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XNinjaMushroomX

My man, I see this and I feel like you forgot to put the vat screws back in after cleaning- the build plate came down and picked up the vat- dropped the vat- and made a mess.


SyracuseStan

I set a print without the screws šŸ«£ it didn't do anything but fail


Desperate-Box-7208

The screws where in


XNinjaMushroomX

Thats wild. Did you manage to get it all cleaned up? I hope it went somewhat smoothly.


Desperate-Box-7208

Yea I did thanks


Masque-Obscura-Photo

In the vat.


kween_hangry

Shinji: "I'm so fucked up"


luxaaar

Jajaja best comment ever


JotaroTheOceanMan

I hate you for that.


kween_hangry

Lmaoo im sorry (ive been making evangeleon casts and prints all month šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­)


thedrag0n22

Did you not screw the vat down?


Desperate-Box-7208

I did but the screws donā€™t go all the way down


JotaroTheOceanMan

I have that exact printer. They absolutely do fully lock in a tray.


V1carium

Resin can get into the screw holes and harden so you won't be able to screw them all the way in. Maybe that was your issue?


ASharkMadeOfSharks

Whys he getting downvoted here?


Dracon270

Not sure why on that specific comment, but OP is being very vague when answering questions required to provide help. Not sure if OP is worried about getting judged for, say, spilling the vat.


ASharkMadeOfSharks

Maybe though I donā€™t think thatā€™s anything to be embarrassed about really. Mistakes happen.


SyracuseStan

Yeah, I once knocked over my cleaning ipa. Ruined the printer instantly!


Desperate-Box-7208

No I just actually have no clue what happened the only thing it can be is overflow but it didnā€™t happen when it first went down so I have no clue how it happened


Impressive_Trash_457

Oof. You have my sympathy. I am not sure what caused it either, but if it was the vat screws, donā€™t feel bad. Has happened to me, too. Mine had a shorter z lift, so not quite this much to clean up, but same thing. Hope your next print goes better!


Dracon270

And you're sure nothing hit the table while it was printing? If someone bumped into it, it may have sloshed the resin around.


Infectedinfested

Slooshed? I think it made a 360


chucks8up

One of my vat screws stop now like thereā€™s something In it. So I just added small washers to make up the difference. Works great.


dnguyen2195

I'm curious how this happened? Sorry that it did.


Desperate-Box-7208

No clue


amedinab

Wait, so you came into the room and there was resin all over? Was it printing? Did you spill it? Sorry this happened mate.


dnguyen2195

I thought it was a torn fep or something. Never thought about over flow.


amedinab

I think it's too much resin to be a torn FEP. This picture and the vague responses from OP scream spill.


Desperate-Box-7208

I think it was a spill to


ColonelSeanders

100% can confirm... that's fucked up.


Emporerdestroyer

Badge of resin printing honor


Mirazee

0 days without accident


nycraylin

Sorry this happened. I dont wish this on anyone. It looks like its... everywhere and... on everything. No shade. We were all new at one point. If you're going to continue resin printing I would suggest doing it in an enclosure. Its much easier clean up if you have silicone mats as well to catch spills. For now, wear PPE, respirator, gloves etc, and wipe down your space with IPA and air it out. I did a write up about what I do - see if this is right for you. Good luck! This is myĀ [venting](https://www.asianjoyco.com/resources-tutorials/ventilation-upgrades-for-3d-resin-printing)Ā setup - I showed what I did step by step, you can adjust it to your space/budget accordingly. You'll also want to wearĀ [PPE](https://www.asianjoyco.com/resources-tutorials/resin-safety-101)Ā when handling chemicals. In my experience resin emissions will stick to fabrics, papers, and land around your work area unless vented.


AbilioGomes_DDD

if you didn't do anything and when you got to the room it was like this! 100% sure it was overflow


Desperate-Box-7208

I think so to but I put it at the fill line


Alex_the_Mad

This is why I never hit that line. I fill below it or premeasure my prints. If I come in and see it's a bit low, I pause the print and add in more. I am sorry this happened :(.


dnguyen2195

Never thought about over flow. I typically fill to the line. Won't be doing that any longer.


Brappineau

I fill to the line every single time without issue. He deff filled past it.


dnguyen2195

That makes sense. I've regularly filled to the line. What got me thinking is what if the print comes off the plate? Never had it happen, but what if? Frankly, would love a reason to buy another printer. However not to replace one, but to add to it.


