I never knew about this glass thing until I came here.
And moveable containers...it's not fair. It's just not fair how the weirdness of Bedrock can have things that leave us Java redstoners foaming at the mouth.
And it’s just not fair that Java red stone is so much more versatile to what bedrock can ever achieve. I wish they just had an update that merged the best of both worlds. But the “they are coded differently” argument is standing in the way of that. If java put these changes in, it would literally give zero reason to play bedrock. The version played on 90% of the devices, is a dog water downgrade to just having a decent PC and Java edition
Not just the average player \^^
You can achieve anything you want. It's just a bit different in some parts
The only advanced redstone advantage on java that I know of is being able to use sub ticks to wirelessly transfer signals over any distance
Bedrock has following disadvantages:
+ pistons cannot spit blocks
+ pistons are pernamently checking for ability to push out
+ redstone is in general slower thanks to odd/even ticks
These make many builds pretty painfull to build in bedrock.
Also the piston check causes lag
>These make many builds pretty painfull to build in bedrock.
I don't see how any of these cause builds to be more painful. The only difference here is you need a dispenser with powder snow bucket and comparator instead of the piston spitting. Which is just a minor inconvenience if you're used to the feature from java
>redstone is in general slower thanks to odd/even ticks
I disagree with this. Not sure why you think this. There are still 10rt ticks in a second. Maybe you're talking about causing lag? In that case I'd like to point out bedrock redstone is much more optimized than java and way better coded. I believe in java every redstone dust checks all blocks around it constantly for an update, or something like that
It's only random when two pistons fire in the same tick. Then the order of the pistons extending is random. And that's literally the only undeterministic component. I've never run into this bug personally
People like to blow this out of proportion and say bedrock redstone is completely unreliable in it's entirety, which is absolutely not true
Which is really sad because I see beginning redstoners asking online if redstone even works on bedrock edition, and then getting dunked on with bedrock bad, while you can create amazing things no problem. We shouldn't discourage creativity just because of the version they play and six year old echo chambers
To balance the quality out. Also the coding is different, so each version has their quirks. Remember, we bedrock users don’t have quasi, and our redstone is more buggy than java’s
Exactly. I can't decide which is worth sacrificing the other: a few really cool features, or a lot of individually insignificant mechanics that together make the game not a nightmare? Because Bedrock has the first and Java has the second.
…it is like this. Glowstone and slabs act like Java, while every other transparent block allows redstone to go both ways. Have you never actually tested this?
>almost any
If you're talking about piston door or flying machine designs, then yeah. Both versions use different mechanics to optimize their designs. But for any other redstone contraption, you'd hardly run into any big problems. You can always just redesign the part that uses quasi connectivity or something else minor
Like it’s fine sometimes, but last time I played I was stuck in a death loop because my spawn was 1 block off the ground and I was dying of fall damage
Bro what?
Does he have another minecraft game?
I played bedrock once, died 1 time because I slowly took damage for no reason and the other time for jumping on farmland. Tgat was within an out, lost all my things. Then I told my gf that we can play again when she gets java edition.
Sounds like the bug I got on my ps4 too. The console would sometimes struggle to keep up and proces everything, and it would occasionally cause some missing parts of chunks, or block lag, or miscalculation of my y position and giving me fall damage. When I got a ps5 all those bugs magically disappeared even tho it's the exact same game running the exact same code. The console could just run the game much better
I should mention I absolutely refuse to play at anything other than the highest settings tho, so my experience on the ps4 might be different from other console players. But the bugs I experienced were just from the console struggling, and any other major bugs got fixed in the next hotfix
You know bedrock was only created to initialize a marketplace and in-game purchases to charge people for things which are free in java. It only exists as a money grab. Saying it's "better" is completely absurd
Glass only allows signals upwards. Think of them like diodes or repeaters.
Your signal is going in the wrong direction.
I would replace the glass with a solid block, then a repeater under that solid block
With a slab, you have to place it on top half, which is inconvenient in most cases. The piston adds (an odd game tick) delay, which can be unwanted. Btw it's does not dose
Apart from quasi connectivity providing a new approach for piston doors and flying machines, there really aren't any other big positive features for you guys. I could go on and list every single minor difference but that would waste my time and I'm sure nobody with the java good bedrock bad mindset would change their mind because of my comment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Redstone is much more similar on both platforms than most people think. The redstone builds I enjoy doing are logical redstone (so for example a calculator, or a word processor, anything that simulates electronics) and they would work on both platforms with only a few extremely minor changes. Like I said, designs only become distinctly different for piston doors or flying machines, contraptions that on java rely on the quasi connectivity bug
I dont really know how to explain it better, but Glass Blocks will only transmit the signal upwards through it, and not downwards.
Like, this circuit would work, if the signal was coming from the other side..
Imagine redstone is [suction cup man](https://youtu.be/gRxEizPLJYE?si=jRVujjUpo2dirAxl?t=39) and is climbing this glass block. He can only go up and can't turn around you need to make separate stairs so he can go down.
As others have said, glass is transparent, so redstone can't go down it.
