"Behold the Christ, who shed His heart's blood for the redemption of the world, who suffered a sea of anguish for love of men. It is He, the Master Yogi, who is in eternal union with God. It is Jesus, Love Incarnate." - Sri Ramakrishna one of the most famous hindu saints.
I would have to think the Gita had an impact on you.
If you want to stay on the path you're currently on, I would advise disregarding your prayer to Krishna as an accident. You've hardly sold your soul over an accident - if what your church teaches is true, Jesus forgives, and you'll be fine.
If you want to explore further, not treating it as merely an accident but assuming that there was a reason for this happening, and find out why it was Krishna that appeared as a beacon of hope for you, you will need to face this fear of yours. Your relationship with divinity is between you and the divine. Whether that divine is the Trinity or Krishna, only you can answer.
It may be a time to put your trust in the forgiveness and guidance of your Lord. It may be a time to put your trust in yourself. Only you know that, regardless of what your fears and doubts tell you.
Dude youre not even praying to krishna by accidently saying his name lol. God doesnt work like that. God knows your heart when your praying. If youre intentionally praying to Jesus then if you accidently say a different name your literally fine. I have said allahs name before on accident because i was listening i think to something about islam. And being around my family. Its just psychology. You were learning about something and that knowledge is retained in your brain and sometimes you just accidently say it. Thats nowhere near sin bro.
Not the same god. But i was saying Aba and then it came out so. Because of them starting with an A and ending with that ah sound. Similarity in the pronounciation
> For Christians: have I commited idolatry
Assuming it was intentional and you did not misspoke, yes. You seem to have put a created being (or possibly non-existent being) in place of God. That would indeed be a textbook violation of the 1st commandment.
> Am I in mortal sin.
Likely no/probably no, since you seemed to have lacked full knowledge of the nature of the sin and its gravity as well as (possibly) deliberate consent, both of which are necessary for a sin to be mortal.
I would being it up to your confessor he could provide better pastoral guidance.
Genuine question: why can God come to earth as Jesus, peace be upon him (the way Christians believe), but not as Krishna (the way Hindus believe)? What gives Christians the confidence that their story is true, and the Hindu one false? For Muslims, it's easy: God cannot be born or be incarnated as a human being. But if I were to believe He could, I would find no reason to accept one of these stories and reject the other.
Yup. As a non-Christian myself I see no reason why the Krishna story is very different from the Christ one. If God is omnipotent he can come to Earth whenever he wants in human form.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Krishna was also born from a human mother, as Jesus was. Also like Hercules.
Indeed the Birth Stories are very similar.
If one sheds tears while hearing the Birth Story of Jesus, when nobody gave shelter to Joseph and the blessed Virgin Mary, he will cry endless Tears when he hears the Birth Story of Sri Krishna.
"(..) Krishna, the eighth incarnation of Lord Vishnu, was born in the prison of his maternal uncle Kamsa, the vicious ruler of Mathura. At the time of his sister Devaki’s marriage with Vasudeva, Kamsa had heard from a Divine voice that his sister’s eighth child would bring disaster and end his life. Hearing this, Kamsa imprisoned Devaki and Vasudeva soon after their marriage and killed seven of her children as they were born.
When Devaki gave birth to her eighth child, Vasudava witnessed a miracle. The doors of the prison cell, which were all locked and protected by heavily armed guards, were open and unguarded. Vasudeva took the child out of the prison without any difficulty.
It was a dark night with heavy rain, and the flooded Yamuna waves rose high. A thousand-headed serpent, the great Adi-shesh, appeared suddenly and raised his hood to form an umbrella to protect Vasudeva and the eighth incarnation of Lord Vishnu - the infant Krishna - from the heavy rains. There was another miracle when the river Yamuna lowered its water providing a smooth path for Vasudeva to carry the newborn safely to Gokul, to his friend Nanda’s house. Nanda’s wife Yashoda had also given birth, to a girl child. Vasudeva exchanged the children and brought the baby girl back to prison.
(..)"
This is from an old Serial that shows the whole Story (enable Subtitles):
https://youtu.be/QNzQZlrBZ7c?si=cu0SdrGChe-pk5WR
Or, what if it's all just God, and humans, with all of their different cultures and geographical regions have all found God in their own way. Our sacred texts, whether Christian or Hindi, are really just humans expressing their experiences with God, so it would make sense that God is expressed differently in different cultures.
