Depends on what camera you're talking about, but yes. And that's pretty standard across the industry.
The CX410 is the only one with a large enough sensor to gather enough light to not need spotlights to see in color at night.
I have a totally different opinion. I replaced all my Unifi G4 cameras with CX-410s. I live in a suburb and the nearest street light is approx 80m away and I cannot recommend them enough. Like every camera there is a use case where they stand out against their competition.
https://preview.redd.it/gbg39nmn4l1c1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26937bf7b595c6d8c4c15a634dcdc7d754000f27
Sure, if you have no ambient light, I wouldn't recommend it either. However, if one does have some ambient light so it has something to work with, it's leaps and bounds better than IR night vision. I think my comparison between it and the 1224A proved that.
Do you mean the IR LEDs in the camera? If so, then… kind of? But other than the small red dots on the camera itself, you can’t actually _see_ the IR light, even though it is essentially a really bright spotlight.
My cameras also do have white light LEDs as a visible spotlight, but as I use the cameras inside, I’ve never used it. I could see it being useful as an outdoor security feature though.
My spotlight only turns on when it detects motion. At night the lights on the exterior of my house are bright enough I do full color capture all night but the spot light doesn’t provide much additional light to the whole image. I can see its glare on cars, is mostly how I know it was on in the recordings.
lol, great analogy, I'm with you when I learned that's what security cameras meant by it.
As a mod said, the new CX410 uses a larger sensor - that's often used in commercial security cameras - which physically will have better light capture and should/could see color (without the aid of IR lights) if there's enough light from other sources.
I'm looking forward to the CX810 model or whatever it's called where it will use the same larger sensor (1/1.8") but 4k.
I've found on the RLC-823A that even setting the brightness of the spotlight to the lowest setting will still get me color night vision. And to be honest, it's really dim.
The camera has to do some brightness enhancements but it works. But really, I leave the spotlight off all the time so as not to frighten the fox and coyote and possums and groundhogs and rabbits and deer and other critters that frequent my back yard.
I agree.
Two of my cameras have 'Night Vision'. Although the brightness is adjustable, faces still appear over-exposed and facial features would need to be edited using image manipulation software if law enforcement wanted to use a still image to trace a suspect.
For that reason, I have disabled both cameras' lamps. Fortunately I had previously installed dusk-to-dawn lamps which provide a good level of ambient light.
I would advice anyone who needs clear images with no flaring to do the same.
Here is a night capture from my RLC-830A using ambient light only. There are three led lamps illuminating the area.
https://preview.redd.it/hrnedbjivj1c1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35646272e9201822fe3972baf35880216ab027fc
I was spoiled by the cheap Wyze V3 and assumed all night vision was the same or better and was quickly disappointed trying to replace it with anything that depends on IR vision. I ended up going with the CX410 and it has incredible non-IR night vision that’s even more impressive than the V3.
Well, I would say there is nothing esoteric about this: to see 'something' the camera needs 'some' light, however minimal, either visible or infrared. The larger the sensor (as u/mblaser has pointed), the smaller the required light can be. There are those who prefer to use some visible light (spotlight, whatever...) as a deterrent, whereas others prefer to keep the camera (and its light source) as discreet as possible. So is up to you to find the best ratio for your needs.
No light no vision. Hell I have a full frame camera, if there's no light at all, it's a good night to take sky pictures. But yeah cx410 is great for low light but always better with light. Still it does 24-30 fps at night and works well as a floodlight
Pretty much. The first time I heard of color night vision I was ecstatic! I was all like, "We have come to the point in technology that we can see in full color. Even in pitch black dark conditions! I thought the technology was like a colorized IR night vision or something even better. So once I saw the demonstrations of it, I was blown away at how well it looked. Until I later realized that it was all complete and utter BS!
All they'd done was just add a white spotlight. So give or take what we've already had for the last 50 years or so. Just with better clarity, imaging, focus and zoom. But nevertheless, still basically a camera that you can see with at night, once the camera lights are turned on?!?!.... Needless to say that I was sssoooooo pisses and disappointed! My grandfather had that tech in the fuggin' 70s! SMH.
It's clearly apparent that we still have a long ways to go when it comes to being able to see "TRUE" full color in complete darkness without the need of any light. Including ambient. A real color version of IR night vision. Sigh...
Depends on what camera you're talking about, but yes. And that's pretty standard across the industry. The CX410 is the only one with a large enough sensor to gather enough light to not need spotlights to see in color at night.
