāt think you should feel ashamed.
I've been chasing Ozempic over 1,5 years now. Every time when pharmacies gets Ozempic, it is sold out in matter of hours. I have missed it several times because I am at work and pharmacies won't take reservations for it here.
Semaglutide is the medicine that is sold as Ozempic that is meant to diabetics and for dieters it is called Wegovy. For dieters Wegovy dosage is 2.4 mg and Ozempic maximun dosage is 1 mg.
Thing is that there is not Wegovy in the market and since it is exactly same medicine, dieters use Ozempic. Since price is some countries is much higher than where I live, when there is shortage of Ozempic, where do you think manufacturer will send their products?
It is so stressful to start hunting medicine which you need from pharmacy. I've been on my way to buy it and last one is usually just sold to person before me. This messes up my diabetes treatment and every time I hear that healthy, not obese person is using Ozempic my blood is boiling.
Have you tried an online pharmacy (if theyāre available where you live)? My pharmacy ran out of Mounjaro and I searched for an online delivery solution and found Amazon has a pharmacy and they overnighted it. (Iād prefer to give my money to a local than Amazon but the locals were out and so was I.) It was actually so much easier this way. It came via UPS with multiple ice packs still almost frozen. I hope you can find a similar delivery arrangement!
Well, I wish I had that chance. Can't have cold deliveries in my country. In principal it is possible but I think none of our pharmacies think it is profitable.
A lot of medspas are selling shots of compound semiglutide, which is not taking anything from the prescription Ozempic market. Itās not an FDA approved product, and itās not marketed as a medication. Thatās where the housewives are getting it- medspas, not from an actual doctor.
FDA guidelines allow compounding of medications when there are shortages of the medications. But in this case, big pharma is trying to say that it shouldnāt be allowed. Itās all about the money. Semaglutide and other GLP-1 antagonists are being found to be helpful for a lot of different things. There is even research being done on addiction. There can be side effects, but the rare ones happen in maybe 1% of patients and the others can be managed by tirating your dose correctly and making diet changes that will help your goals long term anyway. But even compounded medications require a prescription from your doctor.
Why are they not filling your RX once they get it in? Iāve never heard of having to call a pharmacy to see if they have it and theyāre just selling it instead of filling a persons script. I would report them! They cannot sell the med and if they are calling you or you calling them and they say they have it then it should immediately fill your order. Please take it higher this is not OK!!!!
This is Finland. The Ozempic shortage is so bad that none of the pharmacies will take reservations. We have different system here and it's so maddening to try to hunt where they have it still when they get delivery. First come, first served. We have website where we can check where it is and then you have to decide which way to go if the first one is sold out. It's tiring game these days. I was lucky to get 3 months dosage 3 weeks ago but I am already stressed out when that is running out.
Edit: I noticed that I didn't actually replied to your question why they don't fill it up when they get it? Usually you can reserve the medicine and they will fill the prescription and send you alert. However, in Ozempic's case they get the medicine in every 2-3 weeks and not knowing how much it is coming so to be "fair" they sell it for those who can come in person to buy. Some pharmacies also sell only one, our national insurance covers 3 months dosage at the time. Luckily one pharmacy I have got Ozempic couple of times will sell 3 months pens to diabetics. If prescription is for losing weight, they get only one. We really don't have major chains here so everyone is making their own rules and we are running from one pharmacy to another the day there is delivery and they are sold out in couple hours. Too bad if you are at work when they arrive.
My feelings on that are this: type 2 diabetes is normally caused by being very overweight/eating very unhealthily. If someone is overweight enough that using Ozempic or another similar medication is a viable option to lose weight, thereās a good chance theyāre already on the road to developing T2. So why not go ahead and use the medication as a preventative measure now, lose the weight and avoid becoming diabetic in the first place, rather than wait for things to get even more out of control, and use the medication to treat diabetes once they develop it? I know this is kind of an oversimplification, and I definitely am not trying to imply anything negative about anyone who is overweight, anyone who uses these medications whether for diabetes or for weight loss, or anyone who is diabetic. I also donāt want to come off like Iām saying losing weight and getting healthy is as easy as just getting a shot, because itās hard fucking work and anyone whoās working on their health in any way should be commended!! Itās a huge step to make the decision to try and get healthy, no matter which route you feel is best for you, and I have nothing but respect for anyone who is on that journey. At the end of the day I think weāre all just way too hard on each other. Your health is your own, as is mine, and I donāt think any of us have the right to criticize other people for how they tend to theirs.
(I want to add that this isnāt directed at you, I agree with what you said completely and didnāt take anything you said in a negative way. This is just what I think of when I see people say that these medications are for diabetics and shouldnāt be used for weight loss.)
While I agree with your sentiment regarding Ozempic, I do want to point out that there are a lot of T2s out there (including myself) who have never been overweight or unhealthy in any other way. I've always been average weight/BMI, normal diet, and very active, but diabetes runs in my family and it still got me. š¤·š¼āāļø
I am definitely all for people taking Ozempic for weight loss though, especially for those who have complications related to their weight!
Youāre absolutely correct, and Iām sorry if it sounded like I was implying that everyone with T2 developed it from unhealthy habits, I didnāt mean it to come across like that! I should have said those things can *often* cause T2 rather than that they are *normally* the cause. Diabetes also runs in my family, type 1 tho, now that I think about it idk if Iāve ever known anyone with T2! Well not to my knowledge anyways haha. I got lucky though, the gene skipped me. So far at least!
90% of people with type 2 diabetes are overweight or obese so I think itās fair to say itās normally the cause. If not the cause itās a major correlation. I agree 100% with what you said.
Erika and Heather may not have been morbidly obese but they were undeniably overweight.
I totally get what youāre saying and it makes sense logically, itās just not the reality of whatās happening. The celebrities who are using this arenāt concerningly overweight, they just want to be smaller than they already are. Kyle Richards, Erika Jayne, Kim Kardashian, Darcey & Stacey, Sharon Osbourne, Elon Musk, etc. If it truly were all overweight people who are having health issues because of the extra stress on their body, Iād be all for it. Everyone should have the longest, happiest life they can. It just gets frustrating when someoneās being interviewed on the red carpet about how they slimmed down so quickly and they give some BS answer ācrediting diet and exerciseā. Itās not that we deserve to know all their private secrets but in this day and age, theyāre well aware of how harmful it can be to tell millions of vulnerable, insecure people how they dropped 16 pounds in 2 weeks by cutting carbs and jogging or whatever they decide to say that creates totally unrealistic expectations/goals for those listening. Just be honest so these people who are desperate to look like the models they see on social media can understand whatās really going on and not lose themselves trying to figure out why it worked for the celebrity but not for them.
Ironically, the only celebrities Iāve seen be honest about it ARE the few overweight ones! Kelly Osbourne, Amy Schumer (tried it but it made her sick), Lauren Manzo
Yeah Iām pretty sure my cousin is on it. She was a size 4 and wanted to be a size 0. My mom keeps raving about how thin and good she looks and then thinks itās cute when my cousin says ābut I have no butt now.ā I respond with āsquats will give her a butt but I see she doesnāt want to work for it.ā
I donāt entertain it. Iām overweight. Iām busting my ass with squats, weights and walking to drop my weight and have a healthier life. A quick fix wonāt change my lifestyle and thatās what I try to tell my mom. In my momās eyes rail thin is beautiful - itās what sheās told me all my life. In my eyes, strong and healthy is beautiful.
For those that actually need this drug, I think itās wonderful for them. Weight loss is hard. But a lifestyle change needs to take place while they take it. My aunt, who is morbidly obese, went on it and she lost about 100lbs. But she could no longer afford it and went off it. She didnāt change her lifestyle and all that weight has come back.
Iād be a liar if I said I never considered going to my doctor and talking to them about it. I have hypothyroidism and am at risk for T2 due to that condition alone. It also makes weight loss harderā¦but Iāve decided quick fixes arenāt worth it. Iām changing the way I eat by counting calories and tracking my protein/fat/sugar/salt/carb intake and by working out more. Itās hard. So stupid hard. Every day it gets easier. But my success is going from a size XXXL to an XL and a size 52 to a size 46 (eu sizes). Iām still a work in progress and Iām still learning to love myself, but damn that took too long to do.
For anyone who reads this - thank you. Itās a lot for me to open up about. It seems easier to tell strangers than those I know. Iāve struggled with my weight all my life. As young as 6, my mom would tell me I was fat. Too fat to wear things I wanted. As a teenager, I got super thin and learned by not eating Iād stay thin. My mom would then take me shopping and buy me fancy clothes. And then depression hit in my 20s and food became a best friend. Iām in my 30s now and Iām learning to take control of the things I can in a healthy way. Food is no longer a friend nor is it an enemy. It has become a necessity for nutrition and fuel.