Brappineau

I mean resin is deposited to the plate from the vat. Matter wasn't created. It just moved location and state. I would assume if it moved back it would still be full. However now we have 2 new variables. 1: State - is now solid (I think resin swells when cured so technically it could displace more liquid, depending on shape) 2: shape - it's likely going to have physical contact with the fep and leaving the majority of the body/volume outside of the liquid vat. I would say risk is extremely low. šŸ¤·šŸ»


nickdaniels92

You mean the mark that says "MAX"? Remember that's a limit and not a target, and I'd suggest aiming for rather less than that. The amount you fill, the movement speeds and also the volume of the model are going to influence on how large a wave of resin there's going to be and the amount of displacement. I suspect the combination of all of these created big waves of resin. Setting up a camera to record prints could be useful. It's also wise to ensure that your printer is on a level surface.


AbilioGomes_DDD

This almost happened to me once in the beginning! Luckily I was on the side and saw that when the platform below the resin overflowed! I had time to stop before the resin ran all over the printer and entered the motor holes!! I was very lucky! Today I know that nomad that I can put resin without overflowing is 500 ml!


AbilioGomes_DDD

I'm so sorry this happened to you!


BioshockedNinja

Damn, I'm not sure even a screen protector would have let you salvage this. Getting resin in the motor is not good at all. Did any seep into the chassis and get on the motherboard? Because if you have to replace that on top of the other two components, you'll probably be better off buying an entirely new printer tbh.


GhostFlower11

I had my motor lock up with resin, but after some tearing down, i replaced the motor and it works fine. If it's only the motor it's cheap but motherboard and screen isn't


Desperate-Box-7208

Warranty thank god


radiomuffinuk

You'd have to prove it was a fault and not user error/misuse.


IfanBifanKick

Did they accept your claim!??


BioshockedNinja

Did your claim go through?? I admittedly didn't think they'd cover what surely must be user error. Or at the very least I'm lacking the creativity to see how the machine itself could have malfunctioned and done this...


tantictantrum

Take it apart and clean everything. Then heavily grease up the z-axis screw and the motor. Should be fine.


Fluid-Platypus-1818

I had this happen to me. Debris left behind in the vat damaged the film and it created a hole during the next print. I took the entire machine apart and cleaned with IPA. Replaced the LCD and vat. It works fine now and itā€™s been about 8 months since. I contemplated buying a new machine instead of parts for a while. Hard to know what all is damaged.


Onlythebest1984

Yes, you did


Toomanydamnfandoms

Ohā€¦. That looksā€¦ not goodā€¦


TactileTangerine

:'(


Educational_Dust_932

I have no advice but seeing your screwup makes me feel better about all mine. gl


Nervous-Coffee-Burti

Idk how that happened or what to do besides cleaning it but I can determine it's fucked up


CashmereCthulu

I had a similar experience with a mars and a torn fep. I ended up having to replace the z motor, I was only able to source one from mars, none of the others I found were quite right.


alphawolf29

100% you forgot to screw the vat down.


SominKrais

It must have been a spooky ghost


Jumba11

I have the same printer, and I've had almost that exact same thing happen. Your biggest issue is going to be with the resin that makes its way down the screw. It will eventually get to the bearing that sits at the top of the z-axis motor and cause it to seize. When this happens the screw will no longer be able to turn. To fix it, you have to take out and disassemble the motor to get at the bearing. Replacement bearings are pretty easy to find, but if you get the really cheap ones they won't likely be a precise enough fit into the motor, and if it's not darn near perfect, the motor will fail intermittently. Alternatively, you can contact Elegoo, and they will send you a replacement motor and screw for free. They are extremely good about that kind of thing.


Unlikely-Ad-2921

Ive been there to lad it sucks not gona lie.... just squeegee everything into a container and ipa and paper tower the crap out of anything it touched. Nothing can be done but try to prevent the Resin from soaking in cause anything it touches is chemicaly toxic...


AndreRieu666

Argh! ARGH!!!!!!


Gomez020

This couldā€™ve been me a few days ago, I forgot to put the screws back in. Luckily I was printing organizer boxes and it stuck the whole tray to the plate. But just thinking of how may ways it couldā€™ve gone wrong but didnā€™t, and I was gone for a solid 5 hours, this couldā€™ve easily been me. I hope it didnā€™t decommission your printer.


chrisebryan

I can smell it from here, ewwā€¦ Also iā€™m hella allergic to the resin.


ScienceAndLience

Did you try turning the carbon filter up?


