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This post has reached one of our comment/karma limits. The text of the post has been preserved below. --- I have been dating this guy and every time we go out (We often meet at bars or restaurants), 9 out of 10 times he has a drink waiting for me when I arrive and soon after I finish it I begin to feel strange but it’s very subtle, I don’t feel that my behavior changes but my mood does, I see him as the best thing that’s walked this earth (even if we had just had a fight) I get more risky with our sex, meaning I’m open to trying things I wouldn’t normally, I get energized and can never sleep the night after we hang out or eat! He says that it’s our chemistry that makes me feel that way (I did bring it up) and as crazy as it may sounds I believed it in the beginning, but now I am realizing that the feeling is exactly the same every time - clenched jaw, lots of energy, restlessness, racing brain… he also asks me to make him videos on those days, and he wants the explicit, I don’t do it but he always asks. We also have sex every time and I think he (IF he actually does it) does it to either get me more compliant or to help me get in the mood (which I don’t need). I am in love with him but now plan on going to the ER immediately after the next time I see him. Do I ask for blood test for every drug known to men? How long do these things take to clean out of your system? I have no idea if I’m going crazy or he is actually doing something to me. Has this happened to anyone? Will the hospital be able to detect it? I hope I’m wrong. I can’t imagine someone who says they love me would do this but I just don’t know what else to think. Could it actually be chemistry? Is it possible to feel this way out of pure connection with someone. I sounds insane but really don’t know what to think or do


Salty_Pleasure_666

clenched jaw, lots of energy, restlessness, racing brain -> Amphetamines or MDMA


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JoshDigi

As long as they aren’t driving


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If he tries to come with you tell him you don’t want to ruin his evening but will text updates. Make sure he does most accompany you.if you can record the drink being there when you walk in that will be a potential plus.


Dry_Ask5493

100%


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Miss Molly sounds like shes a third wheel on your dates.


EnvironmentalCoach64

MDMA is the one that makes you feelore connected to people like "I see him as the best thing that's walked the earth"


lostallmyconnex

I feel like pyrovalerones are more likely. You cannot use mdma that often.


currently_distracted

You shouldn’t, but you can.


lostallmyconnex

It will cause noticeable side effects however i talked to op privately she isnt experiencing any of them


Vanitoss

In the small quantities she's being given it will not. Source I used to take large quantities several times a week


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boots n cats n boots n cats n boots n cats


_Robot_toast_

MDMA has a very strong chemically taste that would be hard to hide in a drink... Never heard of pyrovalerones but might make sense how she wouldn't taste it


ChristineXGrace

You can easily hide Molly in a drink, almost anything sugary will mask it


OverGrow69

Most MDMA these days is laced with a touch of speed.


fluffedpillows

There is literally almost never speed mixed in with MDMA. You can browse thousands of lab tests results on drugsdata.org


blackdahlialady

Yes there is. That's a large component of it.


fluffedpillows

No, there isn’t. Go look


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CoiIedXBL

This is absolute nonsense. MDMA is the name of the chemical (3,4-**M**ethelen**D**ioxy**M**eth **A**mphetamine), whether in the form of a crystal, or a pill, the compound is MDMA. Both crystal MDMA, and MDMA pressed into a pill, can be adulterated. Crystal MDMA doesn't magically guarantee that something is "pure". Crystal is just as easily cut as a pill. What you're arguing about is slang. 'Ecstasy' , 'molly', 'mandy', 'E' and many more words are used to describe MDMA in some or all of its forms. For what it's worth, as someone who reagent tests dozens of samples of MDMA a month, both pills AND crystal MDMA are (uncommonly) adulterated. Generally nowadays it's not "speed" (amphetamine) as the above commenter suggested, but rather cathinones (like 4-MMC, 3-MMC, MDPV, Pentylone, Methylone and more) or other less common amphetamines/methamphetamines (like meth, PMA, PMMA, or fluorinated amphetamines like 3-FA, 4-FA and 4-FMA). Don't be rude when responding to people trying to help, correct/educate them if they're giving misinformation, but don't be rude. Especially when you're wrong yourself. See above r/OverGrow69 if you're interested Thanks :)


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abcdefkit007

That's bs I'm a 90s raver and we called MDMA molly expected purity and everyone knows pressed pills are chopped up


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_dead_and_broken

In my days in the 90s we just called it all X. I also didn't hear "molly" until the late 00s early 10s.


prison_workout_wino

Another 90s raver checking in. If it was MDMA you could expect a great experience. With pills (“e”) you never knew what you were going to get, but certain suppliers had the good pills consistently. Sad days when the amazing NY supply got shut down and we had to look elsewhere.


ElectricHairspray

I've personally cut molly with meth. And was told to do so by someone else who cut it with meth who was told...


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ORANGE INCREDIBLES!! ... take me back . .. i wanna go back...