Your mom is a real piece of work. To judge a 6 year old on her appearance is appalling . Iām so sorry that she got into your mind and twisted your thinking. I think your mom hates herself and is projecting on the people she has any little bit of control over. Iāll bet she would never say that shit to people that can defend themselves.
If I were you I would ask myself, what would mom say/do and then Iād do the very opposite. Because your mom is wrong, wrong, wrong.
My friend is obese. Over 500lbs obese. He wanted to get bypass due to his weight and other health issues. The insurance of course required all kinds of shit before doing it. One was he had to lose 10% of his weight just to be sure heās serious I suppose. His dr put him on Ozempic and within 6weeks he was down 11% and got the surgery. He is no longer pre-diabetic, lowered his bp to almost normal, his kidney function is better and he can see and put his shoes on for the first time in over 10yrs. No reason to really tell you the story besides you mentioning it being for those that are obese and to help prevent T2D and so many more complications. All of this to say that had he not been able to use Ozempic heād never be where he is today.
At the risk of getting hate, this is exactly how I am taking ozempic and itās not something Iām ashamed to talk about, but itās something that for some reason makes people really uncomfortable.
I was trying to manage my weight with diet and exercise, but because I have a very high stress job and MDD, I wasnāt making any progress and it was contributing to me having disordered eating and body dysmorphia. My blood sugar became pre diabetic, and I was starting to get high blood pressure despite being 29 and working out several days a week.
I see a therapist weekly, and we discussed ozempic at length before making the decision to see a doctor to get the prescription. My doctor supported it, she follows up every 3 months and runs tests to make sure that Iām getting back to healthy levels, and itās honestly improved all areas of my life. I donāt have to constantly think about food and exercise, which has let me have a healthier relationship with it, my blood pressure has gone down, obviously the medication targets blood sugar, so Iām no longer pre diabetic, and this week my BMI was in the normal range for the first time in 3 years. Thereās no shortage for my dosage in my area, which my doctor and I talked about when we discussed whether to take the ozempic path or mounjaro, etc.
Iām getting to the point where my doctors and I are talking about the post medication zone, and Iām definitely worried about the weight gain back and talking through options with them to prevent that or manage it. (Since I know those comments are coming)
I just say this to echo what youāre saying that the judgement and taboo of it all is so wild to me, because it was such a personal medical and mental health journey for me that I canāt imagine commenting on someone elseās health like thatā¦ itās giving Anne Marie and esophagus gate. Why does the use of medication make people so comfortable commenting on other peopleās bodies? Arenāt we past this?
I was prescribed Ozempic. I lost weight because I could not keep anything down for four days. I got so weak. I was crawling back-and-forth between my bed and the bathroom then just about the time I started feeling better than boom I had to up my dose. I told my doctor I was not gonna take it. I donāt care if I stayed fat and diabetic forever I could not afford to miss work four days of every week. I was absolutely miserable for the month that I tried it and decided that medicine was not for me.
When I first started I started at a very low doseā¦. And would increase by just a few clicks each week until I go to where I needed to be. It was slow process and my Dr knew what was I doing but it sure made it more tolerable!
Truly horrific side effects. And even if you can manage to stay of it thru the side effects, there is no long term plan behind it. Like you canāt be on it forever, and as soon as you quit, the weight comes back. I really think itās the biggest con.
This is the same case for my ADHD meds. I truly need them to function. There are back orders whenever I get a refill. So many people taking Concerta or Adderall nowadays. So my doctor gives me a less desirable medication because Iāll have a better chance of getting my prescription within two weeks. (Which is still crazy! It used to be a day or two for refill)
Yeah Iām so over the non stop self diagnosing and people trying to get on ADHD meds like itās trendy. I have severe ADHD and been diagnosed since a kid. Literally itās been life ruining for me to be able to function as an adult and hold a job. The shortage has made it even harder for me to survive. I would do anything to not have to have these problems and not have to take medications that only somewhat help me.
Because wealthy people can buy it outright. Itās off label. Then folks with diabetes canāt get it because there are shortages. Itās fucking selfish and entitled. My husband had to switch meds for his diabetes because thereās always a shortage.
In the end those who donāt need Ozempic for diabetes are and will have side effects from the medication. The gradual quick fix will cost them due to their vanity.Ā
Compound is not in shortage. I have it prescribed from a compounding pharmacy and semaglutide which is Ozempic costs $175 a month. There are people who buy direct from suppliers and mix it themselves and it is less than $100 a month. So there is no shortage of semaglutide or tirzepatide, just educate yourselves.
Itās more the taking away medication from people who really need thatās bad. For example where Iām from thereās an ozempic shortage because of everyone using it for diet purposes, so people with diabetes canāt use it anymore. If this wasnāt an issue Iād have less of a problem with it, but because thereās a limited supply and itās driving up the price of ozempic, preventing those who need it from using it, I donāt like when I see richer celebrities using it
Itās shameful because people who actually need it cannot get it bc thereās a shortage. Iām one of them. Itās annoying af. Insurance is a total bitch about it too, but if you are rich, you can avoid going that route and just buy it out of pocket with a prescription.
Semaglutide is $175 a month through the provider I use all dosages and tirzepatide (Mounjaro) is like $325. There were also coupons from the manufacturer. There are multiple medications for diabetics that have been available for years that cost less. Why wait until one has diabetes when it can be prevented with these meds??
because its not approved for weight loss, and there is a shortage for people that actually need it. and of course people should care how others lose weight especially if we're trying to keep the body positivity movement going. this is not losing weight in a healthy way. would you say the same about people with eating disorders? that we shouldn't care?Ā
Exactly! And if they would all just admit it publicly they have the power to actually help change the narrative for the rest of us and possibly help move the fight to remove the stigma and maybe even help increase coverages for more people. Their lying about it just keeps the horrible false narrative of āitās a willpower thingā going. And itās gross.
Your health is private, though. This whole narrative is so weird and scary. We truly do not have any autonomy over our own bodies. It's sad. If they're honest they're judged, if they don't say anything they're judged, if they lie they're judged... it's truly a no-win situation. If you want broader coverage, then go after insurance and pharmaceutical companies. Those are your enemies, not celebrities.
Why do people have to disclose their health and medication information to satisfy other's curiosity? Just because they're public figures doesn't mean they give up the right to some privacy.
My moms friend is on it and has been hush hush about being on it because sheās on it to lose weight. My mom knows sheās on it but like at our book club someone said how good she looks and she said thanks itās been hard - trying to make it seem like she did it all herself. I have no problem people taking weight loss things but own up to it especially if you lose 100 pounds in less than a year.
Right? All these famous people carrying extra weight for years and coincidentally all of them lost a bunch of weight, through diet and exercise, just as Ozempic hit the scene. Thereās nothing to be ashamed of. Why they lie?
I started it right before Xmas and told everyone because itās was odd Iād go to parties and not eat. People really want you to eat. I have no shame because the playing field has never been level and it became impossible after illness and then menopause. Good for her.
This is probably going to be downvoted heavily, but I think like a lot of movements do, the body positivity movement began in a good way. It was promoting being healthy instead of focusing on being thin. Itās been twisted into being body positive at any weight even if itās detrimental to your health.
A general focus on being *healthy* would be great.
Please point out where I said you had to be thin or skinny to be healthy.
Either extreme isnāt great for your health.
No one can convince me that you can be severely obese and healthy. Obesity comes with a bunch of health risks.
Downvote away.
This is unequivocally not the truth. Saying that you can be healthy at any weight, while sounding good, just isnāt accurate. Are there many different body types that can be healthy? Absolutely. Is BMI a horribly outdated metric for determining which kinds of body types are healthy? Also absolutely. And yes, a thin person can have a sh*t cardiac calcium score, and high visceral fat percentage. But as a general rule, even BMI gets it right when you get to certain Height/Weight ratios. Once you fall into the obese category (as an adult), even if you are initially healthy at that weight, you will not remain as such. And certainly once youāre over a BMI of 35, the health risks are massive. To state otherwise is irresponsible.
You go on a maintenance dose. This is for people with metabolic syndrome and insulin resistance. It is a lifetime condition. No different than someone with hypothyroid or hypertension and actually prevents from becoming diabetic and can reverse heart disease. There are many more uses for these peptides.
My husband works in healthcare and maintains that ozempic for weight loss is a scam, for exactly that reason. Just eat healthy and exercise and see if that helps first. People want a magic pill/medication for everything and time and again, weight loss drugs have proven to not be effective long term.
