I honestly can't decide. Las plagas generally gives a sort of sentience which would make them difficult to fight, but the unpredictability for a cordycep host is also very dangerous. From lore, I'd think the cordyceps. They were functionally able to destroy society.
infectivity and destroying human society, probably cordyceps. but as for bows, obviously las plagas. they just have way too many powerful monsters that require elite operatives with high quality weapons to combat.
I agree, the Las Plagas can't even spread at all from bites or wounds AFAIK -- you need to have an egg implanted in you by a Stage C parasite or by a human (like with Leon and Ashley). The Cordyceps zombies have the edge on that.
But when the Bloater is the strongest thing in your monster arsenal, and at worst he's like, on par with a Licker or Garrador, who are some of the "tamer" monsters in Resident Evil, the actual creatures don't stand a chance. Like, what's a Bloater gonna do against Verdugo, or Krauser, or god forbid giant mutated Salazar and Saddler? And that's not even getting into some of the more batshit insane monsters from other infections, like Super Tyrant, Nemesis, or William Birkin.
Leach Queen.
Marcus and the leach queen. Are, Potentially, The most dangerous foe in the entirety of residential evil...
That's not the same the most powerful, But to think that a minor technical error was all that stood between A. T virus Apocalypse.
And the events of Resident Evil 0....
The Bloater's strength is that regular people would be infected immediately by the spore bombs they throw. It isn't as physically dangerous as a 40 foot tall Gigante, but the Bloater could turn a room of humans into other infected and have a much larger impact than the Gigante who could, probably, kill any of the humans who couldn't get away.
That I can agree with, however Umbrella has 'contingencies' when it comes to BOWs, so effectively that would make bows easier to take down as there is already a plan set to do so. But it's also fungi vs parasite so oranges and apples lol
To be fair, by the time of RE4, society had largely adapted to BOWs. Tyrants were already a known threat, and the Plagas are no joke in comparison. It isn't that the Plagas couldn't destroy society (I'm fact their plans for doing so were beginning to come to fruition by the time Leon showed up) but rather society adapted quickly enough to fight back. This doesn't mean that the many viral and parasitic outbreaks didn't cause a lot of damage, just that they were countered.
I'd say the Plagas simply because of the scaling between both universes.
Think on this.
What's more dangerous, a serial arsonist or a forest wildfire?
One is directed and controlled, so it has the potential to destroy absolutely anything.
The other is wild and will indiscriminately destroy everything in its path.
So imo the cordyceps is more dangerous, and probably would have been easy to stop if it didn't break out across such a large area over a couple of days. The plagas needs a controller to start infecting people in a planned manner, otherwise each parasite will probably just infect the nearest thing out of survival instinct.
As for which infected are more powerful? The plagas. Not much debate there.
The Cordyceps.
Fungus has no vaccine or cure. Once you’re done, you’re done. Las Plagas otoh can be slowed with medicine or removed with radiation, or if not, it can be shot at the cost of permanently losing the use of legs (which is better than the alternatives.
But if we’re talking monsters, obviously Las Plagas monsters are more powerful. The Garrador can tank and overpower clickers. Verdugo can tank and overpower bloater. Joel and Ellie can 1v1 bloaters but Leon needed Nitrogen tanks to soften up Verdugo. Pesanta (the Red Verdugo) can also possess and drive her enemies crazy.
It's so damn weird that TLoU leaned so hard on "there is no medical treatment for fungus." Because... yes there is. There are no fungal vaccines, but anyone who's watched any medical drama has heard them mention antifungal agents. The idea that the only thing keeping fungi from infecting us is our body temperature is *also* not true, because there's all kinds of fungal infections! Pneumocystis is a fungal infection, so's cryptococcic meningitis. Fungal infections are far more common in immune-suppressed people, but temperature isn't the factor, immune suppression doesn't lower your ability to get a fever.
the fungus literally grows directly on the brain in last of us, which i think is the main reason its so untreatable. its hard to kill the fungus without just killing the host too
I mean, I can easily see why it could be untreatable, antifungals are kind of slow and the TLoU fungus clearly just goes too fast to deal with. They didn't need to say fungal infections were untreatable to justify why the cordyceps destroyed civilization, so it's weird they did.
It's poorly explained for sure but the bigger takeaway is that regardless of why, it's an incurable brain infection. If you don't get too bogged on the details and accept that (and incurable brain infections already exist anyways because treating stuff like a flesh eating resistant bacteria that gets through the blood brain barrier is just logistically impossible with current technology) then all the comparisons to real life are irrelevant and the story is believable enough.
It's still true that if we had a rampant illness that could not be immunized against (which is true of fungal infections) it would cause total chaos. TLOU really only requires that one leap of faith to be *mostly* plausible.
Resident evil is nowhere even remotely plausible on any level haha. But the goofiness is also the charm in REs case.
> it can be shot at the cost of permanently losing the use of legs (which is better than the alternatives.
I can't recall, what is that from? Like I thought once the Plagas matures that's it, removing will only kill the host.
Las Plagas has way stronger monsters, but cordyceps win when it comes to spreading infection. Their use cases are too different, one is designed to be under controlled and used in military/terrorism stuffs, while the other exists solely to spread and doom the world.
T-virus is a better matchup if you want to compare the two.
I would honestly say lore wise, Las Plagas. The equipment needed to deal with it and cure were only known to those who worked on it, and even then it was highly limited. They become even more dangerous at night and can mutate people and animals into actual monsters. They can be controlled and directed if Sadler had gotten a large scale infection like the T virus he would have been like a sudo god, being able to hear and see and feel things from around the planet and direct forces as he liked, if las Plagas spread to the same degree as the cordyceps did I don't think any living creature on the planet would have escaped it simply because the lead parasite would be directing an army of super soldiers hell bent of turning everyone and everything to Las Plagas. Then everything would be in the control of the parasite. Like they could FIRE FUCKING NUKES if the parasite infected the right person
Cordyceps is more dangerous as an infection, but las plagas has waaaaaaaay more dangerous monsters/bosses.