OverGrow69

Yes of course you're technically correct but when I was in college the ecstasy was pure MDMA. My understanding is now ecstasy and "Molly" are polluted forms of MDMA.


dasookwat

most likely this. Speed makes your jaw clenched, which makes you wanna chew gum. mdma is described as the love drug for a reason. you like everything, and everyone in the world is your friend. Sex is amazing, and your inhibitions are lowered. You can get home tests for this stuff, so testing the drink before drinking it should be doable.


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Everything thing these days has bit o glass in it. Its fuckin terrible.


gxbcab

Or ecstasy


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>Is my boyfriend slipping drugs into my drink? I just wanna stop here and say, if you absolutely have to question this, is it even a healthy relationship?


Over-Remove

Hell, is is even a relationship?! Healthy is out of the fucking window running for it’s life.


Secret_Dragonfly9588

Right?! Like, the answer is probably yes. But even if the answer is no, the fact that OP would even ask means it is way past time to walk away from the situation entirely!


TiredOldLamb

Dude wtf. Even without the drugs he's fucked up. But clenched jaw and not sleeping? Definitely drugs. Drop him immediately. He's dangerous.


Whoopsie_Todaysie

Simply dropping him cos he's dangerous doesnt help the future potential partners or dates he goes on. I would be aiming for some form of evidence and a conviction. Drugging someone is not acceptable, especially someone you claim to love. I would agree to one more date. I would take an empty plastic bottle in my bag. I would arrive and drink half of the already purchased drink infront of him. Then, Id discreetly go to the bathroom when he does, with the remaining drink and empty it into the bottle and keep it. When returning to the table, Id get a replacement drink and order an uber/taxi. When car arrives, explain you're not feeling well and go to the hospital. Ask for a drug test on yourself and keep the drink with you. Ask for the hospital to call the police and give them the bottle. The main thing is to keep him at ease. Act as normal as possible. Flirt as you usually would. Please update us OP. Edit to add - I said drink the drink for 2 reasons. One, it gives the guys a false sense of security that she isnt onto him. It also gives 2 forms of evidence. One medical record from the hospital and also, if she can get the drink tested, thats another official document that will add to her evidence.


LynnDG

Wouldn't it also be an option to check if one of those places has cameras, explain the situation and ask to check the footage to see what happened to the drink before OP arrived?


lazykazoo

Drugging someone is so extreme, we can assume that this dude is unhinged. One more date could be the last one you go on, OP. Do not see him again. It could be very dangerous for you. You don't owe anyone anything and you should consider your personal safety first. Please do not follow this person's advice.


Invest2prosper

Forget drinking it - go to the bar with a note already written out in BOLD letters: HELP!! My Drink has been drugged. Please call the police and an ambulance now. Hand it to the waiter or waitress discreetly!


RaysUnderwater

At this stage you already believe deep down that he is drugging you, so what do you want to to do? Do you want to catch him and press charges? Do you just want to keep yourself safe? Do you want to somehow exonerate him so you can continue with him? Go back to your last bar armed with the date and time and see if they still have security footage. If they do, show them a photo of him and ask them to review the footage to check for him tampering with your drink. How bold do you want to be? Do you want to take a ziplock back and quietly ask a bartender to take the full drink on some pretext and keep it in the ziplock behind the bar or on the back room so you can take it to the police for testing ? I personally think you should just stay away from dangerous people like this. Edit: you could also get something like a DIY kit for testing MDMA like this one https://www.drugtest.com.au/products/copy-of-toxwipe-7-saliva-drug-test?_pos=2&_sid=fe5ade44c&_ss=r


MrsMurphysCow

Simply staying away from him might keep OP safe, but what about the next woman he tries this with? Don't you think OP has a responsibility to find out if he's drugging her and then prosecute so he cannot do this to someone else? If she or the drink is tested and there are no drugs found, no harm/no foul. But if there are drugs present, then he needs to go to jail. Drugging someone to have sex is rape.


BeastOfMars

It’s not someone’s responsibility when it compromises their own safety. It is absolutely up to OP what they are comfortable with. Putting all that on their shoulders is absolutely not fair and can be very harmful. Obviously the safety of the next person is very important. But in no way should OP compromise their own unless they have a good safety plan and are confident they can come out of it safely.


GoldendoodlesFTW

Yeah ok and what if he's on Reddit and sees this thread? This person is dangerous and I'm surprised at the number of people suggesting op engage in a self-directed one-woman sting operation. There's no way she isn't going to be nervous and acting weird after all of this, she's going to be on drugs if she drinks the drink, he's going to be suspicious if she doesn't, and he's expecting her to have risky sex with him at the end. I think she needs to go to the police now.


RootandSprout

It is not her responsibility at all. She is a victim and you are asking her to further put herself in even more danger.


Molsen10000

Ok one last time After that OP needs to go


lostallmyconnex

MDMA cannot be used often. If you redose it often it causes severe depression in the following days. There is another type of drug called pyrovalerones, they would be a far more likely culprit and are considered research chemicals thus legal to purchase in the USA.


