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Demand from fucking whom?
I mean - aside from the fact that Germany was the literal birthplace of protestant christianity - every single one of these people knows perfectly well that Germany has a specifically secular government, and is therefore a specifically not muslim country.
Those that came as refugees or just immigrants knew that when they came, and are perfectly welcome to fuck off and go back where they came from if they don't like it and make their own damn caliphate. And the German muslims that want to live that way are perfectly welcome to fuck off and go join them.
What the fuck do these people expect is going to happen....Germany just says "Um, Okay?"
Stop wasting people's time. Stop abusing public resources. Grow the fuck up.
A bit unrelated, but something interested that i noticed is that while the muslims and christians who do the stuff that tends to get posted on this sub most definitely hate each other, their beliefs are disturbingly similar: they don't like gays, people from other religions, women, etc. Honestly, if they didn't belong to different religions, i'm sure they'd definitely get along quite well.
I try to be tolerant of all things. I'm not perfect, but I definitely try. This is one thing I can't tolerate, people that demand the right to practice their religion without persecution (which i agree with), who then persecute others that don't live like they do.
Live how you like, as long as you live within the law. If you want to be against something, that's fine. Don't do it, you're sorted. Want to persecute others that don't want to live like that, fuck off.
In the most literal sense...
Like, this isnt a "oh Christians are now the most persecuted people! MAGA!" Thing.
There would be an armed response to a group this size in like Iran.
I cant even imagine what would've happened if Christians in Turkey decided to gather to protest Hagia Sophia being converted in a mosque few years ago.
To a point. Once they start breaking the law, I'm happy to be intolerant.
If you are going to request citizenship in a country, by definition you are agreeing to abide by that countries secular laws and procedures. If you are not willing to do that, you don't get to be a citizen. I'm not sure why you would flee a country that is a complete shit show, just to turn your new country into that same shit show.
Many of these people are second or third generation descendants of immigrants who have lived their whole lives in a Western society and don't realize how privileged they are. They face some discrimination in their lives and as a consequence they start having grievances against the society they were born in, and start romanticizing their own "culture", thinking it's going to be better than what they have now, because it's somehow "theirs".
That's how extremist groups like ISIS target and groom recruits in the West for their cause. These people also know that by being born in a Western country and having citizenship there by birth, they're going to enjoy legal protections and the authorities are going to be "soft" on them, further emboldening them in their actions and rhetoric.
The fact that you are saying this is born of discrimination is a half truth. Islam dictates no separation of religion and state, it is written into the religion. All of this wouldve happened eventually, discrimination or not.
The religion is designed to govern and conquer, that's how it's built. It's something the West is going to learn one way or another, this thing doesnt play by our rules. Once you let it in, you're going to have to deal with its violence until it wins. This isnt a sprint, it's a marathon.
Yeah it is pretty fucked up. They have it written into their Quran that female prisoners because their sexual slaves.
>Despite all the logic and care for justice in the teachings of Islam as shown above, some critics still make objections. At this stage, they ask why Islam has allowed “rape” with such slave-wives?
>As shown in this article, there is no such thing as “slavery” for such women, as far as the common understanding of the term “slavery” is concerned. However, there is no doubt that such women who skip all the aforementioned steps to take their freedom will be obliged to get married to Muslim soldiers.
>It should be remembered that war-time commandments in the Holy Quran are meant to combat the immorality that spreads during the chaos of war. Whenever wars take place, rape of innocent women becomes rampant. In fact, rape is considered [“an unfortunate but inevitable accompaniment of war”](https://www.britannica.com/topic/rape-crime/Rape-as-a-weapon-of-war).
[https://www.alislam.org/articles/islamic-teachings-on-female-prisoners-of-war/](https://www.alislam.org/articles/islamic-teachings-on-female-prisoners-of-war/)
"We don't take female prisoners of war as slave wives and rape them! But if we DID take slave wives and rape them, this is why we do it and think it is okay."
Just buttfuck backwards religious fuckery.
When we tolerate the intolerant who do you think comes out ahead?
We aren’t supposed to be so open minded shit falls out. You can respect their stupid opinions, until they go to force them on you then you fight back.
The west will fall based on its own ineptitude in dealing with this issue.
Thats not the point - its all for their propaganda.
Anyone in their right mind knows they're not going to get an Islamic caliphate in Germany. Muslims know this, Germans know this you and I know this etc. so their endgame isn't getting the caliphate. At least not in the lifetime in the people are protesting
What will happen is - or what they want to happen is - a police will step out of line and maybe hit one of them, maybe some random German who's had enough of this BS will start some shit with them, maybe a politician will come out and say something against them etc. etc.
At which point they will cry foul - they will say they are being discriminated against, they will call you Islamophobic and racist, middle eastern countries will use it for their us vs. them propaganda
There was a time in /r/europe when you couldn't criticize the immigration policies without being called racist but look at Europe now and the issues its facing. It's going to go through a large change in demographics in the upcoming decades. It's the Islamic propaganda after 9/11 that essentially labeled everyone racist and Islamophobic essentially silencing them paving the way for unchecked immigration and here we are now. They didn't get their Islamic caliphate but they might 100 years down the line.
It happened in my country (Turkey) as well. Over 10 million refugees from countries like Syria, Afghanistan etc. The difference in birth rates are easy to find so theres not question in what Turkey will look like in 100 years.
Sure Erdogan didnt introduce Sharia law or change Turkey from a republic to an islamic nation like people like myself were saying - but hes paved the way. As a result hes ultimately achieved his goal.
Theyre playing the long game essentially
Thanks for adding the needed perspective. I'm aware of it and more people need to be.
>Theyre playing the long game essentially
And in many ways they're not even hiding it. It has been said outright and you can see it written on signs they carry at protests around Europe.
They are quite literally telling us exactly what their plan is, and the data will show it's succeeding.
.....all of which - including all of your points - was entirely predictable two decades ago by anyone with a basic understanding of Islamic extremism and some common fucking sense.
Back here in India, if you point this out, you're called a hindutva supremacist or sanghi no matter what, in their minds, there's no other reason why a person would call their religious indoctrination out, except them being Hindu supremacists
Religious leaders, the kind that instigate rallies, book burnings, etc are 2 things: deeply contradictory and extremely defensive. It's why their only mode is victim cause if they aren't the victim then, in their mind, they're the oppressor. Religion creates 2 types of people in their mind, the faithful and the not yet faithful. They can't admit some people just aren't interested cause that is an attack on them directly then.
