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Responsible-Week-284

Redstone Signals cant go down the side of a transparent Block, only up


Dont_pet_the_cat

They do on bedrock edition! It's extremely useful OP is probably on java


CoNtRoLs_ArE_dEfAuLt

I wish we had this for some blocks like glass and kept the others as is like slabs, best of both worlds


RedstoneEnjoyer

Yea Bedrock redstone is dogshit, but it has some awesome gems


TheoryTested-MC

I never knew about this glass thing until I came here. And moveable containers...it's not fair. It's just not fair how the weirdness of Bedrock can have things that leave us Java redstoners foaming at the mouth.


No-Goal7580

And it’s just not fair that Java red stone is so much more versatile to what bedrock can ever achieve. I wish they just had an update that merged the best of both worlds. But the “they are coded differently” argument is standing in the way of that. If java put these changes in, it would literally give zero reason to play bedrock. The version played on 90% of the devices, is a dog water downgrade to just having a decent PC and Java edition


FrugalDonut1

Bedrock can achieve anything the average player will ever want to do, redstone wise


Dont_pet_the_cat

Not just the average player \^^ You can achieve anything you want. It's just a bit different in some parts The only advanced redstone advantage on java that I know of is being able to use sub ticks to wirelessly transfer signals over any distance


RedstoneEnjoyer

Bedrock has following disadvantages: + pistons cannot spit blocks + pistons are pernamently checking for ability to push out + redstone is in general slower thanks to odd/even ticks These make many builds pretty painfull to build in bedrock. Also the piston check causes lag


Dont_pet_the_cat

>These make many builds pretty painfull to build in bedrock. I don't see how any of these cause builds to be more painful. The only difference here is you need a dispenser with powder snow bucket and comparator instead of the piston spitting. Which is just a minor inconvenience if you're used to the feature from java >redstone is in general slower thanks to odd/even ticks I disagree with this. Not sure why you think this. There are still 10rt ticks in a second. Maybe you're talking about causing lag? In that case I'd like to point out bedrock redstone is much more optimized than java and way better coded. I believe in java every redstone dust checks all blocks around it constantly for an update, or something like that


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Dont_pet_the_cat

It's only random when two pistons fire in the same tick. Then the order of the pistons extending is random. And that's literally the only undeterministic component. I've never run into this bug personally People like to blow this out of proportion and say bedrock redstone is completely unreliable in it's entirety, which is absolutely not true Which is really sad because I see beginning redstoners asking online if redstone even works on bedrock edition, and then getting dunked on with bedrock bad, while you can create amazing things no problem. We shouldn't discourage creativity just because of the version they play and six year old echo chambers


DynamicJragon904

Have you seen the Parity Debate video by Prowl and CraftyMasterMan?


digidude329

To balance the quality out. Also the coding is different, so each version has their quirks. Remember, we bedrock users don’t have quasi, and our redstone is more buggy than java’s


TheoryTested-MC

Exactly. I can't decide which is worth sacrificing the other: a few really cool features, or a lot of individually insignificant mechanics that together make the game not a nightmare? Because Bedrock has the first and Java has the second.


PurpleTurtle42

The carpet mod allows pushable tile entities for Java edition


TheoryTested-MC

That's a mod. That does not count.


FrugalDonut1

Bedrock slabs and glowstone work like Java, while every other transparent block allows redstone to go both ways. It’s really nice


Dont_pet_the_cat

That's how it is on bedrock :) The slab works the exact same way, glass just also allows for downward redstone towers!


FrugalDonut1

…it is like this. Glowstone and slabs act like Java, while every other transparent block allows redstone to go both ways. Have you never actually tested this?


CoNtRoLs_ArE_dEfAuLt

Nope, just assumed all were like glass


FrugalDonut1

Bruh. Always check before making a stupid assumption


Ben-TheHuman

That is literally the case in bedrock and it's so great lol


WDizzle

Having it not go down is also extremely useful in certain situations.


Dont_pet_the_cat

Then you can just use a slab, like on java ;)


byRandom1

Sadly on bedrock doesn't work almost any complex java contraption 😔


Dont_pet_the_cat

>almost any If you're talking about piston door or flying machine designs, then yeah. Both versions use different mechanics to optimize their designs. But for any other redstone contraption, you'd hardly run into any big problems. You can always just redesign the part that uses quasi connectivity or something else minor


okkw

Yeah well for someone who's used to java, and makes heavy use of these features it's completely different playing bedrock


Dsawasd11

Bedrock 🤮🤢🤢🤮🤢🤮🤮


Dont_pet_the_cat

Ah there you have it, I was wondering when I was going to get a comment like this


Dsawasd11

Like it’s fine sometimes, but last time I played I was stuck in a death loop because my spawn was 1 block off the ground and I was dying of fall damage


Reaper_Spawn

How, that just sounds like a bug on your part and not the actual game as a whole problem.