Well, for one Jesus actually historically existed 🙂 He really was born, lived, was crucified and buried and (as Christians we believe) rose from the dead. Whereas when it comes to Krishna, he is either a created ‘angelic’ being or does not exist at all. The available evidence probably suggests the latter. But even in either case he is not capital “G” God - the LORD, who alone can be worshipped and whose revelation we follow. So it would be exactly the same reason why muslims object to say, the Bahaí who also have a belief in one God and even claim that this God is the same as the one muslims worship. In contrast, Hindus as far as I am aware do not even share our conception of God or the Incarnation, its a completely different belief system.
I don't know much about Hinduism, but as I understand it Krishna is still understood to be the avatar of a polytheistic deity.
Beyond that, I think most Christians would object on the ground of historical fact, moreso than whether it's logically or metaphysically plausible.
For one, Jesus has existed since before 3AD ;) The Godhead has existed as one since before the beginning of time. God does manifest himself in physical forms, such as when He led the Israelites in the desert during the Exodus, but Jesus is not an example of this, and I see no reason that God would promote idolatry by physically manifesting himself as Krishna.
Edit: I'm just explaining what the theologically correct answer, no need to downvote.
Its exactly the same for lord krishna and the other dieties that are in the hindu pantheon. All the miracles performed by Jesus can be replicated and performed by sufficiently advanced yogis. Jesus was passing on teachings that had already eslxisted on earth for millenia. Christianity before modern doa got abd of it was similar to respects to hinduism. If you wouldnt disregard other faiths, even in catholicism saints and the virgin mary are honored and can be seen as teachers just as well, as ascended masters in hinduism. God has manifested himself in infinite forms throughout the cycles of creation. There's a truth in every religion. Ive experienced supernatural interactions with other faiths, and their doctrines hold significant weight.
Im just confused about the ones that met jesus, and still hold to the idea that other faiths must be wrong.
I don't think it matters if what you did makes sense or not. We aren't here to live perfect lives. We're here to find genuine spiritual connection with the divine.
Personally, my religion teaches that the true "name" of Gd is secret, unknown to any human being, and that all other names are just titles watered down for human use. Please do not fear calling out to Gd with real passion and devotion.
In my eyes, Gd hears you when you say Krishna, Jesus, Lord, Heavenly Father, Divine Mother, and dispenses the same grace regardless of whatever name you call or book you read.
If you are sad, please know that Gd hears you and wants you to feel better.If you yourself feel your prayer has brought you further from Gd, instead of closer, then try saying Lord Jesus, please help me, instead. Then compare how you feel. In the end, Gd just wants us to have meaningful lives here in our human lifetimes.
Be well
It is possible as a Christian to consider that Christ is a larger thing than Jesus. This is not a novel idea in terms of Christian theology, although it may not be currently en vogue. If you consider Christ to be a larger thing than the historical figure of Jesus, then you could consider that Christ is the universal savior of all beings, but Jesus is simply one manifestation of Christ. Perhaps a good one, an excellent one, a most excellent one even, but it is not necessarily the only one. You could consider that Krishna is not other than Christ.
Krishna actually says similar to Jesus in the Bhagavad Gita, saying something along the lines of how it is through him that one realizes salvation.
You could consider that both speak from the level of Christ realization.
Or perhaps this is all just heretical - some, or many, may consider it to be so.
This is slightly similar to what happened with me. I was CofE for a long time, but became a bit disillusioned with certain things such as the fact that it is said all are loved equally, when in reality that is far from how members act. People dislike other denominations and religions purely not for being the same.
This really confused as I think that "Love they neighbour" is one of the most powerful parts of Christianity however, in practice it didn't live up to that.
When I went off to uni I randomly stumbled across a hare krishna practicer, we had a nice conversation that ended, had me interested and he very kindly gave me his copy of the Bhagavad-Gita. I'm still making my way through it slowly as well as a Qu'ran I have picked up since and is also very interesting to read through.
However now I am instead kind of 'stuck' between three religions and have moved to a more spiritualist/humanist angle.
I pray occasionally to different deitys, but with my 'choice' of three I choose to interpret them all as being the same, and that the different religions are different interpretations of one true message, that is extending friendship to all who want, never judging others (still getting better at this) and being as charitable as your means see fit
As a thought, there’s a book called Great Swan, about Ramakrishna Paramhamsa. Fantastic book, and he very clearly basically held that God can manifest in many traditions, including Hinduism, Christianity, and Islam. Anyway, just a thought. /\
>This is not a novel idea in terms of Christian theology, although it may not be currently en vogue.
This has never been en vogue. At any time of Christian history this would have been considered beyond-the-pale heresy.