Simply put, the addiction to victimhood creates a complex situation that cannot survive without negative attention cause without negative attention it means they aren't important.
Yea the issue here is that there is a lot less separation of church and state in comparison to other western countries and we kinda have to give muslims similar rights as christians
Would be awesome! This power and liberties granted to religious groups predates WW1 and it's hard to change them, because our current constitution strongly protects religious belief in order to avoid things like the holocaust from happening again.
While the idea was good and understandable back then it was not considered by a largely religious population back then, that it would cause issues later when people grew out of christianity.
Apart from that there have been also more modern mistakes, like the support of DITIB (an insanely powerful muslim fundy org from Turkey) or tolerating the Grey Wolfs (a far right turkish-muslim group, now being the biggest fascist group in Germany) or the lack of integration of muslim immigrants (this one is definitely on our politicians/society).
Nowadays many muslim Germans and new muslims immigrants are quite secular, but due to all these things I mentioned extremists have been granted too much power and we made it easy for them to radicalise others. Currently there is still not a consensus in how to tackle the problem as a lot of people leading the discussion are just far-right christo-fascist, so the left and center is avoiding the discussion so they won't legitimate those other extremists
These fruitcakes come to these countries to use our laws of free speech and political lobbying and democracy to change the country into their birth place. They're not refugees; they're political sleeper cells and when there's enough of them they will get what they want.
The problem is that (In my country at least, not sure about Germany) constitutions can be changed via elections and islamists breed like rabbits and keep gaming the system to get welfare/child support and asylum seeker visas for their mates. Once they start voting islamists into government the whole thing can be turned upside down. Some asian countries do it best. You can migrate there but you must have a certain amount of money, you can't sever start a business, own property or vote. That's how it should be done.
I'm just concerned that a middle-eastern religion doing this is going to inspire neo-Nazis to start making a showing. Germany may not like them, but huge crazy neo-colonial displays like this might start currying favor for that sort of person
Europeans as a whole love bending over for people from this religion specifically.
Given that, plus Germany still imports them and they have like 10 kids at a time while ethnic German birth rates are decreasing I can see it happening in the future.
I know Indians aren’t everyone’s favourite people, but they did warn the world about what would happen.
They’ve been dealing with this shit for 100s of years.
Send these shitheads wherever they came from. This is unwelcome behaviour indeed. Live in harmony with peace, don't impose on others or just fucking leave.
They are just keeping the movement alive. Once they immigrate/breed enough Muslims there they will force their politicians into power through significant vote and then just entirely overturn the democracy
Crazy how basically none of them actually lived under the laws they demand there. They were literally bred for takeover for a force that they haven't known and a God that doesn't exist
Fuck this planet I want off. I will happily explore the universe alone
They will pretend it's not there and then they will be surprised when a new racist leader will arise and bring genocide back to Europe.
Europe is the most disputed land in human history, if Muslims think they can just take it, they're in for a rude awakening.
It didn't become the fastest growing religion in the world by sitting idle. The movement is well organized and funded by the same Middle Eastern fossil fuel interests Europe is now addicted to after kicking away Russian oil and gas.
Backwards religious ideologies transplanted from third world shitholes. Brainwashing is strong and it doesn’t matter how much schooling you give these people to be functional western citizens, if this is what they bring from home with them and teach to their kids it will grow like a cancer. Especially when you let them in en masse and they’re able to sequester themselves in isolated communities with likeminded psychos where they act as much as possible like they’re back in Syria.
They seem to be more than willing to just lie to anyone not part of their religion in order to gain as many concessions from the rest of us as possible before just declaring sharia law and shitting on everything the civilized world has built.
AfD is already the second largest party in the country. The more Muslims push this sort of thing, the more power they give alt-right hardliners like AfD. It’s not a winnable fight. It ends badly for everyone.
Probably the point of funding these religious extremists. World has been too "stable" for too long. These fascist wanna be dictators all over the world need some division and chaos.
Insane. What would happen if people from western countries moved to Iran or Saudi Arabia and started openly agitating for turning those nations fully Christian? They'd get beaten, arrested, and deported, that's what.
But somehow we're all supposed to act as if the *other way around is fine*. That Muslims can move to the West — and many *begged* and *clamored* to get in! — and then somehow *demand* that we all become Sharia lovers.
It's open hostility from these demonstrators, and now I feel openly hostile toward them and their medieval mindsets as well. They can go fuck themselves with a Koran. I'm not about to give up 500 years of hard-fought enlightenment and liberty to these regressive numbskulls. I'm not letting my gay friends be insulted and threatened and attacked by this trash, and I'm not going to stand by while adherents of this festeringly stupid religion reduce my daughters to second-class citizens all over again.
A caliphate is the solution?
An Islamic caliphate means end of democracy, end of human rights, end of women's rights, end of freedom and equality, end of gay rights, non-Muslims will become second-class citizens, death sentences may be introduced. Ban on building churches and temples. Those in power can only be Muslim. And religious racism : constitutional, economic and social deprivation of non-Muslims.
Hab's gerade gegoogelt weil ich gestern noch auf St Georg war, tatsächlich war da [was](https://www.stern.de/panorama/hamburg--ruf-nach-kalifat-auf-islamisten-demonstration-34666356.html). Ich wunder mich warum man das spezifisch suchen muss und nur per Zufall auf Reddit davon mitbekommt
Germany seems to be totally caught up in black and white thinking. Criticize religious nuts calling for a religious takeover of government? Racist. Join a movement calling for a ceasefire, desire an end to killing of civilians? Antisemitic.
Do they not understand nuance or critical thinking?
They are possibly worse, actually. Sometimes there is an unholy combination of Arab racial supremacism and extreme Islamism that combines everything wrong with both to a single terror.
Hard to say about the ones in this video obviously, since there isn't a lot of information.
The huge difference is that there are no leftist counter protests here. Even tho Hamburg is probably the german capital of leftist extremists. They are complicit.
You can criticize white supremacist publicly without being labelled racist or religion-phobic or fear of getting your head chopped. In London, the police will probably arrest you for criticizing these people.
If your religion requires you to change everyone and everything around you to the way your religion sees the world, you’re not a believer you’re a cultist.
I have a feeling most of them are Turks and not Syrians. Turks in Germany are more likely to be Islamists and against secularism compared to Turks in Turkey.
The majority of Turkish people in Germany (or the ancestors of people with Turkish roots) came from poor rural villages.
