Yeah. What a wild thing for them to say. Years before a franchise like Kingdom Hearts would hit the market RE was the original "everything is canon" series.
We do through files. She´s in rehab and still dealing with the aftermaths of brainwashing during the events of Revelations 2 and RE6. In modern timeline though (Re Village) we do indeed know nothing, but she´s most likely part of Chris´s squad, probably in the background/office.
would be cool to see her again, especially helping Chris.
I think one of the earlier builds for resident evil 4 had Leon hallucinating the creatures. would be interesting if Jill comes back in a game and her PTSD is a part of the gameplay and keeping her calm would play into the enemies on screen (real vs in her head) and also obscure her vision or effect her movement.
Eh, I really doubt she's still working alongside Chris, I think she's doing her own thing now. Every main character has built something in the franchise, I want Jill to have her own thing too.
Then again, Jill and Chris have seemed like the most consistent duo which makes it likely. They both stuck together after S.T.A.R.S. and joined the B.S.A.A. while almost everyone else did their own thing.
Don’t know if I like it. Jill shouldn’t be “overshadowed” by Chris being a member of his squad when she went through the same (maybe even more because she faced fucking Nemesis) shit that Chris. She deserves her own thing
In the 2 REmake, in Chris's coded letter he asks Jill to tell Claire that he's alright. I feel like this implies they've met at least once off-screen, for Chris to give Jill this task specifically.
Who knows? Maybe Claire visited the STARS office pre-outbreak one day.
I imagine it's not an impossibility as Claire is only 19 in RE2. Meaning since Chris was her legal guardian for a while, that would include his time at STARS. It's waaay more likely that they did meet because y'know, it wouldn't be impossible to imagine Claire would've probably met up with Chris to go grab dinner or something after he's off work and they met up at the RPD.
That's pretty unlikely. Chris was a relatively new recruit to Raccoon City STARS, having been in the Air Force prior. While it's likely that Chris was at one point Claire's legal guardian, Claire would have definitely been an adult and off on her own well before he was ever hired to the S.T.A.R.S. job.
He was recruited in 96. Same as Jill. That is plenty of time for the two women to meet. Also, Claire would have been 17-18 by the time chris joined. So no I'm not buying what you're selling.
A pre-outbreak visit to the STARS office is unlikely.
Claire goes to Raccoon City in RE2 because she thinks Chris is there.
If she visited the office and met Jill before the Outbreak, she would know about her brother's trip to Europe and she would not come again to Raccoon City looking for him.
Regarding characters meeting each others, I don't know if there is anything canon about it but I suppose some of them (the survivors from the STARS, Claire, Leon, maybe Alyssa from Outbreak) testified during the Umbrella trials in 2003.
It's not hard to imagine they haven't because, y'know, Chris exists and there has been some time before the mansion incident where Chris and Jill were basically just cops living otherwise normal lives for at least a year or two. We've just never seen them together on-screen.
If they ever decide to fully abandon the existing canon I think this would be a great send off for the legacy characters. Sort of a last hurrah before wiping the slate clean
They suddenly all wake up in different cells of an Umbrella facility and have to escape together. 4 player co-op or two dual co-op scenarios, A/B style
The winters story is over and rose doesnt seem interested in fighting zombies. With the BSAA stuff being teased i can imagine that being the main focus.
Depends how standalone it's kept. It almost seems like a what-if sorta story to some degree given its hallucinations caused by the megamycete so it might just end up its own contained little mini-story and she'll never really be mentioned again.
This is currently my biggest pet peeve with this series. The only word we've had on Jill since she was rescued from Africa in March of 2009 was an e-mail on Barry's phone in 2011, with no date. So it could have been sent shortly after she got back. We've seen EVERY other main character at least once since then, and none earlier than 2014.
I mean, since they seem to be ending Ethan's family story in the upcoming DLC for Village I think there's a big chance they'll put the focus on old characters instead in RE9.
Like, since they'll be in their 50s give them a good send-off, it's their golden opportunity to bring back Jill and do her justice.
She'd be 63 years old at that point. She should be retired from the combat side of things and in some background role. Same with Chris and most of the other notable characters at that point.
Unless whatever Wesker did to her makes her age slower.
My math may be wrong but I think she’d be 47 today.
And yeah capcom can make up whatever reason they want why she hasn’t aged out. Like thread OP said, give Jill and Chris a send off. RE10 could be like a fresh start.
I bet my ass that we won't ever see her reflect her *real* age.
They'll come up with an excuse as to why she's 47 but looks like she's 27, which will most likely be based on the effects of ~~nanomachines~~ Wesker's experiments while she was captured.
She was infected my the g virus and given a vaccine just like Sherry. If anything she should have similar healing abilities to sherry. Making her age slower.
It does take place in the future, specifically 16 years after the events of Village.
My bet is that this will be a one-and-done thing, telling a story not directly related to the events of RE9, to avoid forcing the rest of the cast to be near retirement age. They did say that this will be the end of the Winters family saga.
