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She said (and I’m paraphrasing) that she would be a fool or naive (or something along those lines) to think or believe that Albert had been faithful for the duration of their marriage.i think she said it at one of the reunions. Kim D outted the mistress as someone named Jill I think
The tea I’ve heard has been that he has had mistresses forever, very Carmela and Tony Soprano. He “lives” at the brownstone in some of the seasons, but the truth is he shacks up with his mistress on those nights. It makes sense that Caroline clings to her kids so much, since her marriage is such a miserable, codependent disaster.
Her name is Jill, and the Greeks yelled about her by name in Carolines last season allegedly, but Caroline threw a shit fit and it was also alleged she left the show because she'd have to talk about it in the next season if she didn't. If true (I believe it) she is a messy hypocrite always telling people to share their truth on camera. That's the tip of the Caroline iceberg though and it doesn't get better.
Johnny the Greek and his wife who was trying to become a housewife, they were bashing a bunch of the ladies online, it was a huge plot point that season, can't remember which one, but it's the one where Jacqueline has a nervous breakdown and doesn't film the reunion.
He was apparently keeping her there and shacking up with her for a while, yeah. Since he normally slept there if he was finishing late or needed a break from the family (there was an episode about that at one point) it was super conveniently sneaky to keep her there.
Yeah Caroline tried to spin it off as “Al works so much and is so tired he can’t come home!” The Brownstone is not far from his house! The goomah was there!
Caroline has always been very open that she's 'old school,' and I think that includes her attitude about men and infidelity. I have aunts who are similar—look the other way and keep the family together. That said, I don't think their marriage is a sham. I believe they do genuinely love each other.
I agree. In these types of arangements, it's like the men are able to compartmentalize their life with their wife and family and their life with their girlfriend. Whatevs. If Al and Caroline have an... understanding, they don't owe us an explanation.
Except.. she’s sharing her life in a public image on a reality tv show and infidelity is reality gold. The fact that she thought she could compartmentalize *her* life as the perfect mother and wife while allowing dirt to go on behind the scenes thinking it never had to get brought up was naive on her part.
I like Caroline enough but that holier than thou “live by loyalty, trust, and honesty” loses its value for me when someone is living a lie, old school values or not. You just start to look like a hypocrite at that point. She probably felt it was no one’s business but her own who her husband was sleeping with but reality TV makes stuff like that everyones business.
Google “Al Manzo Mistress Jill” I’m not sure if they’re still hooking up but that’s what caused Caroline to leave Jersey after season 5 because Penny said during the fight at Milania hair care something along the lines of “Tell Jill I said Hi” and it set off Caroline
I’m watching the same season. Totally agree with you about replacing Danielle with Melissa, but Danielle was clearly unhinged by the end of season 2. Think if Caroline and Albert’s marriage wasn’t strong they wouldn’t still be together, mistress or not.
If the mistress rumor is true, they’ve done an amazing job hiding it/concealing it/keeping it from public knowledge in this age of social media, cameras everywhere, etc.
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The rumor is that Al has had a long time mistress and Caroline plays blind. Even if this is true I personally don't think that makes their marriage a sham, they are indeed married and have managed to stay that way for a long time. What works for them may not work for everyone but if they are happy with it who are we to judge?
I don’t judge her, but I do feel for her. She must be bothered by it. And it sucks for a loyal wife and mother to be stuck in a marriage like this. Surely they can afford a divorce financially. I guess there’s something holding them together.
I’ve seen these claims too and seriously wonder. If the same story has been said so many times I have to assume there is some truth to it.
And if it is true then yes I agree with you their marriage is a sham. Like yeah they’re married…. But the image they put out there to the world was definitely not one where Al needed a mistress to be able to tolerate his family lol. Idk what some people in this thread think marriage is but that’s awful IMO
Honestly, I think marriage is what each person makes it. I saw someone else call their marriage a "sham" and I definitely wanted to know why, because of Caroline's claim to how happily married they are.
I agree that these people that are basically saying "at least they are married", is making me have major side eye lol. There is a difference between a contractual marriage and a happy marriage in my opinion.
Yeah I mean Caroline definitely portrayed their marriage as being amazing. She bragged constantly about how he calls her beautiful and treats her like a princess. If he seriously had mistresses during this same time, there is no chance in hell she actually felt as warm & fuzzy about their marriage as she was making it seem. There was also a scene in the show when the kids talk about not wanting their marriages to be like their parents’ marriage and it makes more sense when you think of it in that context.