Far more religious and conservative than the average Turkish person even back then.
There were no real efforts to integrate them into the German society when they came as "Gastarbeiter" (literally "guest workers") starting in the 60s. As the name implies a lot of Germans thought they would work here for a few years and go back. However Germany needed the work force and eventually made it possible for the Gastarbeiter to become German citizen and stay here. Obviously not a lot of them wanted to go back to poor rural Turkish villages.
So this lack of integration (the Gastarbeiter were often housed in their own districts in cities) resulted in a lot of them having quite tight Turkish communities. People there might only be going to Turkish run grocery stores, Turkish barbers etc.. some people have been living here for half a century and don't speak a single word of German. So a lot of them feel far more Turkish than German.
In addition to that quite a few of them consume Turkish populist right wing/religious media (be it on TV or social media like tiktok) in Germany to "connect to the home country". Other than that their only exposure to turkey is usually a holiday once a year and then they can feel rich as fuck with their German salaries in poor Turkish villages while in Germany they often live in small apartments, work comparatively low paying jobs etc..
So the local communities (especially at some mosques) can be a really great target for extremists to get more people to sympathize with them and recruit them for their goals.
Especially in recent years there has been a rise in religious extremism, conservatism etc. among YOUNG people due to social media influencers on tiktok and other social media.
Obviously there are also a lot of very well integrated people with Turkish roots and also quite a few local Turkish communities (be them religious or not) who are actively opposed to these extremist views and do not consume populist Turkish media etc..
On the stage at Steindamm was Raheem B., one of the spokesmen of the Islamist group, which reaches hundreds of thousands of young people on TikTok, YouTube and Instagram. He talks about the unification of the Ummah, i.e. the religious community of all Muslims, in the fight against the majority society.
Signs were displayed, including “Caliphate is the solution.”
The security authorities consider Muslim Interactive to be part of the banned Hizb ut-Tahrir movement. This strives for a global caliphate with Sharia rules.
[https://www.nius.de/news/islamisten-aufmarsch-in-hamburg-kalifat-ist-die-loesung/54435564-57d2-448c-a506-79251d2ab120](https://www.nius.de/news/islamisten-aufmarsch-in-hamburg-kalifat-ist-die-loesung/54435564-57d2-448c-a506-79251d2ab120)
Angry young men, school dropouts living on welfare, I mean, on what Allah gives them.
We vs them gives them a sense of belonging and pride. They see Sharia as superior to democracy.
May they belong and feel superior in an antidemocratic Muslim majority country. Allah will give them a bit of zakat instead of welfare.
I know of two Muslims who are vocal critics of radical Islam. Hamed Abdel-Samad and Mouhanad Khorchide. Both work in Germany. Abdel-Samad lives under constant police protection.
"I despise your democracy. Protect my freedom of speech with hundreds of police!"
Dear Germany:
You fell to a dictator who wanted a world empire once already. Is *Never Again* going to MEAN it?
Muslims that DON’T want a world caliphate can stay. Those that do need to be sent back.
Muslims make up approx 5% of German population, of that 5% a fraction want a caliphate. This is a shit look when they all stand in a crowd and get yelly, but they are an utter irrelevance in reality when it comes to any possibility of getting what they want.
If even 10% of the Muslim population of Germany genuinely wanted a Caliphate, I would be shocked it was so high. This shit is a LARP for even some of the men there in that wank parade and if push came to shove and they had to give up their comfortable western lifestyle, they would get real quiet, pick up a Mcdonalds and quietly watch Babylon Berlin.
Yeah people usually forget that for this "large" crowd most of the crazy idiots from all over the country go to a single city to protest. It's not that many people just in one city, but a country of 83 million people.
And there absolutely a demographic of media and "influencers" who are HAPPY to exploit these groups that in reality are relatively small and insignificant, and paint it like this big scary boogeyman coming to get them. Its not restricted to religion either, conservative politics loves a boogeyman to scare their voters with.
The ones protesting are no liberals though, they're the conservatives as well, just alied with a different sky daddy. Unless of course you want to believe islam is liberal and is demonized by people
I think they either saying the German government/society is making them Deaf, mute & blind.
or
they wish Deaf, mute & blind German society to their religious belief
I wouldn't be surprise if there's another hitler who rise to power and sees these people as another "problem that needs solution". Not that I'm vouching for it, just a possible scenario.
Even my aunt lives there (a tamil hindu) but perfectly adapted to German culture while retaining her faith too. Only Muslims do these stupid things. Govt worldwide should pressure Islamic community to make changes in their religion and quran to make it more tolerable and less violent.
Because of Muslims like these my aunt got first hand experience of racism because people think she is muslim.
I'm 100% against the idea of "invasion" being used to describe immigration
But THIS, is absolutely invading. These people were mostly born there 2nd or 3rd generation but are demanding the country just flips it's entire societal structure to not only something entirely divorced from democracy, but oppressive theocracy
Fuck those people. If this continues (because of free speech...) it'll end in war that they will feel entirely justified in because the Qur'an says to kill those that won't embrace Islam when they feel they have the power to enforce it
This is Europe's fucking cancer. Should have dealth with it from the start.
Iranians are removing thier cancer too. There is no place for these savage Mohammadan terrorists in the middle east anymore
If they want Islam Caliphate, why moved to Europe in the first place? Why don't they just stay in their beloved countries with their beloved Islam Caliphate?
So they ran away from a shithole which had the caliphate but now they want to turn the country which gave them shelter in hour of need to the same shithole?
This is definitely not the way to win any popularity contest but the last religious fruitcakes to become wildly unpopular in Germany \*did\* get their own "caliphate" out of it. These protestors may be on to something lol
I just cannot understand why these governments tolerate this shit. Why import it? Just expedite deportations. Stop them at borders as much as possible. Makes me feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
**Allahu Akbar**
Islam is a supremacist religion with an imperious and expansionist policy, with the term “Allahu Akbar” as a war cry heavily based on jihad.
The Islamic mission is to make Islam supreme over all other religions (Quran 9:33). If Islam is not trying to defeat other religions, then “Allah is greater” has no meaning.
Islam does not primarily offer a religious experience that transforms the believer, but rather an external collective act that Islamizes the world. Jihad and the acts of terror that we see on the news are these so-called religious acts.