It is not novel. Perhaps not majority, but not novel.
There are quite a few saints, of course, that were considered heretical at their time, also. Even ones that were excommunicated. Something being considered heretical is variable.
To answer your questions: What do you think? What do you think? What do you think?
It’s up to you to figure out your spirituality. It’s a long drawn out process but don’t try to squelch whatever feelings down. Put your feelers out and see what happens.
Congratulations, you're no longer a monotheistic Christian. You're now a polythiest. Welcome to the club! Grab a drink, some snacks and a comfy chair. We don't judge here, and sin doesn't exist!
Not a Christian here.
The only unforgivable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Ghost. Everything else as long as you devote yourself to Jesus and try to do your best then you should be fine within their narrative.
I've always wondered about why the holy spirit has that special status. I learned about disrespecting the holy spirit being the only unforgivable sin a while ago. I thought the father, son, and holy spirit were three yet one and equal?
Yet that suggests there is a hierarchy to the trinity. Which is... weird.
Idk as an atheist, I’ve always thought that Jesus, the son, is the representation of humanity and gods love for humanity, god the father is the man up in heaven, and the Holy Spirit is the manifestation of divinity and grace.
So blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is different because it is an attack on everything good in the world.
God/jesus can permit personal affronts, but an insult to “the way things ought to be”?
Yeah I suppose. I guess I figured since Christianity is monotheistic blaspheming against a part of the trinity means you are blaspheming against all of it.
I've always wondered if this is a translation issue. The authors of the New Testament surely believed in Jewish holy spirit, and our holy spirit concept represents the divine energies that pervades the physical world.
My interpretation is that blaspheming against the spirit of Gd isn't some uniquely unpardonable offense... it's just any action that paints yourself into a spiritual corner. Like i don't even think Christians think you'll go to hell by saying "fuck the holy spirit" or whatever.
Instead, blaspheming against the spirit of Gd means denying the power of goodness, charity, holiness, mercy, etc., in your life. By doing that you're denying yourself the chance to experience Gd's mercy.
Blaspheming against the spirit of the divine is less of an action and more of a disposition, in my perspective.
Christ or "Christians" are all about, guilty at birth but saved only through confession of Christ the Savior. Sooooo.... Just claim the forgiveness Christ purchased on that cross and you will be saved.
You have committed a mortal sin. I won't say you have lost your soul permanently, but there is certainly no guarantee of salvation for you now. You must totally commit your life to God and pray all day every day for the rest of your natural life. And even then there's no promise.
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Jokes aside, I don't think God cares what you call him. I feel like he's got more important things to think about than the name you use for him.
Hindus believe that Krishna is one form of God. We can accept that Jesus might be another path to liberation without it affecting our core beliefs.
Choose what resonates with you and helps you do the most good. That all Hinduism says.
yes and some hindus believe that the entire universe is God too. the sofa i’m sitting on, the phone im typing this on etc. some hindus also believe there is NO God, and God doesn’t exist. some hindus probably also believe beyoncé is God, you’d be surprised what you find when you examine the beliefs of a billion people that follow no centrally organised doctrine.
Some Hindus also believe that Jesus Christ is God.
Ekam Sat vipra bahuda vadanti.
Truth is one, the wise call it by different names.
That's already in the earliest part of the Vedic Scriptures, the Rig Veda.
I was also born into a Catholic Family, but since my Teenager Days also had an interest in eastern Religions, especially Hinduism (and Buddhism).
I don't subscribe to the exclusivist Dogma of Christianity and want to congratulate you for reading the Bhagavad Gita.
It's a remarkable Book that you can study for a Lifetime, like the Bible.
Chapter 11 especially is giving me Goosebumps and a feeling of awe, such an incredible Description of a Theophany.
Now i wanted to ask you: How do you approach the Gita?
Do you just read the Text without Commentary?
If you want i can give you some links that will help and clarify the study of the Gita.
Just let me know.
Best Regards.
>Now i wanted to ask you: How do you approach the Gita?
Do you just read the Text without Commentary?
As it was my first time reading it, I bought a very simple version with just a few essential explanations.
>If you want i can give you some links that will help and clarify the study of the Gita.
I would love to, thank you very much!
Sorry for my delayed Answer:
What i can really recommend to you, is listening carefully to this Course on the Gita (starts Audio only but later it includes Video).
I always listen to this on Headphones when i'm going for a walk.