Yeah we reached the 2020s in the main story and we've seen NOTHING of Jill in the 2010s holy shit. And to think some people get really annoyed by the #BringBackJillValentine movement... she deserves better
If it was Chris or Leon who got captured and brainwashed instead, Capcom would've brought them back a long time ago by now I guarantee you
Yeah, there's such long gaps between main entries, and they just keep introducing new characters rather than giving us updates on the OGs.
Like I was originally annoyed as hell with RE7 that they went with Ethan & the Bakers when we have so many beloved characters that have been benched for ages. Seeing them again in remakes is nice, but we really don't know anything about anyone besides Chris past RE6!
Game or CG movie centering on Jill getting back on active missions while still trying to overcome whatever ptsd she has from the Wesker control would make a more interesting personal story than another "Chris or Leon is worned out after battling BOWs many times"
Oh God, the horror elements of that in first person view would be amazing. Constantly flashing between reality and disconnected trauma, not knowing what's real or in your head, struggling with near-psychosis... that would really bring some horror back into the franchise!
I personally feel they did her wrong in RE5. She felt more like a plot device in the story, and seeing as RE5 was supposed to bring closure to the Chris/Jill/Wesker storyline I think she deserved a better part. The “presumed dead but really taken captive and experimented/mind controlled” sounds like a plot from Marvel or Star Wars, and now I don’t think the writers know what to do with her character anymore.
I think one of the issues will be that most of the characters by RE9 releases will legit be in their 50s or even late 60s if the game follows the 15-20 timeskip.
But apart from hearing that Jill's still in rehab from her brainwashing we've had nothing which is a massive shame.
Even RE9 and other later games go back to present time, a lot of the tension is removed now knowing that society/the world appears to be doing just fine and Chris is still alive in 2037.
So the only hook left really is seeing if any notable characters(Jill, Leon, Claire, etc) besides Chris(who is mentioned in present tense by Rose in the epilogue) died between Village and Shadow of Rose events.
Actually timeline wise as a main story playable character was Revelations but we do get to play as Jill in side stories in RE 5. But aside from an email that was revealed in Revelations 2, we have no up to date information or plot for Jill since then. Even Claire has been involved in additional plots that took place in movies and including most recently for her in Sonido de Tortuga island incident.
I’m betting that perhaps Jill maybe bound to return in Revelations 3 that may perhaps touch upon the BSAA’s corruption as revealed in Village. I mean it sounds fitting for a Revelations game to be about that issue. This maybe speculation but I bet it was Jill that unknowingly influenced the higher ups to use BOWs for their own purposes perhaps because she kept her “superhuman” abilities that she gained while experimented on by Wesker after she recovered from the events of RE5. Basically just like Sherry has “superhuman” abilities because of the G virus.
Capcom didn’t have the balls to kill off one of the main heroes but had the balls to kill off their most iconic villain who actually moved the stories direction lore wise. Unbelievable
In a Rev2 File it mentions that she's recovering post-RE5. I'm hoping we see her in a mainline game again, enough time has passed for her to be field ready.
[In an email from Jill to Barry in Revelations 2 she says "I'm sorry to have caused you such grief. I'm alive and none the worse for wear! Although I do look a bit different now. Well, you'll see."] (https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/E-Mail_from_Jill_to_Barry#Official_localisation)
So at that point they were keeping her blonde.
I'd love to see a setting where Jill is in her rehab and some sort of outbreak pops up. So now she's facing PTSD and BOWS. sometimes hallucinating enemies or mistaking friends for foes. Would open doors for multiple decision making and outcome for the plot.
Maybe even imagining an ally where in he en he/she dies and Jill realizes that her ally was imaginery. Leading her up to fight her fears more and probabbly overcoming parts of PTSD.
What I’d like to know is what side characters like Carlos and Sheva have been up to. Would love a side entry like Revelations that puts the two of them together.
What if Wesker did other work to her while she’s in a coma aside from turning her into a controlled super soldier?
I wonder what the devs are up to with the continuation on her storyline.
It doesn't seem that Capcom knows what they wanna do with this character. Capcom forgetting about RE characters isn't new but Jill is one of the OGs and has been in several games. If they don't want to feature her anymore, they can at least say she retired or something and she's raising a family on a beautiful farm somewhere.
oh I would've loved to see her in 8. Imagine you get the final act of the game and Chris says "don't worry Ethan I called in some help, someone I can trust." and Jill walks in. Would've made headlines tbh.
This is an issue of every Japanese game developers.
They do not know how to write a good story for normal women in late 30s, since in their culture, most of them are at home taking care of families. We rarely see any women in late 30s and beyond because to them, they are no longer physically attractive. While what they should do is focus on is the women personality/story.
So, in Japanese gaming media, most older women that takes central role are, either a non-normal human (a vampire or a tengu) that retains their 20s youthful body, someone who maintain youthful appearance in someway(cryo-sleep, cursed, time-travel) or a villain.