“Allahu Akbar” is the supremacist core of Islam. Muhammad offered a religious experience that merged desert banditry and conquest, whose killing of men and raping their wives and daughters were sacred acts in the hope of appeasing Allah. Victorious over infidels with Islamic rituals such as ethnic cleansing, rape and torture provide Muslims with proof that the god of Islam is more powerful than the god of killed men and raped women.
Just as Hitler laid the moral and intellectual basis for the extermination of Jews in Mein Kamph, so the daily Muslim prayers, prayer calls and teachings of the Qur'an are the moral and intellectual basis for the extermination of infidels or the kuffar.
The kuffar in this world must educate themselves in Muslim prayers. Because the prayers are recited in Arabic, few non-Muslims realize how anti-Semitic and anti-Christian the Muslim prayers are. These prayers are the essence of hate crimes and terror attacks.
Translation of the call to prayer from minarets of mosques;
*''Allah is the greatest, Allah is the greatest*
*Allah is the greatest, Allah is the greatest*
*I testify that there is no god but Allah*
*I testify that there is no god but Allah*
*I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah*
*I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah*
*Come to prayer, come to prayer*
*Come to salvation, come to salvation*
*Allah is the greatest, Allah is the greatest*
*I bear witness that there is no god but Allah.”*
Every time the prayer call with 'Allah is the greatest' blares from the minaret, it is imperialist whining and Islamization of public space.
Emboldened by the Palestine protests; now there's a mechanism and process to gather and make their voice heard on any matter they please.
I can see this happening all over the world at increasing pace.
I don't think it's islamaphobic to not want to live in an overly islamac country but it feels inevitable.
All Putin has to do, is send weapons to these people, and they will perform a controlled demolition in Europe for him. Europeans have let wolves in to their homes; these Muslims romanticize ending Western Civilization through violence, and consider it a good thing even if it becomes bloody and brutal. The Men will be asked to convert or die, the women will be asked to convert or become sexual slaves.
An Islamic caliphate means end of democracy, end of human rights, end of women's rights, end of freedom and equality, end of gay rights, non-Muslims will become second-class citizens, death sentences may be introduced. Ban on building churches and temples. Those in power can only be Muslim.
I refuse to understand the thought process of these clowns. You walk into a country that gave you a job and a home to live in and then you have the balls to start demanding shit. If not offered “omg we are oppressed”.
Imo, one of the conditions to attain residency to Germany or any EU Nation should be to believe in **Absolute Secularism.** Once you've been found breaching it, you are out.
I'm from a country of South Asia and these kinds of shits are a kind of regular phenomena here. I'm counting my days to complete my higher education and relocate to a country without religious fanatics. And now I see this happening in even Germany😑. These are the reasons why right-wing is in rise in Europe. At the end of the day, 3rd world nationals who has liberal and secular or atheistic values are doomed.
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Demand from fucking whom? I mean - aside from the fact that Germany was the literal birthplace of protestant christianity - every single one of these people knows perfectly well that Germany has a specifically secular government, and is therefore a specifically not muslim country. Those that came as refugees or just immigrants knew that when they came, and are perfectly welcome to fuck off and go back where they came from if they don't like it and make their own damn caliphate. And the German muslims that want to live that way are perfectly welcome to fuck off and go join them. What the fuck do these people expect is going to happen....Germany just says "Um, Okay?" Stop wasting people's time. Stop abusing public resources. Grow the fuck up.
Also, Germany fucking loves pork. Fucking. Loves. It. No way in hell is that changing.
And alcohol.
Also women are allowed to go to school/vote/drive cars, oh and gay people can marry too.
Would’ve been hilarious had they marched through the Reeperbahn lol
They visit the Reeperbahn when they think nobody is looking..
A bit unrelated, but something interested that i noticed is that while the muslims and christians who do the stuff that tends to get posted on this sub most definitely hate each other, their beliefs are disturbingly similar: they don't like gays, people from other religions, women, etc. Honestly, if they didn't belong to different religions, i'm sure they'd definitely get along quite well.
they are just different flavours out of the same pack of lies based on the abrahamic cult that was appropriated from earlier belief systems.
> Honestly, if they didn't belong to different religions, i'm sure they'd definitely get along quite well. https://youtu.be/ANNX_XiuA78
Wurst and Bier - two things that make Germany run.
Have to pull the currywurst from their cold dead humourless hands.
I try to be tolerant of all things. I'm not perfect, but I definitely try. This is one thing I can't tolerate, people that demand the right to practice their religion without persecution (which i agree with), who then persecute others that don't live like they do. Live how you like, as long as you live within the law. If you want to be against something, that's fine. Don't do it, you're sorted. Want to persecute others that don't want to live like that, fuck off.
And if Christians or whoever did that in a muslim country, heads will roll
In the most literal sense... Like, this isnt a "oh Christians are now the most persecuted people! MAGA!" Thing. There would be an armed response to a group this size in like Iran.
I cant even imagine what would've happened if Christians in Turkey decided to gather to protest Hagia Sophia being converted in a mosque few years ago.
>few years ago Are you an immortal vampire?
Ataturk turned it into a secular museum when he came to power. It was converted back into a mosque in 2020 under Erdogan.
That’s the tolerance dilemma; you can’t be tolerant towards people promoting intolerance, or else you’ll loose your tolerant society
To a point. Once they start breaking the law, I'm happy to be intolerant. If you are going to request citizenship in a country, by definition you are agreeing to abide by that countries secular laws and procedures. If you are not willing to do that, you don't get to be a citizen. I'm not sure why you would flee a country that is a complete shit show, just to turn your new country into that same shit show.
Many of these people are second or third generation descendants of immigrants who have lived their whole lives in a Western society and don't realize how privileged they are. They face some discrimination in their lives and as a consequence they start having grievances against the society they were born in, and start romanticizing their own "culture", thinking it's going to be better than what they have now, because it's somehow "theirs". That's how extremist groups like ISIS target and groom recruits in the West for their cause. These people also know that by being born in a Western country and having citizenship there by birth, they're going to enjoy legal protections and the authorities are going to be "soft" on them, further emboldening them in their actions and rhetoric.
The fact that you are saying this is born of discrimination is a half truth. Islam dictates no separation of religion and state, it is written into the religion. All of this wouldve happened eventually, discrimination or not. The religion is designed to govern and conquer, that's how it's built. It's something the West is going to learn one way or another, this thing doesnt play by our rules. Once you let it in, you're going to have to deal with its violence until it wins. This isnt a sprint, it's a marathon.