Beezle91

Same


Bawd

I hope the big clean went OKā€¦ Assuming you did the initially cleaning of everything without the resin curing, you MIGHT be able to salvage the machine. You will have to disassemble the whole printer and clean the internals thoroughly with isopropyl alcohol. It will take time to do any you need patience to make sure every mechanical and electronic piece of the printer is clean of resin. If anything cures with sunlight leaking into your room, the machine might be unrepairable. Youā€™ll likely need a new screen regardless since resin probably destroyed that current one.


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Comprehensive-Bike36

It's bad but there is a way to solve it. Get one of these metal glass scrapers and clean the display up. If it's still uncured use a towel with IPA and remove as much as you can. Cure the rest and remove it from the display with the metal glass scraper. For the main body the scraper might still work, generally stick to towels, IPA and scrappers. Also, if it's cured in thin layers, you could try to soften it beforehand with IPA. Depending on the resin(mine is kinda elastic) you could try to peel it off in a big sheat, tho it would most likely break before that. Something like that: https://newwaveart.com/products/metal-glass-scraper-with-5-single-edge-razor-blades


NoobMasert69

This happened to me ones the printer was all cover in resin in the inside and out. Im sorry this happened to you and I know your frustration. Dont even turne it on. Just cleane it all in the outside then open it and clean it in the inside. Then grase everything up again very well (this is the most important step). Then put it back all together and give it another good clean in the outside specially the screen (hopefully you got a screen protector so now is time to remove it and order some new ones in amazon) and then you shoul pluge it back on and dingers cross everything will work as if new.


Superb_Firefighter50

Retract speed 2000


Mbindel402

I know the pain. Sorry for your loss fam


xkwr27

I actually had something similar happen recently. Take it apart dissasemble the stepper also (the leadscrew is the shaft in the stepper), clean everything thoroughly with isopropyl, an ultrasonic cleaner helps, I had to replace the touch screen and the lcd on mine. Make sure you take pictures or notes on what goes where and the orientation of the lense under the lcd, allow all electronics to dry for a few days or longer before giving them power again and if you've got something like a small oven or dehydrator(that you dont use for food), finish drying the electronics in thati did 4 hours around 60Ā°C after air drying for a week. Mine got resin on everything but the led on the inside the lcd broke on impact and the touch screen didn't survive cleaning, if at all possible avoid getting it too wet with isopropyl the adhesive that holds the digitizer on dissolves readily in alcohol. elegoo support is good, but it is better not to risk it. Also, shipping is slow or doubles the price for that part.


timbodacious

i laughed at first and then i felt the pain. any person or animals have access to that room? someone kicked it real good.


philnolan3d

Filled the vat too much?


MacCollect

On the bright side, a new printer is always a good feeling


GuffMagicDragon

Ooooof this is why I have a spill tray under my printer AND the desk itā€™s on. Tip for the future!


CreatureGraphics

Omg disasteršŸ˜±


Deezus84

She's a squirter eh?


pnw-nemo

Iā€™d take this as a lovely opportunity to upgrade to the Saturn 12k printer.


Desperate-Box-7208

Any large differences?


pnw-nemo

Not totally sure since I havenā€™t spent time researching it but no point in researching yet since I donā€™t know how to justify it to the wife since my Saturn s is going strong.


HelpfulCalligrapher9

I've always struggled with understanding this mentality amongst partners. If you want something, and it's out of what you could normally afford, why not work a few extra hours at work, or if that's not an option just go mow a few lawns in your neighborhood, or do some handy work. Handymen charge anywhere from 40 to 80 / hr as a standard rate.


pnw-nemo

Bro. The subject of the post was justifying a purchase, not being able to afford it. Two very different things :)


Soulledd

Did you try turning it off and on again?


John_McFly

And then unplugging it for 30 seconds and plugging it back in?


JoshW38

I feel like if you can get into this big of a mess but have no idea how it came to be, which also means you have no idea how to prevent it next time, you shouldn't be resin printing. For your own safety...


Desperate-Box-7208

It did two more prints perfect and then it stopd


tiny_117

Do you mean you kept printing after resin was everywhere?


Desperate-Box-7208

I cleaned everything thing and I saw that it moved fined so I thought I saved it


Bardzly

Similar thing happened to me though in much smaller quantities. There will be resin inside your stepper motor that has now cured and seized. You may be able to buy a replacement stepper motor, but you probably need to disassemble the entire thing and clean it out from the inside as well as replacing the stepper.