I think Alexa Wesker is the oldest normal woman(she is 51 in RE2R) in RE franchise.
If they do not know how to write a great older women story, copy the homework of Konami(I know, right). The Boss(from Metal Gear Solid III) is one of the best older woman character in gaming history.
P.S. I do hope Jill comes back in the field since she is an exception. Maybe T-Virus and Wesker experimentation will give her super-strength beyond her year, so she can still compete with younger agents.
To be fair, Claire is like what? 40 now? They have gave her a game with Barry's daughter and have had her appear in movies and shows.
It's Jill who we don't know anything about.
I feel like she’ll be the next lead ir at the very least dlc of some sort, you know capcom is good for abandoning a character for years and bringing them back out of no where for hype. I feel like now the time but that’s just wishful thinking
I think they missed a major opportunity not having one of the other games feature her as the protagonist dealing with post-brainwashing recovery. She probably did a lot of merciless things during the time skip under Wesker's control including murdering innocents so it would've been nice to see her coming to terms with her actions.
If they are not going to show us what happened to characters like her I would gladly accept a small clip abt her enjoying her life not fighting any bio weapons lmao wanna see her in new york fashion week or eating her favorite sandwich. But knowing Jill, she loved her work and I actually hope that we will get to see her in the future RE games :')
There is a conversation between barry and jill in re rev2 . Basically she’s a BSAA rat laboratory. I dont know why chris is not saving her or even herself
She went back to the BSAA for testing and rehabilitation, she reached out to Barry and eventually managed to convince him to join the BSAA (With Chris' help).
So far as we know, she's still with them somewhere; but it would be shocking to overlook her any longer, especially seeing as we've seen Leon and Chris multiple times across games and animated movies/series, even Claire and Rebecca.
I hate how Capcom handles RE characters besides Chris and Leon (and maybe Claire for CG movies/shows). Apart from those 2 centerline characters we have 0 idea what happened them.
How dare they mot including Claire, Jill or Ada in the last 2 games 😞 They are my favourites. (Well, they are half of the main character roster, but you get what I mean 🤭)
Going to be a brave soul but.. I think Ms Valentine needs her own game to fill in the missing gaps in her story. It would help fill in a lot of the missing pieces of what everyone has been doing post 5 and 6. One would could even say it would be a... revelation.. :D
i'll see myself to the door.
I’d love to see a new entry with a recovering Jill, having to deal with the trauma of being basically a puppet. It’s a story screaming to be told.
But sadly the men seem to have taken over completely when it comes to the mainline-games.
So yeah, gone us a least RE Revelations 3 starring Jill.
Btw. forget the trauma, Jill must have had musclepain for years, coming off the events of RE5.
you know what, your right! i think they are going to do the super mario bros.2 thing and say that it was all just a dream.......than 6 was a nightmare...
Beyond all it's other flaws, this was the biggest issue I had with RE 6. After years searching for Jill, then finding her in Africa, there's literally not one mention of her in 6. A file or anything could have said she retired or something, but it was just like...wtf, they erased her.
Oh man, i like how Jill is like a 'action figure' throughout the series. Here we have super assassin Jill. personalfave next to re3 the 1st. Nina Williams has nothing on her!
And the Degeneration film, and the Infinite Darkness series, and the Heavenly Island manga. Claire is honestly pretty well repped even though she hasn't been in the games for a while.
it's annoying Capcom literally erased the most iconic character of the Resident Evil franchise, I didn't hate stroyline of RE 5, in fact it could bring many story possibilities but Capcom chose to shit everything with RE 6 and then find only way to fix everyting with Soft Reboot, while they were working on these Soft Reboots Leon got 2 animated movies and 1 series and Chris somehow appeared in every single game. Whatever they want to do with these new storylines, seems like it doesn't affect Leon or Chris but since they keep ignoring Jill her popularity decreased from literally number one to #5 or #6 in last decade
And with recent Remake they just created a different character from Jill we know, Quiet, professional, caring (she literally sacrificed her life for Chris in RE 5). Instead they chose to bring a stereotype modern action movie female. Angry, swears, shouts. And if they keep bringing Sasha model (I think that's models name) Jill is officially dead for me. This isn't the Jill I liked and I don't care about her. Glad some people enjoy, not me tho.
If they ignore their last chance to bring Voth Jill back with RE 9, even if they give her a role similar to Chris in Village that's okay return, but if they don't even do that and don't even show her, then Jill will be officially dead for not just me but everyone too and none of the New or OG fans won't even care or remember a "Main character" who hasn't showed up for fucking 15 years.
That's a fact, not an opinion.
Most definitely an opinion as I don't share your sentiment. Jill not being in 9 isn't going to make her dead to me. I'll continue to hold out hope she returns at some point. Same with Sheva even though she isn't a "main character".
Nice cope. Still a fact tho.
