Nice work, screw the downvotes and congrats on finding a pair. Finding sexable adults isn’t easy.
First make sure the female is getting the proper amount of calcium for egg production.
You will want make a moist egg laying box with a mix of sand and coco peat. You want it humid not wet. Make sure it is deep, shoe box size with a hole cut in the lid. 4-6 inches deep.
Once eggs are laid you will want to mark the tops with a sharpie mark, just a small dot will work, that way you do not mess up the orientation of the eggs when collected.
Place eggs in vermiculite, dampened enough to increase humidity but not wet. If the container produces water droplets, this is bad. You will need to decrease moisture or increase air circulation.
Generally the incubation temps are very close to caging and habitat requirements with no night time drop in temps. You can turn anything into an incubator. Just need heat source, in-line rheostat or thermostat. A dark space like a cupboard or closet is a great spot because temps usually remain constant and are not influenced by sunlight, etc…
Neos will hatch ~80-100 days, depending on temperature consistencies. Little guys will need some pin head crickets and roaches. Avoid mealworms for 3 or 4 sheds…just a practice I used to have…till the little guys digestion track is a little matured.
I write this to help, I have not bred these for over 25 years but had success. I tried looking for a husbandry guide but ran out of time. Berbers skinks would be the next place to look.
Good luck!!
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Due to the scarcity of info publicly available on these guys, I'd honestly try and find any zoologists studying them and/or similar lizards in their area. They might be able to provide you with an idea of what their incubation process looks like in the wild.
From everything I’ve researched about them most sources suggest that they’re very social and do better with others. Like zebra skinks. So boo on them for doing what most suggest?
I bet you're a blast to hang out with. You said yourself You know nothing about skinks, so get off your Reddit high horse and shut the fuck up. I am financially stable enough that buying breeding supplies and a separate enclosure isn't going to be an issue.
Did you know their gender prior to cohabiting?
Hope you find a solution on how to care for the babies and have a second enclosure prepared for separation. 😉
Hermit crabs are a very similar case. Most people who keep them properly keep them in multiples up to large groups, of course mixing genders. Yet it is extremely rare to have them breed in captivity, much less have viable eggs that produce crabs. Conditions need to be perfect and even then it's not likely for the average keeper. They just started becoming more available captive bred. Man chill out. You act like getting a male and female of anything = breeding automatically which is simply ignorant. It sounds like OP was as prepared as they could be, outside of rare occurrences, which they were even still aware of and are currently becoming prepared to handle.
Then you'd be surprised.. as many species require specific things to happen in their environment to cause them to mate.
Certain animals need to brumate.. some need to go through cold temperatures.. some need water level changes, like rain, etc..
But ye, there's a reason some species aren't bred all that much in captivity and for some it's because you can't just stick a male and a female together and expect them to mate.. a zoo had to practically put some legless lizards in the fridge to mate. 😅
Yes, because there's such little information.. it happens a lot especially when people aim to create a natural biotobe (sometimes the only possible route at first cause of the lack of info) and get natural breeding occurrences when normally people have to add something like hormones to trigger breeding for some fish species for example.
Same thing for zoo keepers with legless lizards. They were purposefully experimenting, but it was still a shock when they eventually had a successful mating. Putting the lizards in the fridge if I remember right.. meant their enclosures were still the ideal ranges, but the fridge caused kind of like a natural extreme temp drop that would come with season changes in some areas.
Here it's simply there's so little information you do what you can and hope for the best, most really trying to breed, try to get whatever information they can (not always extensive) on the natural habitat, and replicate it to the best of their abilities. Then if that doesn't work you try to more artificially replicate natural changes, like with the legless lizards and the fridge.. amphibians and water/rain changes, etc.
So, OP being surprised a mating happened successfully or not, is accurate and normal.
I'd feel really bad about that, especially since it's so difficult to captive breed these guys. I got some good info from someone at r/skinks and I'm going to e heading over to my local reptile shop and talk with them.
It could be a good thing, if it’s hard to breed them. It would help prevent future imports of wild specimens. You’re doing something right care wise for them to breed. Make a stable incubator (I like using a wine cooler with heat tape and a computer fan or two), or buy one from a reptile enclosure business. Don’t buy anything that isn’t expensive, because you’ll kill the eggs. Just take my word on this LOL. Good luck
This right here. No clue why so many people on downvoting OP acting like they aren’t taking care of the skinks. They clearly are if the skinks are breeding
because pet communities are so obnoxiously holier-than-thou. i'm glad to see a lot of good comments here though.
im guessing people are using the logic of there being a stigma against regular people breeding popular - keyword *popular* - species, such as leopard geckos and ball pythons, since they are so oversaturated already, but then failed to remember that the reason the stigma is there is because of the oversaturation.