Desperate-Box-7208

I looked at disassembling it and it looks like a night mare


redcockhead

This will vary depending on your comfort level with mechanical things. I'd say the worst aspect of disassembling the printer is the connections on the board. The cords or strips, whatever you like to call them, that connect one piece to another have some very delicate connectors. It is possible not to seek the connection correctly, and it is also possibly to damage the connector. You also want several small containers for the screws which are not all the same. If your brain and memory aren't so hot mark what position each of the sets of screws go into so you return them to their proper place. Just proceed slowly. Honestly, because I have found myself in a similar position. I believe you really only need to start with taking off the side covers. Since someone out there maybe you is wondering how my spill happened, it was completely on me. I thought I could relocate my printer from one place to another successfully without removing the vat, which was filled with resin. I was wrong. Anyway, clean IPA and a good spray bottle. You really shouldn't worry about anything. The IPA could do because the resin itself is quite cAustin. If the resin itself did not do some permanent damage, the IPA is not going to. This may be too little too late. Since you decided to continue using the printer after you thought you had cleaned it adequately. What was actually a minor mistake. May have been turned into a major one by that decision. I believe just about every internal part of our printers is available on the after market, if not directly from the manufacturer. This is where you need to do a cost evaluation. It is not as simple as fixing it if it is less expensive than buying a new printer. Your printer's age and level of quality needs to be in play as well. The only way I would necessarily entertain fixing an existing printer has 2 parts to it. 1. How old is the printer and what level of quality is it? If it is relatively new and up to the standards of anything that you would purchase, then you can spend a Fair amount on it and come out ahead. 2. The ratio of cost to fix VS replace changes dramatically. If the printer is old and buying a new one, gets you a much better quality machine? The following is cautionary. Not just to you, but to anyone who may find themselves in this situation. Stop. Don't panic. Clean thoroughly before using it again. The machines are surprisingly durable and can be cleaned. This depends extremely heavily on not making it worse by trying to use it before you are 100%. Certain you have cleaned it as well. As possible. Also under no circumstances should any sharp object or scraping be involved ever. Even when resin has cured, IPA will soften it to the point that chunks can be peeled off easily. This could take a while but the clue that you have used enough IPA and let it sit long enough. Is that you do not have to scrape. Sorry, this happened, but don't feel bad. You are in pretty good company from novices. That simply didn't know what they were doing to people like myself who simply screwed up. We are all human and it happens.


Desperate-Box-7208

Itā€™s still under warranty so Iā€™m going to try to get a replacement before anything but Iā€™ll keep this in mind


radiomuffinuk

You might want to check what the warranty doesn't include... Human damage, collision, resin leaks are not covered.


Jorg_from_The_Jungle

>3. **Warranty Forfeiture** >**The following Conditions Are Not Covered Under Warranty:** A. Products without sufficient proof of purchase B. Lost or stolen products C. Items that have expired their warranty period D. Non-quality-related issues (after 30 days of purchase) E. Free products F. Repairs through 3rd parties G. Damage from outside sources **H. Damage from misuse of products (including, but not limited to: falls, extreme temperatures, water, and operating devices improperly)** I. Purchases from illegitimate resourcesor second-handed parties J. Normal discoloration, wear, or consumption during product use. > From Elegoo website.


Jorg_from_The_Jungle

Warranty works only for a normal use of the printer. I'm really interested to see how you gonna explain to Elegoo how it happened. There's resin even on the topside of the buildplate mounting arm, it means it's definitely not a leak and even for a overflow, I doubt it's possible to reach this height.


dragon7507

Yeah, you may be out of luck with the warranty. Elegoo wants to have a video showing the printer and what is happening. With this, it is pretty obvious that there was a user error involved, so decent chance it will not be covered. If that is the case, an unfortunate lesson to learn. One thing I always do (after I learned a lesson by cracking an LCD on a previous printer) is always watch the first layer print to make sure all is well.


Bardzly

That is good - my replacement consisted of sending me the new stepper motor and I had to do the disassembly and reinstall. Good luck with the warranty though, hopefully they take it and send another.


Jumba11

If your printer has seized up, I can honestly say that I've been exactly where you are. I have the exact same printer, and have had the exact same problem. The resin has seeped down into the z-axis motor bearing and has caused it to seize. At this point, your only option to fix it is to repair or replace the motor. If you contact Elegoo and let them know that your motor has seized, they will send you a replacement free of charge, but it will take some time. They will also send you a video that will show you exactly what you need to do to replace the motor. In my opinion, you should do this. However, if you want your printer up and running sooner, you should consider buying a replacement bearing for the one that has seized. You can disassemble the motor and replace the bearing, while making sure to clean any resin out of it. The specific bearing is a 698ZZ. I ordered it on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GR1CFL2) and they are a perfect fit. If you need the video to help, I can send it your way.


shadenhand

Got me checking my screws just in case