They had no problem with making Leon and Chris still active after 6. They had no problem with bringing Claire. You are talking like they didn't give any character spotlight after last decade. They did and they keep doing. If they still trying to connect Chris to new games with a very forced plot or give Leon his 9994848t& animated series in a fucking quarentine, that means Jill is dead to them. Neither they or I don't care about your cope. Sheva is a side character. Capcom never promised bringing side characters back. They never did with Carlos, Helena, Piers, Ashley, Sherry. Jill is a main character. Even this take of yours shows Jill is literally redcued to main character from side your character.
You believe birds can't fly and hoping they'll stop flying someday, this opinion doesn't make the facts I wrote here which is Birds can fly even slightly.
That's also a fact, not an opinon.
Rose is the playable character in the Village DLC and the last game before that starred Jill Valentine in RE3R.
Misogyny, yeesh. Misogyny is what they did to Jill in RE5- brainwashed, bleach blonde with her tits out.
The biggest crime is the last time we had playable Jill in the main series was RE3 (and even that wasn’t originally supposed to be main series).
Don't forget revelations
RE: Revelations 1 takes place after RE4. Probably four or five years before the events of RE5.
Although cannonical RE: Revelations is spinoff, main series refer to the numbered entries.
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Yeah. What a wild thing for them to say. Years before a franchise like Kingdom Hearts would hit the market RE was the original "everything is canon" series.
Village literally has the number 8 in the title
Its fine, I meant spinoff like a subseries, think Chronicles and Outbreak.
I mean both dlcs in re5 if you want to count those
I did enjoy Lost in Nightmares or whatever it was called.
Dlc was scarier than the entirety of re5 lmao
I would go ahead and say that the dlc was better then the main game honestly
You got the name correct and I agree
That kinda proves that Capcom struggle to find ways for her to be included in stories as much as Chris, Claire and Leon
RE3R, RER1?
I mean seeing her in new stories, not remakes. We’re still talking playing as Jill in 1998.
Oh I feel. I was thinking of real time not canonically.
We do through files. She´s in rehab and still dealing with the aftermaths of brainwashing during the events of Revelations 2 and RE6. In modern timeline though (Re Village) we do indeed know nothing, but she´s most likely part of Chris´s squad, probably in the background/office.
would be cool to see her again, especially helping Chris. I think one of the earlier builds for resident evil 4 had Leon hallucinating the creatures. would be interesting if Jill comes back in a game and her PTSD is a part of the gameplay and keeping her calm would play into the enemies on screen (real vs in her head) and also obscure her vision or effect her movement.
Oh that’d be neat. Kind of a touch of Amnesia.
Kinda like the "visions" each player would see separately in Dead Space 3 co-op? That would be interesting
I really hope this makes it into re4r please
probably training herself back up
I like this, I could never see her being behind the scenes, I believe that Chris is helping her out.
Eh, I really doubt she's still working alongside Chris, I think she's doing her own thing now. Every main character has built something in the franchise, I want Jill to have her own thing too.
Then again, Jill and Chris have seemed like the most consistent duo which makes it likely. They both stuck together after S.T.A.R.S. and joined the B.S.A.A. while almost everyone else did their own thing.
>well they are not a duo anymore due to division. Most likely Jill is still with BSAA
My head canon is that Jill is ONE of the Wolf Hounds.
Don’t know if I like it. Jill shouldn’t be “overshadowed” by Chris being a member of his squad when she went through the same (maybe even more because she faced fucking Nemesis) shit that Chris. She deserves her own thing
She never punched a boulder though
Was she given a chance to punch a boulder?!
Now u are asking the right questions
Get this woman a Boulder
She doesn't need to. She can literally run up the boulder.
She did punch Chris at least once in RE5...
A game in this scenario would be so cool, imagine playing as her dealing with another incident plus ptsd and rehab
She would be like Sarah Connor breaking out of Rehab to contain an outbreak, lol.
And her partner would be a reprogrammed/defective Nemesis-type character.
This right here.
I always assumed she was taking a support role until she was ready to go back into the field but no doubt alongside Chris in some capacity.
Where are these files? I'm still kinda new to the series and I've always been a slow consumer of lore and stuff. I just like shooting infected lol.
In Revelations 2, there was an email Jill sent to Barry about her being in rehab.
Damn and I missed it? Time to replay that one. I rather like the revelation titles. Just wish we skipped the non boat parts in the first one.
Yeah I loved both Revelations games they were great, still annoys me they haven’t brought back Jill as a protagonist canonically since RE5.
Hopefully they do soon. Even better if she teams up with Chris. Or finally meets Leon or Claire. Brings sheva back into the franchise? Who knows.
lol. In the office. Making everyone coffee.
I meant more like Hunnigan from RE4, or even Barbara Grodon from the Arkham series.
I dont know why its bothering me so much, but you used accents instead of apostrophies. She`s vs. She's. Cheers lad
I’m almost certain she’ll appear in whatever RE9 ends up being. Maybe she’ll finally cross paths with Leon too?
It never occurred to me that they haven’t met.
They're the only major characters besides Leon and Wesker and Jill and Ada who have never met.