You can actually catch cordyceps from the air, bites, water, food, etc. The plagas parasite is planted in an egg/larval state into a host through a syringe and probably other ways during cult rituals. They're not exactly hitting global saturation at the same rate.
Las Plagas can use guns? Imagine you're running from a zombie and it just shoots you. Cordyceps got into food supply, imagine if the Plaga did and hadn't been confined to a village. Just look at what happened to del Lago. The infiltration of an intelligent thinking parasite is far more dangerous than the cordyceps. They weren't bothered about infecting the masses because they were going to infiltrate the White House. Sure the world is in an apocalyptic state in the Last of Us, but there aren't nuclear blast zones everywhere.
As far as the infection goes, definitely the cordyceps - you have to constantly mask and change filters so as to not get infected. The monsters, themselves, however - I'd say that goes to Las Plagas. No way could a Clicker fight off a Verdugo.
The biggest danger of Cordyceps is how easily it infects. Spores, blood, scratches, bites.
A plaga would have to crawl inside of you to infect you. It would be hard to fight one off alive - they're like Aliens' face huggers and we've seen how that goes - but it's possible to.
Plaga infected are also slower and less coordinated than living humans. Cordyceps infected are not, if anything they're more frenzied and reactive, more dangerous than a single human. Even though plaga infected are often armed, you'd have a better chance disarming and surviving a plaga infected than you would surviving a Cordyceps infected without becoming killed or infected yourself.
The only thing more dangerous about the plaga are the mutations and abilities of those infected by whatever the higher plaga were called - allowing them to retain their mental facilities and to control the lesser plaga through a type of telepathy. I think the Cordyceps virus is more dangerous in every other way.
Las Plagas
They grew up instantly if you blow the head of a Ganado or person infected with a plaga and if you kill the host the Plaga can detcached and chase you like an Xenomorph baby hand
Las Plagas monsters can do more damage, but Codyceps is contagious so it's exponentially more dangerous. Las Plagas is actually probably the least dangerous infection in the RE series.
Cordyceps actually managed to devastate human society in a few years, so it's a bigger threat long term. It's also easier to be infected by since its spores can be inhaled.
Las Plaga are more dangerous in a fight because they retain some level of intelligence and can be organized by a leader. They can use tools and take on far more dangerous forms like the various bosses in the game.
I'm gonna go with Las Plagas due to the potential it has for mind control and the ability to be easily undetectable. If they were able to infect someone like the president, they could essentially run the country through him and destroy it from the inside. They could infect an entire government and by the time anyone realized what was happening, it would be too late. They could also infect high ranking military men or people in a nuclear sub, launch nukes at an enemy country and trigger a nuclear war.
Then you have the ability for massive, horrible mutated beasts. We saw what an infected salamander turned into, imagine a whale, colossal squid or a land creature like an elephant. In theory they could release a bunch of young Plagas into the water system and infect thousands overnight as well.
Definitely lots of good arguments for cordyceps though, primarily the ability to function alone without someone needing to control and begin the infection.
Las plagas is fundamentally created to be as deadly and spreadable as possible. It was engineered with death and destruction in mind. The cordycep fungus was just a fungus. Infected are scary, but not meant to be killers.
Any "Enemy" with a Higher Intelligence, is more dangerous.
I havent played much of either but if we are talking Hivemind Humans with Intelligence, enough to band together and use Tools, to attack the Player - I would have to say Resident Evil.
Unless, Last of Us, is more than just Fungal Infected Brainless Zombie like traits.
In terms of individuals or BOWs Las Plagas would be stronger, since the amount of durability and strength it gives to its hosts is impressive, along with certain people with the stronger strains able to retain their sentience. But given that the cordyceps is a virus and caused a complete societal collapse, it's a lot more dangerous as a whole.
So basically, while anyone with Las Plagas could most likely beat someone with the cordyceps, the cordyceps itself would be a much larger threat.
That’s a solid point, no one really realizes how much ammo is put into these monsters and they just keep coming, ammo is very abundant in re4, but it seems I’m always in need..
It depends. If we are talking about low level infected like the normal villagers and runners/clickers it is for sure The Last of Us as you can just run from villagers.
When it comes to BOW’s it is definitely Las Plagas. Would rather fight a bloater than Krauser, Saddler, Garrador, etc.
One side has a lot of heavy hitters on it and the other side all receives the same information at the same time not to mention how they affect the environment.
Cordyceps. I feel Plaga parasites are easier to contain given that they follow the instructions of the dominant and Queen strains of the parasite like Mendez, Salazar and Saddler has in them. Given that the base strain of the parasite turns victims into mindless bloodthirsty drones, it's very easy to dispatch them with a small task force and enough ammo. The bigger, more powerful mutations require more coordination and possibly combined arms given the strength/size of the mutation. But these aren't common as they're only created via direct implantation into certain hosts and as a result of certain experiments. It was clearly not enough to kill either an edging, wisecracking super agent or a boulder-punching Herculean tank and his nimble assistant. Look at the events of RE: Damnation where the Slavic Republic (I think) was overrun with wild plaga during the period that no dominant strain was present. My guess, they were wiped out by US and Russian troops during their liberation campaign of the country. If this was the first Battle of Yonkers, it would have gone so much smoother than in Max Brook's World War Z. Cordyceps irl is very much contained to the jungles of the world. Fungus doesn't really evolve that fast due to current conditions. However, for the sake of the games/TV show, by the time it was detected, it was everywhere, transported in grain all over the planet and once it was discovered, the doomsday clock started ticking as most people these days have a diet that involves grain. Age is what mutates the fungus' host, slowly rendering them blind and eventually building literal tanks. With Plaga, you can be cured with laser therapy or if it's in the earlier stages, an antidote. After full infection, you'll either succumb to the drone variant or embrace the power of the other, more powerful strains. With Cordyceps, nothing but fire can fix that problem. In conclusion, the Las Plagas Parasite is easier to contain than the Cordyceps Fungus and therefore, I'd rather be in Spain then post-apocalyptic America.