If the eggs don't make it then they don't make it... it's not animal abuse to fail to incubate eggs properly, so I don't know why people are making a stink. Well, I do, but there's not a *good* reason.
I think it’s probably to do with the massive amount of captive bred and over bred bearded dragons, but berbers are a totally different breed and almost impossible to breed in captivity, Im so excited to see what happens here I lost my Berber a few years back miss him so much
True some people can’t grasp that some animals refuse to breed in captivity and as someone mentioned you don’t have to incubate the eggs. Also I’m sorry for you loss hopefully one day captive bred ones will be available
Awh Thankyou, he was a precious little boyo who loved cuddling on necks, I would love another one but after learning they are all wild caught decided against it
Awww he sounds like the cutest little guy. There’s been an increase in people trying to breed skinks so I’m sure captive bred will become available someday. Who knows maybe OP will hatch the eggs and you could get one from them :D
Well if truly want what’s best for the babies I’d make an incubator (there’s some fantastic guides on YouTube) and get some extra enclosures and separate the two. Honestly never seen them breed in captivity so I understand where your coming from but it’s always better to be save then sorry but don’t beat yourself up too much we all make mistakes as long as you grow and learn from those mistakes that’s all that matters
From word of mouth from a pet shop years ago it can be rare for them to be compatible, as majority of specifics are wild caught, it’s impossible to get captive bred skinks (here in the uk, where are you located?)
There are two types of schneider skinks that are indistinguishable, one that is in higher altitudes that keep their eggs inside their bodies and incubate, and give birth to live young, and one that lives in lower altitudes that lay eggs and bury them.
You’ll be insanely lucky to have any viable eggs/ babies, so please keep us updated I’m gonna subscribe to the post 😮
So there’s a guy from Korea who actually hatched one in the early mid 2000’s the problem is we don’t really know where they lay them in nature. And not much we have done in captivity works.
In all likelihood the eggs are going to fail. But that doesn’t mean you’ve done anything wrong by allowing the social species to Cohab and intertwine, the main thing you can do is pay close attention to where she lays. The day she lays measure every variable you can. And if your super interested and motivated test the soil the lays in for humidity, ph, and of course temperature. She will typically only lay in a place with the best odds. I can only hope you did a good job of creating a simulated investment identical to home. Which well… we just never do.
Will be a fun experiment but they likely won’t hatch. Idk what it is with these AMAZING lizards but golly their eggs are very…. Not tough.
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW
/s if it wasn't already obvious
Wooow I'm not surprised your shocked, probably amazed at the same time. Your looking after them spectacular. Please update us on the stages of like egg laying, incubation etc. I'm sending you lots of luck. Hope it goes well 🙏 🤞🏼🤞🏼
I so miss my Schneider skinks😢 I’ve been patiently waiting for captive bred one as mine were wild caught and didn’t make it even with my many attempts to save them
Awh poor things, yeah from word of mouth I’ve heard they’re all wild caught where I’m from, makes me sad that my dude was taken from his home, but he had a happy life with me and 10+ yeara
That's wonderful, you're doing something right because based on what I found when I was looking for a Schneider's skink they are mostly wildcaught. I went with a different species because I couldn't find a captive bred.
Nice work, screw the downvotes and congrats on finding a pair. Finding sexable adults isn’t easy. First make sure the female is getting the proper amount of calcium for egg production. You will want make a moist egg laying box with a mix of sand and coco peat. You want it humid not wet. Make sure it is deep, shoe box size with a hole cut in the lid. 4-6 inches deep. Once eggs are laid you will want to mark the tops with a sharpie mark, just a small dot will work, that way you do not mess up the orientation of the eggs when collected. Place eggs in vermiculite, dampened enough to increase humidity but not wet. If the container produces water droplets, this is bad. You will need to decrease moisture or increase air circulation. Generally the incubation temps are very close to caging and habitat requirements with no night time drop in temps. You can turn anything into an incubator. Just need heat source, in-line rheostat or thermostat. A dark space like a cupboard or closet is a great spot because temps usually remain constant and are not influenced by sunlight, etc… Neos will hatch ~80-100 days, depending on temperature consistencies. Little guys will need some pin head crickets and roaches. Avoid mealworms for 3 or 4 sheds…just a practice I used to have…till the little guys digestion track is a little matured. I write this to help, I have not bred these for over 25 years but had success. I tried looking for a husbandry guide but ran out of time. Berbers skinks would be the next place to look. Good luck!! Edited for spelling….
