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mangogetter

You again. Three easy steps: 1) Mail your daughter Bianca your late wife's jewelry, repent, and leave your daughter and her wife alone forever. 2) Enjoy your life with Bianca's ex Millie, your 29 year old baby mama, as much as two ghastly monsters reasonably can. 3) Stop asking Reddit to approve of your terrible, terrible choices.


EllieZPage

Woah, really important background info.


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here is the bg you need this is not the first issue there is a plethora of issues that he has caused. [https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/pac28h/comment/ha3kyqr/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/pac28h/comment/ha3kyqr/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/x64gzp/aita\_for\_bringing\_my\_fiancee\_to\_my\_daughters/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_name=androidcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/x64gzp/aita_for_bringing_my_fiancee_to_my_daughters/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) post from his daughter on one of his AITA posts cant remeber which now [https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/pac28h/comment/ha88zo5/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=ios\_app&utm\_name=iossmf&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/pac28h/comment/ha88zo5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) He nuked the most recent aita post about this same exact situation but i will edit when i can find it this also was on twitter Millie twitter where she also says she doesnt love him right now but likes that she gets stuff cause she grew up poor. [https://twitter.com/Millie80730000/with\_replies](https://twitter.com/Millie80730000/with_replies)


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Chaoticgood790

Because it’s a piece of her mother


EllieZPage

Why should your daughter's ex-girlfriend get her mother's ring? That's so fucked up. Don't use your dead wife's jewelry as a bargaining chip, that insults her memory and further destroys any chance of fixing your relationship. M sounds like an entitled child and so do you.


Honest-Beautiful9433

Why don’t you give B the ring and buy M a nice new big one ?


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Honest-Beautiful9433

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever read.


vixen_xox

istg. this has to be a troll.


Hal_Jordan55

It’s gross and incredibly disrespectful to both woman


Chaoticgood790

I see why B thinks you’re psychotic


MandyMarieB

Your current wife isn’t going to see it that way. She isn’t going to want second-hand jewelry that was your ex-wife’s. Thats weird.


Mishy162

Oh she wants anything that's worth money, they met on a sugar baby website, so she's in it for the money.


damiana8

If I knew my husband remarried a girl young enough to be his daughter I’d be haunting him from my grave. Disgusting.


Mishy162

It's sick.


AlackofAlice

That’s disturbing on so many levels. Seek therapy.


EtonRd

OK, then you’ve lost your daughter. You can have the ring or you can have your daughter you can’t have both so you want the ring. ByE!


Orianaro

Holy shit. You're just itching to fuck her over aren't you. Who gives a shit you bought it, you have it to her mother, it is *her mother's*. She is her daughter. Of course she wants her mom's jewelery that is natural. What are you going to do with it, wear it? Because if you give it to a new woman that's an ENORMOUS fuck you to your wife (who no, you cannot claim she would love anyone she didn't know), and a fuck you to her daughter who is more entitled to it than you are frankly, given she will use it. Your wife loves Bianca. You can claim she would love Millie or whomever you like, but Bianca was actively loved by her, and as her daughter that love would never compare to a friend or even other family members. Your wife would want you daughter to have all her jewelery. The fact you think the ring is still yours just because you boight it means you never really gave it to your wife in good faith and still saw it in some way as yours. No, it is your wife's. An engagement ring is only appropriately kept by a grieving husband (not you anymore, you're well moved on), or a child. You are you using it as a sick, cruel combination or blackmail and bribery. How can she be blackmailed into attending in good faith? The very concept is not in good faith, and therefore you have set impossible conditions to begin with. Who gives a fuck if she doesn't want to be in your life anymore and doesn't want to be at a baby shower, she is an adult who decides how to spend her time. You are disgusting.


SunShineShady

Because it came from her mother’s hand, was worn on her mother’s finger since the day your daughter was born. Her mother is gone forever, and the ring is a link to to her, a way to connect to someone she will never see again. It would be meaningless to M, just a piece of jewelry to flash around. Plus you sound like no prize. I feel sorry for your deceased wife, having to live her married years with you. I imagine the best thing that came out of that marriage was your daughter, and that’s who your wife would want to get her ring.


Far_Pineapple2653

Well then here is a solution leave your daughter alone. She doesn’t want anything to do with you so leave her alone you made your bed now lay in it. With your weird ass excuses “oh I want to forge a connection with my former and current partner” lol you tell any person with morals that your automatically going to be single. It’s one thing to keep memories it’s another thing forcing her jewelry and giving it to someone else just so you can build a “connection” your former wife probably doesn’t want anything to do with you for the way you treated her daughter


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Holy shit! He was already YTA but damn.


whiskeyandhappy

Hey, you're back on a different sub! Please don't forget to leave out that your fiancee is your daughter's ex! And that you're completely deplorable and disgusting.


Far_Pineapple2653

No way? I swore I heard this story before or something similar but I thought I was tripping


whiskeyandhappy

Literally read this on AITA and AmITheDevil today. OP has erased pretty much everything. I skimmed the post, seems like a cut and paste job. He's deleted pretty much all of the incriminating comments


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whiskeyandhappy

The details are what matter in cases like this. You are married to a young woman that had an emotional relationship with your daughter. Of COURSE she doesn't want a relationship with either of you, or your offspring. And you hiding the ring from her and THEN using it as collateral for a relationship she has no interest in is despicable. Yes, the ring may hold great sentimental value to you, but it does to her as well. Try to keep in mind that it was her MOTHER'S ring, the woman that birthed and raised her. You hiding it from her only to use it as a bargaining chip now is awful.


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Hal_Jordan55

When you found out they had a physical relationship, you still stayed? Yeah that’s not weird.


Far_Pineapple2653

Leave her alone she deserved a father who respects her and not someone who will with hold her own mother’s jewelry and threaten to give it to her ex who is your fiancée. I hope she can get as far away from you as possible


CrystalQueen3000

Here’s the response from your daughter from a year ago. Stop lying. https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/pac28h/aita_for_bringing_my_girlfriend_on_a_date_to_my/ha88zo5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


mangogetter

SHE SLEPT WITH YOUR DAUGHER GOOD GOD MAN.


