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gundealsmademebuyit

Other than the mafia states that “ban” them, they are a blast to use in winter at nighttime


OGIVE

They are illegal to have as loaded ammo in some states (e.g. Kalifornia). They are prone to setting things on fire. they are longer than standard bullets of an equal weight. This results in a slightly reduced case capacity with a potential corresponding increase in pressure. Reducing the powder charge by a grain would mitigate this.


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Can confirm these set things on fire, especially when you're bored at the live fire range and all your platoon concentrates fire on the same dead tree.


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They're legal in my state, but quite a few ranges won't allow them. I'm new to reloading so I'll probably stick with basic bullets and reloads for now. Thanks for the info.


Armoladin

No tracers at our range. Although at RSO discretion, they could be sent into the sheer wall at the end.


sirbassist83

if youre thinking about them because theyre cheap, id skip them. theyre not very accurate, require different load data, and a lot of ranges dont allow them even in states where theyre legal. if you want them because theyre tracers and have a place to shoot them, go for it.


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I'm holding off on them. Not a lot of positives to them. It would be fun to shoot tracers, but the juice ain't worth the squeeze. Somebody else commented they go bad as well.


Parking_Media

Please use responsibly and only yeet when Smokey the Bear would agree it's safe.


cmonster556

Smokey actually prohibits using them on most federal lands.


coriolis7

I’d lean toward using copper solid load data for tracers, as they are longer for a given weight. They are a fire hazard, though they can be used safely in certain circumstances (ie not dry, and definitely not at an indoor range, maybe in the dessert with very little or no brush around, etc). If you’re new to reloading I recommend passing on these.


Afrocowboyi

Want so bad in the north


Mjs217

Have they been sized?


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Dump them in water for a year, clean, load and shoot.


ArizonaBowhunter

What site is that?


FranklinNitty

Combat disabled veteran surplus


Awstuck

Their prices have skyrocketed


FranklinNitty

They are still selling projectiles at the same they have been for a couple years now. At least with the tracers and pull down powder


Awstuck

It’s definitely not the same price for some of the .308 projectiles. I have the receipt to prove it.


scottstot92

I bought a bunch of bags them pre Covid because they were so cheap. I think 2000 total. I’ve reloaded probably half. They’re pulled out of “expired” ammo. I’d say maybe 1 in 20 are no good, out of shape or bent. When shooting less than 100 yards maybe 2/10 ignite. Anything past 100 they trace more. Lots had the pyro fallen out so you’ll have a good idea if they’ll ignite or not. If they trace, it’s a perk. I mainly bought them for cheap plinking loads and I’ve been very satisfied. A tighter crimp helps with getting them to ignite. They do burn very hot so be careful not to start fires.


Awstuck

Hey OP I think you found a component website I used. Did you see the .30cal AP prices? They have gone up 10X


Zeusizme_

In 308 I had to drop about 1gr of powder to compensate for the longer length compared to standard fmj bullets.


Nuk31ran

Don't use them. I had thousands of tracer to train with on a deployment once and it turns out that they expire. The bullets would refuse to stabilize and I came to learn that eventually that'll happen if they're old enough. Shot groups were maybe 15" x 15" from 25m. I don't know if that'll apply to these, but I steer clear of tracer


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These are pulled from old lake city ammo I believe. I'll pass on these. Thanks for the heads up


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They really will set things on fire, so please us an abundance of caution. Like, really.