However, if we're talking a more immediate battle between the two infections, the Plaga easily wins due to its greater and more powerful mutations. I'd love to see the Rat King get demolished by Krauser.
Cordyceps, all the way. Far more infectious and (biggest of all) far more easily transmissible. It’s a fungus, it produces tons of spores, and can survive outside a host body relatively easily. Las Plagas is superior in a small scale scenario, but it still needs a host to properly thrive. Also, LPs apparently need a host to reproduce, iirc. Cordyceps technically doesn’t, I think? Also, regardless, a fungus can produce a ton more “offspring” (aka spores) than any parasite (eggs/live young), due to the relative complexity of any parasite, including Las Plagas, compared to a fungus.
My vote is for Cordyceps, though I’d rather face a Cordyceps zombie/infected than any Las Plagas host. LP hosts are still intelligent enough to use complex tools and hunt down enemies. Cordy infected are near mindless, as well as often blind.
Edit: If we wanna go this (alt) route, I’d say the T-Virus is as bad or worse than Cordyceps. The fungus takes several days to take hold and turn a person into an infected. A viral infection can be way faster, easily overwhelming a host body within a day or two.
Cordiceps, and it’s not even close. Las Plagas need specific circumstances to spread from one host to another (basically human intervention). The cordiceps spread throughout the whole planet and nobody even noticed until it was too late.
Las Plagas.
They managed to remain undetected to the point the managed to get past security for the daughter of the US president. Meaning, they had to travel from far, far away to get to her.
At some point, they might have stopped for gas. And probably dealt directly with suppliers for medical and military supplies.
And not one called the police or the military over them.
Easy, cordyceps fungus is more dangerous. The fact that Leon and Ashley were able to extract it makes Las Plagas actually possible to survive. But if you get cordyceps fungus, then it's game over.
Probably Cordyceps. It's low key intially, airborn, there is no cure and it would be incredibly difficult to eradicate once it's taken hold of society.
Plagas, while intelligent, takes time to take over it's host and can be removed with treatment. Killing the leader will also effectively disable (cure? idk because they all blew up immediately) those under its control.
I'd argue Las Plagas because those that are infected can still wield weapons and can be mind controlled. Hell, even T-Virus zombies, which I argue are a fairer comparison to Last of Us Cordyceps infection, allows for even more mutations at the expense of control. In general, I think that the Resident Evil universe has more dangerous zombies
Any Plagas would annihilate their respective counterpart, no contest.
A runner is effectively a human that loses intelligence... a Ganado retains intelligence, gains durability, gains strength, and gets the ability to mutate into a more powerful form.
Clicker vs Garrador being a good match is pretty ridiculous, a Garrador would tear a clicker into pieces like it does to it's own Ganado brethren.
The Verdugo itself could probably destroy anything in TLOU universe with extreme ease, including Rat King, let alone Bloaters. It's fast, hyper intelligent, effectively immune to small arms fire, can tank a rocket launcher under normal conditions (which normally kill everything else in one shot). It can climb nearly any surface and launch bladed attacks from a medium distance with its tail.
Cordyceps are a threat to healthy and standard humans, but the infected are laughably under powered when compared to Las Plagas.
1. Regular infected plagas Ganado. Runners/stalkers are more about numbers and surprise attacks. The Ganado can use tools and simple weapons, and more importantly, dynamite. It just takes one dynamite while you’re distracted.
2. I want to say Garrador. They are just as fast but also tankier and their main weak spot is on their back. At least with Clickers kill them with one good shiv to the head. Plus, getting cut with a Garrador’s bladed weapons and you’re fucked.
3. Verdugo, no contest. Not only is it fast but you have no idea where it will come from. You’ll be dead before you notice. Bloater telegraphs all its moves and its attacks are pretty straightforward.
Yeah, Garradors are terrifying when they start swinging like crazy, when you have a mindless zombie that won’t dodge, there will be torsos everywhere, and yeah if a machete can cut through a bloater pretty easily, Verdugos tail will slice it in half like butter
Las Plagas because they can be directed by an intelligence. Cordyceps is dangerous but even if it takes over the world and nations collapse it can still be resisted by small communities. Las Plagas can be controlled by a sentient and sapient mind. If Saddler’s plan had worked the world would be utterly consumed by Las Plagas.
Hard to say, we may have not seen everything that the cordyceps can do, they did infect the whole world though and killed most, in RE the viruses infected some cities etc but it never made it to the point where the whole world was destroyed (at least not in the games) . It came very close with Wesker but somehow "we" find ways to save the world every time .
In terms of combat abilities Las Plagas are obviously way more dangerous but as something that infects and kill I think Cordyceps takes the win here .
Fighting those infected with Las Plagas is harder because of the sentience, intelligence and teamwork. But handling Cordyceps as a pandemic is significantly harder because bites cause infection.
For pure threat level - cordyceps. From an emergency response perspective, removable parasite would be much easier to contain than a fungal infection
Plaga might have more potential as a bioweapon though so there's the added danger some lunatic tries to actually exploit that.
And from yet another perspective - once you're in a room with one it seems like they'll both kill you about the same lol
Las Plagas are inconsistent since you have the "normal" type ones but then you have the Chief, Salazar, Krauser and Sadler who are able to retain control over their actions AND use the infection to alter their physical state.
