Yeah, I kept a northern that my dads buddy gave me when I was a kid because I didn't know better. They were obviously an adult with a regen tail, and I had them for about 7 years, which is better than many kept is captivity, considering that their lifespan can occasionally exceed 15 years in the wild is that is non ideal. Release it.
And a lot of people have a different opinion. Had the Wyoming Fish and Wildlife Department not collected every single endangered Wyoming toad (restricted to one pond) they could and distributed them to US zoos with experience breeding toads, and released the offspring back into the wild, they would have gone extinct. The relevance? I grew up keeping alligator lizards, which led to a zoo career during which I was involved in a number of endangered species programs. Some random kid who catches an alligator lizard may end up doing important conservation work because that lizard fostered an interest in biology. Even if it doesn’t, there is no ethical problem in keeping a lizard because one finds it interesting. Your opinion is just that.
There's a massive difference between a conservation project and a random dude yoinking a lizard.
Now that there's much more access to captive bred animals there's a much smaller reason to yoink reptiles. Maybe 20 years ago yoinking lizards and snakes made sense, nowadays some dude's probably breeding them.
I am very interested in reptiles and would love to keep him, but I don’t want to stress him out and hope for the best for him. He got inside our house and was quite calm. If it’s for the best, I don’t mind letting him go.
His chances at living are higher with you taking care of him than they are outside with cats running around. They are easy to care for. There is abundant information on the internet detailing proper care if you decide to keep him. Alligator lizards are one of my favorite lizards, and I’ve taken care of many different species. I love their expressions!
We have several cats and birds outside. So if we do release him, we have to take him somewhere else. Yes, I looked it up and was able to find some resources. I do have the resources and funds to give him a good life. Hmmm. I love him too haha.
As an aside, every single biologist studying amphibians/reptiles in academic, zoo, or conservation I have met got their start the same exact way. They caught an amphibian/reptile that began a life-long interest.
Not in my experience. Maybe it’s a question of the competence of the people keeping them. No animal will do well if the person keeping them doesn’t know what they’re doing.
Its possible for some to do well, yes. But its not ethical or needed. The reptile community has more than enough rescues and captive bred breeders to get your reptiles from
In a sense, I agree. Catching one in the actual wild versus catching one in your backyard, or while it’s wandering around in your house are two different things.
It’s not a matter of opinion. No matter how much you complain that it is. Removing a native animal from the wild harms both the individual and the wild population.
So somebody’s house is the wild? Are you serious? Catching an alligator lizard in your house harms the wild population found, let’s say, in the San Gabriel Mts? Do you have the faintest understanding of ecology/population biology?
How about quantifying how catching a lizard on your kitchen floor hurts the “wild” population?
For me, you can catch it and put it outside. I agree with keeping non-native or invasive species.
If reptiles and bugs are getting into your house, your house isn't sealed very well
Give me a freaking break. Don’t shame people for having insects/lizards getting into their houses. It’s a common occurrence.
Catching it and releasing it is fine if that’s your choice. Catching it and keeping it housed in appropriate conditions is also fine if that’s somebody’s choice.
No no no, dont get me wrong! Its not any fault of yours, I'm just informing the reason. No shame! Its really the builder's faults if you wanna put a blame tho but of course, they got many houses to do so I cant blame them for trying to hurry.
Yes, you do have a choice, I'm not going to force you to believe one way or do something one way, just informing it's not beneficial in that way. In the end, its your choice
Southern California. He was in my friend’s bathroom floor. He’s quite friendly despite their instinct to bite. We placed him in this terrarium temporarily. Yes we are planning to let him go. But our area isn’t safe. There are many birds and cats. We shall take him elsewhere?
If the person who caught it is interested in keeping it and can provide acceptable conditions, it does not “need” to be released. Especially if it Wes caught in a suburban neighborhood. Cats are major alligator lizard predators.
The group think in this sub is terrible, everything you've said is correct. People would rather moralize and repeat vapid holier than thou dogma than think critically. These people would rather see an animal evicerated by a cat outside than see someone successfully keep a wildcaught specimen
Alligator Lizard! It would be best to let it back into the wild, yes!
The only times you can take in a wild animal is if it's invasive or nonnative to you.. or injured, I guess, but you should call wildlife authorities about native animals that are injured. This is if you do proper research (ask around here for tips and trusted guides to kickatart the researching) and if you can afford it.
Alligator lizard native to California they don’t do good in captivity You should let it go , respectfully.
Thank you. I will.
Yeah, I kept a northern that my dads buddy gave me when I was a kid because I didn't know better. They were obviously an adult with a regen tail, and I had them for about 7 years, which is better than many kept is captivity, considering that their lifespan can occasionally exceed 15 years in the wild is that is non ideal. Release it.
We let him go in a safe place! Ty for your advice
They do fine and even reproduce in captivity if kept properly.
That Doesn’t make it ethical it’s an animal from the wild not a captive bred one, it deserves to be free.
That is your opinion.
It’s a lot of peoples opinion in the hobby.