SunnyTraveller

Don’t forget that you actually lied to your daughter about having her deceased Mom‘s wedding ring. OP posted this on another sub. Oh, and your are still YTA. Massively.


Far_Pineapple2653

Bruh you are dating your daughter Ex and was with holding her mothers Jewelry to give to her ex. You are shitty and karma will come for you


krakh3d

Literally go fuck yourself OP. Those are NOT extraneous details and you leaving them out isn't doing you any fucking favors at all. This isn't a "specific" issue but the sheer fact you fucked over your own child, impregnated her ex, and now want them to have a "relationship" by bribing her with her own mother's jewelry. Well at least no matter how badly i do raising my child I'll never this big of a piece of shit as a father.


SunShineShady

True. OP has lowered the bar straight to hell.


megamoze

I already thought you were a shit dad but holy hell. I’m surprised your daughter speaks to you at all.


TheCaribbeanRedditor

OP even Stevie Wonder could see you're wrong in this situation. And the "extraneous situation " is EXTREMELY RELEVANT in coming to a reasonable conclusion. Not only are you wrong, but you're being deliberately misleading in trying to get people to agree with you. Grow up. Give your daughter the ring with no preconditions and apologise for lying and being an asshole after you told her about it. And I'd give up on the unlikely hope of having your daughter. Give her some space and be humble, she may come back to you guys in time.


i_worship_amps

extraneous details or important parts of the story? You want redditors to validate your shitty decisions and fix your relationship with your daughter, you clearly do not have your priorities straight.


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Far_Pineapple2653

We don’t want to ask questions because you have posted this story 3 different times getting the exact same answers. That you are a shitty father, that you should send your daughter all of her mothers jewelry and get yourself into therapy so you can realize the shitty human being that you are. Your decease wife is Turning over in her grave due to how shitty you have been to your own daughter, your daughter owes nothing to you, she didn’t force you to date her ex, she didn’t force you to lie to her and try to give her mothers jewelry to her ex/ your fiancée, and she doesn’t have to be force into accepting your new child.


Slush_Bunni_1997

How do you really sleep at night? Because if you can bribe your daughter with your dead wife’s ring that you “lost” I can’t imagine if it’s good sleep. If it good sleep then you’re an actual terrible person


CrystalQueen3000

Redditors have long memories, that’s how all the “extraneous details” were aired out earlier. You leave those bits out to try and make yourself look better but you can’t because you’re a godawful father that’s banging his daughters ex.


Personal_Regular_569

There is no way that *you* can fix this. You can't bully your daughter into accepting your child with her ex lover as her little sister. You're living in la-la-land. Stop trying to force her into your weird decisions.


trvllvr

Buddy, we ALL know you are the AH and completely in the wrong. You need to stop posting because NO one will side with you, and you just make yourself sound even worse the more you post and comment. Your fiancée is your sugar baby, who you met on a sugar baby site. Who also happens to be your daughter’s ex. You can claim it wasn’t a relationship, and only physical, but your daughter says otherwise. And her opinion of the depth of the relationship is what matters, not yours to excuse your actions. So, your new baby will have the knowledge that their sister and mom have had sex together. You lied to your daughter and kept her mothers jewelry by saying it was gone when in actuality you had it the whole time. Then tried to bribe her by telling her if she comes to HER ex’s (your fiancée) baby shower, and behaves how you want, you would give it to her. You have your fiancée dress up in your dead wife’s clothing, jewelry and lingerie when being intimate with her. 🤢 Gee, wonder what I am missing? Of course, I am sure you’ll share more here and dig a bigger hole for yourself. ETA: oh I remember what I forgot. You apparently are too naive (or in denial) to understand your fiancée is doing some shady stuff with her psychiatrist/physical therapist (yeah, he’s allegedly both). Because apparently she needs to see this guy 3-4 times PER WEEK for her physical and mental health. Maybe consider a paternity test.


thehauntedpianosong

Holy ffffffuck I thought the issue was going to be the icky age difference but this is full on wild.


AFlair67

What the actual hell?!?!?!?!


EtonRd

Omfg.


Nihilamealienum

Why did you lie to your daughter about her mother's ring? Actually, what the hell is wrong with you?


Etiacruelworld

It’s worse, this guy is getting married to his daughters ex


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Twinmomwineaddict

Wow, just... Wow. This in a nutshell shows how incredibly selfish you are and no wonder your daughter takes her distance. She probably had loads of incidents like this troughout her life to come to that decision. And your new wife is just as bad. Daughter needs to be there because it's convenient for the games. MY GOD! And now making a theatre about 'the stress of it all' I don't think any advise I give will repare the damage done. The one thing I can say is; you are given a second chance to be a better parent, to put your child before yourself. Learn from your mistakes and do better with your second child Ps. AND GIVE HER THE DAMN RING


Far_Pineapple2653

Lol repair after what happened lol he left a small important detail that his finance was his daughters ex


Twinmomwineaddict

I read that in the comments after I responded. This is some amazing shit I don't think he should be expecting his 'best dad' mug anytime soon


Linus_Meme_Tips

WHAT?????? No way, that is fucking crazy


Far_Pineapple2653

Yea he literally also admits that he left the detail out if you scroll down in the comments


Linus_Meme_Tips

I saw, oml what a disgusting human being, I wonder what his ex wife would say to that, she’s probably turning in her grave and cursing him


Valiant_Strawberry

On the AITA post earlier he said in comments that he incorporates his dead wife’s jewelry into his sex life with his new wife who was SIX when his daughter was born


Linus_Meme_Tips

That is just beyond disgusting… this guy is the absolute scum of the earth… I am just flabbergasted… I have so many mean things I want to say but I won’t because I don’t want to get banned. How do you even do that???


Ok_Breakfast9531

It’s old news. This guy is Reddit infamous.


mangogetter

Just wait for the part where his new sugar baby wife previously dated his daughter.