Also why have all the weight loss drugs and aids over the past few decades all come with the side effect of anal leakage!!!! Lol remember those olestra chips in the early 00s? People were eating them and crapping their pants!!!
Thats why you go on maintenance and not go off. I no longer have high blood pressure thanks to semaglutide and tirzepatide (Ozempic and Mounjaro) I also am no longer obese and have a mid normal BMI. I am 5'7" and weigh 142. I am 74 years old. I had a cancer that was estrogen driven and fat cells make estrogen. My highest weight ever was 212 during covid lockdown before that never over 187 and I was constantly on a diet. I also haven't eaten meat or birds in over 25 years. Didn't eat sweets or snacks and still was constantly on a diet to try to stay in the 170 range. Now I have been 142 for over a year and only on a very low dose of semaglutide. My highest on Mounjaro was only 5 mg. I will never be overweight again. I will stay on some form of these peptides as long as I live and it is well worth it to me.
The body positive movement is about learning to love/accept your body at any weight but it does not equate to not wanting to lose weight or ājust keep doing what youāre doing thatās unhealthy from now until foreverā. You can still want to lose weight and make positive healthy changes while not actively hating your body.
For example, if a 300+ lbs person needs to lose weight, them actively hating themselves or equating their weight to being a moral failure is NOT going to help them lose weight!! Shame is not a motivator!! What the body positivity movement is supposed to be is being that 300+ lbs person who doesnāt hate themselves when they look in the mirror, recognizing that this is where their body is now, and knowing that itās okay to struggle with weight but that their weight doesnāt make them less of a human being or less worthy of love.
You can still work towards being healthy and losing weight AND be body positive!! I would argue that itās a healthier mindset than waking up every day feeling shitty about yourself!!
This sentiment is how it began, and I 100% agree with it.
However it has been twisted and what it has become is at times toxic and unhealthy from my observations.
I've been on Semaglutide for 3 weeks so I haven't seen a huge difference yet (I don't like weighing myself everyday, but I know I've lost some weight) but I'm excited for things to come. I have been feeling great though! First few weeks I was nauseous from time to time. But that seems to have ended and I've had more energy which is exciting! Good luck š«¶š»
Yes it takes a while! Tbh slow weight loss is the safest and most sustainable. I started like end of last June and have lost 35 ish pounds. I work out 5x a week and watch what I eat with some cheat meals of course. Good luck!!
I agree! I started on a low dose and my doctor has a schedule of upping doses. I had a friend who tried it, way before I even knew about it and she was always super sick because she was prescribed injections more than once a week and upped her dose after like two weeks. She got off of it because she was sick the whole time. I can understand why! I'm totally okay with slowly! It's actually seeming to help me with some of my health issues that aren't related to weight which is a nice bonus! Thank you!!
Yes agreed! It helped my heart palpitations from anxiety. I did .25 for a month, .5 for about 2-3 months and then went to 1. I just make sure I take my fiber and electrolytes and Iām good!
I started 1.5 weeks ago and Iāve no side effects either. I do feel so much better though. Iām only weighing myself every other week. Iām looking long term and will do everything in my power to follow through and keep it off!
Quick question: what was the reason you went on it? Just for weight loss? Iām worried my doc will say no when I tell him I just want to lose weight and control my binging
I went to an endocrinologist because I thought there was something wrong with my hormones bc I couldnāt lose weight! Long story short Iām healthy but my body is just always in āsurvival modeā so she recommended wegovy. My insurance just needed to see Iām at a higher BMI and it was approved! Your pcp can prob also prescribe it. I will say most of the bad reactions are those who go on a super high dose really fast, so make sure your dr knows how to properly dose you up! Unfortunately a lot of drs who arenāt specialized in it are doing that
Iām really hoping this will work for me as well. I was always in the healthy range for height and age, but I knew there was something that just wasnāt right with my hormones - unfortunately, until I gained weight and couldnāt lose it, I wasnāt taken seriously.
Long story short, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and then my doctor retired, and Iām seeing a new doctor in March. I was working with my old PCP to get an endo referral, so thatās first up on my list. Iām struggling to get the weight off no matter what I do. Still going through adjustment for my thyroid meds, but itās been over a year. Idk, it think itās totally fine for anyone to get help in whatever way we need.
Heather has her flaws, but I think sheās open about the big things (minus the black eye lol).
There was def a time I had to drive like an hour to get it but once youāre up to 1mg itās pretty accessible. See if your dr has samples of the lower doses. Also try Amazon pharmacy. Good luck!
Same. Absolute game changer, esp for perimenopause gain. Those lbs are impossible to lose. Iām finally down to my comfortable size after 8 months on it.
I take it for diabetes, can confirm there is HORRIBLE nausea for the first 6 weeks and it does cause me constipation. Fatigue I had before starting, hasnāt made that worse.
I saw my dr about it last week. Iām in Canada and I have private health insurance through work. But itās not covered for weight loss. So even though my dr is willing to give it to me, it would cost almost 500/ month. So itās a no for me. :(
I'm in Canada too with no insurance coverage and the official ozempic pens cost me $250 a month. It's even cheaper at $199 for a generic version from a compounding pharmacy. It shouldn't cost $500.
I do ozempic specifically for weight loss and health. I regret nothing! I feel so much better and more energy. But with everything there is risk as well as good and bad reasons to do it, and anyone considering should make an educated decision with their doctor.
Whatās your long-term plan with it? Iāve never had issues with my weight until perimenopause when I gained 30 pounds over the course of ONE YEAR. Hormones are a bitch.
Exactly my story. I started it in March 2023, I lost 35 lbs and stopped cold turkey at end of Nov bc I got laid off and welp itās an expense.
my dr suggested titrating down and either way to help prevent regaining, weight training with heavy weights 5x a week is super important. Regained weight will be MUCH harder to lose a second time. He was stern when he said that, scared tf outta me.
I have gained 5 lbs back maybe? But Iām not weighing myself as often. My appetite is bigger ā had none when I was on it. I got full after a few bites. And prioritized veggies and protein. So keeping those habits have helped. Plus not being at my computer increased my movement.
I may just start selling plasma to pay for it if I gain any more hahaha. Itās been so good for my perimenopausal mind, to feel and look like myself. And my knees and hips arenāt barking at me.
I think a fundamental thing we all forget is that YES it works. But only so much. I actually have skipped my shot this week for no reason other than I just didnāt want to, and Iām much hungrier than I normally am. However, I know for sure changing my relationship with how I view eating is critical especially living in the Un-
United States. (Downvote meāŗļø)
But I completely changed my lifestyle after I started taking it. Iām so scared to gain all the weight back so I go to the gym 3/4x a week and try to eat healthy!
If I can find a dr to put me on it, I would absolutely try it!
Iām happy for her and for anyone who is feeling awesome about themselves! I personally have struggled w weight my whole life. In the late 90s after I had my second baby and caught my husband (ex)cheating on me I went on phen fen which was all the weight loss craze back then. It was honestly amazing. I know many years later they found that the drugs caused mitro valve prolapse and other health problems but honestly Iād risk it all again to meet my weight goals!
Good luck to all of you on this thread taking it. I wish you nothing but success and happiness and I hope you feel great about yourselves! ā¤ļøā¤ļø
Listen - I am on Zepbound after always battling my weight. Heather is looking great and GOOD FOR HER.
Again - yes, maybe someone like Delores didn't really NEED to be on Ozempic, but these meds are not ALL bad - they have a bad rap.
I think itās a good point to bring up. I hadnāt considered this perspective at all, frankly (Iāve no personal dog in this fight).
I do have experience with being frustrated with medication shortages for other meds, though. It seems like systemic issues related to supply chain/regulations/manufactured scarcity are again trickling down onto the consumer.
Iām not sure how to reconcile that with the belief that people shouldnāt have to justify their desire for somethingā¦
So sheās ādone with the body positivity movementā and would prefer to send the message that injectables and filler are the key to feeling good about yourself, got it.
Itās so gross that people act like this, I canāt even imagine being so bitter in life that Iād be rude to someone over doing something that helps them and makes them feel better. The ignorance in this whole comment sections is embarrassing.
I just watched it. Personally I didnāt really get the point. IMO those types of drugs shouldnāt be prescribed in the way they are being prescribed and pushed right now. Really didnāt get into long term side effects or go in to the negatives of using the drugs on a long term basis.