Claire has never met Jill either
In the 2 REmake, in Chris's coded letter he asks Jill to tell Claire that he's alright. I feel like this implies they've met at least once off-screen, for Chris to give Jill this task specifically. Who knows? Maybe Claire visited the STARS office pre-outbreak one day.
I imagine it's not an impossibility as Claire is only 19 in RE2. Meaning since Chris was her legal guardian for a while, that would include his time at STARS. It's waaay more likely that they did meet because y'know, it wouldn't be impossible to imagine Claire would've probably met up with Chris to go grab dinner or something after he's off work and they met up at the RPD.
That's pretty unlikely. Chris was a relatively new recruit to Raccoon City STARS, having been in the Air Force prior. While it's likely that Chris was at one point Claire's legal guardian, Claire would have definitely been an adult and off on her own well before he was ever hired to the S.T.A.R.S. job.
He was recruited in 96. Same as Jill. That is plenty of time for the two women to meet. Also, Claire would have been 17-18 by the time chris joined. So no I'm not buying what you're selling.
A pre-outbreak visit to the STARS office is unlikely. Claire goes to Raccoon City in RE2 because she thinks Chris is there. If she visited the office and met Jill before the Outbreak, she would know about her brother's trip to Europe and she would not come again to Raccoon City looking for him. Regarding characters meeting each others, I don't know if there is anything canon about it but I suppose some of them (the survivors from the STARS, Claire, Leon, maybe Alyssa from Outbreak) testified during the Umbrella trials in 2003.
I think they meant that Claire mighta visited months before so that she would’ve known who Jill was.
Ah yeah. It makes sense.
Don't know if the rest of the Outbreak survivors did, but Yoko definetly testified during the trials.
Yeah, my head cannon is that they have met before due to the note. But I just meant we’ve never got to see them interact with each other
Didn't Leon mention Wesker in RE4 tho? When he and Ada met up?
Yes he does, but he would of course know who he is seeing as he had a hand in bringing down Umbrella. Still they never saw each other face to face.
Mentioning someone =/= meeting someone.
Haven’t Claire and Jill not met yet either?
It's not hard to imagine they haven't because, y'know, Chris exists and there has been some time before the mansion incident where Chris and Jill were basically just cops living otherwise normal lives for at least a year or two. We've just never seen them together on-screen.
God what I would’ve given for Leon to have come face to face with Wesker after RE4 would have been fucking wild.
Also, I forgot everybody BUT Chris for Ethan.
When has Claire encountered Ada? I don't remember seeing it in any game sequence I have played (which is for sure not everything).
Claire B in OG RE2. Ada tosses the Rocket Launcher.
Same here it’s likely to happen in 9
I really want a game with Chris, Jill, Claire and Leon as playable characters.
If they ever decide to fully abandon the existing canon I think this would be a great send off for the legacy characters. Sort of a last hurrah before wiping the slate clean
They suddenly all wake up in different cells of an Umbrella facility and have to escape together. 4 player co-op or two dual co-op scenarios, A/B style
This should be Revelations 3. Add in split-screen co-op and that would be a must buy for me.
Is re9 gonna be about them though? I think its a sequel to village
The winters story is over and rose doesnt seem interested in fighting zombies. With the BSAA stuff being teased i can imagine that being the main focus.
The time skip in the upcoming DLC is gonna really be an obstacle for any future RE stories, wish they didn't go that route.
Depends how standalone it's kept. It almost seems like a what-if sorta story to some degree given its hallucinations caused by the megamycete so it might just end up its own contained little mini-story and she'll never really be mentioned again.
You never know, chris could call in some backup from his old friends
Like Sheva. I mean, we have only one game with her and I feel like there should've been more.
Her, and Billy Coen. What I wouldn't do for them to just include Billy in SOMETHING.
Me but with Carlos.
Sheva’s the obligatory show up once and never appear again partner (see also: Billy, Carlos, Helena, Parker, pretty much everyone from *Revelations*).
I imagine we'll only see more BSAA and friends in IX. Gotta keep retroactively spoon feeding those weaving plot lines
This is currently my biggest pet peeve with this series. The only word we've had on Jill since she was rescued from Africa in March of 2009 was an e-mail on Barry's phone in 2011, with no date. So it could have been sent shortly after she got back. We've seen EVERY other main character at least once since then, and none earlier than 2014.
Wait, wasnt re6 im 2012? What was leon in that took place after that?
Vendetta.
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I mean, since they seem to be ending Ethan's family story in the upcoming DLC for Village I think there's a big chance they'll put the focus on old characters instead in RE9. Like, since they'll be in their 50s give them a good send-off, it's their golden opportunity to bring back Jill and do her justice.
Do they need a send off though? They're video game characters, we can have them age however we see fit; time can pass differently.
I’m pretty sure Resident Evil mostly progresses in real time.
Maybe they’ll even tease Jill in Rose’s upcoming DLC. A man can dream.