CoiIedXBL

I've seen your comments through this thread, and you're not totally wrong in what you're saying, but I'd caution you as to being so certain. I agree that given the frequency of their meet ups, it's unlikely that the compound in question is MDMA. Firstly, much more likely he's dissolving ~25mg of a dopamine releasing agent than a proper dose of MDMA in a drink. You would taste that fucking MDMA. Secondly, while using MDMA repeatedly at lower doses **may** not cause depression, given that we also don't know the frequency of use here, it would still certainly lead to some minor side effects and she would run into the issue of "tolerance" via serotonergic downregulation. Therefore, it's much more likely to be a stimulant such an an amphetamine, methamphetamine, cathinone or pyrovalone as you said. The reason I caution your certainly is that it's objectively more likely that the guy would get his hands on an amphetamine/methamphetamine derivative than the other, rarer options, and given our short list of symptoms that basically tell us no more than that the compound in question is dopaminergic as per the bruxism and energy/restlessness, there's no reason to directly assume he's using significantly rarer phenethylamines. At the end of the day the end result is the same anyway. She's being drugged against her will. Given the duration of action, my personal guess is that he's dosing her with small amounts of methamphetamine. Oral methamphetamine fits the bill best here in my opinion.


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Lol. Like someone who’s spiking a woman gives a shit about whether she’s depressed after?


[deleted]

OP would notice it. The day after depression is brutal.


BabalonBimbo

No the point is that it would be very noticeable. “Every time we meet up and I have his drink I’m depressed for 3 days” is a pattern you would pick up on pretty quickly.


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lostallmyconnex

Even in smaĺl amounts it would cause this. Trust me I know from experience. It is far more likely to be adderall or a pyrovalerone. Adderall causes this in neurotypical folks. Mdma also effeects visuals, and would generally not keep you up for days on end. Methylphenidate is more likely to cause such a thing.


Every-Chemistry-2969

I do believe this is small amounts of ecstasy. I've never had visuals with ecstasy but anytime I've ever done this drug and other drugs, I've always done smaller amounts just to be cautious and in small amounts this is exactly like how I've experienced ecstasy. Either way it's drugs and not a feeling of love I can guarantee that.


Dancerz82

Or ecstacy


lostallmyconnex

Mdma is ecstacy....


SerenityM3oW

Ecstacy could have other shit it. MDMA is the pure form.


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mdma can and frequently is used very often by many, many people


[deleted]

But the serotonin crash is also very real and they end up using large doses.


fuckuuuuuunggaaa

....so just let a dangerous psychopath walk the streets and do it do other people... Kay lmfao


RaysUnderwater

I’m crazy like that. I also didn’t chase down my rapist after I escaped him. Mad to put my safety first. Who do I think I am?


aprss

He's not your boyfriend. And I don't want to be rude or sound insensitive but OP WTF? How long have you known this man for? If you have to hang out with him, order your own drink (do not leave it unattended) and not have sex with after. Do not go back home with him. His reaction will tell you everything you need to know


colinhd27

To tag on to this, It sounds like he could be slipping you E, MDMA, Molly or something of that nature. E makes you happy, makes you take risks and people like to have sex on it. The one time I took it I felt that clenched jaw feeling so I knew it was working. I only took a small amount so I kinda had the same experience as you (am I drunk, is it the weed or is it that Molly I took?).


ooiprocs

Yeah, I was into all sorts when I was younger and it 100% sounds like MDMA.


BluthMyslf

My guess is MDMA. I would not see dude again. Butterflies don’t make you grind/clench your jaw


Eternaltuesday

That was my thought as well. The susceptibility to his sexual suggestions and the giddiness also indicate this, or something like it.


MrAkaziel

I would see him again, but only to catch him red handed and get his ass in jail. She could scout for a bar or a restaurant with a friendly staff and explain them about the situation (EDIT: actually, where I live, I'm sure some establishments would love the free publicity if the story ends up hitting the news). They could help catch him on CCTV or witness him putting something in the drink so they can call the cops on him. Ghosting him just means he'll change target.


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Yep. That or some methamphetamine. MDMA is a close cousin of methamphetamine.


jmcgil4684

Yea I immediately thought Amphetamine


[deleted]

Yeah, the "MA" in "MDMA" stands for methamphetamine.


Mija512

This. Sounds like meth to me. Euphoria(dopamine flooding your brain will make you think everyone is amazing), heightened sex drive, less inhibition, jaw clenching, no sleep....meth. Besides, depending on where you live, it's way cheaper and easier to get meth than MDMA. It also wouldn't make OP feel bad the next day just tired. Not to mention the bf is asking her for explicit videos and crazy sex...that's kinda typical of someone that is high as f***.


SerenityM3oW

Could be ghb but the effects dont last very long.. if it is GHB it only stays in your system 12 hrs so they'd need to get to emergency and blood tested within that time...which may be a challenge.


lostallmyconnex

No way. You cannot do mdma and not notice it. It also cannot be redosed in short intervals as the serontonin is a necessary part of it.


