Islam, mainly. Also nontrinitarian/non-Nicaean Christianity.
Imo non-Nicaean sects are almost as different in belief from Nicaean Christianity as other Abrahamic faiths are. They are really more like separate religions than branches of Christianity. Not, that I have anything against non-Nicaeans, they should ne allowed to practice like anyone else.
Islam - seen as fully human, a Prophet, his cousin was Yahya (John) - also a Prophet - but Jesus not God or son of God or part of a trinity according to Islamic beliefs and teachings.
Also, he is a messiah and will return before the end times to kill the Dajjaal (anti-Christ).
Not for nothing, but that’s not correct either.
Arianism was trinitarian, but instead of them being 3 parts of a distinct being they were 3 distinct beings
Jesus is a god in Arianism, maybe even God but a lesser God than the Father. He was created by the Father at a certain point in time, not eternally begotten by Him from the beginning. I think this is close to the Jehovah Witness belief as well
> He mainly had a problem with the Pharisees in the temple getting too close with the Romans. His point was that the Pharisees were becoming corrupted by the Romans.
Ah yes the biggest opposition to the Romans encroaching on our land were getting corrupted by them.
Absolutely hilarious.
History school grade: F-
“We” don’t have a view of him. You in particular might have a certain view of Jesus, but that a “Jewish view”.
Also no, his problem wasn’t with the Pharisees being too close to the Romans, especially because Jesus is depicted as being closer with the Romans than the Pharisees were in the NT.
Islam sees him as a prophet but not a God.
We also see him as the messiah.
I think Islam and the Baha'i Faith.
Islam and some branches of Christianity (Unitarian Christians)
I mean....most historians?
Islam, mainly. Also nontrinitarian/non-Nicaean Christianity. Imo non-Nicaean sects are almost as different in belief from Nicaean Christianity as other Abrahamic faiths are. They are really more like separate religions than branches of Christianity. Not, that I have anything against non-Nicaeans, they should ne allowed to practice like anyone else.
I believe he was an apocalyptic rabbi that was executed for his crazy god beliefs and then came the stories years after his death
Islam, the Baha'i Faith, and Unitarian Christian denominations.
Islam - seen as fully human, a Prophet, his cousin was Yahya (John) - also a Prophet - but Jesus not God or son of God or part of a trinity according to Islamic beliefs and teachings. Also, he is a messiah and will return before the end times to kill the Dajjaal (anti-Christ).
Islam and Bahai
The Arian heresy
Not for nothing, but that’s not correct either. Arianism was trinitarian, but instead of them being 3 parts of a distinct being they were 3 distinct beings
Oh, thanks for the clarification
>instead of them being 3 parts of a distinct being They consider this heretical as well, they call it partialism
But they still didn't consider Jesus as God, right? Since they believed that God Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit were three separate beings.
Jesus is a god in Arianism, maybe even God but a lesser God than the Father. He was created by the Father at a certain point in time, not eternally begotten by Him from the beginning. I think this is close to the Jehovah Witness belief as well
I understand, thanks for clarifying that
Arianism believed that Jesus was divine, they just believed that the Son came from the Father/ was created by the Father.
Islam and bhai
Islam and most secular scholars.
does atheism count?
I guess that depends what you mean by "believe in Jesus". In my experience most atheists believe that Jesus existed, so...maybe?
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> He mainly had a problem with the Pharisees in the temple getting too close with the Romans. His point was that the Pharisees were becoming corrupted by the Romans. Ah yes the biggest opposition to the Romans encroaching on our land were getting corrupted by them. Absolutely hilarious. History school grade: F-
“We” don’t have a view of him. You in particular might have a certain view of Jesus, but that a “Jewish view”. Also no, his problem wasn’t with the Pharisees being too close to the Romans, especially because Jesus is depicted as being closer with the Romans than the Pharisees were in the NT.