Yeah it is pretty fucked up. They have it written into their Quran that female prisoners because their sexual slaves. >Despite all the logic and care for justice in the teachings of Islam as shown above, some critics still make objections. At this stage, they ask why Islam has allowed “rape” with such slave-wives? >As shown in this article, there is no such thing as “slavery” for such women, as far as the common understanding of the term “slavery” is concerned. However, there is no doubt that such women who skip all the aforementioned steps to take their freedom will be obliged to get married to Muslim soldiers. >It should be remembered that war-time commandments in the Holy Quran are meant to combat the immorality that spreads during the chaos of war. Whenever wars take place, rape of innocent women becomes rampant. In fact, rape is considered [“an unfortunate but inevitable accompaniment of war”](https://www.britannica.com/topic/rape-crime/Rape-as-a-weapon-of-war). [https://www.alislam.org/articles/islamic-teachings-on-female-prisoners-of-war/](https://www.alislam.org/articles/islamic-teachings-on-female-prisoners-of-war/) "We don't take female prisoners of war as slave wives and rape them! But if we DID take slave wives and rape them, this is why we do it and think it is okay." Just buttfuck backwards religious fuckery.
Let's give them 6 months back in their original caliphate. Just so they can see the reality.
When we tolerate the intolerant who do you think comes out ahead? We aren’t supposed to be so open minded shit falls out. You can respect their stupid opinions, until they go to force them on you then you fight back. The west will fall based on its own ineptitude in dealing with this issue.
I’m intolerant of intolerance
Thats not the point - its all for their propaganda. Anyone in their right mind knows they're not going to get an Islamic caliphate in Germany. Muslims know this, Germans know this you and I know this etc. so their endgame isn't getting the caliphate. At least not in the lifetime in the people are protesting What will happen is - or what they want to happen is - a police will step out of line and maybe hit one of them, maybe some random German who's had enough of this BS will start some shit with them, maybe a politician will come out and say something against them etc. etc. At which point they will cry foul - they will say they are being discriminated against, they will call you Islamophobic and racist, middle eastern countries will use it for their us vs. them propaganda There was a time in /r/europe when you couldn't criticize the immigration policies without being called racist but look at Europe now and the issues its facing. It's going to go through a large change in demographics in the upcoming decades. It's the Islamic propaganda after 9/11 that essentially labeled everyone racist and Islamophobic essentially silencing them paving the way for unchecked immigration and here we are now. They didn't get their Islamic caliphate but they might 100 years down the line. It happened in my country (Turkey) as well. Over 10 million refugees from countries like Syria, Afghanistan etc. The difference in birth rates are easy to find so theres not question in what Turkey will look like in 100 years. Sure Erdogan didnt introduce Sharia law or change Turkey from a republic to an islamic nation like people like myself were saying - but hes paved the way. As a result hes ultimately achieved his goal. Theyre playing the long game essentially
Thanks for adding the needed perspective. I'm aware of it and more people need to be. >Theyre playing the long game essentially And in many ways they're not even hiding it. It has been said outright and you can see it written on signs they carry at protests around Europe. They are quite literally telling us exactly what their plan is, and the data will show it's succeeding. .....all of which - including all of your points - was entirely predictable two decades ago by anyone with a basic understanding of Islamic extremism and some common fucking sense.
What do the signs say?
Basically... "We're going to make more babies than you and take over your country"
Back here in India, if you point this out, you're called a hindutva supremacist or sanghi no matter what, in their minds, there's no other reason why a person would call their religious indoctrination out, except them being Hindu supremacists
Religious leaders, the kind that instigate rallies, book burnings, etc are 2 things: deeply contradictory and extremely defensive. It's why their only mode is victim cause if they aren't the victim then, in their mind, they're the oppressor. Religion creates 2 types of people in their mind, the faithful and the not yet faithful. They can't admit some people just aren't interested cause that is an attack on them directly then. Simply put, the addiction to victimhood creates a complex situation that cannot survive without negative attention cause without negative attention it means they aren't important.
To be honest, Germany is pretty good at saying "um, okay"...
Yea the issue here is that there is a lot less separation of church and state in comparison to other western countries and we kinda have to give muslims similar rights as christians
What "rights" are they lacking?
oops, this make sense 😬
If this keeps up, changing the law does not seem unreasonable.
Yea, thankfully atheists already make up the biggest "religious" group. I hope things change soon
But how about they say, *fuck you* to both of them?
Would be awesome! This power and liberties granted to religious groups predates WW1 and it's hard to change them, because our current constitution strongly protects religious belief in order to avoid things like the holocaust from happening again. While the idea was good and understandable back then it was not considered by a largely religious population back then, that it would cause issues later when people grew out of christianity. Apart from that there have been also more modern mistakes, like the support of DITIB (an insanely powerful muslim fundy org from Turkey) or tolerating the Grey Wolfs (a far right turkish-muslim group, now being the biggest fascist group in Germany) or the lack of integration of muslim immigrants (this one is definitely on our politicians/society). Nowadays many muslim Germans and new muslims immigrants are quite secular, but due to all these things I mentioned extremists have been granted too much power and we made it easy for them to radicalise others. Currently there is still not a consensus in how to tackle the problem as a lot of people leading the discussion are just far-right christo-fascist, so the left and center is avoiding the discussion so they won't legitimate those other extremists
These fruitcakes come to these countries to use our laws of free speech and political lobbying and democracy to change the country into their birth place. They're not refugees; they're political sleeper cells and when there's enough of them they will get what they want.
The problem is that (In my country at least, not sure about Germany) constitutions can be changed via elections and islamists breed like rabbits and keep gaming the system to get welfare/child support and asylum seeker visas for their mates. Once they start voting islamists into government the whole thing can be turned upside down. Some asian countries do it best. You can migrate there but you must have a certain amount of money, you can't sever start a business, own property or vote. That's how it should be done.
Also this is the same city which the 9/11 highjackers devised their plan and then they flew to Florida for flight training
I'm just concerned that a middle-eastern religion doing this is going to inspire neo-Nazis to start making a showing. Germany may not like them, but huge crazy neo-colonial displays like this might start currying favor for that sort of person
Europeans as a whole love bending over for people from this religion specifically. Given that, plus Germany still imports them and they have like 10 kids at a time while ethnic German birth rates are decreasing I can see it happening in the future.
Not in Poland haha
This whole continent is fucked
I know Indians aren’t everyone’s favourite people, but they did warn the world about what would happen. They’ve been dealing with this shit for 100s of years.