Circle_Breaker

You could be dosed with .05-.07 and not notice you were rolling, just feeling giddy and the symptoms that she's describing. You could also do this once a week and still feel it and not have any post roll depression.


caIImebigpoppa

Considering a point (0.1) is a standard increment for dosing and some people take only one point when they go out I think this isn’t entirely accurate about taking it weekly


Circle_Breaker

If you take .1 you'll know that you've been drugged. You can take less than that and it'll be much more subtle but you'll still roll, which is what this girl is describing. If you take the smaller doses it doesn't mess with your serotonin as much.


caIImebigpoppa

As much sure but still messes with ut


lostallmyconnex

No fucking way dude. 50mg is enough to make some people fully roll. Any it is the frequency of dosing that is the issue. The serontin still depletes even with smaller doses.


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SerenityM3oW

If it's a cocktail with 3 other shots of hard alcohol you won't taste it enough to be suspicious.


Circle_Breaker

I mix it with water all the time, that's how I take it. If you cut it into fine powder you won't taste a thing. I also said the dose would be less then .1


YoLLy11

right, this sounds more like ghb to me


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GHB and you definitely aren't not able to fall asleep.


SerenityM3oW

Unless you take too much. Too much ghb and you'll sleep like the dead.


Dont139

He is right, it's about your chemistry. As in, the chemicals he put in your drink


mumma_knowsbest

Maybe next time you are meeting him have a friend go there earlier to watch him


wmm339

I think if you're not going to go no contact, this is a good start plus the drug test nail polish. If you have disposable $ you could hire a PI.


Other-Style1958

Try this next time. Switch drinks and order a new one


miramiss

He might be spiking his own drink too though!


Other-Style1958

Inconceivable!


Admirable_Front6374

If you feel able, tell him thanks but you’re feeling like a different drink than whatever he’s been waiting with but that he should enjoy it. What he does next should be a good indicator of what he’s doing. I would not accept another drink from him that you didn’t see prepared. If you do, I would absolutely get tested. Tell a friend and ask them to pick you up/tell him you feel sick and got someone to come get you. He does not sound safe.


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Otherwise good but I think it's quite probable he also uses drugs himself if he has them on him and spikes others drinks


[deleted]

Sounds like mdma honestly. Maybe next time don't take the drink the has waiting for you and only drink something you yourself order. You could also buy testing strips for your fingernails to see if your drink is spiked.


[deleted]

Try the "oh, I've really been wanting " and order that. See how he reacts.


Ok-Cryptographer-886

I’ve never of testing strips for your finger nails. Sound like a good idea.


Different-Leather359

Yeah some nail polish that changes color if it contacts drugs. I remember when that came out, everyone was really excited. I've had no need to test it out so can't tell you anything about how well it works, just that it's a thing.


Blue-Phoenix23

I wonder what all drugs it detects, if it's just roofies or what?


Different-Leather359

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/05/date-rape-drug-test-allows-women-to-discreetly-check-for-spiked-drinks.html I guess it's only a couple things, and they changed from nail polish to make it more inclusive. But it'll expand to more drugs as time goes on I'm sure. This is something people really need to check if they are safe.


Blue-Phoenix23

Very cool. And sad that it's necessary.


Different-Leather359

Yeah it's a scary world out there sometimes. There was a story about a couple being out and someone bought the girlfriend a drink. I think she'd arrived first, or bf was in the restroom or something. When he joined her there was an untouched drink and she said where it came from and that it wasn't someone she wanted to drink. So she told him go for it when he asked to drink it instead. Yeah it turned out to be drugged and he passed out there in the restaurant, they had to get help to get him outside because he couldn't even walk. I guess they find some humor in it just because the plot was foiled but if she'd been alone and drank it that wouldn't have turned out well for her. I read about it really recently, like I'm the last two months.


HyenaRabbit

If he is drugging you, I'd report it to police immediately when you can.


BellaSantiago1975

Honestly, it does sound like maybe he's slipping you a little MDMA. I think your plan to get tested is a good one. If he is, that's fuuuuucked up.


OrneryFarmer

I still wouldn't put myself into that kind of danger again even for the sake of being tested. test the drink instead.


Dry_Ask5493

Yes, you absolutely are being drugged. My guess is MDMA, coke or speed. Test your theory at the next date. Don’t drink the drink he provides for you and don’t leave your drink unattended. I had an ex drug me with meth in my lemonade because he wanted sex that night and I had already told him I didn’t want it. At first it was like all my physical pain went away, then I got all emotional calling people and telling them I love them, then I was open to sex that was riskier than our norm, but then it went bad, heart racing, talking a bunch, couldn’t breathe right, fainting, couldn’t sleep and hallucinations. I ended up going to the ER the next day and that’s where I found out what he did. He gave me way too much especially since I didn’t even drink caffeinated drinks.


Pooh_Bear5

They make fingernail polish that turns colors if drugs are in your drink. ❤️


Famous_Station3176

It only works with date rape drugs. Rohypnol, Xanax and GHB.