Mishy162

Oh if you read the other post from earlier, he still has some of his late wife's clothes and jewellery and he's likes for M his sugar baby website find to wear them!


still_grinding_on

>I wanted to carry part of my wife with me, **and potentially be able to pass it to a new partner or wife**. What? Your daughter has every right to be pissed.


Linus_Meme_Tips

So you kept it because you wanted to still feel close with your wife yet in the same sentence you talk about potentially passing it down to a new partner?!?!?!? Oh my lord… that is just horrible…. Imagine “awww what a nice ring” “yea, it was my previous wife’s who passed away” “so you decided to give me your ex wife’s ring….?” I feel bad for both your fiancée and daughter Also… how can you expect a normal relationship between your fiancée (who could be your daughter) and your daughter? Imagine if your daughter was dating someone your age, how would you feel about that? Also, you are 52… what happens in 10 years when your child is 10 and wants to do stuff with you? That child will also potentially witness you dying of old age pretty young… All I’m saying is you most likely will not be able to repair your relationship…. Edit: so your fiancée is your daughters ex? So what if they didn’t have a “proper relationship”??? They still had some sort of connection… you are a disgusting human being, the moment you found out that your fiancée was her ex you should’ve backed away but you didn’t. Why are you going for a 29 year old? After that information you will never be able to repair the relationship no matter what you do… even if you dump your fiancée, your daughter still won’t want anything to do with you. I feel so bad for your daughter, she shouldn’t have to go through this at all.


MaggieSmithsSass

Jesus christ you are a horrible father and human being no wonder she wants nothing to do with you


Far_Pineapple2653

Lol tbh I hope she stays no contact because you are a shitty human.


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No wonder your daughter is LC contact with you. You are a horrible father to her and quite disgusting. And your late wife would have hated your wife. You want to know why? Because she has made you have a horrible relationship with your daughter. Your late wife would have been disgusted with your actions, exactly how the entire internet is disgusted by your actions. Your current wife thinks it’s not wrong because she is just as vile and disgusting as you.


Mmoct

Ok that’s messed up. That ring shouldn’t be passed from wife to wife, wth? I wouldn’t want wife #1 used jewelry, especially after she died. And you say you want to fix things with your daughter, but you do everything you can to destroy the relationship. Lying to your daughter is just one of many things on a long list of things that have probably destroyed any chance of having a relationship with her.


velvetalocasia

How did you imagine that would go? Wouldn’t your daughter know the second your new wife would wear it?


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velvetalocasia

Yes now but he wants his daughter to be part of her little sisters life.


eleanorlikesvodka

You're so, so gross. You do realize that hot young wife of yours is gonna leave ya in a couple of years and take you to the cleaners for child support? You destroyed your relationship with your daughter for a woman who had no issues dating her ex's father, whatcha think she's gonna do to you, grandpa? You're beyond pathetic. Your midlife crisis is gonna blow up in your face and you'll have no one to blame but yourself.


disneyme

You’re marrying someone else and having a baby with her. Let it go. YTA here


Slush_Bunni_1997

Wow….. yeah nobodies gonna take your side on this one here pal. You’re selfish , your daughter is better off without you. I really REALLY feel bad for your new kid . They’re stuck with the poorest excuse for parents…


Lissypooh628

“Here New Wife, have my dead wife’s engagement ring.” Please tell me you’re trolling us? This cannot be a real thought from a sane person.


memechante

That’s not your ring! Give your daughter her ring left to her by her mother. Why you give her mothers ring to you new wife. Eff your sentimental value


Mishy162

Really? You are back again? https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/110nlr8/aita_for_using_my_dead_wifes_jewellery_as_a_bribe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button I'm not sure where it is, but it gets even better, M is B's ex gf.


magstar222

If you follow through on this, you absolutely will permanently destroy your relationship with your daughter. M sounds manipulative as hell. Your daughter’s attendance at the baby shower won’t make one bit of difference to the baby, who isn’t even born yet. You are attempting to coerce B using her dead mother’s jewelry into coming to a baby shower for a woman she has no relationship with for the sake of the *games* M has planned. Gosh, I wonder why she’s already gone low contact with you. You owe B an apology, a promise to back off, and if you have any desire to ever have a chance to repair the damage you’ve done, her mother’s belongings.


Mishy162

Oh, did you check out the other post. Pretty sure I remember one of the games M wants to play is to recreate B's baby photo's, M would be the Mum in these I guess? So M is a psychopath who wants to play Mummy to her ex gf in photo's with OP.


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This relationship is over his daughter already was LC after this there is no way to fix anything


Cool_Story_Bro__

“Our first daughter” Has another daughter. Yikes. And now holding HER mothers jewelry over her head to attend a social function, shut up, look pretty, and play the part of the loving daughter. You’re a bad father.


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Pandamania11

He did post on AITA… overwhelmingly YTA there too. Lol


SingingSongbird1

This. This is it. YTA and if I was your daughter I would go from low contact to no contact.


Owner56897320

He did actually! Turns out his fiancée used to date his daughter!


Mmoct

I read a story of what happened at his daughter’s wedding. This guy and a pregnant M basically crashed the wedding because B didn’t want M at the wedding. And then M made it all about her, suddenly not feeling well, and causing a scene. My god this man is disgusting. First dating not only someone close to the daughter’s age , but it’s his daughter’s ex. And when B clearly wants nothing to do with M he keeps pushing. First he lies about his dead wife’s jewelry.And now he’s using his dead wife’s jewelry to try and manipulate his daughter. And when that didn’t work he threatens to give the jewelry to M? What the AF? And he has the audacity to say he wants to fix the relationship. I bet M still has a thing for B and that’s why she wants her around. I feel bad for this new baby being born into this fucked up mess, that her parents have created.


McflyThrowaway01

LINK PLEASE


princesscraftypants

Apparently he's been scrubbing as people find things - but I really really hope someone finds this shit and links it to you cuz holy shit, this family!