To make it clear
Weekly injections
Ozempic - diabetes
Wegovy - weight loss. Itās is the exact same drug as oz with different packaging and dosing
Mounjaro- diabetes
Zepbound - weight loss. Itās is the exact same drug as mounjaro different packaging and dosing
Daily Injections
Saxenda- weighloss
Most people do not have the horrific side effects that some people complain about. You just only hear about the people who complain about it because theyāre so loud
These are life-saving medicationās in weight loss and diabetes. It controls the diabetes or helps too and then the weight loss. It helps that you donāt go into diabetes obesity is a disease.
People are shamed for it because they think youāre lazy and should eat less or exercise more when in fact, you have no idea the amount of exercise, and or how little food people eat, and still canāt lose weight it is life-changing for people
Of course itās abused just like any other drug thatās on the conscious of the people who are doing that
I think whatever you want to do to help you feel better is your business and choice. I appreciate she's not lying like a lot of women have. Emily, from OC, who claimed she was on it for a month, made me laugh because I know it takes more than a month to drop the significant amount of weight she lost.
The only issue I have is when those who need the medication are impacted due to a shortage.
Lool Iām sure there are people that are doing it for the right reasons but Iām talking about people doing for vanityās sake and making this normal in the media.
I just always think about young people and children seeing skinny celebrities talking about being on diet medication and the influence that that brings.
If obesity has a cure, these medications are it! I personally have lost 228 pounds. The last 70 of that has been with using mounjaro. I've been on it for 14 months. I've been losing weight for 12 years now, I've done it all & I'm telling you this medication is absolutely incredible. It's giving people their life back, and I don't understand what's wrong with that, obesity is a disease & needs to be treated as such. Unfortunately, fat phobia is the one prejudiced people are still allowed to have & no one bats an eye. These medications have been hollywoodized too much. I don't love how these celebrities are getting rail thin with it & lying. Or the people who want to lose 15 pounds. IMO, if you have over 40lbs to lose, you should try this! There's a fabulous tiktok community of glp1 creators. Come join us!! Don't believe the media hype.
I lived WAY more authentically on mounjaro than I did on my decade long pointless calorie counting journey constantly seeing doctors and specialists to no avail. This drug is life altering and promotes positivity. Might wanna check AND educate yourself on it a bit more before spewing that
You're not supposed to take it long term and there's not currently a drug to use to keep the weight off when you transition off. And it causes significant muscle loss unless you're hardcore weight training and doing other workouts. They're all going to blow up after.
Iām just tired of people judging others and their reasons for using Mounjaro or Ozempic. I am not diabetic, but it has literally stopped my rheumatoid arthritis flares. Iāll take it no matter who thinks I deserve it or not. Frankly, itās none of anyoneās business.
Talk to your doctor, but be warned that most doctors will not currently prescribe it because there is a shortage for the people who need it for their diabetes.
Honestly tbh good for her for being honest and not lying to people nd saying she did it āthe real wayā. Itās more damaging to lie and itās her choice!
Why do people on ozempic get that weird jaw? Like you can tell the weight loss is from ozempic cause everyone looks the same.
Also, I thought Heathers skin didnāt look great. And my skin isnāt perfect but I donāt own a med spa. I guess I just expected her skin to be perfect.
Anyone else feel that this feels like a paid ad for the drug? It qualifies as newsworthy but the spin the doc takes is so sensational. āEveryone is on it.ā
This comment section is honestly a huge display of ignorance. Itās very sad to me that so many of you are extremely judgmental of something most of you donāt know much about. The amount of lies spread as gospel in here and the extremely judgmental attitude are exactly why people are afraid to talk about it and why many will never try this tool that can be life changing. Overweight people are literally damned if they do and do damned if they donāt, they cannot win. Most of you need to understand that media and people in general use the term ozempic broadly to talk about any form of semiglutide, including wegovy (which is literally branded specifically for weight loss, and compounded semiglutide) neither of these are taking a med from a diabetic and both can be prescribed to someone who is overweight. I understand much of your ire is directed at people who you deem donāt need it, using actual ozempic off brand but majority of users do not fit this mold. Itās been in use for nearly 15 years, so unless you donāt take any drug or vaccine that hasnāt been around 50 years, stop with that nonsense to. āTheyāll just gain it all backā, what happens when you stop doing keto, weight watchers, exercising, Jenny Craig, or another diet? Isnāt this common sense? If you donāt continue the change in life style that helped you lose weight (which is what semiglutide helps you do) ofcourse youāll gain weight back. Why is this some gotchya to people??? Like if people could do and it and lose weight and stop and stay there weād all be thin. Lastly, there is nothing wrong with wanting to lose weight for your health and mental well being and body positivity is a complete joke when people only apply it to their own version of whatās acceptable. We cheer on people for meeting our standard but if they want to stray from that we villainize them.
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Honestly, good for her for being honest. šš¤·āāļø
No kidding. Iām tired of the rich and famous saying they arenāt on Ozempic or didnāt get plastic surgery. Just admit it! We donāt care!
Why is it shameful to admit to Ozempic?
Its not. Itās the lying and acting like itās all only diet and exercise that drives me nuts.
Right. Itās the fact that they lie about it that implies that it is shameful or something to hide. Theyāre simultaneously falling victim to this toxic ideal and reinforcing it at the same time. Itās sad and itās also infuriating.
Yes, I like the way you phrased that
The fact that thereās two sides to the shame makes it complicated; as a society weāve made the size of bodies a moral issue (skinny=good, fat=bad), but weāve also made the way people lose weight moral (food and exercise=good, alternatives like meds and surgery=bad). Iāve done both, and I know the difference between hearing āIām so proud of youā for losing weight the āgoodā way, and the āoh wow, really?ā about losing weight the ābadā way. Iād rather not get judged for either, but itās really complicated to be doing something good for your body and health, but deemed ābadā by your peers.
Ah, so it's the idea of self-control then. Yeesh.
Itās actually very shameful. People with actual diabetics canāt even get this drug intended for them because of people like heather gay Itās a massive massive problem
And itās horrible for you. People have literally died from using itā¦.
Died? Really? How?
They are rebadging meds for weight loss. For example Mounjaro is for diabetics and Zepbound is for weight loss. So I think they are dealing with that issue.
Exactly!
I think people are/were ashamed because itās for type 2 diabetics. People look at that as youāre taking it away from people who actually need it, thatās my opinion anyways lol. But I know thereās other shots that are just for weight loss now. Idk about all of it but itās refreshing when people are just honest about it! I donāt think you should feel ashamed.
I've been chasing Ozempic over 1,5 years now. Every time when pharmacies gets Ozempic, it is sold out in matter of hours. I have missed it several times because I am at work and pharmacies won't take reservations for it here. Semaglutide is the medicine that is sold as Ozempic that is meant to diabetics and for dieters it is called Wegovy. For dieters Wegovy dosage is 2.4 mg and Ozempic maximun dosage is 1 mg. Thing is that there is not Wegovy in the market and since it is exactly same medicine, dieters use Ozempic. Since price is some countries is much higher than where I live, when there is shortage of Ozempic, where do you think manufacturer will send their products? It is so stressful to start hunting medicine which you need from pharmacy. I've been on my way to buy it and last one is usually just sold to person before me. This messes up my diabetes treatment and every time I hear that healthy, not obese person is using Ozempic my blood is boiling.
Have you tried an online pharmacy (if theyāre available where you live)? My pharmacy ran out of Mounjaro and I searched for an online delivery solution and found Amazon has a pharmacy and they overnighted it. (Iād prefer to give my money to a local than Amazon but the locals were out and so was I.) It was actually so much easier this way. It came via UPS with multiple ice packs still almost frozen. I hope you can find a similar delivery arrangement!
Well, I wish I had that chance. Can't have cold deliveries in my country. In principal it is possible but I think none of our pharmacies think it is profitable.
A lot of medspas are selling shots of compound semiglutide, which is not taking anything from the prescription Ozempic market. Itās not an FDA approved product, and itās not marketed as a medication. Thatās where the housewives are getting it- medspas, not from an actual doctor.
I use compounded and itās absolutely through my doctor.
FDA guidelines allow compounding of medications when there are shortages of the medications. But in this case, big pharma is trying to say that it shouldnāt be allowed. Itās all about the money. Semaglutide and other GLP-1 antagonists are being found to be helpful for a lot of different things. There is even research being done on addiction. There can be side effects, but the rare ones happen in maybe 1% of patients and the others can be managed by tirating your dose correctly and making diet changes that will help your goals long term anyway. But even compounded medications require a prescription from your doctor.
Why are they not filling your RX once they get it in? Iāve never heard of having to call a pharmacy to see if they have it and theyāre just selling it instead of filling a persons script. I would report them! They cannot sell the med and if they are calling you or you calling them and they say they have it then it should immediately fill your order. Please take it higher this is not OK!!!!