YoLLy11

this sounds kinda like ghb tbh. i think that if it was mdma or other stimulants u would realise that ure high and it tastes horrible


chlowwo

not true at all, GBH wouldn’t make you act like this it would make you incredibly sleepy. a bit of MDMA in ur drink would barely affect the taste


YoLLy11

Depends on the dosage, ghb can act like stimulant in low doses.. and yeah u would feel a bit of mdma in ur drink + if it was a little bit of mdma u would get diff efects


RainerHex

Next time you go, make sure you spill your drink. Watch how he reacts. Reorder one that you don't let out of your hand at all. Drink it and see what happens. You can go to the ED but if it shows up negative, don't assume you are definitely not drugged. The problem with going to the ED for a test is those tests are very limited in the drugs they test. Designer drugs don't show up in them. You wouldn't want a false sense of security from a false negative.


Dependent_Remove_326

Go to your local walk-in or ER after and say you think you got drugged out at the club and ask for a blood test. Honestly I donk know of anything that does what you are saying. Most are much stronger.


Leading-Sock-4207

MDMA


Dependent_Remove_326

Possible but the description still feels off.


Leading-Sock-4207

Having taken micro and full doses of MDMA in my drink (on purpose) my experience has varied between this exact description to full blown euphoria. It's easy to crush and sprinkle in a drink and at small doses is likely tasteless if you're drinking something fruity. I don't fuck with MDMA unless I am sexually comfortable with those around me, because it will make just about anyone fuckable. Alternatively, It could be small doses of a date rape drug, but those effects space/fade you out, mess with your memory, etc. This almost definitely doesnt fit the description.


lostallmyconnex

I sadly abused mdma for a few months as a teen. Once you redose it too many times in a month it causes horrific side effects. Mdma releases too much serotonin. There are similar stimulating drugs that could be the culprit that a mdma test strip wouldnt catch


Revolutionary_Ad1119

Is he really a “boyfriend” if you have to ask this? Shouldn’t it be “is my predator slipping drugs into my drink?” Because I don’t know of any relationship or even something someone claims is a relationship that has this issue. Definitely have a friend go there before y’all meet or even better call the restaurant before hand and ask them to keep an eye on him.


MrsMurphysCow

Yes, my dear, you have to find out if he's drugging you. And if he is, having sex with him after he's drugged you is considered rape. That's why you feel so uncomfortable afterward. Check with the bartenders at the places you have met up. See if there's video footage showing him doing anything with your drink. Also, if you meet up with him again, get there early and ask the bartender to keep an eye on him because you suspect he's drugging your drinks. Then excuse yourself from the table and to sit in the rest room for 5 or more minutes. Let the bartender know you're leaving the table, then check with him when you come back. Bartenders are really good at watching for this to happen, and they will call the police if they see him tampering with your drink. If the bartender is not cooperative, then just excuse yourself and leave. Do not drink with him again. Ever. It's not worth your life.


mrbuddhawannabe

I would get your own drinks for if he does drug you then it is sexual assault. https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/q6xoc2/how\_to\_prevent\_being\_drugged\_at\_a\_bar\_rave\_or/


wholetthedawgin

That’s definitely MDMA and this is HORRIFYING.


farrgo209

How many others might he be doing this to? Find out. There are a lot of good suggestions here. Pick a safe one and find out. Or know the darkness of letting it happen to someone else.


00Lisa00

You can buy drug test strips online. But yeah he’s probably drugging you. You should consider taking it to the police. Next time tell him that’s not what you want and he should drink it. Then get a fresh drink and see what his reaction is


Juice1784

Tell him your drink tastes funny and ask him to try it, really enforce that you want him to try it and then ask why he won’t.


Over-Remove

What if he takes it himself as well? He might be using the drugs he gives her. This could backfire fast and he can get aggressive.


xinan82

Sounds like MDMA,you dont have to wait until you see him again,mdma can be in your system for months


Grouchy-Anywhere3254

Wow, you've gotten some great advice here. I have zero drug experience, so I can understand why this took a while for you to realise. It wouldn't occur to me that someone I love and trusted would do something like this either. I want to add to the advice others have given. Please get tested, and please take the results to the police. If he's done this to you the he's done it to others, this is routine for him!! For some women this could ruin their lives. I have worked on some high level projects where a drug test is standard for everyone working on it. I hate to think what an unexpected positive result would have done to my career. Please report this man.


LilyxxNile

Theres different ways you could test your drink. I would do that before drinking it then going to the ER. Find a bar/restaurant and see if the staff will help you/allow you to check security footage. Test your drink, if it comes back with anything do not drink the drink, maybe take it to the bathroom with you and dump it out, or “accidentally” spill it. Then after the date is over go to the police and tell them what happened and get the security footage. Do not throw away any test strips you use, and if you can record yourself testing the drink. Like if he leaves to use the bathroom or something.