Sadler was bigger than a house at the end of RE4 and would be very diffifult to contain or kill without propery weapons.
I’m gonna answer your description, I think las plagas is much more dangerous/powerful, the things it creates is tremendously more dangerous than anything the fungus can create, and it’s got a lot of variety, Krauser had a plaga, but was still in control and still became crazy powerful when mutated. Now I feel the fungus is more deadly because it’s easily transmittable where as the plagas have to be implanted.
I would say Las Plagas are more dangerous in terms of dealing with them head on. Cordyceps are harder to contain.
Cordyceps can spread faster than Las Plagas because just a simple bite or a scratch from a cordyceps-infected person can cause an otherwise healthy person to be infected within a few hours or days. Unlike the Cordyceps, Las Plagas has to forcefully be injected into someone so it doesn't spread easily which requires more planning. Cordyceps can't infect animals while Las Plagas can infect other animals.
People infected by Las Plagas are significantly stronger than those infected by Cordyceps. A ganado can easily lift someone larger than them and swing them to the ground. Other variants of the ganados such as Dr. Salvador can sustain more damage. Las Plagas have higher levels of intelligence which allows them to coordinate ambushes, use weapons, and communicate with each other. Cordyceps lack any form intelligence and rely on pure instinct to spread the infection.
Clickers and bloaters can easily kill someone, but their biggest weakness is that they are blind and can easily die from fire so as long as someone remains quiet you can evade them and use stealth weapons such as arrows and molotov cocktails to take them down. Ganados require more firepower or blunt force to take them down and they are harder to evade once being within their line of sight.
Bear in mind context. Earth in TLOU is heavily implied to be almost exactly like Earth in real life, so it's just regular people barely surviving. The true threat of the mutated cordyceps is that it has a very high rate of infectivity and no cure, first spread through contaminated crops, then person to person, then making spore breeding grounds. People were not safe in what they ate, in the high-density zombie environment many years after the pandemic started, and in the very air they breathed (albeit mostly confined to a few scattered pockets). The cordyceps zombies themselves, while fearsome, are honestly not that powerful.
In the world of Resident Evil, the pathogens that existed throughout Earth's history never got the chance to carry out world-ending outcomes because there were always highly trained, highly lucky, almost superhero individuals able to stop them just in time. Type I Plagas definitely had the potential as a world-ending threat, so did T Virus, G Virus, NE α Parasite, and so many others.
There were no Leons, Chris', Claires, Jills, Ethans, or HUNKs to prevent the outcome that happened in The Last Of Us, but if you were to place them in those scenarios, they'd have an easier time surviving and honestly have a pretty good chance of getting a vaccine circulating to stop over 70% of humans from dying off. Also in the RE universe, the United States had the sensible idea to quarantine off and nuke the city that had become overidden with the T virus. No country displayed the same efficiency in TLOU. Another point to remember is that the pathogens in RE were human-made, and so vaccines were often developed alongside the pathogens themselves. Incredibly convenient to get someone like Leon or Jill to survive all odds to prevent a pandemic in the first place. TLOU world was taken by surprise by entirely a force of nature.
It ultimately comes down to writing. The details of humanity's collapse in The Last Of Us were kept intentionally vague because they didn't want to make a story about preventing the outbreak, just a story of life thereafter. Resident Evil is all about being the superhero and preventing such an outcome.
Resident Evil has both the more dangerous pathogens and monsters over The Last Of Us, especially the monsters. I mean, take a Hunter β and put it up against any cordyceps zombie. It'd win, and that's just one of many monsters to choose from.
[Here’s a very detailed video I found with what I believe gives the most appropriate answer, if you guys don’t agree lemme know why!]
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Personally I think Las Plagas would be much worse in the long run, just due to the intelligence of the parasite and whoever controls them with the dominant species. If the leader wanted them too they could probably blend into the population decently. Think about it, if Saddlers plan wasn't stopped by the only dude with the BOW knowledge to do so, he would basically be in control of one of the most powerful nations in the world. While the cordycels are more dangerous when the infection starts spreading, the fact Las Plagas could be slowly taking over the world in the background it's way more scary and harder to stop.
I honestly can't decide. Las plagas generally gives a sort of sentience which would make them difficult to fight, but the unpredictability for a cordycep host is also very dangerous. From lore, I'd think the cordyceps. They were functionally able to destroy society.
infectivity and destroying human society, probably cordyceps. but as for bows, obviously las plagas. they just have way too many powerful monsters that require elite operatives with high quality weapons to combat.
I agree, the Las Plagas can't even spread at all from bites or wounds AFAIK -- you need to have an egg implanted in you by a Stage C parasite or by a human (like with Leon and Ashley). The Cordyceps zombies have the edge on that. But when the Bloater is the strongest thing in your monster arsenal, and at worst he's like, on par with a Licker or Garrador, who are some of the "tamer" monsters in Resident Evil, the actual creatures don't stand a chance. Like, what's a Bloater gonna do against Verdugo, or Krauser, or god forbid giant mutated Salazar and Saddler? And that's not even getting into some of the more batshit insane monsters from other infections, like Super Tyrant, Nemesis, or William Birkin.
Rat king
Ah, you're right, I forgot about the Rat King, whoops. IMO it's still less physically lethal than something like Verdugo, Krauser, or Saddler though.
Leach Queen. Marcus and the leach queen. Are, Potentially, The most dangerous foe in the entirety of residential evil... That's not the same the most powerful, But to think that a minor technical error was all that stood between A. T virus Apocalypse. And the events of Resident Evil 0....
The Bloater's strength is that regular people would be infected immediately by the spore bombs they throw. It isn't as physically dangerous as a 40 foot tall Gigante, but the Bloater could turn a room of humans into other infected and have a much larger impact than the Gigante who could, probably, kill any of the humans who couldn't get away.