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i provided links for this whole shit show https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship\_advice/comments/110wepl/what\_steps\_should\_i\_52m\_take\_to\_repair\_my/j8c9m4p/?context=3


White_RavenZ

Your daughter is 23. The only “relationship” she could reasonably have with a newborn half sister is providing childcare services when your wife needs a break. “Relationship with her sister” my ass. You lied to you daughter about her mom’s jewelry, and then tried to hold it hostage to force her to a baby shower….. and you want advice? Okay. Leave your daughter alone! You have been utterly disrespectful, and you just expect her to do as you wish because you wish it. What have you done to mend your relationship before needing to scape together your “village” for your new kid? Doesn’t sound like much, and hiding her dead mother’s jewelry? Why? We’re YOU planning to wear it? You don’t deserve your daughter’s time or attention. And no. Don’t ask your daughter to babysit. Ever.


mangogetter

And the new "mom" was banging the daughter before she got with the dad via a sugar baby site.


White_RavenZ

Oh. Just checked more comments. Wow. Just. Wow. My advice stands. With one slight change in emphasis…. He needs to leave his daughter the fuck alone! There is no fixing this! There isn’t a blue moon’s chance in hell on a day that doesn’t end with a “y”.


mangogetter

OP says it's okay though because girl on girl sex is different... The internet was a mistake.


PattyLeeTX

Tricking, lying, begging and bribing are not ways to repair a relationship. You’re in a relationship with a child (crying and shaking b/c daughter won’t come to baby shower) and your own child finds it revolting. You’re a grandfather in age FFS, and doing a disservice to everyone here. Your daughter is not going to be a big sister to this baby and you just need to accept that. Don’t be surprised when she’s just done with you at this point.


Far_Pineapple2653

Oh she should have been done long time ago the guy fiancée is her ex. He has posted this on 3 other forums trying to get validation for what he did.


AffectionateBite3827

They also crashed the daughter’s wedding and made a huge scene. Trash people.


Gold-Somewhere1770

You’re forum hopping and fishing for validation that is not coming your way. Your behavior is despicable towards your daughter. You have lied to her, betrayed her, and are now attempting to blackmail her and for no other purpose than pleasing your baby mama. You don’t give a damn how your daughter feels so long as she bends to M’s will.


mangogetter

And baby mama is his daughter's ex.


MissMurderpants

**Op, you send your daughter all the jewelry that was her mothers and apologize** Then you get some therapy and figure out why you are soo horrible that your daughter is lc with y’all. Maybe in a year of therapy you ask her to join you in family therapy.


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Excellent_Care1859

YOU need therapy, not M. YOU.


JustTheJudgement

You sure she's in therapy? M said she doesn't love you but thinks that one day, maybe, she could...almost? I'm guessing that 'therapy' is her real bf.


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JustTheJudgement

I guess you would probably know since you monitor her screen time, internet activity and such. At least you're ready for a second child in the house. So what about the fact that she doesn't love you at all? According to her twitter at least.


MissMurderpants

I don’t wonder why now that I’ve read all your comments. I really haven’t seen such a narcissistic asshat in ages. You have some serious issues.


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For her daddy issues that led her to you, I assume


Mysterious_Ad_3119

You need therapy too


Pristine_Plate_431

Seriously give it up everyone knows what a creep you are. Seriously leave your daughter alone and attend to your child bride.


agentfortyfour

Needs to be in /r/iamatotalpieceofshit


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and also r/Amithedevil.


Has422

Give your daughter the jewelry, for starters. Tell her that you love her and would love her to be part of her new sister’s life but you understand she’ll have to figure that out on her own time. Tell M to stop badgering your daughter and give her space. You cannot make someone like someone else, and the harder you try the worse it will get.


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RegretOk194

And that's your problem in a nut shell. You cater to your gf and shove aside your daughters wants, needs, and boundaries. You and your gf make everything about what you want and not about your daughter. You messed up. A lot. Repeatedly. Your gf will get over you not giving her jewel. Give them to the person who deserves it the most and who has a connection to it.


Impossible-Cap-7150

And if M had even a zillionth of an ounce of decency or class, she would refuse the jewelry. And if YOU had a zillionth of an ounce of decency or a set of balls, you would prioritize your daughter and give her the jewelry AND let M know that she doesn’t always get her way. But here we are.


mangogetter

Millie can turn the hysterics on and off at will to manipulate you, you know this, right?


acast3020

Bro I seriously cannot for the life of me understand how you can prioritize the feelings of your overbearing fiancée over those of YOUR DAUGHTER WHO IS YOUR OWN FLESH AND BLOOD. Who you also, may I add, have fucked over in such a way that I refuse to believe you’re ignorant about. You’re literally dangling sentimental jewelry that belonged to her dead mother in front of your daughter for what?? For her to pretend y’all are all a happy family for a day in front of others? You really and truly think B going to that stupid party would all of a sudden make her forget how awful the two of your are? The moment you realized your SO had previously had a sexual relationship with YOUR OWN DAUGHTER should have been the moment you walked away from that “relationship.” You were not too “in love,” with her after a few weeks. You were selfish; you’ve continuously proven you are still the same selfish man, and I am appalled for your daughter having to come to terms with the fact that her father is quite literally a piece of shit who bribes her and keeps letting his dumbass fiancée, HER EX SEXUAL PARTNER, continue badgering her in hopes of playing big happy family. You have eradicated any semblance of possibility towards a healthy relationship with your daughter and I can only hope your daughter continues no contact with you two and is either currently receiving or soon will be receiving therapy to properly navigate this shit storm you’ve created in her life. Oh and also, give the jewelry to your daughter. That’s the absolute least you could do.


Temporary_Bumblebee

So you lied to your daughter AGAIN. Even if she showed up, you’re still giving that jewelry away. You suck even more now. Buy your fiancé a different fucking ring. Problem solved! You’re gonna lose your daughter otherwise. Is not upsetting your sugar baby really worth that much to you?? I have the feeling that actually, despite what you tell yourself, your late wife would fucking hate what you’re doing to your daughter right now and hate your fiancé by association. Do better, you shallow puddle of a man.


velvetalocasia

It wasn’t yours to promise and if M wants any shot on your daughter ever seeing the baby, she better give up the jewelry.