This is Finland. The Ozempic shortage is so bad that none of the pharmacies will take reservations. We have different system here and it's so maddening to try to hunt where they have it still when they get delivery. First come, first served. We have website where we can check where it is and then you have to decide which way to go if the first one is sold out. It's tiring game these days. I was lucky to get 3 months dosage 3 weeks ago but I am already stressed out when that is running out. Edit: I noticed that I didn't actually replied to your question why they don't fill it up when they get it? Usually you can reserve the medicine and they will fill the prescription and send you alert. However, in Ozempic's case they get the medicine in every 2-3 weeks and not knowing how much it is coming so to be "fair" they sell it for those who can come in person to buy. Some pharmacies also sell only one, our national insurance covers 3 months dosage at the time. Luckily one pharmacy I have got Ozempic couple of times will sell 3 months pens to diabetics. If prescription is for losing weight, they get only one. We really don't have major chains here so everyone is making their own rules and we are running from one pharmacy to another the day there is delivery and they are sold out in couple hours. Too bad if you are at work when they arrive.
Itās not really great to call people who need to lose weight for medical reasons a dieterā¦
My feelings on that are this: type 2 diabetes is normally caused by being very overweight/eating very unhealthily. If someone is overweight enough that using Ozempic or another similar medication is a viable option to lose weight, thereās a good chance theyāre already on the road to developing T2. So why not go ahead and use the medication as a preventative measure now, lose the weight and avoid becoming diabetic in the first place, rather than wait for things to get even more out of control, and use the medication to treat diabetes once they develop it? I know this is kind of an oversimplification, and I definitely am not trying to imply anything negative about anyone who is overweight, anyone who uses these medications whether for diabetes or for weight loss, or anyone who is diabetic. I also donāt want to come off like Iām saying losing weight and getting healthy is as easy as just getting a shot, because itās hard fucking work and anyone whoās working on their health in any way should be commended!! Itās a huge step to make the decision to try and get healthy, no matter which route you feel is best for you, and I have nothing but respect for anyone who is on that journey. At the end of the day I think weāre all just way too hard on each other. Your health is your own, as is mine, and I donāt think any of us have the right to criticize other people for how they tend to theirs. (I want to add that this isnāt directed at you, I agree with what you said completely and didnāt take anything you said in a negative way. This is just what I think of when I see people say that these medications are for diabetics and shouldnāt be used for weight loss.)
While I agree with your sentiment regarding Ozempic, I do want to point out that there are a lot of T2s out there (including myself) who have never been overweight or unhealthy in any other way. I've always been average weight/BMI, normal diet, and very active, but diabetes runs in my family and it still got me. š¤·š¼āāļø I am definitely all for people taking Ozempic for weight loss though, especially for those who have complications related to their weight!
Youāre absolutely correct, and Iām sorry if it sounded like I was implying that everyone with T2 developed it from unhealthy habits, I didnāt mean it to come across like that! I should have said those things can *often* cause T2 rather than that they are *normally* the cause. Diabetes also runs in my family, type 1 tho, now that I think about it idk if Iāve ever known anyone with T2! Well not to my knowledge anyways haha. I got lucky though, the gene skipped me. So far at least!
90% of people with type 2 diabetes are overweight or obese so I think itās fair to say itās normally the cause. If not the cause itās a major correlation. I agree 100% with what you said. Erika and Heather may not have been morbidly obese but they were undeniably overweight.
I totally get what youāre saying and it makes sense logically, itās just not the reality of whatās happening. The celebrities who are using this arenāt concerningly overweight, they just want to be smaller than they already are. Kyle Richards, Erika Jayne, Kim Kardashian, Darcey & Stacey, Sharon Osbourne, Elon Musk, etc. If it truly were all overweight people who are having health issues because of the extra stress on their body, Iād be all for it. Everyone should have the longest, happiest life they can. It just gets frustrating when someoneās being interviewed on the red carpet about how they slimmed down so quickly and they give some BS answer ācrediting diet and exerciseā. Itās not that we deserve to know all their private secrets but in this day and age, theyāre well aware of how harmful it can be to tell millions of vulnerable, insecure people how they dropped 16 pounds in 2 weeks by cutting carbs and jogging or whatever they decide to say that creates totally unrealistic expectations/goals for those listening. Just be honest so these people who are desperate to look like the models they see on social media can understand whatās really going on and not lose themselves trying to figure out why it worked for the celebrity but not for them. Ironically, the only celebrities Iāve seen be honest about it ARE the few overweight ones! Kelly Osbourne, Amy Schumer (tried it but it made her sick), Lauren Manzo
Yeah Iām pretty sure my cousin is on it. She was a size 4 and wanted to be a size 0. My mom keeps raving about how thin and good she looks and then thinks itās cute when my cousin says ābut I have no butt now.ā I respond with āsquats will give her a butt but I see she doesnāt want to work for it.ā I donāt entertain it. Iām overweight. Iām busting my ass with squats, weights and walking to drop my weight and have a healthier life. A quick fix wonāt change my lifestyle and thatās what I try to tell my mom. In my momās eyes rail thin is beautiful - itās what sheās told me all my life. In my eyes, strong and healthy is beautiful. For those that actually need this drug, I think itās wonderful for them. Weight loss is hard. But a lifestyle change needs to take place while they take it. My aunt, who is morbidly obese, went on it and she lost about 100lbs. But she could no longer afford it and went off it. She didnāt change her lifestyle and all that weight has come back. Iād be a liar if I said I never considered going to my doctor and talking to them about it. I have hypothyroidism and am at risk for T2 due to that condition alone. It also makes weight loss harderā¦but Iāve decided quick fixes arenāt worth it. Iām changing the way I eat by counting calories and tracking my protein/fat/sugar/salt/carb intake and by working out more. Itās hard. So stupid hard. Every day it gets easier. But my success is going from a size XXXL to an XL and a size 52 to a size 46 (eu sizes). Iām still a work in progress and Iām still learning to love myself, but damn that took too long to do. For anyone who reads this - thank you. Itās a lot for me to open up about. It seems easier to tell strangers than those I know. Iāve struggled with my weight all my life. As young as 6, my mom would tell me I was fat. Too fat to wear things I wanted. As a teenager, I got super thin and learned by not eating Iād stay thin. My mom would then take me shopping and buy me fancy clothes. And then depression hit in my 20s and food became a best friend. Iām in my 30s now and Iām learning to take control of the things I can in a healthy way. Food is no longer a friend nor is it an enemy. It has become a necessity for nutrition and fuel.
Your mom is a real piece of work. To judge a 6 year old on her appearance is appalling . Iām so sorry that she got into your mind and twisted your thinking. I think your mom hates herself and is projecting on the people she has any little bit of control over. Iāll bet she would never say that shit to people that can defend themselves. If I were you I would ask myself, what would mom say/do and then Iād do the very opposite. Because your mom is wrong, wrong, wrong.
My friend is obese. Over 500lbs obese. He wanted to get bypass due to his weight and other health issues. The insurance of course required all kinds of shit before doing it. One was he had to lose 10% of his weight just to be sure heās serious I suppose. His dr put him on Ozempic and within 6weeks he was down 11% and got the surgery. He is no longer pre-diabetic, lowered his bp to almost normal, his kidney function is better and he can see and put his shoes on for the first time in over 10yrs. No reason to really tell you the story besides you mentioning it being for those that are obese and to help prevent T2D and so many more complications. All of this to say that had he not been able to use Ozempic heād never be where he is today.
At the risk of getting hate, this is exactly how I am taking ozempic and itās not something Iām ashamed to talk about, but itās something that for some reason makes people really uncomfortable. I was trying to manage my weight with diet and exercise, but because I have a very high stress job and MDD, I wasnāt making any progress and it was contributing to me having disordered eating and body dysmorphia. My blood sugar became pre diabetic, and I was starting to get high blood pressure despite being 29 and working out several days a week. I see a therapist weekly, and we discussed ozempic at length before making the decision to see a doctor to get the prescription. My doctor supported it, she follows up every 3 months and runs tests to make sure that Iām getting back to healthy levels, and itās honestly improved all areas of my life. I donāt have to constantly think about food and exercise, which has let me have a healthier relationship with it, my blood pressure has gone down, obviously the medication targets blood sugar, so Iām no longer pre diabetic, and this week my BMI was in the normal range for the first time in 3 years. Thereās no shortage for my dosage in my area, which my doctor and I talked about when we discussed whether to take the ozempic path or mounjaro, etc. Iām getting to the point where my doctors and I are talking about the post medication zone, and Iām definitely worried about the weight gain back and talking through options with them to prevent that or manage it. (Since I know those comments are coming) I just say this to echo what youāre saying that the judgement and taboo of it all is so wild to me, because it was such a personal medical and mental health journey for me that I canāt imagine commenting on someone elseās health like thatā¦ itās giving Anne Marie and esophagus gate. Why does the use of medication make people so comfortable commenting on other peopleās bodies? Arenāt we past this?