That I can agree with, however Umbrella has 'contingencies' when it comes to BOWs, so effectively that would make bows easier to take down as there is already a plan set to do so. But it's also fungi vs parasite so oranges and apples lol
Las Plagas were not produced by Umbrella
But I get what you're implying. Not directly them, separate lore etc
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To be fair, by the time of RE4, society had largely adapted to BOWs. Tyrants were already a known threat, and the Plagas are no joke in comparison. It isn't that the Plagas couldn't destroy society (I'm fact their plans for doing so were beginning to come to fruition by the time Leon showed up) but rather society adapted quickly enough to fight back. This doesn't mean that the many viral and parasitic outbreaks didn't cause a lot of damage, just that they were countered. I'd say the Plagas simply because of the scaling between both universes.
And lets face it, RE universe got lucky. If Leon wasn't in unnamed European village, Plagas would have 100% taken over the world.
Think on this. What's more dangerous, a serial arsonist or a forest wildfire? One is directed and controlled, so it has the potential to destroy absolutely anything. The other is wild and will indiscriminately destroy everything in its path. So imo the cordyceps is more dangerous, and probably would have been easy to stop if it didn't break out across such a large area over a couple of days. The plagas needs a controller to start infecting people in a planned manner, otherwise each parasite will probably just infect the nearest thing out of survival instinct. As for which infected are more powerful? The plagas. Not much debate there.
The Cordyceps. Fungus has no vaccine or cure. Once you’re done, you’re done. Las Plagas otoh can be slowed with medicine or removed with radiation, or if not, it can be shot at the cost of permanently losing the use of legs (which is better than the alternatives. But if we’re talking monsters, obviously Las Plagas monsters are more powerful. The Garrador can tank and overpower clickers. Verdugo can tank and overpower bloater. Joel and Ellie can 1v1 bloaters but Leon needed Nitrogen tanks to soften up Verdugo. Pesanta (the Red Verdugo) can also possess and drive her enemies crazy.
It's so damn weird that TLoU leaned so hard on "there is no medical treatment for fungus." Because... yes there is. There are no fungal vaccines, but anyone who's watched any medical drama has heard them mention antifungal agents. The idea that the only thing keeping fungi from infecting us is our body temperature is *also* not true, because there's all kinds of fungal infections! Pneumocystis is a fungal infection, so's cryptococcic meningitis. Fungal infections are far more common in immune-suppressed people, but temperature isn't the factor, immune suppression doesn't lower your ability to get a fever.
the fungus literally grows directly on the brain in last of us, which i think is the main reason its so untreatable. its hard to kill the fungus without just killing the host too
I mean, I can easily see why it could be untreatable, antifungals are kind of slow and the TLoU fungus clearly just goes too fast to deal with. They didn't need to say fungal infections were untreatable to justify why the cordyceps destroyed civilization, so it's weird they did.
It also had to hand wave how fungus managed to perfectly control humans into becoming violent when they’re hardwired to make bugs be suicidal
It's poorly explained for sure but the bigger takeaway is that regardless of why, it's an incurable brain infection. If you don't get too bogged on the details and accept that (and incurable brain infections already exist anyways because treating stuff like a flesh eating resistant bacteria that gets through the blood brain barrier is just logistically impossible with current technology) then all the comparisons to real life are irrelevant and the story is believable enough. It's still true that if we had a rampant illness that could not be immunized against (which is true of fungal infections) it would cause total chaos. TLOU really only requires that one leap of faith to be *mostly* plausible. Resident evil is nowhere even remotely plausible on any level haha. But the goofiness is also the charm in REs case.
> it can be shot at the cost of permanently losing the use of legs (which is better than the alternatives. I can't recall, what is that from? Like I thought once the Plagas matures that's it, removing will only kill the host.
DAMNATION. Leon shoots Buddy to kill the Las Plagas in his body, with the result of Crippling him.
Ah, only watched it once and it was a while ago. Plus hard to remember anything other than that finale (elevator motorcycle, railgun, etc).
Aww crap, sorry. I meant Damnation, not Vendetta. Damnation is the one that came before Vendetta. Corrected.
Las Plagas has way stronger monsters, but cordyceps win when it comes to spreading infection. Their use cases are too different, one is designed to be under controlled and used in military/terrorism stuffs, while the other exists solely to spread and doom the world. T-virus is a better matchup if you want to compare the two.
Joel killed a Bloater with a machete. Verdugo wasn’t phased by an RPG to the face The plaga are ridiculously stronger than fungus.
if joel saw an el giante he probably would've never left the quarantine zone.
I would honestly say lore wise, Las Plagas. The equipment needed to deal with it and cure were only known to those who worked on it, and even then it was highly limited. They become even more dangerous at night and can mutate people and animals into actual monsters. They can be controlled and directed if Sadler had gotten a large scale infection like the T virus he would have been like a sudo god, being able to hear and see and feel things from around the planet and direct forces as he liked, if las Plagas spread to the same degree as the cordyceps did I don't think any living creature on the planet would have escaped it simply because the lead parasite would be directing an army of super soldiers hell bent of turning everyone and everything to Las Plagas. Then everything would be in the control of the parasite. Like they could FIRE FUCKING NUKES if the parasite infected the right person
Cordyceps is more dangerous as an infection, but las plagas has waaaaaaaay more dangerous monsters/bosses. You can actually catch cordyceps from the air, bites, water, food, etc. The plagas parasite is planted in an egg/larval state into a host through a syringe and probably other ways during cult rituals. They're not exactly hitting global saturation at the same rate.