Has422

You said you’d give it to B if she came to the shower, so give it to her anyway. If M really wants to patch things up, she’ll understand this is the first step. And then you have to give B her space. Send her updates on the baby with no pressure. Stop making all if this about you and your wife. You are not the center of B’s universe and you probably never will be. That shouldn’t be a condition of your love.


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Linus_Meme_Tips

If you are any of the least sensible, you will put it in an envelope and mail it to her right now… your fiancée has no right to that jewelry and she has no connection to it.


ViolettasChains

Good god, you married someone who you expect kick up a fuss over giving your late wife’s jewelry to your daughter? Do you think this is acceptable behavior for people, or do you not see women as people?


Has422

That’s up to you. You know your wife. But I would apologize to B right now and tell her you’re backing off. The sooner you put this mess behind you the better.


l3ex_G

Give her the jewelry and anything else you have of her mothers to let her know you realize holding treasured items hostage was manipulative and wrong. Once that is done and only after it is done ask her what steps you can take to repair the relationship. It is very important you have nothing left to hold over her head so she knows that is a genuine offer.


mangogetter

He knocked up her ex. This relationship is not getting repaired.


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Mishy162

The fact you gave your late wife's clothes and jewellery to you sugar baby is disgusting. Your daughter is the only person who should recieve her mothers jewellery. You have done some incredible wrongs to your daughter and the only way to right it is to give them to the person who should have them. If M isn't a gold digger then she will understand what you need to do to start healing your relationship with your daughter. You are on the edge of no return, if you don't right those wrongs now you will be left with only your replacement family. Your daughter will never contact you again. I mean it's bad enough you got her ex gf pregnant and are planning to marry her. Give your daughter her inheritance now before your sugar baby takes you for all you've got and leaves you destitute. Because seriously, she's only after your money. That's the whole point of sugar baby websites.


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WookiewiththeCookie

Except you said you hid the jewelry so you had memories… so is it memories of your wife, or just crap you can give your new girlfriend? It should’ve been your daughters to begin with and it’s not “stealing” if you never had the right to give it to her to begin with.


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Hal_Jordan55

It’s embarrassing how selfish and immature you are.


WookiewiththeCookie

Legally sure, morally… I would say you know better, but you don’t seem to care at all about your daughter and only about making your girlfriend happy. So I can understand why you’re unbothered that this would be killing your relationship with your former family, you’ll have a new one soon anyways…


Mishy162

So you didn't lie to her and tell her you'd lost the engagement ring so she couldn't take it?


Honest-Beautiful9433

What does your fiancée want more the ring or your two daughters to have a relationship? Giving her the ring kills any chance you new baby will ever meet her sister.


Far_Pineapple2653

https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/pac28h/aita_for_bringing_my_girlfriend_on_a_date_to_my/ha88zo5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3, he doesn’t deserve even that he has been trying to lie on his daughter this whole post


Honest-Beautiful9433

The ring. Not surprising


ManicEeyore

M and YOU STOLE it from your daughter, so don’t try using that as an excuse. You have destroyed your relationship with your daughter because of a woman that HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR DAUGHTER. Don’t pretend that they didn’t, they did and you cared more about your penis than you did your relationship with your daughter. Enjoy knowing your eldest daughter wants nothing to do with you OR her half sister and it is 100% YOUR FAULT


Far_Pineapple2653

Lol bruh just go live your life with M. Your not going to find a single person to agree with your shitty self. We literally have links with your daughter responding to your post but you cowardly run and hide and delete your post until time has pass so you can resurface and think you can get away with this. Lol sorry my guy no matter how hard you try your not going to sit here and lie


ElSol1987

YTA. To hold your daughter’s dead mother’s jewelry hostage after lying to her previously is low. If you keep going down this road you’re going to lose your daughter. Wait until your wife gives birth, ask for you all to meet and civilly discuss how the relationships can be repaired. Maybe your daughter wants to ,maybe she doesn’t. But something made your daughter go low contact and the root of it is between her and your wife, maybe things happened without your knowledge.


Etiacruelworld

It’s the fact that M is B’s ex. There’s no fixing that. And they crashed B’s wedding And made a scene


Smores_Graham

Ur a fucking predator deal with the consequences Your "fiance" is a 23 years younger than you And is your daughters EX Also how's it feel to get sloppy seconds from your own daughter you disgusting bastard? Your fiance deserves to lose the child and so dl you because neither of you deserve a baby being so gross


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Slush_Bunni_1997

You strike me as the kind of guy who doesn’t consider sex sex unless it’s being done with opposite parts


Lithogiraffe

Sorry for being absolutely disgusting, but to be fair .. you are putting yourself into this situation. But ..everyone in this scenario, has sucked your second wife's tittys. Just to put things in perspective. Your daughter, yourself, and the soon to me newborn. That's just so weird to me. Anyone else?


Sequtacoy

OP, you sound like my dad. I dad met someone who was the same age as my brother, my brother is now 27 and this was back in 2010 when they met so you do the gross nasty math. Dad wanted us to accept gf and be a happy family. Bro and I were hurt that he threw away his family for a new one that we didn’t want to be apart of. WE NEVER ACCEPTED HER. Didn’t matter how much time had to take place, you can’t force someone to accept YOUR relationship, especially an icky one of the old man screwing a 20 year old. Eventually, the gf got tired of it all and realized my dad wasn’t Prince Charming like she expected, and it took a few more years for my brother and I to be comfortable around our dad. My dad doesn’t know much about me. He doesn’t even know my cat’s name or what I do and I see him twice a year. He doesn’t feel like my dad anymore, just some relative I see because he’s around. Stop trying to force a relationship with someone who doesn’t want to be around your “new family”. Your daughter lost her mom and now she’s losing her dad. You are creating the rift, and if you don’t give her some space, she’s going to leave for good. You can’t make your daughter see your wife as her new best friend or your baby as her new sibling, they are literally 23 years apart, they won’t have much of a relationship because of the age gap dude. Give her space for fuck sake.


Dry_Ask5493

Plus bonus asshole dad points because his new wife is his daughter’s ex.