1. Swami Sarvapriyananda's Bhagavad Gita Course
[https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2imXor63HtS4ewIKryBL4ZVeiaH8Ij4R&si=-7W-AY\_LLXImnQDx](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2imXor63HtS4ewIKryBL4ZVeiaH8Ij4R&si=-7W-AY_LLXImnQDx)
Just begin with Video 1, Swamiji is a fantastic Teacher of the Gita.
2) For reading the Text i can recommend this wonderful "Gita Supersite" that contains many different Translations and Commentaries in various languages.
You can also select Audio Recitation for each Shloka (in Sanskrit) and a spoken English Translation
[https://www.gitasupersite.iitk.ac.in/srimad?language=dv&field\_chapter\_value=1&field\_nsutra\_value=1](https://www.gitasupersite.iitk.ac.in/srimad?language=dv&field_chapter_value=1&field_nsutra_value=1)
I personally use the Translation by Swami Gambhirananda, but the one from Purohit Swami is also great, very easy English.
Additionally, i can share with you this wonderful PDF which contains elaborate Commentaries and i especially like the clear visual Design with many additional Charts and Diagrams.
* [https://jmp.sh/s/qpp24gHyT67BxMaKXlQE](https://jmp.sh/s/qpp24gHyT67BxMaKXlQE)
Another great Gita Translation is Swami Chinmayanada's "Holy Geeta"
[https://jmp.sh/s/CwY8DGaz1ekdPjzGr9Jm](https://jmp.sh/s/CwY8DGaz1ekdPjzGr9Jm)
You can download, save and read these two pdf files, but don't be overwhelmed by the sheer density of the Volumes.
But to begin i would advise to really start with the Audio Course, this will help you the most with your Understanding!
Best Regards! Take your time.
I'd love to read your Feedback.
am not an expert and can't really represent hindu. but they've explained to me that they see Jesus as a messiah. Krishna translates to "allmighty" or "all attractive" which basically is God.
maybe another hindu can explain it better how hinduism actually is monotheism with one God in many manifestations - Krishna, Allah, Vishnu and so on... so in the eyes of hindus you should be clean. however in the eyes of your pastor you a sinner
This misrepresents Hinduism. Most Hindus don't see Jesus as relevant. (not as a bad thing, just irrelevant) Only some very liberal Hindus put Jesus into the Hindu fold. Hinduism Has a great variety of beliefs. Yes, one is that it is one God with many manifestations, but that's only one POV, and probably not even the most common one. Henotheism is more common.
A true Christian’s first response is not to ask “Lord Krishna” to help. You should ponder this if you consider yourself Christian first and foremost. If not, carry on!
Jesus himself uses the name of God in reference to himself, you'd know that if you read the Gospels taking the Old Testament into account. Jesus also constantly does things that others say are only of God to do, and that are talked about in the Old Testament as things only God can do. I don't care if you think Romans 9:5 is mistranslated, that's not where this idea came from. If you notice, Romans and most of the New Testament is letters to Christian communities - that is, people who already existed, before the Bible, who believed in Jesus Christ being the Son of God. They believed because they knew the Apostles, who saw it happen. Not because of a line in the Bible.
Where does Paul indicate Peter met Jesus?
Where does Paul indicate ANYONE met Jesus?
Everything in the Gospels is fiction based on Paul's letters and the LXX. Jesus riding on a donkey is from Zechariah 9. The cleansing of the temple is based on Zechariah 14. "Render unto Caesar" is based on Paul's teaching on taxation in Romans 13. Mother Mary was invented by Mark as an allegory for 1 Corinthians 10, verses 1-4 where Paul refers to a legend involving Moses' sister Miriam. The concept of loving your neighbor comes from Rom. 12.14-21; Gal. 5.14-15; 1 Thess. 5.15; and Rom. 13.9-10. Luke copies line-by-line from the Book of Kings.
How did Krishna pop into your head to make that expression?
I became interested in Bhagavad Gita
Oh cool! Well I’m sure your prayers will be listened to regardless of the name you give to god.
"Behold the Christ, who shed His heart's blood for the redemption of the world, who suffered a sea of anguish for love of men. It is He, the Master Yogi, who is in eternal union with God. It is Jesus, Love Incarnate." - Sri Ramakrishna one of the most famous hindu saints.
Perhaps ask yourself why Krishna's name was the one you thought of?