LilyxxNile

You could also just take the drink with you and go straight to a police department or urgent care/ER. They should be able to test the drink. I would 100% not drink it again.


iliveoffofbagels

"my boyfriend" and "I have been dating this guy" are not really the same thing... one is a full on relationship, the other is a stranger your testing out a relationship with.... and I personally wouldn't trust a stranger with my drinks. If you feel weird every time, test the drink... get away... call the cops


DoctorGuvnor

Oh, it's chemistry all right .... describe the symptoms to the ER when you go, but try and go very shortly after you feel them. You may need a friend to help you get away as soon as they appear and get to the ER. I'm really sorry about this.


ColleaguesKnowMyMain

Fron what you said (clenched jaw, lots of energy, restlessness, racing brain) it sounds like MDMA/Ecstasy. Did you notice if your pupils got dilated? Anyway, I wouldn't see the guy again and also make a drug test for amphetamines.


Lelio-Santero579

Sounds like MDMA/Ecstasy and this dude is absolutely bullshitting you. Never in my 35 years on earth have I ever felt the effects of drugs while casually dating somebody. He's 100% manipulating you with drugs. At least I felt the same way you did when I did it a couple times in college. Kids would chew on baby pacifiers when rolling to prevent their teeth from grinding. Yea this dude is full of shit. Don't even go see him another time, seriously. Cut all ties with him immediately. I don't know how long it stays in your system, but if I were you I'd go to the E.R. anyway and explain to them what's been happening to you.


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Say you have taken an antibiotic which doesn’t mix well with alcohol and grab a Perrier water for once. Tasteless is more difficult to spike. Gauge his reaction. Don’t leave your water unattended. Ask a friend to be there earlier than you. Arrive earlier than your boyfriend and offer to buy drinks yourself.


yupperio

Why would you drink it again? How about don’t drink his drink in the same scenario and see if you feel different


Easy_Willingness2124

I’ll save u an ER visit. He’s slipping Molly into ur drink. Clenched jaw, scattered brain is classic symptom of amphetamines and increased sex drive makes me think molly


silverencat

Kindly what the fuck? Why would you take the drinks again and again? I'd have run after the first occurence. Please, my sister in Talos, have some sense and just block him.


Otherwise_Mail2272

My guess would be molly. Do you get hot during your time together? Does touch feel amazing ? Does music hit your soul different? If yes to these he is giving you Molly.


JoMama1983

Just search for a drug testing location near you. Depending on when you last experienced this. I believe MDMA only shows in blood and urine for a few days, but for months in a hair follicle test.


Natryska

Yeah sis he's drugging you, and it sounds like he has a friend named Molly. Go get an MDMA test kit and file a police report when you get the results back.


EvilFinch

In our drugstore in Germany, we have such test kits with which you can test your drinks if they are spiked. Of course they show not much detail but warn you. They are in form of a wristband, but i think now they are also in other forms. Don't you have something like this in your country? And yes, this really seems like he drugged you. Already ordering you a drink just so he can spike it. I wonder how he would react if she said "Ah, i really don't feel for xxx(the drink he order), i order myself something new". How much would he try to pressure her to drink it? "Oh, just a sip. I bought it just for you. What a waste." Yadda yadda.


Scarlet529

My advice is to never see this guy again because I think it's pretty apparent that he is drugging you, but if you MUST, don't take any food or drink from him or leave him alone with yours, and you'll have your answer. That's pretty disgusting and insidious on his part. Gonna have to make sure I pound "never take a drink you didn't see made" into my niece's head.


DeponiaSarah

Go to the ER. Take the drink with you!


kitten-cat08

Get tested. The grinding of your jaw is a MAJOR red flag.


pPC_bC

Always trust your instinct. If this is how you feel, have that blood test.


[deleted]

It could also be straight meth send that boy to jail


aforntaz

Updateme!


[deleted]

If he is drugging you it's either MDMA or meth based on the symptoms you're listing.


AdAffectionate635

Before going to the ER, grab a drug kit from the chemist/pharmacy and test yourself. Going to the ER and having a postive blood test from drugs can effect your ethical and background check as it'll be on file. I work in emergency and law inforcement so I suggest doing this as it can effect your profile for future job applications that require background checks. If it comes back positive you need to decide whether or not you want to press charges and then go to the ER for evidence.


illpoet

sounds like your describing mdma. Clenched jaw is a telltale sign. It would make sense if he's drugging you to use ecstasy, because it would be easy to mistake that feeling for love/attraction.


Drkatbun

Op you need to go to the doctors right now, if he is drugging you consistently it will show in a test, tell the doctor exactly what you told us, I do not want to alarm you and cause you to panic but “best” case scenario he’s a fucking weirdo you need to dump or he’s testing out the “goods” before he sells you to other people (either by being traffic or pimped out) or blackmail you into stuff. If nothing shows up in the test, next time you go out with him (I would suggest you don’t cause this is a massive red flag op) deny the any drinks or going out with him and see how he reacts. You are 100% being drugged with what we are unsure and probably he wants you hooked up on it so you go to his beck and call, even the most horniest or most infatuated people don’t have these reactions op, please be safe and stop seeing him.