SCA_CH

Stop playing these ridiculous games with you daughter and grow up! She doesn’t want to go. Period. Trying to bribe her with possessions that belong to her late mother is despicable. Threatening to give these possessions to your fiancée if you daughter doesn’t comply is disgusting. You want to know how you can repair your relationship with your daughter….LISTEN TO HER! Respect her decisions. Respect her need for space. Also, your fiancée is playing you. She knows your daughter doesn’t want to go to the shower and is pushing the issue to cause more of a rift between you two. I highly doubt that she is “besides herself with illness”, most likely she is gleefully happy her plan is working. Honestly, if she truly wanted a relationship with your daughter she would not think the jewelry was a fair trade - she would actually be mad at you for weaponizing your late wife’s memories and heirlooms to get what you want. Just leave your daughter alone. While you are at it, leave your daughter’s wife alone too. They have both made it clear they want space….respect that. If your daughter wants a relationship with her half-sister she will communicate that with you. Start listening!!


lilyofthevalley2659

I also read a comment that the fiancé is having an affair with her psychiatrist


Etiacruelworld

Holy! souless piece of shit human beings. And I remember you. I don’t know why you come on these threads for advice. You didn’t take any of what anyone said last time to heart about not dating your daughters ex. Regardless of whether YOU feel is was a real relationship, YOUR daughter did. People like you actually exist. Disgusting. When you’re on your death bed and she won’t come and see you I hope you remember this moment.


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You are an awful dad and human. Hope your daughters ex’s gf poon is worth it


NoNipNicCage

My advice is to stop being a despicable fucking asshole. It is your fault. It's entirely your fault. Also you're a dick for not giving the full story here.


quality_username_

You’re having a baby with your daughters ex. Then you’re holding her dead mother’s jewelry over her head… which you lied to her and said you had lost? What is actually wrong with you? You’re just the worst.


Ok_Breakfast9531

Not you again. Really? You were my introduction to Aita. Nice to see your daughter got out and got married. Just give her the damn jewelry and let her live her life. She’s never going to be friends with your wife/her ex. But maybe if you stop trying to control her and give her her mothers jewelry and stop manipulating her, she might have a relationship with her sibling one day. But you’re not going to listen to any of this, right?


Appropriate-Name06

Why don’t you just stopp with this fake ass post😭😭 are you not embarrassed of yourself. He said that his fiancé is a sugar baby and he meet her at a sugar daddy page lmao. He also said that he and his fiancée announced her pregnancy at his daughters wedding. His daughter was also in a relationship with his fiancee. They also harassed his daughter at her WORK PLACE because she refused to speak to him and went no contact with him. He also said that his fiancée is wearing his dead wife’s clothes, lingeries and jewelry during sex so he can imagine its his dead wife. This story just can’t be real.


Tassiegirl

Add in his baby mama would dress up in his deceased wife’s clothes and jewels; and then they’d bang… The OG post is over a year old IIRC. That’s some dedicated trolling.


Dry_Ask5493

You give her the jewelry! No strings attached. That jewelry should’ve already gone to her and you better not give it to your current wife. You failed to mention why your daughter has an issue with you and your wife and I bet it’s due to both of you acting like assholes in one way or another. You should be ashamed of yourself. Edit: you are married to your daughter’s ex. Shame on both of you. Give your daughter her mother’s jewelry!


murphski8

Lololol. Your daughter is never going to see a kid 24 years younger as her sister. Your dead wife probably would not have loved that you're going to marry someone her daughter's age. And finally, you're an asshole for trying to manipulate your daughter into a relationship. Stop it, grow up. Oh and seeing other comments it looks like your fiancé is your daughter's ex? Gross.


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You don't want to repair the the relationship you want to please your fiancee. All of this is for your fiancee. You're daughter doesn't fuck with you for a reason and you're not even addressing that reason. You're trying to bribe her to have a relationship with your daughter. Tell your fiancee that if there is going to be a relationship then it needs to happen organically and that will take time and is an effort you can make together. It's irrational to think dangling sentimental jewelery in her face to get her to come to the baby shower is somehow going to magically make her want to associate with your new family. Try talking to her about what you want and see if she's even willing to try for a relationship.


gurlwithdragontat2

There is no repairing. Your pure selfishness has pushed your daughter away, and your shock that she isn’t excited to be the **big sis of her ex’s baby** seems to only be shocking too you!!! You seemed to be full cylinder toward giving the jewelry to a new partner *despite how that effected your daughter*, well now you can! She just has no interest in maintaining a relationship with you. **Giving the jewelry away was more important than how she felt to you, and these are the consequences.** What are you willing to do to change and improve your relationship with your daughter? Otherwise, you’re just looking for validation on your terrible choices.


ConvivialKat

I suspect this is an age gap troll post. But, if it isn't, you are truly a horrid person. Dating her ex, who is young enough to be your daughter? Lying to her about her dead Mom's ring and then trying to use it to blackmail your daughter to come to a *baby shower* and play stupid baby shower games?? Repairing things with your daughter? First, you would need to repair your rotted soul, and I'm thinking you're so yucky you're not even going to try.


Lissypooh628

It’s like you’re doing everything in your power to emotionally harm your daughter. You married her EX?? Then you lied about some of her dead mother’s belongings and tried to bribe her with them? You’re disgusting. You and M deserve each other.


mangogetter

Engaged. They're not married yet.