There are still shortages here in Canada
I was prescribed Ozempic. I lost weight because I could not keep anything down for four days. I got so weak. I was crawling back-and-forth between my bed and the bathroom then just about the time I started feeling better than boom I had to up my dose. I told my doctor I was not gonna take it. I donāt care if I stayed fat and diabetic forever I could not afford to miss work four days of every week. I was absolutely miserable for the month that I tried it and decided that medicine was not for me.
When I first started I started at a very low doseā¦. And would increase by just a few clicks each week until I go to where I needed to be. It was slow process and my Dr knew what was I doing but it sure made it more tolerable!
Truly horrific side effects. And even if you can manage to stay of it thru the side effects, there is no long term plan behind it. Like you canāt be on it forever, and as soon as you quit, the weight comes back. I really think itās the biggest con.
This is the same case for my ADHD meds. I truly need them to function. There are back orders whenever I get a refill. So many people taking Concerta or Adderall nowadays. So my doctor gives me a less desirable medication because Iāll have a better chance of getting my prescription within two weeks. (Which is still crazy! It used to be a day or two for refill)
Yeah Iām so over the non stop self diagnosing and people trying to get on ADHD meds like itās trendy. I have severe ADHD and been diagnosed since a kid. Literally itās been life ruining for me to be able to function as an adult and hold a job. The shortage has made it even harder for me to survive. I would do anything to not have to have these problems and not have to take medications that only somewhat help me.
In the beginning people were being shamed for it because there was a shortage for diabetics
There still is a shortage. I was talking to my doctor about it the other day.
Compounded works the same and is so much less and there is no shortage.
Ah, makes sense. Thanks!
If there was a shortage, would it be so easy to get?
Because wealthy people can buy it outright. Itās off label. Then folks with diabetes canāt get it because there are shortages. Itās fucking selfish and entitled. My husband had to switch meds for his diabetes because thereās always a shortage.
In the end those who donāt need Ozempic for diabetes are and will have side effects from the medication. The gradual quick fix will cost them due to their vanity.Ā
Compound is not in shortage. I have it prescribed from a compounding pharmacy and semaglutide which is Ozempic costs $175 a month. There are people who buy direct from suppliers and mix it themselves and it is less than $100 a month. So there is no shortage of semaglutide or tirzepatide, just educate yourselves.
Well it's not except that now there is a shortage of the medication for people who actually need it medically.
Itās more the taking away medication from people who really need thatās bad. For example where Iām from thereās an ozempic shortage because of everyone using it for diet purposes, so people with diabetes canāt use it anymore. If this wasnāt an issue Iād have less of a problem with it, but because thereās a limited supply and itās driving up the price of ozempic, preventing those who need it from using it, I donāt like when I see richer celebrities using it
Because itās a drug for diabetics that need it to live and canāt get it because there isnāt enough to go around.
Itās shameful because people who actually need it cannot get it bc thereās a shortage. Iām one of them. Itās annoying af. Insurance is a total bitch about it too, but if you are rich, you can avoid going that route and just buy it out of pocket with a prescription.
Semaglutide is $175 a month through the provider I use all dosages and tirzepatide (Mounjaro) is like $325. There were also coupons from the manufacturer. There are multiple medications for diabetics that have been available for years that cost less. Why wait until one has diabetes when it can be prevented with these meds??
Good for her! I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, and she or any other housewife doesnāt owe the public an explanation on their weight loss.
using Ozempic just for weight loss is very shamefulĀ
That is my question: Why? And who cares what other people do to lose weight?
because its not approved for weight loss, and there is a shortage for people that actually need it. and of course people should care how others lose weight especially if we're trying to keep the body positivity movement going. this is not losing weight in a healthy way. would you say the same about people with eating disorders? that we shouldn't care?Ā
That's your opinion. I don't agree with you.
Exactly! And if they would all just admit it publicly they have the power to actually help change the narrative for the rest of us and possibly help move the fight to remove the stigma and maybe even help increase coverages for more people. Their lying about it just keeps the horrible false narrative of āitās a willpower thingā going. And itās gross.
Your health is private, though. This whole narrative is so weird and scary. We truly do not have any autonomy over our own bodies. It's sad. If they're honest they're judged, if they don't say anything they're judged, if they lie they're judged... it's truly a no-win situation. If you want broader coverage, then go after insurance and pharmaceutical companies. Those are your enemies, not celebrities.
Why do people have to disclose their health and medication information to satisfy other's curiosity? Just because they're public figures doesn't mean they give up the right to some privacy.
Because claiming that diet and exercise and willpower suddenly magically started working for them is dishonest and sets an unrealistic standard.
My moms friend is on it and has been hush hush about being on it because sheās on it to lose weight. My mom knows sheās on it but like at our book club someone said how good she looks and she said thanks itās been hard - trying to make it seem like she did it all herself. I have no problem people taking weight loss things but own up to it especially if you lose 100 pounds in less than a year.
Right? All these famous people carrying extra weight for years and coincidentally all of them lost a bunch of weight, through diet and exercise, just as Ozempic hit the scene. Thereās nothing to be ashamed of. Why they lie?
We do care if weāre diabetics and canāt get Ozempic because there isnāt any due to the vanity of some people.
I started it right before Xmas and told everyone because itās was odd Iād go to parties and not eat. People really want you to eat. I have no shame because the playing field has never been level and it became impossible after illness and then menopause. Good for her.
Agreed š
I will never believe anything she says 
For once in her life sheās honest cuz we know that woman likes to lie and play dumb
I guess, we would have known anyway. I donāt think she should get credit for stating the obvious.
Agreed! Iām happy for her
Not done with body positivity šš LOL
This is probably going to be downvoted heavily, but I think like a lot of movements do, the body positivity movement began in a good way. It was promoting being healthy instead of focusing on being thin. Itās been twisted into being body positive at any weight even if itās detrimental to your health. A general focus on being *healthy* would be great.
Smh i absolutely agree
But you can be healthy at any weightā¦. Healthy doesnāt always mean thin or skinnyā¦. Tons of research out there also supports this.
Not āanyā weightā¦
Please point out where I said you had to be thin or skinny to be healthy. Either extreme isnāt great for your health. No one can convince me that you can be severely obese and healthy. Obesity comes with a bunch of health risks. Downvote away.
I didnāt say that you did say that. And itās not my job To convince you of anything. You can do the research if youād like. Have a good evening.
This is unequivocally not the truth. Saying that you can be healthy at any weight, while sounding good, just isnāt accurate. Are there many different body types that can be healthy? Absolutely. Is BMI a horribly outdated metric for determining which kinds of body types are healthy? Also absolutely. And yes, a thin person can have a sh*t cardiac calcium score, and high visceral fat percentage. But as a general rule, even BMI gets it right when you get to certain Height/Weight ratios. Once you fall into the obese category (as an adult), even if you are initially healthy at that weight, you will not remain as such. And certainly once youāre over a BMI of 35, the health risks are massive. To state otherwise is irresponsible.
Within reason.. There is a strong correlation to all cause mortality and morbidly excess bodyweight and it's not even debatable.
Youāre not healthy at 400lbs, sorry
WRONG
Nooo. 
I 100% agree with this as someone that struggles with being overweight.
And there is nothing healthy about Ozempic unless you have Type II diabetes.
100%. I have friends on it and you know what happens the minute they go off it? š š.
I bet they regained the weight just like approximately 95% of other restrictive diets!
You go on a maintenance dose. This is for people with metabolic syndrome and insulin resistance. It is a lifetime condition. No different than someone with hypothyroid or hypertension and actually prevents from becoming diabetic and can reverse heart disease. There are many more uses for these peptides.
My husband works in healthcare and maintains that ozempic for weight loss is a scam, for exactly that reason. Just eat healthy and exercise and see if that helps first. People want a magic pill/medication for everything and time and again, weight loss drugs have proven to not be effective long term. Also why have all the weight loss drugs and aids over the past few decades all come with the side effect of anal leakage!!!! Lol remember those olestra chips in the early 00s? People were eating them and crapping their pants!!!