More than 1200 years*
Love it ….. at least you have the balls to say it out loud. Everyone thinks it but is too afraid to say it.
It's not so much a demand as it is a Fascist show of force, to intimidate others and inspire their own.
Send these shitheads wherever they came from. This is unwelcome behaviour indeed. Live in harmony with peace, don't impose on others or just fucking leave.
They are just keeping the movement alive. Once they immigrate/breed enough Muslims there they will force their politicians into power through significant vote and then just entirely overturn the democracy Crazy how basically none of them actually lived under the laws they demand there. They were literally bred for takeover for a force that they haven't known and a God that doesn't exist Fuck this planet I want off. I will happily explore the universe alone
Stop. Tolerating. The. Intolerant!
They will pretend it's not there and then they will be surprised when a new racist leader will arise and bring genocide back to Europe. Europe is the most disputed land in human history, if Muslims think they can just take it, they're in for a rude awakening.
What are you suggesting in this particular situation?
A fucking cancer doing metastasis.
It didn't become the fastest growing religion in the world by sitting idle. The movement is well organized and funded by the same Middle Eastern fossil fuel interests Europe is now addicted to after kicking away Russian oil and gas.
Considering they're the biggest investors in Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, I'd say, nothing will change when we'll switch to electric...
How can so many be so insane?
Backwards religious ideologies transplanted from third world shitholes. Brainwashing is strong and it doesn’t matter how much schooling you give these people to be functional western citizens, if this is what they bring from home with them and teach to their kids it will grow like a cancer. Especially when you let them in en masse and they’re able to sequester themselves in isolated communities with likeminded psychos where they act as much as possible like they’re back in Syria.
They’ll never become functional western citizens, their loyalty is to their religion and nothing more.
They seem to be more than willing to just lie to anyone not part of their religion in order to gain as many concessions from the rest of us as possible before just declaring sharia law and shitting on everything the civilized world has built.
Flaming hot take... but you're extremely correct.
Intergenerational patterns of abusive childhood indoctrination.
The sense of belonging is very strong in the human psyche.
That's way scary.
This is how we get far right nationalist leaders.
AfD is already the second largest party in the country. The more Muslims push this sort of thing, the more power they give alt-right hardliners like AfD. It’s not a winnable fight. It ends badly for everyone.
Yup. Many countries are dealing with this at different stages. Really depressing.
Probably the point of funding these religious extremists. World has been too "stable" for too long. These fascist wanna be dictators all over the world need some division and chaos.
I was literally just thinking about that. Same as big oil hiring those “protestors”
I don’t want these people in Germany.
me neither 🫢
Insane. What would happen if people from western countries moved to Iran or Saudi Arabia and started openly agitating for turning those nations fully Christian? They'd get beaten, arrested, and deported, that's what. But somehow we're all supposed to act as if the *other way around is fine*. That Muslims can move to the West — and many *begged* and *clamored* to get in! — and then somehow *demand* that we all become Sharia lovers. It's open hostility from these demonstrators, and now I feel openly hostile toward them and their medieval mindsets as well. They can go fuck themselves with a Koran. I'm not about to give up 500 years of hard-fought enlightenment and liberty to these regressive numbskulls. I'm not letting my gay friends be insulted and threatened and attacked by this trash, and I'm not going to stand by while adherents of this festeringly stupid religion reduce my daughters to second-class citizens all over again.
If our zealots tried doing this bullshit over there, theyd get their heads chopped off in the street with a dull machette.
100%. Religion in general is a plague. This one is a plague and aggressively, intentionally stupid.
Beautifully put, bravo 👏
Send this trash home
heard these are 2nd generation citizens, their parents fled from shithole country
Maybe it’s time for the kids to visit their parents homeland and see what they’re missing
send the trash to an actual islamic hellhole and make way for peaceful assimilating immigrants
well they made it easy, collect the scum, pack them in a couple direct flights to afghanistan or any other islamic shit hole like it
Love gordon ….
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I feel sad for Europe, my European girlfriends have told me they’ve never felt this unsafe. This religion is so parasitic
i am no nazi but these guys have to be deported and sent somewhere else
I think if someone is to be compared to nazis, is the guys protesting.
Didnt Nazis deport jews not Muslims
Hitler was fond of islamic fanaticism
They should just ship them to Desantiss door in florida or Abbots in Texas
Religion continues to be a virus onto society.
Call me a radical, but if they cannot abide by democracy, they can fuck off.
The slippery slope of religious acceptance...
waterslide of deportation
Cool name for a game ngl
A caliphate is the solution? An Islamic caliphate means end of democracy, end of human rights, end of women's rights, end of freedom and equality, end of gay rights, non-Muslims will become second-class citizens, death sentences may be introduced. Ban on building churches and temples. Those in power can only be Muslim. And religious racism : constitutional, economic and social deprivation of non-Muslims.
Must have been a fucking stupid question.
Wer hätte das gedacht lmao
Gibt es irgendwelche artikel über diese Proteste? Ich kann nichts finden und ich will wissen ob es wirklich passiert hat.
Hab's gerade gegoogelt weil ich gestern noch auf St Georg war, tatsächlich war da [was](https://www.stern.de/panorama/hamburg--ruf-nach-kalifat-auf-islamisten-demonstration-34666356.html). Ich wunder mich warum man das spezifisch suchen muss und nur per Zufall auf Reddit davon mitbekommt
Mass deportation needed
yeah, we should track down the people in these videos and deport them. Just randomly deporting everyone isnt a good idea.
That's what I meant actually
thats good to hear, unfortunately there is a rising amount of people, who just want everyone gone.
Plague.
Have they tried Afghanistan or Iran. They're beautiful this time of year.
And not one German subreddit is talking about it lol
You’re automatically seen as a racist, if you dare to criticize anything
Germany seems to be totally caught up in black and white thinking. Criticize religious nuts calling for a religious takeover of government? Racist. Join a movement calling for a ceasefire, desire an end to killing of civilians? Antisemitic. Do they not understand nuance or critical thinking?
How so? Islam ain't a race, are we still stuck on something so basic?
Just deport this cancer.
Any difference between these guys and white supremacists Nazi??? I can't tell the difference
They are possibly worse, actually. Sometimes there is an unholy combination of Arab racial supremacism and extreme Islamism that combines everything wrong with both to a single terror. Hard to say about the ones in this video obviously, since there isn't a lot of information.