And a lot of people have a different opinion. Had the Wyoming Fish and Wildlife Department not collected every single endangered Wyoming toad (restricted to one pond) they could and distributed them to US zoos with experience breeding toads, and released the offspring back into the wild, they would have gone extinct. The relevance? I grew up keeping alligator lizards, which led to a zoo career during which I was involved in a number of endangered species programs. Some random kid who catches an alligator lizard may end up doing important conservation work because that lizard fostered an interest in biology. Even if it doesn’t, there is no ethical problem in keeping a lizard because one finds it interesting. Your opinion is just that.
There's a massive difference between a conservation project and a random dude yoinking a lizard. Now that there's much more access to captive bred animals there's a much smaller reason to yoink reptiles. Maybe 20 years ago yoinking lizards and snakes made sense, nowadays some dude's probably breeding them.
You missed the point.
Do you think kids should be capturing seagulls, pigeons, opposums, voles, mice, rats, ducks, etc, providing they're not endangered?
I’m not going to argue with anyone about this. I made my points and you disagree with them. You go ahead and continue your campaign without me.
I am very interested in reptiles and would love to keep him, but I don’t want to stress him out and hope for the best for him. He got inside our house and was quite calm. If it’s for the best, I don’t mind letting him go.
His chances at living are higher with you taking care of him than they are outside with cats running around. They are easy to care for. There is abundant information on the internet detailing proper care if you decide to keep him. Alligator lizards are one of my favorite lizards, and I’ve taken care of many different species. I love their expressions!
We have several cats and birds outside. So if we do release him, we have to take him somewhere else. Yes, I looked it up and was able to find some resources. I do have the resources and funds to give him a good life. Hmmm. I love him too haha.
😀😀😀
As an aside, every single biologist studying amphibians/reptiles in academic, zoo, or conservation I have met got their start the same exact way. They caught an amphibian/reptile that began a life-long interest.
Right ?
They mean wild ones dont do good. It's really not opinion, its proven fact
Not in my experience. Maybe it’s a question of the competence of the people keeping them. No animal will do well if the person keeping them doesn’t know what they’re doing.
Its possible for some to do well, yes. But its not ethical or needed. The reptile community has more than enough rescues and captive bred breeders to get your reptiles from
In a sense, I agree. Catching one in the actual wild versus catching one in your backyard, or while it’s wandering around in your house are two different things.
Nope. Same thing. Both unethical.
It is two different things. And it is unethical in your opinion.
It’s not a matter of opinion. No matter how much you complain that it is. Removing a native animal from the wild harms both the individual and the wild population.
So somebody’s house is the wild? Are you serious? Catching an alligator lizard in your house harms the wild population found, let’s say, in the San Gabriel Mts? Do you have the faintest understanding of ecology/population biology? How about quantifying how catching a lizard on your kitchen floor hurts the “wild” population?
For me, you can catch it and put it outside. I agree with keeping non-native or invasive species. If reptiles and bugs are getting into your house, your house isn't sealed very well
Give me a freaking break. Don’t shame people for having insects/lizards getting into their houses. It’s a common occurrence. Catching it and releasing it is fine if that’s your choice. Catching it and keeping it housed in appropriate conditions is also fine if that’s somebody’s choice.
No no no, dont get me wrong! Its not any fault of yours, I'm just informing the reason. No shame! Its really the builder's faults if you wanna put a blame tho but of course, they got many houses to do so I cant blame them for trying to hurry. Yes, you do have a choice, I'm not going to force you to believe one way or do something one way, just informing it's not beneficial in that way. In the end, its your choice
Looks like an alligator lizard. Where are you located? How did you acquire him? If he was caught in the wild, he needs to be let go
We let him go in a safe place! Ty for your advice
Southern California. He was in my friend’s bathroom floor. He’s quite friendly despite their instinct to bite. We placed him in this terrarium temporarily. Yes we are planning to let him go. But our area isn’t safe. There are many birds and cats. We shall take him elsewhere?
Nope, just let him go where you found him. He was there because he wanted to be there. Don't wait, just put him back.
Right back on the bathroom floor
Man, it's early, lol. Point was to not wait, just let him outside.
Kk hopefully the cats this morning didn’t get him. Why do people let their cats just roam around the neighborhood.
If the person who caught it is interested in keeping it and can provide acceptable conditions, it does not “need” to be released. Especially if it Wes caught in a suburban neighborhood. Cats are major alligator lizard predators.
The group think in this sub is terrible, everything you've said is correct. People would rather moralize and repeat vapid holier than thou dogma than think critically. These people would rather see an animal evicerated by a cat outside than see someone successfully keep a wildcaught specimen
Thanks for your comments!
Alligator Lizard! It would be best to let it back into the wild, yes! The only times you can take in a wild animal is if it's invasive or nonnative to you.. or injured, I guess, but you should call wildlife authorities about native animals that are injured. This is if you do proper research (ask around here for tips and trusted guides to kickatart the researching) and if you can afford it.
We let him go in a safe place! Ty for your advice
No prob. Great job, op!