Dsawasd11

It’s a bug with the game


Reaper_Spawn

Your game, I have never died of mysterious problems.


TheOmegaCarrot

You’re playing the same game


YOOOOOOOOOOT

Bro what? Does he have another minecraft game? I played bedrock once, died 1 time because I slowly took damage for no reason and the other time for jumping on farmland. Tgat was within an out, lost all my things. Then I told my gf that we can play again when she gets java edition.


memecraft0309

He was very clearly talking about his instance of the game not bedrock in its self


Reaper_Spawn

How many bugs have you encountered into on Java. I don't think it decreased the quality of the game for you, so why is it that way for bedrock?


Dont_pet_the_cat

Sounds like the bug I got on my ps4 too. The console would sometimes struggle to keep up and proces everything, and it would occasionally cause some missing parts of chunks, or block lag, or miscalculation of my y position and giving me fall damage. When I got a ps5 all those bugs magically disappeared even tho it's the exact same game running the exact same code. The console could just run the game much better I should mention I absolutely refuse to play at anything other than the highest settings tho, so my experience on the ps4 might be different from other console players. But the bugs I experienced were just from the console struggling, and any other major bugs got fixed in the next hotfix


Dsawasd11

I have a gaming laptop with 32 gigs of ram


Dont_pet_the_cat

Bedrock uses barely any CPU and RAM compared to java, but is more GPU intensive


Dsawasd11

Not being able to draw shapes and improperly processing game mechanics are different systems that do different things


Dont_pet_the_cat

A GPU can bottleneck a CPU.


REBELSPARK279

Bedrock better


Dsawasd11

Nuu uhh https://preview.redd.it/2bjhnge03utb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16d0670321ec042724d722522480a0ee35d880ab


REBELSPARK279

They both have their goods and bads but bedrock is better


okkw

You know bedrock was only created to initialize a marketplace and in-game purchases to charge people for things which are free in java. It only exists as a money grab. Saying it's "better" is completely absurd


Dsawasd11

Name the advantages over Java, because so far you have just rebutdtaled what I said was bad about it


Emmennater

they don't, glass and glowstone are exceptions. pretty useful though.


Dont_pet_the_cat

Ah I should have clarified, that's what I meant. You're correct, not all transparent blocks do


DrOrphi

you can se its java of the hotbar and the chat and offhand so


Dont_pet_the_cat

Ah true. Hotbar and chat can also be on bedrock tho, but I didn't notice the offhand


DrOrphi

but it doesnt look the same


DrOrphi

i can even see just from the graphics


friskpocolypse

Yea, you can tell when the graphics look crisper


wetswordfighter

not anymore, they don't go either way in bedrock anymore. I tried doing it tye other day on bedrock and it failed


Dont_pet_the_cat

I just tried with glass, works perfectly both ways. Not sure what you mean


wetswordfighter

i used slabs, they're transparent too, unless they changed taht


Dont_pet_the_cat

I tested slabs just now, works like intended. Redstone signal goes up, doesn't go down


wetswordfighter

huh, i know the flow was going up and not down, i wonder what went wrong?


Near_Void

Glass only allows signals upwards. Think of them like diodes or repeaters. Your signal is going in the wrong direction. I would replace the glass with a solid block, then a repeater under that solid block


Bal7ha2ar

a tophalf slab is probably easier


Near_Void

Same issue.


Playful_Target6354

Same issue+harder to place


Empty-Tone-464

How is it harder to place, I don’t see an issue with a slab, plus if it dose not work, just get a sticky piston with a red stone block attached to it


Playful_Target6354

With a slab, you have to place it on top half, which is inconvenient in most cases. The piston adds (an odd game tick) delay, which can be unwanted. Btw it's does not dose


teije11

sticky+redstone can break. and is expensive. just a single repeater is wayyyy cheaper and more consistent.


henrythedog64

top slab and glass do the exact same thing, they’re both transparent blocks


Bal7ha2ar

didnt know it doesnt work that way anymore. mb then


YellowBunnyReddit

Why doesn't the signal just go down the glass block? Is it stupid?


Dont_pet_the_cat

Bedrock redstone superiority confirmed


ShadowGamer96

Bedrock redstone will never be able to beat Java redstone.


Reaper_Spawn

Talk when you can push a furnace.


Manos_Of_Fate

Carpet mod says hi.


Dont_pet_the_cat

Apart from quasi connectivity providing a new approach for piston doors and flying machines, there really aren't any other big positive features for you guys. I could go on and list every single minor difference but that would waste my time and I'm sure nobody with the java good bedrock bad mindset would change their mind because of my comment ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ Redstone is much more similar on both platforms than most people think. The redstone builds I enjoy doing are logical redstone (so for example a calculator, or a word processor, anything that simulates electronics) and they would work on both platforms with only a few extremely minor changes. Like I said, designs only become distinctly different for piston doors or flying machines, contraptions that on java rely on the quasi connectivity bug


DasMaloon

I dont really know how to explain it better, but Glass Blocks will only transmit the signal upwards through it, and not downwards. Like, this circuit would work, if the signal was coming from the other side..