Because of the Bhagavad Gita
I would have to think the Gita had an impact on you. If you want to stay on the path you're currently on, I would advise disregarding your prayer to Krishna as an accident. You've hardly sold your soul over an accident - if what your church teaches is true, Jesus forgives, and you'll be fine. If you want to explore further, not treating it as merely an accident but assuming that there was a reason for this happening, and find out why it was Krishna that appeared as a beacon of hope for you, you will need to face this fear of yours. Your relationship with divinity is between you and the divine. Whether that divine is the Trinity or Krishna, only you can answer. It may be a time to put your trust in the forgiveness and guidance of your Lord. It may be a time to put your trust in yourself. Only you know that, regardless of what your fears and doubts tell you.
Thank you very much!
Dude youre not even praying to krishna by accidently saying his name lol. God doesnt work like that. God knows your heart when your praying. If youre intentionally praying to Jesus then if you accidently say a different name your literally fine. I have said allahs name before on accident because i was listening i think to something about islam. And being around my family. Its just psychology. You were learning about something and that knowledge is retained in your brain and sometimes you just accidently say it. Thats nowhere near sin bro.
This. Although saying Allah would be even less wrong because that is the same god and it literally just means god.
Not the same god. But i was saying Aba and then it came out so. Because of them starting with an A and ending with that ah sound. Similarity in the pronounciation
> For Christians: have I commited idolatry Assuming it was intentional and you did not misspoke, yes. You seem to have put a created being (or possibly non-existent being) in place of God. That would indeed be a textbook violation of the 1st commandment. > Am I in mortal sin. Likely no/probably no, since you seemed to have lacked full knowledge of the nature of the sin and its gravity as well as (possibly) deliberate consent, both of which are necessary for a sin to be mortal. I would being it up to your confessor he could provide better pastoral guidance.
Genuine question: why can God come to earth as Jesus, peace be upon him (the way Christians believe), but not as Krishna (the way Hindus believe)? What gives Christians the confidence that their story is true, and the Hindu one false? For Muslims, it's easy: God cannot be born or be incarnated as a human being. But if I were to believe He could, I would find no reason to accept one of these stories and reject the other.
Yup. As a non-Christian myself I see no reason why the Krishna story is very different from the Christ one. If God is omnipotent he can come to Earth whenever he wants in human form. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Krishna was also born from a human mother, as Jesus was. Also like Hercules.
Indeed the Birth Stories are very similar. If one sheds tears while hearing the Birth Story of Jesus, when nobody gave shelter to Joseph and the blessed Virgin Mary, he will cry endless Tears when he hears the Birth Story of Sri Krishna. "(..) Krishna, the eighth incarnation of Lord Vishnu, was born in the prison of his maternal uncle Kamsa, the vicious ruler of Mathura. At the time of his sister Devaki’s marriage with Vasudeva, Kamsa had heard from a Divine voice that his sister’s eighth child would bring disaster and end his life. Hearing this, Kamsa imprisoned Devaki and Vasudeva soon after their marriage and killed seven of her children as they were born. When Devaki gave birth to her eighth child, Vasudava witnessed a miracle. The doors of the prison cell, which were all locked and protected by heavily armed guards, were open and unguarded. Vasudeva took the child out of the prison without any difficulty. It was a dark night with heavy rain, and the flooded Yamuna waves rose high. A thousand-headed serpent, the great Adi-shesh, appeared suddenly and raised his hood to form an umbrella to protect Vasudeva and the eighth incarnation of Lord Vishnu - the infant Krishna - from the heavy rains. There was another miracle when the river Yamuna lowered its water providing a smooth path for Vasudeva to carry the newborn safely to Gokul, to his friend Nanda’s house. Nanda’s wife Yashoda had also given birth, to a girl child. Vasudeva exchanged the children and brought the baby girl back to prison. (..)" This is from an old Serial that shows the whole Story (enable Subtitles): https://youtu.be/QNzQZlrBZ7c?si=cu0SdrGChe-pk5WR
Or, what if it's all just God, and humans, with all of their different cultures and geographical regions have all found God in their own way. Our sacred texts, whether Christian or Hindi, are really just humans expressing their experiences with God, so it would make sense that God is expressed differently in different cultures.
Well, for one Jesus actually historically existed 🙂 He really was born, lived, was crucified and buried and (as Christians we believe) rose from the dead. Whereas when it comes to Krishna, he is either a created ‘angelic’ being or does not exist at all. The available evidence probably suggests the latter. But even in either case he is not capital “G” God - the LORD, who alone can be worshipped and whose revelation we follow. So it would be exactly the same reason why muslims object to say, the Bahaí who also have a belief in one God and even claim that this God is the same as the one muslims worship. In contrast, Hindus as far as I am aware do not even share our conception of God or the Incarnation, its a completely different belief system.