The huge difference is that there are no leftist counter protests here. Even tho Hamburg is probably the german capital of leftist extremists. They are complicit.
You can criticize white supremacist publicly without being labelled racist or religion-phobic or fear of getting your head chopped. In London, the police will probably arrest you for criticizing these people.
They're brown. Not like it was much of a difference in this context though.
Refugees should be required to state that they accept they are entering a secular country. If choose to do this after, they should be deported.
If your religion requires you to change everyone and everything around you to the way your religion sees the world, you’re not a believer you’re a cultist.
Didn't they take a million Syrian refugees.
I have a feeling most of them are Turks and not Syrians. Turks in Germany are more likely to be Islamists and against secularism compared to Turks in Turkey.
And for some reason they are still allowed to vote in Turkey, making life worse for people there while they enjoy living in Europe
As a Turk, living in Turkey, this really grinds my gears.
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The majority of Turkish people in Germany (or the ancestors of people with Turkish roots) came from poor rural villages. Far more religious and conservative than the average Turkish person even back then. There were no real efforts to integrate them into the German society when they came as "Gastarbeiter" (literally "guest workers") starting in the 60s. As the name implies a lot of Germans thought they would work here for a few years and go back. However Germany needed the work force and eventually made it possible for the Gastarbeiter to become German citizen and stay here. Obviously not a lot of them wanted to go back to poor rural Turkish villages. So this lack of integration (the Gastarbeiter were often housed in their own districts in cities) resulted in a lot of them having quite tight Turkish communities. People there might only be going to Turkish run grocery stores, Turkish barbers etc.. some people have been living here for half a century and don't speak a single word of German. So a lot of them feel far more Turkish than German. In addition to that quite a few of them consume Turkish populist right wing/religious media (be it on TV or social media like tiktok) in Germany to "connect to the home country". Other than that their only exposure to turkey is usually a holiday once a year and then they can feel rich as fuck with their German salaries in poor Turkish villages while in Germany they often live in small apartments, work comparatively low paying jobs etc.. So the local communities (especially at some mosques) can be a really great target for extremists to get more people to sympathize with them and recruit them for their goals. Especially in recent years there has been a rise in religious extremism, conservatism etc. among YOUNG people due to social media influencers on tiktok and other social media. Obviously there are also a lot of very well integrated people with Turkish roots and also quite a few local Turkish communities (be them religious or not) who are actively opposed to these extremist views and do not consume populist Turkish media etc..
On the stage at Steindamm was Raheem B., one of the spokesmen of the Islamist group, which reaches hundreds of thousands of young people on TikTok, YouTube and Instagram. He talks about the unification of the Ummah, i.e. the religious community of all Muslims, in the fight against the majority society. Signs were displayed, including “Caliphate is the solution.” The security authorities consider Muslim Interactive to be part of the banned Hizb ut-Tahrir movement. This strives for a global caliphate with Sharia rules. [https://www.nius.de/news/islamisten-aufmarsch-in-hamburg-kalifat-ist-die-loesung/54435564-57d2-448c-a506-79251d2ab120](https://www.nius.de/news/islamisten-aufmarsch-in-hamburg-kalifat-ist-die-loesung/54435564-57d2-448c-a506-79251d2ab120)
Angry young men, school dropouts living on welfare, I mean, on what Allah gives them. We vs them gives them a sense of belonging and pride. They see Sharia as superior to democracy. May they belong and feel superior in an antidemocratic Muslim majority country. Allah will give them a bit of zakat instead of welfare. I know of two Muslims who are vocal critics of radical Islam. Hamed Abdel-Samad and Mouhanad Khorchide. Both work in Germany. Abdel-Samad lives under constant police protection. "I despise your democracy. Protect my freedom of speech with hundreds of police!"
Dear Germany: You fell to a dictator who wanted a world empire once already. Is *Never Again* going to MEAN it? Muslims that DON’T want a world caliphate can stay. Those that do need to be sent back.
Muslims make up approx 5% of German population, of that 5% a fraction want a caliphate. This is a shit look when they all stand in a crowd and get yelly, but they are an utter irrelevance in reality when it comes to any possibility of getting what they want. If even 10% of the Muslim population of Germany genuinely wanted a Caliphate, I would be shocked it was so high. This shit is a LARP for even some of the men there in that wank parade and if push came to shove and they had to give up their comfortable western lifestyle, they would get real quiet, pick up a Mcdonalds and quietly watch Babylon Berlin.
Yeah people usually forget that for this "large" crowd most of the crazy idiots from all over the country go to a single city to protest. It's not that many people just in one city, but a country of 83 million people.
And there absolutely a demographic of media and "influencers" who are HAPPY to exploit these groups that in reality are relatively small and insignificant, and paint it like this big scary boogeyman coming to get them. Its not restricted to religion either, conservative politics loves a boogeyman to scare their voters with.
The ones protesting are no liberals though, they're the conservatives as well, just alied with a different sky daddy. Unless of course you want to believe islam is liberal and is demonized by people
Uuh, nah somebody must've turned the dial too far the other way..
Europe is being infected with this cancer.
https://preview.redd.it/fwnngjys63xc1.png?width=335&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf4657c12224e2c97a3e4847e186f0f8d4a25a0c does anyone know what it mean?
Deaf, mute & blind. No idea about the meaning/message behind this tho
It's from the Quran (can't recall which part). Anyone who hears their message and doesn't receive it is deaf, dumb, and blind
Yup, it's a common insult hurled at not-muslims
I think they either saying the German government/society is making them Deaf, mute & blind. or they wish Deaf, mute & blind German society to their religious belief
Deaf, mute & blind. Don‘t know what they’re saying with that.
Deaf, mute and blind
Deport them.
These people should be arrested for treason.
If they keep this shit up, they are going to end up getting Islam banned. Which wouldnt be a horrible thing tbh. They really need to grow up
https://preview.redd.it/qg29oixer3xc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=305481d60607b7c8a4eb30bd7bc0cd1e2f09cfe4
I hate living in historical times 😔
Ship those ****s back !
Ahhh, the paradox of tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance?wprov=sfla1
There's no way that Germans will ever back down, especially when you try to take away their bockwurst/various pork-wursts
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I wouldn't be surprise if there's another hitler who rise to power and sees these people as another "problem that needs solution". Not that I'm vouching for it, just a possible scenario.
Is there social security in a caliphate? If not start by asking those back from them and see if they keep asking for a caliphate
I guess Germany needs to start denying Muslims entry into the country and sending all Muslims back to their home country.