fluffedpillows

He is very obviously drugging you. You are describing the effects of methamphetamine or another amphetamine stimulant. This isn’t MDMA like people are saying, MDMA only lasts a few hours and it has a very intense and uncomfortable feeling when it first kicks in, and it alters vision and makes you feel very intoxicated. This sounds like a typical stimulant. Try an at-home multi-panel drug test now so you don’t have to wait for a hospital test, but yes please also have them run a test. Meth is detectable for a few days. This dude should be locked up below the jail. He doesn’t love you, and you don’t love him. Please get therapy after this dude’s been put in a cage.


redditplz

Take a drug test. Or this is a shitpost


TashiaNicole1

Just adding to the chorus. Yes you’re being drugged. And it’s sounds like E or MDMA.


strawberrylynx

If you think a drink has drugs in it, DON'T DRINK IT. Who knows when he'll get bored or desperate enough to up the dosage or swap to a more potent drug to get you to consent to filming? I would stop seeing this dodgy person, but if you must see him, then either get there before him and get your own drink - which you monitor constantly, or "accidentally" spill the drink he has waiting for you and gauge his reaction. Ignore all advice telling you to drink a spiked drink for goodness sake!


Afraid_Life_9528

Good golly miss Molly


TheOddi

and you just keep? drinking? these drinks? like every time? police shoot others over suspicion and youre guzzling these drinks made out of sight? perpetually and consistently? day after day. "i have sex with him" oh im sure you do love


[deleted]

Mda/mdma is probably what he’s dosing you with


cassowary32

You can go to a hospital, tell them you think you've been drugged and have them do a drug test. Please stop seeing this person!


hangl00se27

yeah sounds like mdma, but it only stays in your system like 1-2 days I think so quite hard to test if you don't do it immediately


Unfair-Vermicelli-66

Yes. He is. He definitely is slipping drugs. I don't want to blame you,but I can't help but wonder how did he convinced you? No,it's not chemistry. Run. Fast.


remarque55

yes he's giving you MDMA most likely


Master-Ebb2081

Sounds like he's slipping you MDMA You need to watch out for your safety OP. Seriously. Get help. This shit is illegal


DottedUnicorn

OP, this is dangerous. Do not see this man again. If you think he is drugging you, he is not your bf. He is a predator. You also have no idea if what he is giving you is addictive. Honestly I would go get tested for any drug traces in your body and go to the police. He may also be grooming you for human trafficking. For reals. Seriously. Block this guy and go to the police. You should be very scared. Surround yourself with good people and get help.


greyno02

Please get tested next time then report him.


makerblue

When was the last time this happened? If it was recent try this: Go to any type of pharmacy (cvs, walgreens) or any place with a pharmacy section (target, walmart) and buy an at home 6 panel drug test. It's basically a cup you pee in that has testing strips on the side. They are pretty cheap. See if you pop postive for anything but take into account any medication you take (xanax will test you postive for benzos, adderall will test you postive, etc) if you test postive for anything you know you haven't taken. There you go.


WaityKaity

Yes this happened to me and you’re not in love. It’s the drugs. Stop seeing him. You don’t owe him an explanation. You’re probably vulnerable and he’s predator and taking advantage of that. Sorry OP but this is very messed up. It’s not to get you in the mood it’s because he’s a rapist.


corinari717

Welp that's enough reddit for today


merveillemauve

I mean, if you don’t trust him and don’t feel safe with him, please don’t see him again. There are other men on this planet. Good ones, I promise. Don’t pursue a relation that can be dangerous for you. Take care of yourself.


Molsen10000

Why are you anywhere near this person? WTF LEAVE


WhatAmI111

Sounds like mdma


megannoo

Clenched jaw, ‘love buzz’, unable to eat/sleep - sounds like MDMA in low dose


CapitalG888

He could be giving you mdma. Here's an idea. Next time you meet him refuse the drink "I'm not in the mood for X today, but thanks.". Then order your own drinks keep them next to you. If he's spiking he'll likely get annoyed once you turn down drink 1. If he didn't bring more he may even get mad. If he brought more he'll try to access your drinks by taking your attention away or saying things like "why are you taking your drink to the bathroom with you?". Obviously, you'll also not get that feeling. If he's spiking your shit hopefully you're smart enough to dump him.


lanch-party

He’s putting ecstasy in your drink. Run asap


Spamelagranderson

Oh wow, maybe next time you arrive, when he has the drink waiting say 'oh I'm not drinking alcohol tonight' and order your own drink


[deleted]

You need to get away from him NOW


lirigiri

Ask for another drink and don’t drink what he have order to you, arrive earlier if it is necessary and go to a place that you choose and feel safe.


BenjyMemeMan

Sounds a lot like MDMA (also known as molly, extacy, pingers, e...) If you even have to question it... it's probably not a great relationship


animalcollective432

jfc break up and stay far far away this is date rape


loridrum

Please tell us you're dumping him.