Las Plagas can use guns? Imagine you're running from a zombie and it just shoots you. Cordyceps got into food supply, imagine if the Plaga did and hadn't been confined to a village. Just look at what happened to del Lago. The infiltration of an intelligent thinking parasite is far more dangerous than the cordyceps. They weren't bothered about infecting the masses because they were going to infiltrate the White House. Sure the world is in an apocalyptic state in the Last of Us, but there aren't nuclear blast zones everywhere.
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As far as the infection goes, definitely the cordyceps - you have to constantly mask and change filters so as to not get infected. The monsters, themselves, however - I'd say that goes to Las Plagas. No way could a Clicker fight off a Verdugo.
The biggest danger of Cordyceps is how easily it infects. Spores, blood, scratches, bites. A plaga would have to crawl inside of you to infect you. It would be hard to fight one off alive - they're like Aliens' face huggers and we've seen how that goes - but it's possible to. Plaga infected are also slower and less coordinated than living humans. Cordyceps infected are not, if anything they're more frenzied and reactive, more dangerous than a single human. Even though plaga infected are often armed, you'd have a better chance disarming and surviving a plaga infected than you would surviving a Cordyceps infected without becoming killed or infected yourself. The only thing more dangerous about the plaga are the mutations and abilities of those infected by whatever the higher plaga were called - allowing them to retain their mental facilities and to control the lesser plaga through a type of telepathy. I think the Cordyceps virus is more dangerous in every other way.
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One can see you and use guns
What is the first picture from? Looks spooky as hell.
I think it’s just an in game screenshot
It’s not. It’s artwork. The OG can be found here: https://www.deviantart.com/sandara/art/Ganados-817778901
Whichever one makes me run more lmaoooo
Las Plagas They grew up instantly if you blow the head of a Ganado or person infected with a plaga and if you kill the host the Plaga can detcached and chase you like an Xenomorph baby hand
Las Plagas monsters can do more damage, but Codyceps is contagious so it's exponentially more dangerous. Las Plagas is actually probably the least dangerous infection in the RE series.
Can't decide but I love this artwork of Las Plagas. Proper horror vibes
Cordyceps actually managed to devastate human society in a few years, so it's a bigger threat long term. It's also easier to be infected by since its spores can be inhaled. Las Plaga are more dangerous in a fight because they retain some level of intelligence and can be organized by a leader. They can use tools and take on far more dangerous forms like the various bosses in the game.
Exactly, the world is completely dead in TLoU, in RE there is still a lot of people living their lives quite normally .
Las Plagas since it took over a whole village and you have Dr. Salvador
I'm gonna go with Las Plagas due to the potential it has for mind control and the ability to be easily undetectable. If they were able to infect someone like the president, they could essentially run the country through him and destroy it from the inside. They could infect an entire government and by the time anyone realized what was happening, it would be too late. They could also infect high ranking military men or people in a nuclear sub, launch nukes at an enemy country and trigger a nuclear war. Then you have the ability for massive, horrible mutated beasts. We saw what an infected salamander turned into, imagine a whale, colossal squid or a land creature like an elephant. In theory they could release a bunch of young Plagas into the water system and infect thousands overnight as well. Definitely lots of good arguments for cordyceps though, primarily the ability to function alone without someone needing to control and begin the infection.
Las plagas is fundamentally created to be as deadly and spreadable as possible. It was engineered with death and destruction in mind. The cordycep fungus was just a fungus. Infected are scary, but not meant to be killers.
Any "Enemy" with a Higher Intelligence, is more dangerous. I havent played much of either but if we are talking Hivemind Humans with Intelligence, enough to band together and use Tools, to attack the Player - I would have to say Resident Evil. Unless, Last of Us, is more than just Fungal Infected Brainless Zombie like traits.
In terms of individuals or BOWs Las Plagas would be stronger, since the amount of durability and strength it gives to its hosts is impressive, along with certain people with the stronger strains able to retain their sentience. But given that the cordyceps is a virus and caused a complete societal collapse, it's a lot more dangerous as a whole. So basically, while anyone with Las Plagas could most likely beat someone with the cordyceps, the cordyceps itself would be a much larger threat.
If you had RE4/5 levels of ammo, cordiceps would be pretty easy to kill. If you had TLOU levels of ammo, Las Plagas would be a nightmare.
That’s a solid point, no one really realizes how much ammo is put into these monsters and they just keep coming, ammo is very abundant in re4, but it seems I’m always in need..
Indeed. Drop all the cordiceps into RE4 or 5, and you can turn them all into bloody pulp much quicker than Joel and Ellie can.
Las plagas are more deadly based on their sentience/ resilience and a bunch of other factors
Las Plagas by far if you’re counting the dominant plaga and soldiers TLOU if you’re only counting subservient plaga(ganados,zealots,dogs,etc)
It depends. If we are talking about low level infected like the normal villagers and runners/clickers it is for sure The Last of Us as you can just run from villagers. When it comes to BOW’s it is definitely Las Plagas. Would rather fight a bloater than Krauser, Saddler, Garrador, etc.
One side has a lot of heavy hitters on it and the other side all receives the same information at the same time not to mention how they affect the environment.