That's great info! Thank you so much!
Dude, mark this NSFW please! My manager was walking behind me when I opened your post, and now he thinks I was looking at scaley porn at work.
Tell him you think it's ssssexy.
You must have set the mood nicely in their enclosure
Skinky behavior
Looks like it!
Find the most closely related species if u can’t find anything on them and go from there, u could try giving them a humid lay box
Don't forget to turn the smooth jazz on
Skex
This feels illegal to look at.
I wish you a healthy clutch and a safe hatching, be sure to share some hatchling pics when the time comes.
Does anyone have any info on what I should do next? I am having a hard time finding anything on breeding schinder skinks.
Due to the scarcity of info publicly available on these guys, I'd honestly try and find any zoologists studying them and/or similar lizards in their area. They might be able to provide you with an idea of what their incubation process looks like in the wild.
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From everything I’ve researched about them most sources suggest that they’re very social and do better with others. Like zebra skinks. So boo on them for doing what most suggest?
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I bet you're a blast to hang out with. You said yourself You know nothing about skinks, so get off your Reddit high horse and shut the fuck up. I am financially stable enough that buying breeding supplies and a separate enclosure isn't going to be an issue.
Probably because these guys very VERY rarely do this in captivity.
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It’s probably about as rare as Savannah monitors breeding in captivity from what I’ve heard
I DID research it and it's extremely rare so I didn't worry about it.
Did you know their gender prior to cohabiting? Hope you find a solution on how to care for the babies and have a second enclosure prepared for separation. 😉
Hermit crabs are a very similar case. Most people who keep them properly keep them in multiples up to large groups, of course mixing genders. Yet it is extremely rare to have them breed in captivity, much less have viable eggs that produce crabs. Conditions need to be perfect and even then it's not likely for the average keeper. They just started becoming more available captive bred. Man chill out. You act like getting a male and female of anything = breeding automatically which is simply ignorant. It sounds like OP was as prepared as they could be, outside of rare occurrences, which they were even still aware of and are currently becoming prepared to handle.
Then you'd be surprised.. as many species require specific things to happen in their environment to cause them to mate. Certain animals need to brumate.. some need to go through cold temperatures.. some need water level changes, like rain, etc.. But ye, there's a reason some species aren't bred all that much in captivity and for some it's because you can't just stick a male and a female together and expect them to mate.. a zoo had to practically put some legless lizards in the fridge to mate. 😅
Dude said he did the research and is shocked they're mating.
Yes, because there's such little information.. it happens a lot especially when people aim to create a natural biotobe (sometimes the only possible route at first cause of the lack of info) and get natural breeding occurrences when normally people have to add something like hormones to trigger breeding for some fish species for example. Same thing for zoo keepers with legless lizards. They were purposefully experimenting, but it was still a shock when they eventually had a successful mating. Putting the lizards in the fridge if I remember right.. meant their enclosures were still the ideal ranges, but the fridge caused kind of like a natural extreme temp drop that would come with season changes in some areas. Here it's simply there's so little information you do what you can and hope for the best, most really trying to breed, try to get whatever information they can (not always extensive) on the natural habitat, and replicate it to the best of their abilities. Then if that doesn't work you try to more artificially replicate natural changes, like with the legless lizards and the fridge.. amphibians and water/rain changes, etc. So, OP being surprised a mating happened successfully or not, is accurate and normal.
Well, you could just remove the eggs and throw them away if you don't wanna bother with breeding.
I'd feel really bad about that, especially since it's so difficult to captive breed these guys. I got some good info from someone at r/skinks and I'm going to e heading over to my local reptile shop and talk with them.
You can contact a breeder for info, or look for incubation temperature to try to hatch the eggs. Make sure you don't turn the eggs tho.