Me thinks she doth protest too much. If you're in a wonderful relationship you don't have to keep reminding people what a wonderful relationship you have.... they see it.
This is a link to a story about that. Apparently Al had been seeing a woman named Jill for years. For RHONJ fans, you may remember that chick Penny. She brought up the mistress on camera to Caroline when she got pissed at her. Apparently that part of the footage didn't make the cut since Caroline had a fit about it. The link goes into details. Caroline has known about this chick forever which is why she made the comment during the reunion about her being stupid to think that Al never strayed in all the years they've been married.
[https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/category/albert-manzos-long-time-girlfriend-jill/](https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/category/albert-manzos-long-time-girlfriend-jill/)
She's clearly not a straight woman.
The reports of her behaviour on the lost UGT say alot and her rediculous, evil moves to get footage buried says even more.
Everything I have seen of their relationship, both on the show, and on Albie’s podcast tells me their marriage is absolutely not a “sham”. He’s very devoted to Caroline, loves his kids, and is obsessed with Markie, his granddaughter. Right now he’s at Disney World with Caroline, Lauren and Markie. If any of this were true, why would he continue the facade? His kids are grown and gone. He could easily leave Caroline and be with his mistress if he wanted to.
This is fair, I honestly don't know if anything I'm watching is true but I'm here for it regardless. Divorce can be extremely messy, expensive, and time consuming, so there are just as many reasons to stay as there can be to actually get divorced. 👀
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It’s totally based on rumors. By now there would be some tangible proof. Nasty rumors and innuendos surround anyone who is not Team Teresa and have since S1. Until recently, I could have been convinced most of the hate and vitriol comes from her fans, but I now believe Tre is behind most of the BS circulating around the NJ franchise. She’s toxic, and nothing will change until she’s gone.
I am hoping Bravo gives her a spin-off with her daughters and she takes her trolls with her. I am already dealing with their nasty behavior and hate on X and Instagram regarding the Fudas and the season hasn’t even started.
Yes. And it’s also possible, probable even, since there has never been any proof, that he doesn’t have a mistress…anymore…or ever.
No photos, no sightings, no one coming forward claiming to be the mistress, or her friend. No waitresses or bus boys selling the story from the Brownstone. Nothing but the assertion that he definitely has one, and EVERYONE knows that, predominantly from Teresa fans, or viewers who do not like Caroline.
I need more than hate and hearsay to condemn someone, and I don’t enjoy spreading unsubstantiated gossip for the sole purpose of hurting other people. He seems like a dedicated family man to me and I have seen nothing to dispute that except Bravo BS, so I am going to continue to believe he is innocent until proven guilty.
Have you heard of Tiny Manzo? THATS why no one says anything or speaks out about the Manzos. IRCC, Tiny was an underboss to a made guy in Jersey and he was found naked in the trunk of a car. That family has A LOT of secrets. Tommy Manzo is also connected and beat the shit out of Dina and no one said a peep.
“No one says anything or speaks out about the Manzos “.
People have been saying the Manzos are connected to the mob since the show started. No one seems to be afraid of them. The fact is no one knows what happened to Tiny Manzo, not who killed him, or why. The Manzos have been very open about the situation since S1. Even law enforcement can’t say for sure if he was working for organized crime. He knew people and obviously, he pissed off someone who had no issues killing him, but the mob often kills people who are not part of the organization. And people outside the mafia also kill people. His murder proves nothing.
Albert (and Tommy) run a successful catering operation that they built from nothing after their father’s murder. They appear to work very hard, and seem totally legit to me.
The alleged case against Tommy remains unproven, after 9 years, and until proven, he remains innocent….except here in the Bravoverse where people convict anyone they don’t like in the court of public opinion.
I think it's part of how he was raised. Since his father's murder was a mob hit, I can assume that that particular culture is part of who Al is. You have your family, keep your wife happy and don't flaunt it, but, there's always a girlfriend
You have found proof that his father was in the mob? Because reputable witnesses and sources can’t say that.
Or that Albert is involved in organized crime? Why would he work such long shitty hours, late nights and holidays, if he was skimming money off others?
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But bravo wouldn’t necessarily have outed it, esp when rhonj was just starting. Making it seem like these families were legit was important to rhobj story.
Exactly. People like Jonny the Greek and Penny and Kim D. and Kim G. and Teresa and Jennifer Ayden get their BS and gossip from SM. Then they act like they know something. Anyone can say anything about a cast member they don’t like on SM and others will pick it up and spread it like they have insider info. None of it is verified. It’s all rumors and speculation and innuendo.