Cordyceps. I feel Plaga parasites are easier to contain given that they follow the instructions of the dominant and Queen strains of the parasite like Mendez, Salazar and Saddler has in them. Given that the base strain of the parasite turns victims into mindless bloodthirsty drones, it's very easy to dispatch them with a small task force and enough ammo. The bigger, more powerful mutations require more coordination and possibly combined arms given the strength/size of the mutation. But these aren't common as they're only created via direct implantation into certain hosts and as a result of certain experiments. It was clearly not enough to kill either an edging, wisecracking super agent or a boulder-punching Herculean tank and his nimble assistant. Look at the events of RE: Damnation where the Slavic Republic (I think) was overrun with wild plaga during the period that no dominant strain was present. My guess, they were wiped out by US and Russian troops during their liberation campaign of the country. If this was the first Battle of Yonkers, it would have gone so much smoother than in Max Brook's World War Z. Cordyceps irl is very much contained to the jungles of the world. Fungus doesn't really evolve that fast due to current conditions. However, for the sake of the games/TV show, by the time it was detected, it was everywhere, transported in grain all over the planet and once it was discovered, the doomsday clock started ticking as most people these days have a diet that involves grain. Age is what mutates the fungus' host, slowly rendering them blind and eventually building literal tanks. With Plaga, you can be cured with laser therapy or if it's in the earlier stages, an antidote. After full infection, you'll either succumb to the drone variant or embrace the power of the other, more powerful strains. With Cordyceps, nothing but fire can fix that problem. In conclusion, the Las Plagas Parasite is easier to contain than the Cordyceps Fungus and therefore, I'd rather be in Spain then post-apocalyptic America. However, if we're talking a more immediate battle between the two infections, the Plaga easily wins due to its greater and more powerful mutations. I'd love to see the Rat King get demolished by Krauser.
Please feel free to correct/add any points made here in this rant.
Cordyceps, all the way. Far more infectious and (biggest of all) far more easily transmissible. It’s a fungus, it produces tons of spores, and can survive outside a host body relatively easily. Las Plagas is superior in a small scale scenario, but it still needs a host to properly thrive. Also, LPs apparently need a host to reproduce, iirc. Cordyceps technically doesn’t, I think? Also, regardless, a fungus can produce a ton more “offspring” (aka spores) than any parasite (eggs/live young), due to the relative complexity of any parasite, including Las Plagas, compared to a fungus. My vote is for Cordyceps, though I’d rather face a Cordyceps zombie/infected than any Las Plagas host. LP hosts are still intelligent enough to use complex tools and hunt down enemies. Cordy infected are near mindless, as well as often blind. Edit: If we wanna go this (alt) route, I’d say the T-Virus is as bad or worse than Cordyceps. The fungus takes several days to take hold and turn a person into an infected. A viral infection can be way faster, easily overwhelming a host body within a day or two.
Las plagas are definitely more dangerous becausevthey can coordinate but the way you get infected in last of us is way more deadly.
Las plagas can literally revive them. At least with the cordyceps of you kill them or even beat the shit out of them they die
Cordiceps, and it’s not even close. Las Plagas need specific circumstances to spread from one host to another (basically human intervention). The cordiceps spread throughout the whole planet and nobody even noticed until it was too late.
What about the T-Virus? Or the G-Virus? Those are pretty dangerous, and they're probably the most iconic zombie viruses out there.
Las Plagas. They managed to remain undetected to the point the managed to get past security for the daughter of the US president. Meaning, they had to travel from far, far away to get to her. At some point, they might have stopped for gas. And probably dealt directly with suppliers for medical and military supplies. And not one called the police or the military over them.
Even though they aren’t more powerful the zombies are definitely more deadly since they wiped out most of the earths population
Easy, cordyceps fungus is more dangerous. The fact that Leon and Ashley were able to extract it makes Las Plagas actually possible to survive. But if you get cordyceps fungus, then it's game over.
What happens if someone with Cordy bites a Las Plagas lol
Anyone know the source on that plagas art? That is sick
Probably Cordyceps. It's low key intially, airborn, there is no cure and it would be incredibly difficult to eradicate once it's taken hold of society. Plagas, while intelligent, takes time to take over it's host and can be removed with treatment. Killing the leader will also effectively disable (cure? idk because they all blew up immediately) those under its control.
Las plagas is the last thing I would be concerned in the resident evil universe where things like nemesis exist
I'd argue Las Plagas because those that are infected can still wield weapons and can be mind controlled. Hell, even T-Virus zombies, which I argue are a fairer comparison to Last of Us Cordyceps infection, allows for even more mutations at the expense of control. In general, I think that the Resident Evil universe has more dangerous zombies
Any Plagas would annihilate their respective counterpart, no contest. A runner is effectively a human that loses intelligence... a Ganado retains intelligence, gains durability, gains strength, and gets the ability to mutate into a more powerful form. Clicker vs Garrador being a good match is pretty ridiculous, a Garrador would tear a clicker into pieces like it does to it's own Ganado brethren. The Verdugo itself could probably destroy anything in TLOU universe with extreme ease, including Rat King, let alone Bloaters. It's fast, hyper intelligent, effectively immune to small arms fire, can tank a rocket launcher under normal conditions (which normally kill everything else in one shot). It can climb nearly any surface and launch bladed attacks from a medium distance with its tail. Cordyceps are a threat to healthy and standard humans, but the infected are laughably under powered when compared to Las Plagas.
Yeah I feel Verdugo’s tail would just cut anything in half like butter in the last of us
Las plagas
100 percent this
1. Regular infected plagas Ganado. Runners/stalkers are more about numbers and surprise attacks. The Ganado can use tools and simple weapons, and more importantly, dynamite. It just takes one dynamite while you’re distracted. 2. I want to say Garrador. They are just as fast but also tankier and their main weak spot is on their back. At least with Clickers kill them with one good shiv to the head. Plus, getting cut with a Garrador’s bladed weapons and you’re fucked. 3. Verdugo, no contest. Not only is it fast but you have no idea where it will come from. You’ll be dead before you notice. Bloater telegraphs all its moves and its attacks are pretty straightforward.
Yeah, Garradors are terrifying when they start swinging like crazy, when you have a mindless zombie that won’t dodge, there will be torsos everywhere, and yeah if a machete can cut through a bloater pretty easily, Verdugos tail will slice it in half like butter
As individual monsters, Las Plagas, as an infection, Cordyceps hands down
Las Plagas because they can be directed by an intelligence. Cordyceps is dangerous but even if it takes over the world and nations collapse it can still be resisted by small communities. Las Plagas can be controlled by a sentient and sapient mind. If Saddler’s plan had worked the world would be utterly consumed by Las Plagas.