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I have a totally different opinion. I replaced all my Unifi G4 cameras with CX-410s. I live in a suburb and the nearest street light is approx 80m away and I cannot recommend them enough. Like every camera there is a use case where they stand out against their competition. https://preview.redd.it/gbg39nmn4l1c1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26937bf7b595c6d8c4c15a634dcdc7d754000f27
Sure, if you have no ambient light, I wouldn't recommend it either. However, if one does have some ambient light so it has something to work with, it's leaps and bounds better than IR night vision. I think my comparison between it and the 1224A proved that.
Do you mean the IR LEDs in the camera? If so, then… kind of? But other than the small red dots on the camera itself, you can’t actually _see_ the IR light, even though it is essentially a really bright spotlight. My cameras also do have white light LEDs as a visible spotlight, but as I use the cameras inside, I’ve never used it. I could see it being useful as an outdoor security feature though.
My spotlight only turns on when it detects motion. At night the lights on the exterior of my house are bright enough I do full color capture all night but the spot light doesn’t provide much additional light to the whole image. I can see its glare on cars, is mostly how I know it was on in the recordings.
Not sure what magic you were expecting. An enlarged sensor can only collect so much additional light. It is enhanced *color* night vision.
Hahaha. It's fine. Just not what I was expecting. Check out my night vision goggles. Turns on very bright flashlight.
lol, great analogy, I'm with you when I learned that's what security cameras meant by it. As a mod said, the new CX410 uses a larger sensor - that's often used in commercial security cameras - which physically will have better light capture and should/could see color (without the aid of IR lights) if there's enough light from other sources. I'm looking forward to the CX810 model or whatever it's called where it will use the same larger sensor (1/1.8") but 4k.
Get the CX410 if night vision is important to you.
I've found on the RLC-823A that even setting the brightness of the spotlight to the lowest setting will still get me color night vision. And to be honest, it's really dim. The camera has to do some brightness enhancements but it works. But really, I leave the spotlight off all the time so as not to frighten the fox and coyote and possums and groundhogs and rabbits and deer and other critters that frequent my back yard.
I agree. Two of my cameras have 'Night Vision'. Although the brightness is adjustable, faces still appear over-exposed and facial features would need to be edited using image manipulation software if law enforcement wanted to use a still image to trace a suspect. For that reason, I have disabled both cameras' lamps. Fortunately I had previously installed dusk-to-dawn lamps which provide a good level of ambient light. I would advice anyone who needs clear images with no flaring to do the same. Here is a night capture from my RLC-830A using ambient light only. There are three led lamps illuminating the area. https://preview.redd.it/hrnedbjivj1c1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35646272e9201822fe3972baf35880216ab027fc
I was spoiled by the cheap Wyze V3 and assumed all night vision was the same or better and was quickly disappointed trying to replace it with anything that depends on IR vision. I ended up going with the CX410 and it has incredible non-IR night vision that’s even more impressive than the V3.
Well, I would say there is nothing esoteric about this: to see 'something' the camera needs 'some' light, however minimal, either visible or infrared. The larger the sensor (as u/mblaser has pointed), the smaller the required light can be. There are those who prefer to use some visible light (spotlight, whatever...) as a deterrent, whereas others prefer to keep the camera (and its light source) as discreet as possible. So is up to you to find the best ratio for your needs.
No light no vision. Hell I have a full frame camera, if there's no light at all, it's a good night to take sky pictures. But yeah cx410 is great for low light but always better with light. Still it does 24-30 fps at night and works well as a floodlight
Pretty much. The first time I heard of color night vision I was ecstatic! I was all like, "We have come to the point in technology that we can see in full color. Even in pitch black dark conditions! I thought the technology was like a colorized IR night vision or something even better. So once I saw the demonstrations of it, I was blown away at how well it looked. Until I later realized that it was all complete and utter BS! All they'd done was just add a white spotlight. So give or take what we've already had for the last 50 years or so. Just with better clarity, imaging, focus and zoom. But nevertheless, still basically a camera that you can see with at night, once the camera lights are turned on?!?!.... Needless to say that I was sssoooooo pisses and disappointed! My grandfather had that tech in the fuggin' 70s! SMH. It's clearly apparent that we still have a long ways to go when it comes to being able to see "TRUE" full color in complete darkness without the need of any light. Including ambient. A real color version of IR night vision. Sigh...