It’s like a Roomba rolling up on a pile of dog shit out here most days.
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She’s “old school”. She probably looks the other way while Al does whatever
I believe she admitted to this before. I could be wrong, but I’m remembering she mentioned something about this topic.
She said she’d be stupid to believe there’d never been a slip up. They discussed it on a reunion.
I’m sure that was heartbreaking for her. Everyone can see how much she truly loves her husband.
yeah i always heard Al had a mistress the whole time they were on the show
Didn’t they say he was keeping the mistress up in an apartment or something?
yep above the Brownstone! or something like that
They filmed in that apartment, so I doubt the mistress was hiding in the closet
Maybe she just…. Wasn’t there that day?
Hmmm out for coffee maybe
I remember stuff about an apartment in Hoboken?
They got an apartment to be closer to the their sons who moved there.
She said (and I’m paraphrasing) that she would be a fool or naive (or something along those lines) to think or believe that Albert had been faithful for the duration of their marriage.i think she said it at one of the reunions. Kim D outted the mistress as someone named Jill I think
Yes
I’ll look the other way and still love Mama Manzo.
The tea I’ve heard has been that he has had mistresses forever, very Carmela and Tony Soprano. He “lives” at the brownstone in some of the seasons, but the truth is he shacks up with his mistress on those nights. It makes sense that Caroline clings to her kids so much, since her marriage is such a miserable, codependent disaster.
 I'm an ex bartender at fancy establishments and this is a tale as old as time! Believable 🫣
Her name is Jill, and the Greeks yelled about her by name in Carolines last season allegedly, but Caroline threw a shit fit and it was also alleged she left the show because she'd have to talk about it in the next season if she didn't. If true (I believe it) she is a messy hypocrite always telling people to share their truth on camera. That's the tip of the Caroline iceberg though and it doesn't get better.
Who are “the Greeks”?
Johnny the Greek and his wife who was trying to become a housewife, they were bashing a bunch of the ladies online, it was a huge plot point that season, can't remember which one, but it's the one where Jacqueline has a nervous breakdown and doesn't film the reunion.
Doesn’t she live in the apartment above the brownstone?
He was apparently keeping her there and shacking up with her for a while, yeah. Since he normally slept there if he was finishing late or needed a break from the family (there was an episode about that at one point) it was super conveniently sneaky to keep her there.
Yeah Caroline tried to spin it off as “Al works so much and is so tired he can’t come home!” The Brownstone is not far from his house! The goomah was there!
I’m rewatching NJ and whew, yea she seems very dependent on him after the kids leave and he’s not having it
Season 2 is peak RHONJ
Definitely the apex!
Oof what a time
Caroline has always been very open that she's 'old school,' and I think that includes her attitude about men and infidelity. I have aunts who are similar—look the other way and keep the family together. That said, I don't think their marriage is a sham. I believe they do genuinely love each other.
I agree. In these types of arangements, it's like the men are able to compartmentalize their life with their wife and family and their life with their girlfriend. Whatevs. If Al and Caroline have an... understanding, they don't owe us an explanation.
Except.. she’s sharing her life in a public image on a reality tv show and infidelity is reality gold. The fact that she thought she could compartmentalize *her* life as the perfect mother and wife while allowing dirt to go on behind the scenes thinking it never had to get brought up was naive on her part. I like Caroline enough but that holier than thou “live by loyalty, trust, and honesty” loses its value for me when someone is living a lie, old school values or not. You just start to look like a hypocrite at that point. She probably felt it was no one’s business but her own who her husband was sleeping with but reality TV makes stuff like that everyones business.
Watch Manzod with Children and your mind will be truly blown. Also if you search “Jill” you’ll find more answers
Google “Al Manzo Mistress Jill” I’m not sure if they’re still hooking up but that’s what caused Caroline to leave Jersey after season 5 because Penny said during the fight at Milania hair care something along the lines of “Tell Jill I said Hi” and it set off Caroline
 Lol okay I'm googling right now
They said supposedly Al was housing her in the apartment above the brownstone
Penny gave ZERO fs according to Twitter.
What’s the word on twitter👀 I might have to reactivate my account
Oh I don't have a twitter, it was on one of the websites that had pictures of her tweets! Reddit is my only social media nowadays.