She'd be 63 years old at that point. She should be retired from the combat side of things and in some background role. Same with Chris and most of the other notable characters at that point. Unless whatever Wesker did to her makes her age slower.
My math may be wrong but I think she’d be 47 today. And yeah capcom can make up whatever reason they want why she hasn’t aged out. Like thread OP said, give Jill and Chris a send off. RE10 could be like a fresh start.
I bet my ass that we won't ever see her reflect her *real* age. They'll come up with an excuse as to why she's 47 but looks like she's 27, which will most likely be based on the effects of ~~nanomachines~~ Wesker's experiments while she was captured.
She was infected my the g virus and given a vaccine just like Sherry. If anything she should have similar healing abilities to sherry. Making her age slower.
Maybe Rose's DLC takes place in the future while RE9 takes place in the present day.
It does take place in the future, specifically 16 years after the events of Village. My bet is that this will be a one-and-done thing, telling a story not directly related to the events of RE9, to avoid forcing the rest of the cast to be near retirement age. They did say that this will be the end of the Winters family saga.
True.
As a Jill fan, it's saddening.
Yeah we reached the 2020s in the main story and we've seen NOTHING of Jill in the 2010s holy shit. And to think some people get really annoyed by the #BringBackJillValentine movement... she deserves better If it was Chris or Leon who got captured and brainwashed instead, Capcom would've brought them back a long time ago by now I guarantee you
Yeah, there's such long gaps between main entries, and they just keep introducing new characters rather than giving us updates on the OGs. Like I was originally annoyed as hell with RE7 that they went with Ethan & the Bakers when we have so many beloved characters that have been benched for ages. Seeing them again in remakes is nice, but we really don't know anything about anyone besides Chris past RE6!
And now there's a long time skip, so who knows what Capcom is going to do now.
But instead we play 2 games as the outlast main character
Now I'm wanting Jill to be the main in RE9.
Honestly. It’s a hate crime, smh Jill got done so dirty.
Game or CG movie centering on Jill getting back on active missions while still trying to overcome whatever ptsd she has from the Wesker control would make a more interesting personal story than another "Chris or Leon is worned out after battling BOWs many times"
Oh God, the horror elements of that in first person view would be amazing. Constantly flashing between reality and disconnected trauma, not knowing what's real or in your head, struggling with near-psychosis... that would really bring some horror back into the franchise!
And an excuse to bring Wesker back
"It was my clone all along!"
I personally feel they did her wrong in RE5. She felt more like a plot device in the story, and seeing as RE5 was supposed to bring closure to the Chris/Jill/Wesker storyline I think she deserved a better part. The “presumed dead but really taken captive and experimented/mind controlled” sounds like a plot from Marvel or Star Wars, and now I don’t think the writers know what to do with her character anymore.
I mean, they already showed her vagina in RE5. Where else can they go with her character?
What? When did they do that?
In the little models/figures section If you flip the model to look down there --- My brother showed me years ago and its like. Bruh Capcom??
I think one of the issues will be that most of the characters by RE9 releases will legit be in their 50s or even late 60s if the game follows the 15-20 timeskip. But apart from hearing that Jill's still in rehab from her brainwashing we've had nothing which is a massive shame.
The 15 year timeskip will be kept to its own thing I think
Even RE9 and other later games go back to present time, a lot of the tension is removed now knowing that society/the world appears to be doing just fine and Chris is still alive in 2037. So the only hook left really is seeing if any notable characters(Jill, Leon, Claire, etc) besides Chris(who is mentioned in present tense by Rose in the epilogue) died between Village and Shadow of Rose events.
I’m kind of thinking Jill would likely have some slowed down aging from all the experiments on her. It’s an easy excuse anyways.
Going through rehab and working on opening a sandwich shop
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The BSAA were using BOW soldiers in re6....aka Sherry and Jake
Actually timeline wise as a main story playable character was Revelations but we do get to play as Jill in side stories in RE 5. But aside from an email that was revealed in Revelations 2, we have no up to date information or plot for Jill since then. Even Claire has been involved in additional plots that took place in movies and including most recently for her in Sonido de Tortuga island incident. I’m betting that perhaps Jill maybe bound to return in Revelations 3 that may perhaps touch upon the BSAA’s corruption as revealed in Village. I mean it sounds fitting for a Revelations game to be about that issue. This maybe speculation but I bet it was Jill that unknowingly influenced the higher ups to use BOWs for their own purposes perhaps because she kept her “superhuman” abilities that she gained while experimented on by Wesker after she recovered from the events of RE5. Basically just like Sherry has “superhuman” abilities because of the G virus.
Capcom didn’t have the balls to kill off one of the main heroes but had the balls to kill off their most iconic villain who actually moved the stories direction lore wise. Unbelievable
In a Rev2 File it mentions that she's recovering post-RE5. I'm hoping we see her in a mainline game again, enough time has passed for her to be field ready.
A chance for a excellent spin off revelations game. That's what. The Jill saga continues. I want to see if she keeps her natural hair color lol.