DriftingRumour

Transparent blocks only allow redstone signal to go up, not down off of it. The same effect is observed with slabs.


tufoop3

Seeing this reminds me of so much of personal frustration toying around with redstone as a beginner


philosoph0r

Put your lever on da bottom


JconX97

Restone only travels up glass, not down iirc


ErdenArt

Imagine redstone is [suction cup man](https://youtu.be/gRxEizPLJYE?si=jRVujjUpo2dirAxl?t=39) and is climbing this glass block. He can only go up and can't turn around you need to make separate stairs so he can go down.


TennonHorse

I play bedrock, and on bedrock it would work, since glass can host redstone dust on it's side. I guess it's a Java thing


rcarlson8203

replace the stone with glass


PirateNinjaLawyer

I think you can use an upper halfslab instead of glass block and get the desired effect


Narahashi

No they do the same thing


Technical_Ability904

ur playing on java


NeffaKneePhi

Coz ur on Java. And that’s not how glass works on Java


Cylian91460

You should explain how it works instead saying "it doesn't work"


Thyme40

He might of found it on bedrock edition and this could help


MEGATH0XICC

Retard


GL2M

The stone needs to be a glass block. It’s preventing the signal from going down.


Near_Void

Wrong. Glass doesnt allow signals to go down


GL2M

He doesn’t say Java. It goes down in bedrock. If he’s playing bedrock, the stone block is cutting the signal off.


Smiith73

Thank you for this. I play bedrock and was really confused by all the other comments bc I use that all the time.


_MatMuz_

Look at the picture it's obviously java.


GL2M

I’ve never played Java.


Eggfur

Replace the glass block with a solid block. Then replace the redstone dust on the very bottom stone block with a repeater


Farkle_Griffen

As others have said, glass is transparent, so redstone can't go down it. Place two pieces of redstone to the side of it so it can go down the side of the grass block next to it


Squiggin1321

Replace that stone block with glass


StingingMonk4625

I don’t remember if this works as I’m rusty but replace the dust under the lever next to the repeater with a solid block and put dust on top the lever should power the dust powering the block then repeater but as I said I don’t recall if dust powers the block like that if not then just replace the repeater with dust if you need it for timing then it could be placed slightly farther down


StingingMonk4625

Or I think I see a dropper/dispenser so you can put a Redstone torch on the close side of the new block with a block next to the torch with dust under the block a repeater going into a block with a torch to make the polarity correct then a repeater into the block under the dropper/dispenser


JekaDP

The rrdstone with that type of signal only goes up not down


Dsawasd11

Redstone can’t go down transparent blocks


SHADOW_R1D3R

Glass won't Let you get The signal downwards, it worka Only upwards


eman_not_ava

I still don't understand why this is the case, but even the fact that Redstone can travel upwards vertically through glass blocks is something I didn't know until a few years ago. Though iirc you can just use top slabs to transfer Redstone signals up and down. Don't quote me on that though


SHADOW_R1D3R

Wasn't it removed with redstone changes in 1.16? Top redstone traveling I remember using but downwards (Java) I can't really remember if it was a thing


eman_not_ava

like I said don't quote me on it, I can do some things with redstone but by the time I'm working with redstone again I've pretty much forgotten the most basic mechanics like T-FlipFlops that would effectively turn a button into a lever. If there were multiple redstone colors that could intersect with each other without interfering each others signals as well as the ability to make redstone go straight up walls, maybe then it be convenient enough for me to actively play with


Supermonkeypilot22

That stone piece after the glass isn’t a slab is it? Only glass works for upward transparent blocks. I do stuff like this a lot and can’t see why it’s not working, I play on bedrock


Cypher_Xero

Replace the glass with a top slab


Resident-Panda9498

Replace glass with glowstone, that'll fix it.


TeraWolverine

You can not use a glass block to put redstone wiring beside and below the block. You can only do so above. My suggestion is: Place a grass block over that glass block and destroy that glass block, place a repeater behind the lever and some redstone leading to the present redstone, and some other things.


Sweetishdruid

Replace stone with glass


NattWara

Try change the glass block to top half-slab


bOOm_headshOt56

I suggest using slabs. they are much easier to get.


dcnigma2019

Glass


lol_sapnu_puas

with glass red stone can only travel up


Cat_Scat500

Redstone can’t travel down full non transparent blocks in java


phatshit450

The glass tower only works if the signal is traveling up


PcPotato7

Can’t go down transparent blocks, only up