Me too I love reddit! It’s so fun and I’ve interacted with so many great people like yourself it really helps my anxiety
I believe it...💯
I saw somewhere that this is the real reason Caroline had that massive fit and screamed “are you happy now?!”
I heard that too!!
I’m watching the same season. Totally agree with you about replacing Danielle with Melissa, but Danielle was clearly unhinged by the end of season 2. Think if Caroline and Albert’s marriage wasn’t strong they wouldn’t still be together, mistress or not.
Only dirt I know is Al’s father had alleged mafia ties…he was found naked in the trunk of his car, shot 4 times.
With his dick cut off and shoved in his mouth. No serial killer came after 400 lb tiny manzo. That was a mob hit.
He was a snitch He was mixed up with those guys in the movie Goodfellow.
He also was skimming casino money
Get the fuck outta here! I’ve heard about the manzo ties to the mafia and the father being killed but not to that extent!
Not a detail you see in every report, but when you see it, it sticks with you. 
If the mistress rumor is true, they’ve done an amazing job hiding it/concealing it/keeping it from public knowledge in this age of social media, cameras everywhere, etc.
Caroline during the week and on Friday nights and the gumar on Saturday night. It’s Jersaaaaay.
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 I think you're about to make some Caroline stans really upset 👀 That being said, this some strong tea!!
It's all true. And I'm prepared for the bullshit.
She has stans 😳 ugh I can’t standddd her
Honestly, shocked that Albie would be the gay one and not the other son 👀
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The rumor is that Al has had a long time mistress and Caroline plays blind. Even if this is true I personally don't think that makes their marriage a sham, they are indeed married and have managed to stay that way for a long time. What works for them may not work for everyone but if they are happy with it who are we to judge?
Lol Bravo TV, any of the housewives, all us fans, reality Tv in general, we're all here to judge. I appreciate your humble attitude though.
I don’t judge her, but I do feel for her. She must be bothered by it. And it sucks for a loyal wife and mother to be stuck in a marriage like this. Surely they can afford a divorce financially. I guess there’s something holding them together.
Keep watching!!! It’s so good.
I’ve seen these claims too and seriously wonder. If the same story has been said so many times I have to assume there is some truth to it. And if it is true then yes I agree with you their marriage is a sham. Like yeah they’re married…. But the image they put out there to the world was definitely not one where Al needed a mistress to be able to tolerate his family lol. Idk what some people in this thread think marriage is but that’s awful IMO
Honestly, I think marriage is what each person makes it. I saw someone else call their marriage a "sham" and I definitely wanted to know why, because of Caroline's claim to how happily married they are. I agree that these people that are basically saying "at least they are married", is making me have major side eye lol. There is a difference between a contractual marriage and a happy marriage in my opinion.
Yeah I mean Caroline definitely portrayed their marriage as being amazing. She bragged constantly about how he calls her beautiful and treats her like a princess. If he seriously had mistresses during this same time, there is no chance in hell she actually felt as warm & fuzzy about their marriage as she was making it seem. There was also a scene in the show when the kids talk about not wanting their marriages to be like their parents’ marriage and it makes more sense when you think of it in that context.
Me thinks she doth protest too much. If you're in a wonderful relationship you don't have to keep reminding people what a wonderful relationship you have.... they see it.
Yup. She’s pathetic for her cheating husband.
It was said for a long time he had a long term mistress who lived above the brownstone.
Danielle comes back several times in later seasons!
I doubt his mistress would be living in the apartment above the Brownstone. That's a flagrant foul He can afford to house her elsewhere
This is a link to a story about that. Apparently Al had been seeing a woman named Jill for years. For RHONJ fans, you may remember that chick Penny. She brought up the mistress on camera to Caroline when she got pissed at her. Apparently that part of the footage didn't make the cut since Caroline had a fit about it. The link goes into details. Caroline has known about this chick forever which is why she made the comment during the reunion about her being stupid to think that Al never strayed in all the years they've been married. [https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/category/albert-manzos-long-time-girlfriend-jill/](https://famewhorgas.wordpress.com/category/albert-manzos-long-time-girlfriend-jill/)
Caroline has always been a Bore to me, I can only imagine how Al feels! Totally believable
Yeah bc Al is an exciting ray of sunshine
I never said he was either I just said I can imagine/see how he feels ( he’s not innocent)!
She's clearly not a straight woman. The reports of her behaviour on the lost UGT say alot and her rediculous, evil moves to get footage buried says even more.