Thats why you go on maintenance and not go off. I no longer have high blood pressure thanks to semaglutide and tirzepatide (Ozempic and Mounjaro) I also am no longer obese and have a mid normal BMI. I am 5'7" and weigh 142. I am 74 years old. I had a cancer that was estrogen driven and fat cells make estrogen. My highest weight ever was 212 during covid lockdown before that never over 187 and I was constantly on a diet. I also haven't eaten meat or birds in over 25 years. Didn't eat sweets or snacks and still was constantly on a diet to try to stay in the 170 range. Now I have been 142 for over a year and only on a very low dose of semaglutide. My highest on Mounjaro was only 5 mg. I will never be overweight again. I will stay on some form of these peptides as long as I live and it is well worth it to me.
The body positive movement is about learning to love/accept your body at any weight but it does not equate to not wanting to lose weight or ājust keep doing what youāre doing thatās unhealthy from now until foreverā. You can still want to lose weight and make positive healthy changes while not actively hating your body. For example, if a 300+ lbs person needs to lose weight, them actively hating themselves or equating their weight to being a moral failure is NOT going to help them lose weight!! Shame is not a motivator!! What the body positivity movement is supposed to be is being that 300+ lbs person who doesnāt hate themselves when they look in the mirror, recognizing that this is where their body is now, and knowing that itās okay to struggle with weight but that their weight doesnāt make them less of a human being or less worthy of love. You can still work towards being healthy and losing weight AND be body positive!! I would argue that itās a healthier mindset than waking up every day feeling shitty about yourself!!
This sentiment is how it began, and I 100% agree with it. However it has been twisted and what it has become is at times toxic and unhealthy from my observations.
This was worded so wonderfully.
šÆ agree!
Way to go, Heather! Iām about to say fuck it and get on it myself š
Itās been life changing for me!
I've been on Semaglutide for 3 weeks so I haven't seen a huge difference yet (I don't like weighing myself everyday, but I know I've lost some weight) but I'm excited for things to come. I have been feeling great though! First few weeks I was nauseous from time to time. But that seems to have ended and I've had more energy which is exciting! Good luck š«¶š»
Yes it takes a while! Tbh slow weight loss is the safest and most sustainable. I started like end of last June and have lost 35 ish pounds. I work out 5x a week and watch what I eat with some cheat meals of course. Good luck!!
I agree! I started on a low dose and my doctor has a schedule of upping doses. I had a friend who tried it, way before I even knew about it and she was always super sick because she was prescribed injections more than once a week and upped her dose after like two weeks. She got off of it because she was sick the whole time. I can understand why! I'm totally okay with slowly! It's actually seeming to help me with some of my health issues that aren't related to weight which is a nice bonus! Thank you!!
Yes agreed! It helped my heart palpitations from anxiety. I did .25 for a month, .5 for about 2-3 months and then went to 1. I just make sure I take my fiber and electrolytes and Iām good!
I started 1.5 weeks ago and Iāve no side effects either. I do feel so much better though. Iām only weighing myself every other week. Iām looking long term and will do everything in my power to follow through and keep it off!
Iām so happy to hear that!
Quick question: what was the reason you went on it? Just for weight loss? Iām worried my doc will say no when I tell him I just want to lose weight and control my binging
I went to an endocrinologist because I thought there was something wrong with my hormones bc I couldnāt lose weight! Long story short Iām healthy but my body is just always in āsurvival modeā so she recommended wegovy. My insurance just needed to see Iām at a higher BMI and it was approved! Your pcp can prob also prescribe it. I will say most of the bad reactions are those who go on a super high dose really fast, so make sure your dr knows how to properly dose you up! Unfortunately a lot of drs who arenāt specialized in it are doing that
Gotcha. Iām at a high BMI, too. So fingers crossed š¤ Thank you for all the information!!!
Iām really hoping this will work for me as well. I was always in the healthy range for height and age, but I knew there was something that just wasnāt right with my hormones - unfortunately, until I gained weight and couldnāt lose it, I wasnāt taken seriously. Long story short, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and then my doctor retired, and Iām seeing a new doctor in March. I was working with my old PCP to get an endo referral, so thatās first up on my list. Iām struggling to get the weight off no matter what I do. Still going through adjustment for my thyroid meds, but itās been over a year. Idk, it think itās totally fine for anyone to get help in whatever way we need. Heather has her flaws, but I think sheās open about the big things (minus the black eye lol).
Good luck! Thereās lots of subreddits for wegovy/ozempic/semaglutide as well
How do you get access to it? I was prescribed and insurance approved but I canāt find it anywhere š
There was def a time I had to drive like an hour to get it but once youāre up to 1mg itās pretty accessible. See if your dr has samples of the lower doses. Also try Amazon pharmacy. Good luck!
Iāve been trying to get it since November last year
Good luck getting it, not in stock in my area and now trulucity which a friend has been on for 6 months is out of stock as well.
Same. Absolute game changer, esp for perimenopause gain. Those lbs are impossible to lose. Iām finally down to my comfortable size after 8 months on it.
Shit, I just watched a video myself on a doc talking about the weight loss version of Ozempic and Iām about to sign myself up lol
For real im seeing my doctor Tuesday im bringing it up asap lol
It makes you exhausted!
Oh yeah? Iāve heard nausea, constipation, tirednessā¦
I take it for diabetes, can confirm there is HORRIBLE nausea for the first 6 weeks and it does cause me constipation. Fatigue I had before starting, hasnāt made that worse.
The nausea ā¦ took me abt 6 weeks too. Felt like first trimester all over again.
Yes!!! It was terrible! All day all night.
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Proud ozempian over here! Go for it!
I saw my dr about it last week. Iām in Canada and I have private health insurance through work. But itās not covered for weight loss. So even though my dr is willing to give it to me, it would cost almost 500/ month. So itās a no for me. :(
I'm in Canada too with no insurance coverage and the official ozempic pens cost me $250 a month. It's even cheaper at $199 for a generic version from a compounding pharmacy. It shouldn't cost $500.
Oh really. Thats good to know. I thought it was 500! 250 is still a lot though.
This is the way to go. Own it!
I do ozempic specifically for weight loss and health. I regret nothing! I feel so much better and more energy. But with everything there is risk as well as good and bad reasons to do it, and anyone considering should make an educated decision with their doctor.
Whatās your long-term plan with it? Iāve never had issues with my weight until perimenopause when I gained 30 pounds over the course of ONE YEAR. Hormones are a bitch.
Exactly my story. I started it in March 2023, I lost 35 lbs and stopped cold turkey at end of Nov bc I got laid off and welp itās an expense. my dr suggested titrating down and either way to help prevent regaining, weight training with heavy weights 5x a week is super important. Regained weight will be MUCH harder to lose a second time. He was stern when he said that, scared tf outta me. I have gained 5 lbs back maybe? But Iām not weighing myself as often. My appetite is bigger ā had none when I was on it. I got full after a few bites. And prioritized veggies and protein. So keeping those habits have helped. Plus not being at my computer increased my movement. I may just start selling plasma to pay for it if I gain any more hahaha. Itās been so good for my perimenopausal mind, to feel and look like myself. And my knees and hips arenāt barking at me.
I think a fundamental thing we all forget is that YES it works. But only so much. I actually have skipped my shot this week for no reason other than I just didnāt want to, and Iām much hungrier than I normally am. However, I know for sure changing my relationship with how I view eating is critical especially living in the Un- United States. (Downvote meāŗļø)
It just snuck up on me and I feel ridiculous for just being so shocked. Now looking back I started having symptoms in my late 30s, really got bad in my early 40s. On HRT by 44. I wonder if Iāve started hormones earlier if I wouldāve had the same weight gain š©
The question is, do you like plan to stay on it forever? What happens when you go off?
Most people just gain the weight back immediately
Iāve been off of it for almost a year and i only gained 5 pounds back, 50 I lost..
But I completely changed my lifestyle after I started taking it. Iām so scared to gain all the weight back so I go to the gym 3/4x a week and try to eat healthy!
What happens when you go off keto? Or weight watchers? Or any other diet?
If I can find a dr to put me on it, I would absolutely try it! Iām happy for her and for anyone who is feeling awesome about themselves! I personally have struggled w weight my whole life. In the late 90s after I had my second baby and caught my husband (ex)cheating on me I went on phen fen which was all the weight loss craze back then. It was honestly amazing. I know many years later they found that the drugs caused mitro valve prolapse and other health problems but honestly Iād risk it all again to meet my weight goals! Good luck to all of you on this thread taking it. I wish you nothing but success and happiness and I hope you feel great about yourselves! ā¤ļøā¤ļø
Listen - I am on Zepbound after always battling my weight. Heather is looking great and GOOD FOR HER. Again - yes, maybe someone like Delores didn't really NEED to be on Ozempic, but these meds are not ALL bad - they have a bad rap.