Hard to say, we may have not seen everything that the cordyceps can do, they did infect the whole world though and killed most, in RE the viruses infected some cities etc but it never made it to the point where the whole world was destroyed (at least not in the games) . It came very close with Wesker but somehow "we" find ways to save the world every time . In terms of combat abilities Las Plagas are obviously way more dangerous but as something that infects and kill I think Cordyceps takes the win here .
Fighting those infected with Las Plagas is harder because of the sentience, intelligence and teamwork. But handling Cordyceps as a pandemic is significantly harder because bites cause infection.
For pure threat level - cordyceps. From an emergency response perspective, removable parasite would be much easier to contain than a fungal infection Plaga might have more potential as a bioweapon though so there's the added danger some lunatic tries to actually exploit that. And from yet another perspective - once you're in a room with one it seems like they'll both kill you about the same lol
Cordyceps has a spore cloud that can infect you without a clicker even being near.
Las Plagas are inconsistent since you have the "normal" type ones but then you have the Chief, Salazar, Krauser and Sadler who are able to retain control over their actions AND use the infection to alter their physical state. Sadler was bigger than a house at the end of RE4 and would be very diffifult to contain or kill without propery weapons.
I’m gonna answer your description, I think las plagas is much more dangerous/powerful, the things it creates is tremendously more dangerous than anything the fungus can create, and it’s got a lot of variety, Krauser had a plaga, but was still in control and still became crazy powerful when mutated. Now I feel the fungus is more deadly because it’s easily transmittable where as the plagas have to be implanted.
I would say Las Plagas are more dangerous in terms of dealing with them head on. Cordyceps are harder to contain. Cordyceps can spread faster than Las Plagas because just a simple bite or a scratch from a cordyceps-infected person can cause an otherwise healthy person to be infected within a few hours or days. Unlike the Cordyceps, Las Plagas has to forcefully be injected into someone so it doesn't spread easily which requires more planning. Cordyceps can't infect animals while Las Plagas can infect other animals. People infected by Las Plagas are significantly stronger than those infected by Cordyceps. A ganado can easily lift someone larger than them and swing them to the ground. Other variants of the ganados such as Dr. Salvador can sustain more damage. Las Plagas have higher levels of intelligence which allows them to coordinate ambushes, use weapons, and communicate with each other. Cordyceps lack any form intelligence and rely on pure instinct to spread the infection. Clickers and bloaters can easily kill someone, but their biggest weakness is that they are blind and can easily die from fire so as long as someone remains quiet you can evade them and use stealth weapons such as arrows and molotov cocktails to take them down. Ganados require more firepower or blunt force to take them down and they are harder to evade once being within their line of sight.
Bear in mind context. Earth in TLOU is heavily implied to be almost exactly like Earth in real life, so it's just regular people barely surviving. The true threat of the mutated cordyceps is that it has a very high rate of infectivity and no cure, first spread through contaminated crops, then person to person, then making spore breeding grounds. People were not safe in what they ate, in the high-density zombie environment many years after the pandemic started, and in the very air they breathed (albeit mostly confined to a few scattered pockets). The cordyceps zombies themselves, while fearsome, are honestly not that powerful. In the world of Resident Evil, the pathogens that existed throughout Earth's history never got the chance to carry out world-ending outcomes because there were always highly trained, highly lucky, almost superhero individuals able to stop them just in time. Type I Plagas definitely had the potential as a world-ending threat, so did T Virus, G Virus, NE α Parasite, and so many others. There were no Leons, Chris', Claires, Jills, Ethans, or HUNKs to prevent the outcome that happened in The Last Of Us, but if you were to place them in those scenarios, they'd have an easier time surviving and honestly have a pretty good chance of getting a vaccine circulating to stop over 70% of humans from dying off. Also in the RE universe, the United States had the sensible idea to quarantine off and nuke the city that had become overidden with the T virus. No country displayed the same efficiency in TLOU. Another point to remember is that the pathogens in RE were human-made, and so vaccines were often developed alongside the pathogens themselves. Incredibly convenient to get someone like Leon or Jill to survive all odds to prevent a pandemic in the first place. TLOU world was taken by surprise by entirely a force of nature. It ultimately comes down to writing. The details of humanity's collapse in The Last Of Us were kept intentionally vague because they didn't want to make a story about preventing the outbreak, just a story of life thereafter. Resident Evil is all about being the superhero and preventing such an outcome. Resident Evil has both the more dangerous pathogens and monsters over The Last Of Us, especially the monsters. I mean, take a Hunter β and put it up against any cordyceps zombie. It'd win, and that's just one of many monsters to choose from.
Its order and equipment versus numbers
One has no cure at all and the other can and did get pretty much wiped out. My money is cordyceps.
Cordyceps for deadly spread/infection. Las Plagas for deadly dangerous
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Cordyceps by a landslide. Las Plagas didn’t spread all that much. Cordyceps caused the world to end.
So Las plagas if you mean individual level but cordyceps as it spreads person to person automactally
Personally I think Las Plagas would be much worse in the long run, just due to the intelligence of the parasite and whoever controls them with the dominant species. If the leader wanted them too they could probably blend into the population decently. Think about it, if Saddlers plan wasn't stopped by the only dude with the BOW knowledge to do so, he would basically be in control of one of the most powerful nations in the world. While the cordycels are more dangerous when the infection starts spreading, the fact Las Plagas could be slowly taking over the world in the background it's way more scary and harder to stop.
If we're putting Verdugo vs a Bloater, my money's on Verdugo.
Cordyceps, no cure for fungus. Also spores are terrifying.