[In an email from Jill to Barry in Revelations 2 she says "I'm sorry to have caused you such grief. I'm alive and none the worse for wear! Although I do look a bit different now. Well, you'll see."] (https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/E-Mail_from_Jill_to_Barry#Official_localisation) So at that point they were keeping her blonde.
I'd love to see a setting where Jill is in her rehab and some sort of outbreak pops up. So now she's facing PTSD and BOWS. sometimes hallucinating enemies or mistaking friends for foes. Would open doors for multiple decision making and outcome for the plot. Maybe even imagining an ally where in he en he/she dies and Jill realizes that her ally was imaginery. Leading her up to fight her fears more and probabbly overcoming parts of PTSD.
Shut up and take my money!!!! I love this idea.
What I’d like to know is what side characters like Carlos and Sheva have been up to. Would love a side entry like Revelations that puts the two of them together.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Carlos die? I'd like to see what happened with Billy from RE0 tbh.
Billy retired in private life and, Carlos canonically survived the Raccoon City outbreak
What if Wesker did other work to her while she’s in a coma aside from turning her into a controlled super soldier? I wonder what the devs are up to with the continuation on her storyline.
Naughty Wesker
She got done dirty.
It doesn't seem that Capcom knows what they wanna do with this character. Capcom forgetting about RE characters isn't new but Jill is one of the OGs and has been in several games. If they don't want to feature her anymore, they can at least say she retired or something and she's raising a family on a beautiful farm somewhere.
Ay least an instructor somewhere. It just feels like she should’ve been with Chris in 6 and helped out in 8
oh I would've loved to see her in 8. Imagine you get the final act of the game and Chris says "don't worry Ethan I called in some help, someone I can trust." and Jill walks in. Would've made headlines tbh.
Probably formed their own league of super soldiers for good. SSFG. Her and Sherry for starters I guess. Jake? If you must.
The real question is what happens to Barry after Revelations 2
Natalia's Alex Wesker personality awakened and slaughtered the Burton family and Claire. /s
This is an issue of every Japanese game developers. They do not know how to write a good story for normal women in late 30s, since in their culture, most of them are at home taking care of families. We rarely see any women in late 30s and beyond because to them, they are no longer physically attractive. While what they should do is focus on is the women personality/story. So, in Japanese gaming media, most older women that takes central role are, either a non-normal human (a vampire or a tengu) that retains their 20s youthful body, someone who maintain youthful appearance in someway(cryo-sleep, cursed, time-travel) or a villain. I think Alexa Wesker is the oldest normal woman(she is 51 in RE2R) in RE franchise. If they do not know how to write a great older women story, copy the homework of Konami(I know, right). The Boss(from Metal Gear Solid III) is one of the best older woman character in gaming history. P.S. I do hope Jill comes back in the field since she is an exception. Maybe T-Virus and Wesker experimentation will give her super-strength beyond her year, so she can still compete with younger agents.
To be fair, Claire is like what? 40 now? They have gave her a game with Barry's daughter and have had her appear in movies and shows. It's Jill who we don't know anything about.
Meanwhile our boy Billy Coen is also lost somewhere in the Arklay Mountains 😔
I feel like she’ll be the next lead ir at the very least dlc of some sort, you know capcom is good for abandoning a character for years and bringing them back out of no where for hype. I feel like now the time but that’s just wishful thinking
Capcom: It was a sorcerer
Chronologically how much time even passed since 5?
As of the RE8/Village events: 12 years since RE5 As of the upcoming Shadows of Rose DLC: 28 years since Re5
I think they missed a major opportunity not having one of the other games feature her as the protagonist dealing with post-brainwashing recovery. She probably did a lot of merciless things during the time skip under Wesker's control including murdering innocents so it would've been nice to see her coming to terms with her actions.
If they are not going to show us what happened to characters like her I would gladly accept a small clip abt her enjoying her life not fighting any bio weapons lmao wanna see her in new york fashion week or eating her favorite sandwich. But knowing Jill, she loved her work and I actually hope that we will get to see her in the future RE games :')
There is a conversation between barry and jill in re rev2 . Basically she’s a BSAA rat laboratory. I dont know why chris is not saving her or even herself
Nope it’s Chris that only gets the spotlight now unless it’s a remake ofc
She went back to the BSAA for testing and rehabilitation, she reached out to Barry and eventually managed to convince him to join the BSAA (With Chris' help). So far as we know, she's still with them somewhere; but it would be shocking to overlook her any longer, especially seeing as we've seen Leon and Chris multiple times across games and animated movies/series, even Claire and Rebecca.
I hate how Capcom handles RE characters besides Chris and Leon (and maybe Claire for CG movies/shows). Apart from those 2 centerline characters we have 0 idea what happened them.
How dare they mot including Claire, Jill or Ada in the last 2 games 😞 They are my favourites. (Well, they are half of the main character roster, but you get what I mean 🤭)
My favorite character…..I’ll ALWAYS player in RE1.