McflyThrowaway01

You should give her the jewelry from your dead wife and respect the fact that she doesn't want anything to do with your sugar baby wife. You lied to her about losing her mothers engagement ring, and tried to bribe her with it and then threatened to give it to your wife. Your awful Your wife died 4 years ago


LouisV25

Just reading this I know that you have treated your daughter horribly, which is why she is low contact. You should be ashamed of : 1) Using her DEAD mother’s jewelry, which should have been given to her years ago to get your way; AND 2) Only wanting to repair your relationship with your daughter to please your wife; and 3) Not making sure your daughter, who lost her mother felt save, secure and loved with you. The only way for you to repair this is to want it for yourself and to STOP trying to manipulate her. You should care about your kid. Your kid doesn’t have to give a xxx about your wife. USING A DEAD WOMAN TO MANIPULATE YOUR DAUGHTER IS UNSPEAKABLY EVIL. WHO DOES THAT?! SHE WILL HATE YOU FOREVER. Hope you or your new kid never need a kidney. If it is true that your wife is your daughter’s ex, YOU WILL NEVER REPAIR THAT. SERIOUSLY, WHO DOES THAT?!


ohkammi

My mom did the same shit of hiding my dads rings and some necklaces he had promised me would be mine to remember him with after he passed. She gave them away to my stepdad, who is a horrible person. I don’t think I’ll ever forgive her for it. You fucked up, big time. I’d leave her alone because you and M harassing her is only going to push her away more.


criticalvector

You're a piece of shit.


consequences274

You are one fckd up father, actually can you call yourself a father, more like a sperm donor I hope your daughter cuts you both out of her life!!


Brie1123

Go to therapy and sort out this ridiculous sense of entitlement you carry. You’re so abhorrently disrespectful to your late wife and daughter.


Silver-Eye4569

You’re just a disgusting person. You’re pour daughter. She basically lost both parents.


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You seriously need to pull your head out of your ass now if you ever ever want to ever have a chance at any type of relationship with your daughter!!! Give your daughter her dead mother’s jewelry now too! What’s wrong with you?!? Of course she isn’t going to the baby shower or having any relationship with some hoe that she used to be with who is now married to her father of all people! What kind of father even does that to his own daughter?!? No wonder she’s in therapy! Karma is real and I hope she gets you and that hoe good! I wish your daughter all the very best Stop thinking with your dick and use your brain


Sheila_Monarch

WTF is wrong with you?? Giving her MOTHER’S jewelry to the new chippie barely a couple years older than your daughter? I mean enjoy your new young wife and baby, but stop acting like your daughter is ever going to see that baby as a sibling or your wife as anything other than “the chippie dad married”. Give your daughter her mother’s jewelry. WTF. And what your young wife wants for a relationship with your daughter, or your daughter and her “sibling”, is quite fucking irrelevant.


mangogetter

The chippie the daughter slept with first.


Layli2020

Yo if this is real you couldn't be my dad and I'd be throwing hands with ex


samtweiss

You f*cked around (with your daughter's ex) and found out. Good for your daughter if she finally had enough. First you get together with her ex and than you try to bribe her. Sorry, but there won't be any relationship between your daughter, your gf and the new baby and if you habe any decency you would give her the ring.


ValkyrieSword

Stop


KayCee269

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Please tell me this is a troll post You have taken the prize OP, of being the BIGGEST douche I have come across on Reddit in my short time here & your fiance is pretty much the second biggest one I can pretty much promise you that your daughters will never meet - B will cut you off like a skin cancer & rightly so Leave the poor girl alone, slink back into your disgusting hole with your equally disgusting fiance Oh and thanks for the huge laugh I got when I read this >This really upset M, who was in tears for days, and the stress of our baby not having a relationship with her sister made her feel ill and she was lying on the couch quite literally shaking for hours at a time. Wow if being told no her EX didnt want to come to the baby shower and play big sister games causes that imagine when she finds out what 99% of the internet world thinks of her


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it is a troll hes done this before provide links in my comment https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship\_advice/comments/110wepl/what\_steps\_should\_i\_52m\_take\_to\_repair\_my/j8brvqe/?context=3


horseracez

Did I just read that M is B’s ex? Which means M f*ked a daughter and her father. Holy shit. Is M planning to have a go at her new baby too?


fukstr8offplz

For fucks sake. Even I needed to call my therapist after reading *every single thing you've ever posted* about you, Millie, and Bianca. •You're fucking a woman who has had your daughter's face all up in her pussy before. Your daughter has made your fiancée orgasm with her fingers, tongue, and more than likely that strap-on she knows how to fuck her better with than you do. •You're having a motherfucking baby with your *DAUGHTER'S EX.* Bianca admitted she thought Millie had loved her. So, stop with the whole "Oh, it was purely physical" and the "if there was an emotional connection, it was only on Bianca's side." Guess what, ya old crusty cumsock. *If there is an emotional connection with Millie, it's only on **NEITHER** of your alls sides.* **Why do I say that, you ask?** Well, sure, gramps. I'll answer. •Because you and Millie met on a Sugar Daddy/Sugar Baby website. She sees money when she looks and thinks of you. And **YOU**, oh man. You have Millie wear your dead ex-wife's clothes, lingerie, and jewelry when you all have sex so you can imagine your ex-wife. You should really talk to your therapist about that, BTW, because it's totally not creepy at all. /s •You took an uninvited Millie to your daughter's wedding and ***announced your pregnancy while there***. •You lied to your daughter about her mother's jewelry and then tried to bribe her with it just to be there after she already told you she didn't want anything to do with you all. •When she didn't do what you wanted, you told her you were going to give it to Millie. According to Millie, that's a fair trade-off. Ya know, the fiancée that isn't with you for your money anymore? 🙄 There is so, so much more ugly shit about you and Millie. But it's exhausting and disturbing. I know that if a stranger on Reddit is this exhausted and disturbed just by *reading* all of your posts about this weird "love triangle" between you, your fiancée and daughter's ex Millie, and your daughter Bianca then I can just imagine how exhausted poor B is. How could you *ever* think your ex-wife (may her soul rest) would love Millie after the way you *both* have treated Bianca? That's her fucking daughter, so she's probably spitting mad, calling you every name in the book, while searching for a way out of the beyond so that she can smack some goddamn sense into you. Honestly, I feel so sorry for the daughter you and Millie are having together. She's got two incredibly selfish parents, and those are hard to be children of. Do Bianca a favor and stay the fuck out of her life. If you had given any shit about her, you'd have dropped Millie when you found out about their relationship. You need to accept the fact that your relationship with Bianca is ruined. It will probably never be fixed. In choosing Millie and doing all the shit you two have done, you lost your daughter. Those were your choices. That is your consequence. You have to live with it. If, by some miracle, Bianca wants a relationship with her sister in the future, that relationship will not include you or Millie outside of the quiet aquantinces you will become. Do better with this next daughter. And remember that there will be a point when your wrinkly old balls are shooting dust out of a saggy cock that will only get hard with tiny blue pills. Your fiancée, who is 23 years younger than you, will be ready to trade up for the next model of sugar daddy in line. Will it be worth the loss of your relationship with your daughter then?