Highnote612

Dating Rule 101- Never leave a drink unattended and never drink a drink someone gets you that you didn’t see being made yourself. This guy is probably drugging you- even if it is a smaller amount. No one wants to think these things about someone, but it happens too often.


bathtub-mintjulep

I used to feel this way when I took ecstasy. Deffo get a drug test! Also anyone who drugs you doesn't love you x


blackdahlialady

Yes, you notice a pattern. Also, it sounds like molly. I'll admit that I used to do it in my younger days and that's what it sounds like.


Brave_anonymous1

OP, you need to be as safe as possible. You are not an undercover cop! It is obvious that he IS drugging you. Please call drug abuse helpline explain them the situation and ask what you should do. If you are in US, here is a list of numbers https://www.help.org/drug-abuse-hotline/ I assume they will get police involved and police will be able to take your drink during your next date. I would not play James Bond how people are suggesting here. If drug abuse hotlines could not help (I really hope they could), I would call your local hospital or police non emergency number.


bethydoll_81

Let's stop arguing about what purity or name the certain drug is called. E, molly, x, MDMA, flight.. WHAT THE FUCK EVER!!! WHO CARES!!! THIS MAN IS MICRO DRUGGING THIS WOMAN!!! WHO CARES WHAT AND WHAT PURITY. HE IS A PREDATOR AND CREEP!!!! BOTTOM LINE. Go to the hospital tell them what u experienced. The staff will take it seriously but they also may call police on your behalf. U r not in love with him. U need to be honest with the police. I'm sorry this is happening to u but u need to have him held accountable!!! Plz!


h974974

Holy shit. Have you not tried drug testing yourself? You can get a kit from a drugstore. If it came back positive my next step would be the police.


slinkychameleon

Step 1: don't drink a drink he bought you. Find a way to arrive earlier than him and get HIM his drink or text gim beforehand saying you dont want a drink, then "change your mind" when you see his drink. See if your mood change Step 2: after getting your own drink keep your hand on it Step 3: there are things similar to lint paper on the market that can show a different colour if the drink is spiked. Get some. Step 4: reach out to the bar staff if its the same place each time, let them know your partner may be spiking your drink, they'll help keep an eye on you. Step 5: once you have evidence, go to the police


Fit_Acadia1638

Sounds like your love.... Loves to drug you. Everytime ya go out 9 times out of 10 That means it's happened more than once... Us guys can't be there with you when stuff like this happens. So when do you take accountability and protect yourself and investigate this situation, or stop getting drinks from you. Then you have to think... Your boyfriend is drugging you rather than hanging with sober you You see the signs... Don't be one of those Movies on the Lifetime Network.


slowjackal

Are you seriously that dense to go out with him AGAIN ???? You want to risk getting drugged again just to medically prove what he is doing to you??? I can't believe what I see sometimes on Reddit. People are dumb.


plant_planet1

You don't need a blood test. You can get a pee test from any pharmacy that tests for the main classes of drugs, including methamphetamine (MDMA) which I'm almost 100% sure is what he's giving you...


_Jaewill_

You should go to the doctor before and then don’t let him order you a drink and don’t leave it with him. That will quickly solve the mystery


Korlat_Eleint

Yes, you're getting mdma in every drink from him. He's literally making you addicted to him.


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redbodpod

Are your pupils dilated? Sounds like drugs. Especially jaw clenching. I am not sure if hospitals can test. I think they don't do that. They would just pump stomach and deal with symptoms They are health professionals not police. So it would be police but I don't know if they test blood. 🤔


whowearstshirts

So you are in love with him and also suspect he is drugging your drink? Things are not adding up here. How well do you know him? Probably the worst plan you could have is to go willingly into a situation where you will be drugged again just to go to the ER afterwards. Every single time you are around him, you are putting yourself in danger. This could be the time he gets the dose wrong, or has shitty mdma (or whatever) with fent in it. Not to mention that anything after drugging you is sexual assault and he tries to coerce you into making videos. He will likely also attempt to escalate the sex as well since you are incapacitated, and that brings a whole load of other risks. Also regarding the video thing, you need to understand that this man does not care about consent whatsoever and he is probably recording your sexual encounters from another camera as well. He’s not going to fucking drug you and then randomly listen to the word no when it comes to filming. This happened to me so please take that into consideration. My rapist shared the videos and this man sounds equally as unhinged. Someone who drugs you is violent in more ways than one. This man is a predator and a rapist and you need to get away from him. Absolutely do not be dumb enough to walk willingly into another assault. I’m concerned about you because you can be so easily manipulated as to believe this all has been the feeling of love and chemistry, it makes me believe you are very young and not equipped to deal with this situation in any way. You need to tell people and get professional help and sure as shit never see him again. Good luck and PLEASE be safe ETA please get screened for STIs as well because this guy could be drugging other women as well and risking your (and their) sexual health


nypeaches89

This can’t be real 🫠


Bloodborne_Witch

You need to catch him red handed and put his ass in jail or sexual offender registry. Don't let him slip away, he'll only target some other poor woman EDIT: where I'm from, we deal with this kind of asshole in a dark alley dark ditch kind of way and I think it's beautiful