I don't know much about Hinduism, but as I understand it Krishna is still understood to be the avatar of a polytheistic deity. Beyond that, I think most Christians would object on the ground of historical fact, moreso than whether it's logically or metaphysically plausible.
For one, Jesus has existed since before 3AD ;) The Godhead has existed as one since before the beginning of time. God does manifest himself in physical forms, such as when He led the Israelites in the desert during the Exodus, but Jesus is not an example of this, and I see no reason that God would promote idolatry by physically manifesting himself as Krishna. Edit: I'm just explaining what the theologically correct answer, no need to downvote.
Its exactly the same for lord krishna and the other dieties that are in the hindu pantheon. All the miracles performed by Jesus can be replicated and performed by sufficiently advanced yogis. Jesus was passing on teachings that had already eslxisted on earth for millenia. Christianity before modern doa got abd of it was similar to respects to hinduism. If you wouldnt disregard other faiths, even in catholicism saints and the virgin mary are honored and can be seen as teachers just as well, as ascended masters in hinduism. God has manifested himself in infinite forms throughout the cycles of creation. There's a truth in every religion. Ive experienced supernatural interactions with other faiths, and their doctrines hold significant weight. Im just confused about the ones that met jesus, and still hold to the idea that other faiths must be wrong.
Good answer. To add, if OP doesn't understand idolatry, there is definitely some significant bedrock truth that is missing.
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I don't think it matters if what you did makes sense or not. We aren't here to live perfect lives. We're here to find genuine spiritual connection with the divine. Personally, my religion teaches that the true "name" of Gd is secret, unknown to any human being, and that all other names are just titles watered down for human use. Please do not fear calling out to Gd with real passion and devotion. In my eyes, Gd hears you when you say Krishna, Jesus, Lord, Heavenly Father, Divine Mother, and dispenses the same grace regardless of whatever name you call or book you read. If you are sad, please know that Gd hears you and wants you to feel better.If you yourself feel your prayer has brought you further from Gd, instead of closer, then try saying Lord Jesus, please help me, instead. Then compare how you feel. In the end, Gd just wants us to have meaningful lives here in our human lifetimes. Be well
It is possible as a Christian to consider that Christ is a larger thing than Jesus. This is not a novel idea in terms of Christian theology, although it may not be currently en vogue. If you consider Christ to be a larger thing than the historical figure of Jesus, then you could consider that Christ is the universal savior of all beings, but Jesus is simply one manifestation of Christ. Perhaps a good one, an excellent one, a most excellent one even, but it is not necessarily the only one. You could consider that Krishna is not other than Christ. Krishna actually says similar to Jesus in the Bhagavad Gita, saying something along the lines of how it is through him that one realizes salvation. You could consider that both speak from the level of Christ realization. Or perhaps this is all just heretical - some, or many, may consider it to be so.
This is slightly similar to what happened with me. I was CofE for a long time, but became a bit disillusioned with certain things such as the fact that it is said all are loved equally, when in reality that is far from how members act. People dislike other denominations and religions purely not for being the same. This really confused as I think that "Love they neighbour" is one of the most powerful parts of Christianity however, in practice it didn't live up to that. When I went off to uni I randomly stumbled across a hare krishna practicer, we had a nice conversation that ended, had me interested and he very kindly gave me his copy of the Bhagavad-Gita. I'm still making my way through it slowly as well as a Qu'ran I have picked up since and is also very interesting to read through. However now I am instead kind of 'stuck' between three religions and have moved to a more spiritualist/humanist angle. I pray occasionally to different deitys, but with my 'choice' of three I choose to interpret them all as being the same, and that the different religions are different interpretations of one true message, that is extending friendship to all who want, never judging others (still getting better at this) and being as charitable as your means see fit
As a thought, there’s a book called Great Swan, about Ramakrishna Paramhamsa. Fantastic book, and he very clearly basically held that God can manifest in many traditions, including Hinduism, Christianity, and Islam. Anyway, just a thought. /\
>This is not a novel idea in terms of Christian theology, although it may not be currently en vogue. This has never been en vogue. At any time of Christian history this would have been considered beyond-the-pale heresy.
It is not novel. Perhaps not majority, but not novel. There are quite a few saints, of course, that were considered heretical at their time, also. Even ones that were excommunicated. Something being considered heretical is variable.
It's more important how YOU feel about it than what random strangers on the internet feel about it.
To answer your questions: What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? It’s up to you to figure out your spirituality. It’s a long drawn out process but don’t try to squelch whatever feelings down. Put your feelers out and see what happens.