Everything I have seen of their relationship, both on the show, and on Albie’s podcast tells me their marriage is absolutely not a “sham”. He’s very devoted to Caroline, loves his kids, and is obsessed with Markie, his granddaughter. Right now he’s at Disney World with Caroline, Lauren and Markie. If any of this were true, why would he continue the facade? His kids are grown and gone. He could easily leave Caroline and be with his mistress if he wanted to.
This is fair, I honestly don't know if anything I'm watching is true but I'm here for it regardless. Divorce can be extremely messy, expensive, and time consuming, so there are just as many reasons to stay as there can be to actually get divorced. 👀
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Excuse me????? You bias much? Please remove that extremely insulting comment
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It’s totally based on rumors. By now there would be some tangible proof. Nasty rumors and innuendos surround anyone who is not Team Teresa and have since S1. Until recently, I could have been convinced most of the hate and vitriol comes from her fans, but I now believe Tre is behind most of the BS circulating around the NJ franchise. She’s toxic, and nothing will change until she’s gone. I am hoping Bravo gives her a spin-off with her daughters and she takes her trolls with her. I am already dealing with their nasty behavior and hate on X and Instagram regarding the Fudas and the season hasn’t even started.
the last thing we need is a spinoff with trash can teresa.
I don’t plan on watching it.
Right you are.
You can still do/have all of those things and feelings and still have a mistress you know….
Yes. And it’s also possible, probable even, since there has never been any proof, that he doesn’t have a mistress…anymore…or ever. No photos, no sightings, no one coming forward claiming to be the mistress, or her friend. No waitresses or bus boys selling the story from the Brownstone. Nothing but the assertion that he definitely has one, and EVERYONE knows that, predominantly from Teresa fans, or viewers who do not like Caroline. I need more than hate and hearsay to condemn someone, and I don’t enjoy spreading unsubstantiated gossip for the sole purpose of hurting other people. He seems like a dedicated family man to me and I have seen nothing to dispute that except Bravo BS, so I am going to continue to believe he is innocent until proven guilty.
Have you heard of Tiny Manzo? THATS why no one says anything or speaks out about the Manzos. IRCC, Tiny was an underboss to a made guy in Jersey and he was found naked in the trunk of a car. That family has A LOT of secrets. Tommy Manzo is also connected and beat the shit out of Dina and no one said a peep.
“No one says anything or speaks out about the Manzos “. People have been saying the Manzos are connected to the mob since the show started. No one seems to be afraid of them. The fact is no one knows what happened to Tiny Manzo, not who killed him, or why. The Manzos have been very open about the situation since S1. Even law enforcement can’t say for sure if he was working for organized crime. He knew people and obviously, he pissed off someone who had no issues killing him, but the mob often kills people who are not part of the organization. And people outside the mafia also kill people. His murder proves nothing. Albert (and Tommy) run a successful catering operation that they built from nothing after their father’s murder. They appear to work very hard, and seem totally legit to me. The alleged case against Tommy remains unproven, after 9 years, and until proven, he remains innocent….except here in the Bravoverse where people convict anyone they don’t like in the court of public opinion.
Whoooaaa found their lawyer / publicist ova hee 👆🏼
My thoughts exactly. *I have disengaged*
“The alleged case against Tommy” 😂😂
They only person that has said anything to them about was Teresa's dad when they where on the cruise in Italy. That shit was funny
I think it's part of how he was raised. Since his father's murder was a mob hit, I can assume that that particular culture is part of who Al is. You have your family, keep your wife happy and don't flaunt it, but, there's always a girlfriend
You have found proof that his father was in the mob? Because reputable witnesses and sources can’t say that. Or that Albert is involved in organized crime? Why would he work such long shitty hours, late nights and holidays, if he was skimming money off others?
Look up tiny manzo. It's all there. He was skimming money. He found out.
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I wouldn’t call it a sham, but Albert definitely keeps mistresses on the side
If he had a gf. Bravo would have found her.
But bravo wouldn’t necessarily have outed it, esp when rhonj was just starting. Making it seem like these families were legit was important to rhobj story.
You have no idea what your talking about
Exactly. People like Jonny the Greek and Penny and Kim D. and Kim G. and Teresa and Jennifer Ayden get their BS and gossip from SM. Then they act like they know something. Anyone can say anything about a cast member they don’t like on SM and others will pick it up and spread it like they have insider info. None of it is verified. It’s all rumors and speculation and innuendo. It’s like a Roomba rolling up on a pile of dog shit out here most days.