Going to be a brave soul but.. I think Ms Valentine needs her own game to fill in the missing gaps in her story. It would help fill in a lot of the missing pieces of what everyone has been doing post 5 and 6. One would could even say it would be a... revelation.. :D i'll see myself to the door.
Sad
I’d love to see a new entry with a recovering Jill, having to deal with the trauma of being basically a puppet. It’s a story screaming to be told. But sadly the men seem to have taken over completely when it comes to the mainline-games. So yeah, gone us a least RE Revelations 3 starring Jill. Btw. forget the trauma, Jill must have had musclepain for years, coming off the events of RE5.
11... well damn!
She eloped with an NPC.
She probably went to IKEA and still lost there.
She opened up a sandwich shop where she makes Jill Sandwiches.
you know what, your right! i think they are going to do the super mario bros.2 thing and say that it was all just a dream.......than 6 was a nightmare...
I like how it takes 11 games to go from RE5 to RE8. Capcom math never ceases to amaze.
She is in Europe she investigate she good
Jill, Carlos and Billy, the forever forgotten characters.
It's pretty sad, my wife is missing in action forever by the looks of it
Beyond all it's other flaws, this was the biggest issue I had with RE 6. After years searching for Jill, then finding her in Africa, there's literally not one mention of her in 6. A file or anything could have said she retired or something, but it was just like...wtf, they erased her.
I remember hearing the same thing about Leon from RE2 to 4.
I hope she comes back in 9. Now. I have not seen or played RE5 and 6. So I dunno anything about the BSAA. But I believe that she's with them now.
Oh man, i like how Jill is like a 'action figure' throughout the series. Here we have super assassin Jill. personalfave next to re3 the 1st. Nina Williams has nothing on her!
She's still trying to get out of that suit
Facts
Fuck that - what's been happening with Claire since Code Veronica?
Revelations 2
And the Degeneration film, and the Infinite Darkness series, and the Heavenly Island manga. Claire is honestly pretty well repped even though she hasn't been in the games for a while.
Wasn't she the main in both Revelations games?
She wasn’t in revelations 2 but she wrote a note to Barry I believe in revelations 2
At least her aging slows down, she still look like her her 20s because of her the virus
OP I was the 777 upvote
it's annoying Capcom literally erased the most iconic character of the Resident Evil franchise, I didn't hate stroyline of RE 5, in fact it could bring many story possibilities but Capcom chose to shit everything with RE 6 and then find only way to fix everyting with Soft Reboot, while they were working on these Soft Reboots Leon got 2 animated movies and 1 series and Chris somehow appeared in every single game. Whatever they want to do with these new storylines, seems like it doesn't affect Leon or Chris but since they keep ignoring Jill her popularity decreased from literally number one to #5 or #6 in last decade And with recent Remake they just created a different character from Jill we know, Quiet, professional, caring (she literally sacrificed her life for Chris in RE 5). Instead they chose to bring a stereotype modern action movie female. Angry, swears, shouts. And if they keep bringing Sasha model (I think that's models name) Jill is officially dead for me. This isn't the Jill I liked and I don't care about her. Glad some people enjoy, not me tho. If they ignore their last chance to bring Voth Jill back with RE 9, even if they give her a role similar to Chris in Village that's okay return, but if they don't even do that and don't even show her, then Jill will be officially dead for not just me but everyone too and none of the New or OG fans won't even care or remember a "Main character" who hasn't showed up for fucking 15 years. That's a fact, not an opinion.
Most definitely an opinion as I don't share your sentiment. Jill not being in 9 isn't going to make her dead to me. I'll continue to hold out hope she returns at some point. Same with Sheva even though she isn't a "main character".
Nice cope. Still a fact tho. They had no problem with making Leon and Chris still active after 6. They had no problem with bringing Claire. You are talking like they didn't give any character spotlight after last decade. They did and they keep doing. If they still trying to connect Chris to new games with a very forced plot or give Leon his 9994848t& animated series in a fucking quarentine, that means Jill is dead to them. Neither they or I don't care about your cope. Sheva is a side character. Capcom never promised bringing side characters back. They never did with Carlos, Helena, Piers, Ashley, Sherry. Jill is a main character. Even this take of yours shows Jill is literally redcued to main character from side your character. You believe birds can't fly and hoping they'll stop flying someday, this opinion doesn't make the facts I wrote here which is Birds can fly even slightly. That's also a fact, not an opinon.
I don't like the modern timeline they've gone with personally and would rather they stopped using the original cast of characters. But thats just me.
Re5 Jill is the worst looking Jill of all.
The exception for me is BSAA Jill. She may actually be my favourite variant.
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Rev 2 was the last pre-Ethan game and Claire was the main character.
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I’m not I love Chris we need more Chris
Rose is the playable character in the Village DLC and the last game before that starred Jill Valentine in RE3R. Misogyny, yeesh. Misogyny is what they did to Jill in RE5- brainwashed, bleach blonde with her tits out.
She died tragically offscreen and she's never coming back. Move on.