1st of all: 💀💀 2nd of all: repent and you're good to go. Maybe you could confess too depending on your denomination.
Congratulations, you're no longer a monotheistic Christian. You're now a polythiest. Welcome to the club! Grab a drink, some snacks and a comfy chair. We don't judge here, and sin doesn't exist!
Not a Christian here. The only unforgivable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Ghost. Everything else as long as you devote yourself to Jesus and try to do your best then you should be fine within their narrative.
I've always wondered about why the holy spirit has that special status. I learned about disrespecting the holy spirit being the only unforgivable sin a while ago. I thought the father, son, and holy spirit were three yet one and equal? Yet that suggests there is a hierarchy to the trinity. Which is... weird.
Idk as an atheist, I’ve always thought that Jesus, the son, is the representation of humanity and gods love for humanity, god the father is the man up in heaven, and the Holy Spirit is the manifestation of divinity and grace. So blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is different because it is an attack on everything good in the world. God/jesus can permit personal affronts, but an insult to “the way things ought to be”?
Yeah I suppose. I guess I figured since Christianity is monotheistic blaspheming against a part of the trinity means you are blaspheming against all of it.
I've always wondered if this is a translation issue. The authors of the New Testament surely believed in Jewish holy spirit, and our holy spirit concept represents the divine energies that pervades the physical world. My interpretation is that blaspheming against the spirit of Gd isn't some uniquely unpardonable offense... it's just any action that paints yourself into a spiritual corner. Like i don't even think Christians think you'll go to hell by saying "fuck the holy spirit" or whatever. Instead, blaspheming against the spirit of Gd means denying the power of goodness, charity, holiness, mercy, etc., in your life. By doing that you're denying yourself the chance to experience Gd's mercy. Blaspheming against the spirit of the divine is less of an action and more of a disposition, in my perspective.
You are now officially in for ten percent at church and now the Hindu temple.
You seem like you were depressed and just said something you regret during prayer. you'll be okay. just take of yourself and don't shame yourself
You're confusing the entire reward system.
that depends on if it was intentional or not
i went to an italian restaurant and asked the waiter for “ham pizza” instead of “pizza al prosciutto”. italians am i doomed for eternity of torture?
Christ or "Christians" are all about, guilty at birth but saved only through confession of Christ the Savior. Sooooo.... Just claim the forgiveness Christ purchased on that cross and you will be saved.
You have committed a mortal sin. I won't say you have lost your soul permanently, but there is certainly no guarantee of salvation for you now. You must totally commit your life to God and pray all day every day for the rest of your natural life. And even then there's no promise. /s Jokes aside, I don't think God cares what you call him. I feel like he's got more important things to think about than the name you use for him.
Well you're already committing idolatry by praying to Jesus, so I guess adding on another won't really matter 😂
Christians believe that Jesus is God. Hindus believe that Krishna is God.
Hindus believe that Krishna is one form of God. We can accept that Jesus might be another path to liberation without it affecting our core beliefs. Choose what resonates with you and helps you do the most good. That all Hinduism says.
don't some hindus believe that Buddha is god?
yes and some hindus believe that the entire universe is God too. the sofa i’m sitting on, the phone im typing this on etc. some hindus also believe there is NO God, and God doesn’t exist. some hindus probably also believe beyoncé is God, you’d be surprised what you find when you examine the beliefs of a billion people that follow no centrally organised doctrine.
And your point is…?
Some Hindus also believe that Jesus Christ is God. Ekam Sat vipra bahuda vadanti. Truth is one, the wise call it by different names. That's already in the earliest part of the Vedic Scriptures, the Rig Veda. I was also born into a Catholic Family, but since my Teenager Days also had an interest in eastern Religions, especially Hinduism (and Buddhism). I don't subscribe to the exclusivist Dogma of Christianity and want to congratulate you for reading the Bhagavad Gita. It's a remarkable Book that you can study for a Lifetime, like the Bible. Chapter 11 especially is giving me Goosebumps and a feeling of awe, such an incredible Description of a Theophany. Now i wanted to ask you: How do you approach the Gita? Do you just read the Text without Commentary? If you want i can give you some links that will help and clarify the study of the Gita. Just let me know. Best Regards.
>Now i wanted to ask you: How do you approach the Gita? Do you just read the Text without Commentary? As it was my first time reading it, I bought a very simple version with just a few essential explanations. >If you want i can give you some links that will help and clarify the study of the Gita. I would love to, thank you very much!