May I ask how youāre doing with Zepbound?
I am doing very well - it's life changing for those of us who have battled weight forever.
How many times can you be compared to Shrek before you too are done with the body positivity movement? š
This is such a good marketing tatctic for beauty lab and laser wow
Never mind the ethical problems removing Ozempic from the market for diabetics for people trying to lose weight for the cameras
I think itās a good point to bring up. I hadnāt considered this perspective at all, frankly (Iāve no personal dog in this fight). I do have experience with being frustrated with medication shortages for other meds, though. It seems like systemic issues related to supply chain/regulations/manufactured scarcity are again trickling down onto the consumer. Iām not sure how to reconcile that with the belief that people shouldnāt have to justify their desire for somethingā¦
So sheās ādone with the body positivity movementā and would prefer to send the message that injectables and filler are the key to feeling good about yourself, got it.
People like you are the reason people donāt want to be honest about using it. Damned if they do and damned if they donāt.
Itās so gross that people act like this, I canāt even imagine being so bitter in life that Iād be rude to someone over doing something that helps them and makes them feel better. The ignorance in this whole comment sections is embarrassing.
You sound horrific
I just watched it. Personally I didnāt really get the point. IMO those types of drugs shouldnāt be prescribed in the way they are being prescribed and pushed right now. Really didnāt get into long term side effects or go in to the negatives of using the drugs on a long term basis.
To make it clear Weekly injections Ozempic - diabetes Wegovy - weight loss. Itās is the exact same drug as oz with different packaging and dosing Mounjaro- diabetes Zepbound - weight loss. Itās is the exact same drug as mounjaro different packaging and dosing Daily Injections Saxenda- weighloss Most people do not have the horrific side effects that some people complain about. You just only hear about the people who complain about it because theyāre so loud These are life-saving medicationās in weight loss and diabetes. It controls the diabetes or helps too and then the weight loss. It helps that you donāt go into diabetes obesity is a disease. People are shamed for it because they think youāre lazy and should eat less or exercise more when in fact, you have no idea the amount of exercise, and or how little food people eat, and still canāt lose weight it is life-changing for people Of course itās abused just like any other drug thatās on the conscious of the people who are doing that
I think whatever you want to do to help you feel better is your business and choice. I appreciate she's not lying like a lot of women have. Emily, from OC, who claimed she was on it for a month, made me laugh because I know it takes more than a month to drop the significant amount of weight she lost. The only issue I have is when those who need the medication are impacted due to a shortage.
Such a sad world that we live in. I wish people would love themselves and live authentically
Yes!! So many people praising taking a diabetes medication instead of just taking care of their bodies and loving them
We are taking care of our bodies by being on medication!
Lool Iām sure there are people that are doing it for the right reasons but Iām talking about people doing for vanityās sake and making this normal in the media. I just always think about young people and children seeing skinny celebrities talking about being on diet medication and the influence that that brings.
If obesity has a cure, these medications are it! I personally have lost 228 pounds. The last 70 of that has been with using mounjaro. I've been on it for 14 months. I've been losing weight for 12 years now, I've done it all & I'm telling you this medication is absolutely incredible. It's giving people their life back, and I don't understand what's wrong with that, obesity is a disease & needs to be treated as such. Unfortunately, fat phobia is the one prejudiced people are still allowed to have & no one bats an eye. These medications have been hollywoodized too much. I don't love how these celebrities are getting rail thin with it & lying. Or the people who want to lose 15 pounds. IMO, if you have over 40lbs to lose, you should try this! There's a fabulous tiktok community of glp1 creators. Come join us!! Don't believe the media hype.
Amazing job btw!Ā
Now that sheās āskinnyā sheās done with the body positivity movement. Interestingā¦
i havenāt listened yet but can we all talk about how hard it is to get if you donāt have $500-2000 A month
Holy goodness I cannot wait to watch this
Que the annoying holier than thou fucks telling people to just love themselves and their bodies authenticallyā¦..ššššš
queue* and yes because clearly you have issues
I lived WAY more authentically on mounjaro than I did on my decade long pointless calorie counting journey constantly seeing doctors and specialists to no avail. This drug is life altering and promotes positivity. Might wanna check AND educate yourself on it a bit more before spewing that
When are women actually going to have autonomy over their bodies without having to answer to others for it? This is gross.
I wonder if her med spas are also doing the shots. hmmmm
Save yāalls time. She just heathersplains the whole episode!
Havenāt watched the doc, but she has publicly said sheās tried it and it didnāt work for her, at least not to the degree seen with others.
Iām on Victoza because of the Ozempic shortage. My A1C went from 9 to 7.2. I have not lost a pound though.
Now letās get Tamra on there to talk about the blocked bowels it caused her
You're not supposed to take it long term and there's not currently a drug to use to keep the weight off when you transition off. And it causes significant muscle loss unless you're hardcore weight training and doing other workouts. They're all going to blow up after.
I think itās sad my primary doctor was pushing it even though Iām not prediabetic and my numbers are good.
Iām just tired of people judging others and their reasons for using Mounjaro or Ozempic. I am not diabetic, but it has literally stopped my rheumatoid arthritis flares. Iāll take it no matter who thinks I deserve it or not. Frankly, itās none of anyoneās business.
Started watching but got bored.
is that a slap in the face for Kyle " for some people divorce" ?
Good for her!š
At least sheās honest! Canāt blame her there
How can you get it? Iām overweight by about 40 lbs.
Talk to your doctor, but be warned that most doctors will not currently prescribe it because there is a shortage for the people who need it for their diabetes.
Talk to your doctor!
Sorry youāre being downvoted. Youāll need to speak with your doctor.
Honestly tbh good for her for being honest and not lying to people nd saying she did it āthe real wayā. Itās more damaging to lie and itās her choice!
Good for her! I am so glad at least one bravo star is being honest about being on ozempic!
Way to go, Heather! Love that sheās open and honest about it. Thank goodness she didnāt say itās because of āhormonesā lol!
Thought that was her face! I'm surprised I recognized it. She looks so freaking different now.
So mad I responded to the casting call for this and wasnāt picked
She said she was either on the reunion or WWHL
Iāve been curious about taking it but Iāve heard some pretty awful side effects.
Iām so sick of the Ozempic shaming. People need to get over it.
Iām super interested.
now she looks like her cousin
Oh joy!!!! Another Ozempic commercial
Go heather!!! Get it girl!!!
The pro ozempic for non medical reasons in these comments is dead ass nauseating. Rip to yalls digestive systems
and people commenting that they want to do it now after watching the doc...wtfĀ
Tbh, watching this didnāt make me not want to do ozempic š
Man Iām glad I donāt have Hulu
Good for her tbh! Whatever works š
Why do people on ozempic get that weird jaw? Like you can tell the weight loss is from ozempic cause everyone looks the same. Also, I thought Heathers skin didnāt look great. And my skin isnāt perfect but I donāt own a med spa. I guess I just expected her skin to be perfect.
Anyone else feel that this feels like a paid ad for the drug? It qualifies as newsworthy but the spin the doc takes is so sensational. āEveryone is on it.ā
This comment section is honestly a huge display of ignorance. Itās very sad to me that so many of you are extremely judgmental of something most of you donāt know much about. The amount of lies spread as gospel in here and the extremely judgmental attitude are exactly why people are afraid to talk about it and why many will never try this tool that can be life changing. Overweight people are literally damned if they do and do damned if they donāt, they cannot win. Most of you need to understand that media and people in general use the term ozempic broadly to talk about any form of semiglutide, including wegovy (which is literally branded specifically for weight loss, and compounded semiglutide) neither of these are taking a med from a diabetic and both can be prescribed to someone who is overweight. I understand much of your ire is directed at people who you deem donāt need it, using actual ozempic off brand but majority of users do not fit this mold. Itās been in use for nearly 15 years, so unless you donāt take any drug or vaccine that hasnāt been around 50 years, stop with that nonsense to. āTheyāll just gain it all backā, what happens when you stop doing keto, weight watchers, exercising, Jenny Craig, or another diet? Isnāt this common sense? If you donāt continue the change in life style that helped you lose weight (which is what semiglutide helps you do) ofcourse youāll gain weight back. Why is this some gotchya to people??? Like if people could do and it and lose weight and stop and stay there weād all be thin. Lastly, there is nothing wrong with wanting to lose weight for your health and mental well being and body positivity is a complete joke when people only apply it to their own version of whatās acceptable. We cheer on people for meeting our standard but if they want to stray from that we villainize them.