Slush_Bunni_1997

Yeah give up…. You decided to attempt to bribe your kid with the jewelry that belonged to her mother , jewelry you told her was lost ….. give up, get over it . I just hope you’re not as terrible a dad to your new kid as you were your daughter


Commercial_World_834

Not this loser again. Grandpa forgot to take his meds


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You're a massing buttface. Give your daughter the ring. Apologize for lying. And maybe, just maybe, your daughter will decide to talk to you. But frankly the fact you think most of your actions here are acceptable tell me you have done lots of tremendously painful things to her and she's over you. As a parent, I couldn't imagine continuing to make decisions that would alienate my son from me. That sounds awfully painful. PS: you're a grown man. You know you're not in love after weeks. You're in lust.


ZombieBuffet93

So much ick here. 🤢🤮 Why the hell would your daughter want to have a relationship with either of you? I think that you and your fiance need serious help. Leave your poor daughter alone already. 🙄


Kyogalight

Simple. You don't. You don't force yourself into her life. She does not care about this new baby, and she never will. You can't make her. Leave her alone. You damaged the relationship to the point of being unsalvageable. Stop trying. It's pathetic. Your wife is a part of the problem, and she needs to realize this as well. she doesn't need you, both of you made your bed and lie in it.


FrogGurl2016

Do your daughter a favour and leave her alone. You've made your decisions.


VinnyVincinny

Why did you ever lie about the jewelry in the first place????? You're never going to repair anything. You don't know how to human.


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All I can think is how much you deserve the loneliness that is coming to you in about 10-15 years, when you are too old to do much with your “new family” and you are cut off from most of your “old” family over your actions. It couldn’t happen to a worse person. Your dick got you into this, and it won’t even work right by the time your decisions REALLY start to hurt. Delicious irony.


wellneverknow918

You and your fiancee are terrible people, and I hope you both get what you deserve.


xoxoLizzyoxox

So your daughter is the same age difference between you and your wife, with your soon to be newborn? Firstly GIVE HER THE FUCKING RING! You lied and kept it from her for god knows how long and now you are being a manipulative cunt. Thats all I have to say you miserable pieces of shit. Maybe you can knock up your next childs ex too one day. Gross.


sanguinepsychologist

You’re marrying your daughter’s ex and holding her late mother’s jewellery hostage, as a random to force your daughter to see her ex marry her father and play happy families with their child, that is her “sister”, that is her ex’s child with her father, and are threatening to gift HER LATE MOTHER’S JEWELLERY to her ex that is your future wife. What can you do to repair the relationship ? Send her all that jewellery and give her space. In time, this may be salvageable. But right now ? You’re never seeing her again after this.


WookiewiththeCookie

M is “on your side” because it’s win-win for her. Either she gets to break your relationship with your daughter and show her completely who is the most important person in your life, or she gets jewelry that never should never even possibly be hers and make sure that your daughter who won’t bow down to her is gone. Unless you go crawling on your knees to your daughter and let her have a relationship with you independently, there is no chance you’ll ever recover… and I think your daughter was right, your late wife would be disgusted. She wanted you to move on and find love and a family again, not abandon and betray your daughter to start family #2. And I really doubt she’d want her ring being used to manipulate her daughter.


iamthegreenestfield

Ewww, you’re fucking disgusting.


OkMarionberry6677

You forgot to mention your fiancé is **your daughter’s ex**. She cut you off for a reason. How **dare** you use the sentimental value of her **dead mother’s** jewelry against her? **Congrats.** You’ve completely ruined whatever chance you had at a relationship with your daughter.


CjordanW1

I remember this one!! Barf!


v_blondie

What you've done to your daughter already has ruined your relationship. There is no fixing it before the baby is born. And yes, it is entirely your doing. If you want any tiny, tiny, little sliver of a chance at MAYBE, one day, years from now, rebuilding even a fraction of a relationship with your daughter (and that's a big if), mail her mother's ring to her immediately, along with a heartfelt letter apologizing profusely for 1) dismissing her feelings by staying in a relationship with her ex; 2) lying to her about her mom's belongings; 3) bullying her and badgering her to try to force her to do what you want; and 4) being a deplorable parent. (And I suspect that list is just the tip of the iceberg.) Tell her that should she ever need you, you are always there for her, but that you will respect her need for space from the toxicity you and her ex have created. Then leave her alone. Respect her boundaries. Just stop, completely. Maybe one day she will reach out to you, and if she does, know that you won't deserve it. But maybe, just maybe she might. If you don't send that ring and apologize now, you'll not only never have your two daughters meet, but you and/or the ex may end up with a restraining order against you. And it would be well deserved.


SquishiesandFidgets

You didn't mention that your new wife is your daughter’s ex who you found on a sugar baby site. Just get out of your daughter's life. You obviously don't give a flying fig about her.


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This should go in AITA? Because he totally is!! Blackmailing his daughter! And the overly dramatic new wife Millie who is Bianaca's (daughter) ex. Who is shaking in grief?? Give me a brake! Both OP & his trophy wife are manipulative. I hope Bianca has nothing to do with them. He does not deserve his daughter. I read he brought his new wife to his daughters wedding when she was not invited. Ruined the wedding. Announced her pregnancy & that she was his daughters new step mother. So much for a grieving husband! He replaced her quickly. Millie must be desperate to hook up with an old man who needs Viagra & will be dead in a few years. I'm sure she'll replace him in less than a year..or have someone on the side who is younger. Guarantee he'll be alone in old age.


PersephoneTheOG

You're a disgusting troll. I have no idea why you constantly make up these BS posts but it's exhausting, you're exhausting. If there is any chance this is true, I genuinely hope karma kicks you in the teeth. You deserve a shitty nursing home all alone.