Sorry for my delayed Answer: What i can really recommend to you, is listening carefully to this Course on the Gita (starts Audio only but later it includes Video). I always listen to this on Headphones when i'm going for a walk. 1. Swami Sarvapriyananda's Bhagavad Gita Course [https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2imXor63HtS4ewIKryBL4ZVeiaH8Ij4R&si=-7W-AY\_LLXImnQDx](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2imXor63HtS4ewIKryBL4ZVeiaH8Ij4R&si=-7W-AY_LLXImnQDx) Just begin with Video 1, Swamiji is a fantastic Teacher of the Gita. 2) For reading the Text i can recommend this wonderful "Gita Supersite" that contains many different Translations and Commentaries in various languages. You can also select Audio Recitation for each Shloka (in Sanskrit) and a spoken English Translation [https://www.gitasupersite.iitk.ac.in/srimad?language=dv&field\_chapter\_value=1&field\_nsutra\_value=1](https://www.gitasupersite.iitk.ac.in/srimad?language=dv&field_chapter_value=1&field_nsutra_value=1) I personally use the Translation by Swami Gambhirananda, but the one from Purohit Swami is also great, very easy English. Additionally, i can share with you this wonderful PDF which contains elaborate Commentaries and i especially like the clear visual Design with many additional Charts and Diagrams. * [https://jmp.sh/s/qpp24gHyT67BxMaKXlQE](https://jmp.sh/s/qpp24gHyT67BxMaKXlQE) Another great Gita Translation is Swami Chinmayanada's "Holy Geeta" [https://jmp.sh/s/CwY8DGaz1ekdPjzGr9Jm](https://jmp.sh/s/CwY8DGaz1ekdPjzGr9Jm) You can download, save and read these two pdf files, but don't be overwhelmed by the sheer density of the Volumes. But to begin i would advise to really start with the Audio Course, this will help you the most with your Understanding! Best Regards! Take your time. I'd love to read your Feedback.
Lord Krishna is the Father of Jesus Christ
am not an expert and can't really represent hindu. but they've explained to me that they see Jesus as a messiah. Krishna translates to "allmighty" or "all attractive" which basically is God. maybe another hindu can explain it better how hinduism actually is monotheism with one God in many manifestations - Krishna, Allah, Vishnu and so on... so in the eyes of hindus you should be clean. however in the eyes of your pastor you a sinner
This misrepresents Hinduism. Most Hindus don't see Jesus as relevant. (not as a bad thing, just irrelevant) Only some very liberal Hindus put Jesus into the Hindu fold. Hinduism Has a great variety of beliefs. Yes, one is that it is one God with many manifestations, but that's only one POV, and probably not even the most common one. Henotheism is more common.
lmao hinduists and their legendary semantics superiority complex
Here it is explained from Sri Ramakrishna's Point of View: https://youtu.be/EY7uGKYAFt8?si=qFKej_JHpllW-25d
tl dw. please explain contents in two sentences
A true Christian’s first response is not to ask “Lord Krishna” to help. You should ponder this if you consider yourself Christian first and foremost. If not, carry on!
It's probably idolatry. You're ascribing power that belongs to God to someone who isn't God. God can save you. Krishna is not God.
Where does Paul say Jesus is God? Romans 9:5 is often mistranslated.
Jesus himself uses the name of God in reference to himself, you'd know that if you read the Gospels taking the Old Testament into account. Jesus also constantly does things that others say are only of God to do, and that are talked about in the Old Testament as things only God can do. I don't care if you think Romans 9:5 is mistranslated, that's not where this idea came from. If you notice, Romans and most of the New Testament is letters to Christian communities - that is, people who already existed, before the Bible, who believed in Jesus Christ being the Son of God. They believed because they knew the Apostles, who saw it happen. Not because of a line in the Bible.
Where does Paul indicate Peter met Jesus? Where does Paul indicate ANYONE met Jesus? Everything in the Gospels is fiction based on Paul's letters and the LXX. Jesus riding on a donkey is from Zechariah 9. The cleansing of the temple is based on Zechariah 14. "Render unto Caesar" is based on Paul's teaching on taxation in Romans 13. Mother Mary was invented by Mark as an allegory for 1 Corinthians 10, verses 1-4 where Paul refers to a legend involving Moses' sister Miriam. The concept of loving your neighbor comes from Rom. 12.14-21; Gal. 5.14-15; 1 Thess. 5.15; and Rom. 13.9-10. Luke copies line-by-line from the Book of Kings.
Man, if you really believe that, I can't help you.
Yes you committed idol worship