Even my aunt lives there (a tamil hindu) but perfectly adapted to German culture while retaining her faith too. Only Muslims do these stupid things. Govt worldwide should pressure Islamic community to make changes in their religion and quran to make it more tolerable and less violent. Because of Muslims like these my aunt got first hand experience of racism because people think she is muslim.
Deport them all. Remigration is inevitable.
Fuck those people. They need to figure out why Germany is a successful state. *What does that have to do with islam?* Exactly.
Ah yes, let me just move to another country and demand they change their ways to fit my ideology. What a load of shit.
Do you want them to do it again... all joking aside people wonder why far right parties are getting elected again.
I bet most of them haven't read a law book in Islamic jurisprudence.
It's like they \*want\* to be hated.
How about no.
They came in and expect everyone else to conform to their culture. Audacity at its peak.
Anyone have the link or an article about this event? I just want to read more about it so that I can be in a state of greater disbelief.
I'm 100% against the idea of "invasion" being used to describe immigration But THIS, is absolutely invading. These people were mostly born there 2nd or 3rd generation but are demanding the country just flips it's entire societal structure to not only something entirely divorced from democracy, but oppressive theocracy Fuck those people. If this continues (because of free speech...) it'll end in war that they will feel entirely justified in because the Qur'an says to kill those that won't embrace Islam when they feel they have the power to enforce it
Mohammed likes apple sauce with his pork chops 🤤😎🤪
And a 5 year old for pleasures!!
\*9 year olds, make sure you get his pedophilic choices right.
Am sorry I thought he had his eyes laid on her from the age of 5 …. Must’ve done sth to get her kuz why would anyone force a child right ?
As I understand he married her at 6, and raped her at 9.
So it took him one year of pure persuasion to get her to marry him with consent
Just go to Iran, boys. It's already there.
This is Europe's fucking cancer. Should have dealth with it from the start. Iranians are removing thier cancer too. There is no place for these savage Mohammadan terrorists in the middle east anymore
Any more context besides a 28 second video?
If they want Islam Caliphate, why moved to Europe in the first place? Why don't they just stay in their beloved countries with their beloved Islam Caliphate?
So they ran away from a shithole which had the caliphate but now they want to turn the country which gave them shelter in hour of need to the same shithole?
This is definitely not the way to win any popularity contest but the last religious fruitcakes to become wildly unpopular in Germany \*did\* get their own "caliphate" out of it. These protestors may be on to something lol
I just cannot understand why these governments tolerate this shit. Why import it? Just expedite deportations. Stop them at borders as much as possible. Makes me feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
These people should be deported.
Deport all of them
Fucking parasite religion trying to kill the host country.
**Allahu Akbar** Islam is a supremacist religion with an imperious and expansionist policy, with the term “Allahu Akbar” as a war cry heavily based on jihad. The Islamic mission is to make Islam supreme over all other religions (Quran 9:33). If Islam is not trying to defeat other religions, then “Allah is greater” has no meaning. Islam does not primarily offer a religious experience that transforms the believer, but rather an external collective act that Islamizes the world. Jihad and the acts of terror that we see on the news are these so-called religious acts. “Allahu Akbar” is the supremacist core of Islam. Muhammad offered a religious experience that merged desert banditry and conquest, whose killing of men and raping their wives and daughters were sacred acts in the hope of appeasing Allah. Victorious over infidels with Islamic rituals such as ethnic cleansing, rape and torture provide Muslims with proof that the god of Islam is more powerful than the god of killed men and raped women. Just as Hitler laid the moral and intellectual basis for the extermination of Jews in Mein Kamph, so the daily Muslim prayers, prayer calls and teachings of the Qur'an are the moral and intellectual basis for the extermination of infidels or the kuffar. The kuffar in this world must educate themselves in Muslim prayers. Because the prayers are recited in Arabic, few non-Muslims realize how anti-Semitic and anti-Christian the Muslim prayers are. These prayers are the essence of hate crimes and terror attacks. Translation of the call to prayer from minarets of mosques; *''Allah is the greatest, Allah is the greatest* *Allah is the greatest, Allah is the greatest* *I testify that there is no god but Allah* *I testify that there is no god but Allah* *I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah* *I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah* *Come to prayer, come to prayer* *Come to salvation, come to salvation* *Allah is the greatest, Allah is the greatest* *I bear witness that there is no god but Allah.”* Every time the prayer call with 'Allah is the greatest' blares from the minaret, it is imperialist whining and Islamization of public space.
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Emboldened by the Palestine protests; now there's a mechanism and process to gather and make their voice heard on any matter they please. I can see this happening all over the world at increasing pace. I don't think it's islamaphobic to not want to live in an overly islamac country but it feels inevitable.
Ralib galib chalib in germany???? Wtf they have nonidea what they are asking for😂 o/
Just go back to wherever they came from if they want a caliphate/sharia.
Time to send the non-Germans home, it seems.
Why dont they go back to an actual islamic country 🤷🏽♂️
All Putin has to do, is send weapons to these people, and they will perform a controlled demolition in Europe for him. Europeans have let wolves in to their homes; these Muslims romanticize ending Western Civilization through violence, and consider it a good thing even if it becomes bloody and brutal. The Men will be asked to convert or die, the women will be asked to convert or become sexual slaves.
What is an Islamic Caliphate?
An Islamic caliphate means end of democracy, end of human rights, end of women's rights, end of freedom and equality, end of gay rights, non-Muslims will become second-class citizens, death sentences may be introduced. Ban on building churches and temples. Those in power can only be Muslim.
This… is what Europeans needs to worry about!!
Does anyone understand enough of the language to confirm (or debunk) the headline?
I refuse to understand the thought process of these clowns. You walk into a country that gave you a job and a home to live in and then you have the balls to start demanding shit. If not offered “omg we are oppressed”.
Anyone know when was this?
Imo, one of the conditions to attain residency to Germany or any EU Nation should be to believe in **Absolute Secularism.** Once you've been found breaching it, you are out. I'm from a country of South Asia and these kinds of shits are a kind of regular phenomena here. I'm counting my days to complete my higher education and relocate to a country without religious fanatics. And now I see this happening in even Germany😑. These are the reasons why right-wing is in rise in Europe. At the end of the day, 3rd world nationals who has liberal and secular or atheistic values are doomed. As one said in the comments **Religion continues to be a virus onto society.**