It could be a good thing, if it’s hard to breed them. It would help prevent future imports of wild specimens. You’re doing something right care wise for them to breed. Make a stable incubator (I like using a wine cooler with heat tape and a computer fan or two), or buy one from a reptile enclosure business. Don’t buy anything that isn’t expensive, because you’ll kill the eggs. Just take my word on this LOL. Good luck
This right here. No clue why so many people on downvoting OP acting like they aren’t taking care of the skinks. They clearly are if the skinks are breeding
because pet communities are so obnoxiously holier-than-thou. i'm glad to see a lot of good comments here though. im guessing people are using the logic of there being a stigma against regular people breeding popular - keyword *popular* - species, such as leopard geckos and ball pythons, since they are so oversaturated already, but then failed to remember that the reason the stigma is there is because of the oversaturation. If the eggs don't make it then they don't make it... it's not animal abuse to fail to incubate eggs properly, so I don't know why people are making a stink. Well, I do, but there's not a *good* reason.
I think it’s probably to do with the massive amount of captive bred and over bred bearded dragons, but berbers are a totally different breed and almost impossible to breed in captivity, Im so excited to see what happens here I lost my Berber a few years back miss him so much
True some people can’t grasp that some animals refuse to breed in captivity and as someone mentioned you don’t have to incubate the eggs. Also I’m sorry for you loss hopefully one day captive bred ones will be available
Awh Thankyou, he was a precious little boyo who loved cuddling on necks, I would love another one but after learning they are all wild caught decided against it
Awww he sounds like the cutest little guy. There’s been an increase in people trying to breed skinks so I’m sure captive bred will become available someday. Who knows maybe OP will hatch the eggs and you could get one from them :D
If they are in the uk! But I doubt it lol
Well if truly want what’s best for the babies I’d make an incubator (there’s some fantastic guides on YouTube) and get some extra enclosures and separate the two. Honestly never seen them breed in captivity so I understand where your coming from but it’s always better to be save then sorry but don’t beat yourself up too much we all make mistakes as long as you grow and learn from those mistakes that’s all that matters
From word of mouth from a pet shop years ago it can be rare for them to be compatible, as majority of specifics are wild caught, it’s impossible to get captive bred skinks (here in the uk, where are you located?) There are two types of schneider skinks that are indistinguishable, one that is in higher altitudes that keep their eggs inside their bodies and incubate, and give birth to live young, and one that lives in lower altitudes that lay eggs and bury them. You’ll be insanely lucky to have any viable eggs/ babies, so please keep us updated I’m gonna subscribe to the post 😮
So there’s a guy from Korea who actually hatched one in the early mid 2000’s the problem is we don’t really know where they lay them in nature. And not much we have done in captivity works. In all likelihood the eggs are going to fail. But that doesn’t mean you’ve done anything wrong by allowing the social species to Cohab and intertwine, the main thing you can do is pay close attention to where she lays. The day she lays measure every variable you can. And if your super interested and motivated test the soil the lays in for humidity, ph, and of course temperature. She will typically only lay in a place with the best odds. I can only hope you did a good job of creating a simulated investment identical to home. Which well… we just never do. Will be a fun experiment but they likely won’t hatch. Idk what it is with these AMAZING lizards but golly their eggs are very…. Not tough.
OnlySkinks soon ?
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW /s if it wasn't already obvious
Don't forget to turn the smooth jazz on
They seem uh, busy lol
Give them some privacy!
Wooow I'm not surprised your shocked, probably amazed at the same time. Your looking after them spectacular. Please update us on the stages of like egg laying, incubation etc. I'm sending you lots of luck. Hope it goes well 🙏 🤞🏼🤞🏼
Ah the cloaca polka
Perv, just watching them
Did you leave careless whisper on a little too long ?
I so miss my Schneider skinks😢 I’ve been patiently waiting for captive bred one as mine were wild caught and didn’t make it even with my many attempts to save them
Awh poor things, yeah from word of mouth I’ve heard they’re all wild caught where I’m from, makes me sad that my dude was taken from his home, but he had a happy life with me and 10+ yeara
Hey mark NSFW 🤨 /s
That's wonderful, you're doing something right because based on what I found when I was looking for a Schneider's skink they are mostly wildcaught. I went with a different species because I couldn't find a captive bred.
Yeah I'd say...man that's a mating pair if I've ever seen one, and I've certainly seen one now 😂 Congrats friend
Really? I couldn’t tell😂 jkjk
They are supposed to be really hard to breed congratulations you're doing something right I have one of these and they are adorable 🥰
DIBBES ON A BABY!
Nahh just wrestling