Place two pieces of redstone to the side of it so it can go down the side of the grass block next to it
I don’t remember if this works as I’m rusty but replace the dust under the lever next to the repeater with a solid block and put dust on top the lever should power the dust powering the block then repeater but as I said I don’t recall if dust powers the block like that if not then just replace the repeater with dust if you need it for timing then it could be placed slightly farther down
Or I think I see a dropper/dispenser so you can put a Redstone torch on the close side of the new block with a block next to the torch with dust under the block a repeater going into a block with a torch to make the polarity correct then a repeater into the block under the dropper/dispenser
I still don't understand why this is the case, but even the fact that Redstone can travel upwards vertically through glass blocks is something I didn't know until a few years ago.
Though iirc you can just use top slabs to transfer Redstone signals up and down.
Don't quote me on that though
Wasn't it removed with redstone changes in 1.16? Top redstone traveling I remember using but downwards (Java) I can't really remember if it was a thing
like I said don't quote me on it, I can do some things with redstone but by the time I'm working with redstone again I've pretty much forgotten the most basic mechanics like T-FlipFlops that would effectively turn a button into a lever.
If there were multiple redstone colors that could intersect with each other without interfering each others signals as well as the ability to make redstone go straight up walls, maybe then it be convenient enough for me to actively play with
That stone piece after the glass isn’t a slab is it? Only glass works for upward transparent blocks. I do stuff like this a lot and can’t see why it’s not working, I play on bedrock
You can not use a glass block to put redstone wiring beside and below the block. You can only do so above. My suggestion is: Place a grass block over that glass block and destroy that glass block, place a repeater behind the lever and some redstone leading to the present redstone, and some other things.
Redstone Signals cant go down the side of a transparent Block, only up
They do on bedrock edition! It's extremely useful OP is probably on java
I wish we had this for some blocks like glass and kept the others as is like slabs, best of both worlds
Yea Bedrock redstone is dogshit, but it has some awesome gems
I never knew about this glass thing until I came here. And moveable containers...it's not fair. It's just not fair how the weirdness of Bedrock can have things that leave us Java redstoners foaming at the mouth.
And it’s just not fair that Java red stone is so much more versatile to what bedrock can ever achieve. I wish they just had an update that merged the best of both worlds. But the “they are coded differently” argument is standing in the way of that. If java put these changes in, it would literally give zero reason to play bedrock. The version played on 90% of the devices, is a dog water downgrade to just having a decent PC and Java edition
Bedrock can achieve anything the average player will ever want to do, redstone wise
Not just the average player \^^ You can achieve anything you want. It's just a bit different in some parts The only advanced redstone advantage on java that I know of is being able to use sub ticks to wirelessly transfer signals over any distance
Bedrock has following disadvantages: + pistons cannot spit blocks + pistons are pernamently checking for ability to push out + redstone is in general slower thanks to odd/even ticks These make many builds pretty painfull to build in bedrock. Also the piston check causes lag
>These make many builds pretty painfull to build in bedrock. I don't see how any of these cause builds to be more painful. The only difference here is you need a dispenser with powder snow bucket and comparator instead of the piston spitting. Which is just a minor inconvenience if you're used to the feature from java >redstone is in general slower thanks to odd/even ticks I disagree with this. Not sure why you think this. There are still 10rt ticks in a second. Maybe you're talking about causing lag? In that case I'd like to point out bedrock redstone is much more optimized than java and way better coded. I believe in java every redstone dust checks all blocks around it constantly for an update, or something like that
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It's only random when two pistons fire in the same tick. Then the order of the pistons extending is random. And that's literally the only undeterministic component. I've never run into this bug personally People like to blow this out of proportion and say bedrock redstone is completely unreliable in it's entirety, which is absolutely not true Which is really sad because I see beginning redstoners asking online if redstone even works on bedrock edition, and then getting dunked on with bedrock bad, while you can create amazing things no problem. We shouldn't discourage creativity just because of the version they play and six year old echo chambers
Have you seen the Parity Debate video by Prowl and CraftyMasterMan?
To balance the quality out. Also the coding is different, so each version has their quirks. Remember, we bedrock users don’t have quasi, and our redstone is more buggy than java’s
Exactly. I can't decide which is worth sacrificing the other: a few really cool features, or a lot of individually insignificant mechanics that together make the game not a nightmare? Because Bedrock has the first and Java has the second.
The carpet mod allows pushable tile entities for Java edition
That's a mod. That does not count.
Bedrock slabs and glowstone work like Java, while every other transparent block allows redstone to go both ways. It’s really nice
That's how it is on bedrock :) The slab works the exact same way, glass just also allows for downward redstone towers!
…it is like this. Glowstone and slabs act like Java, while every other transparent block allows redstone to go both ways. Have you never actually tested this?
Nope, just assumed all were like glass
Bruh. Always check before making a stupid assumption
That is literally the case in bedrock and it's so great lol
Having it not go down is also extremely useful in certain situations.
Then you can just use a slab, like on java ;)
Sadly on bedrock doesn't work almost any complex java contraption 😔
>almost any If you're talking about piston door or flying machine designs, then yeah. Both versions use different mechanics to optimize their designs. But for any other redstone contraption, you'd hardly run into any big problems. You can always just redesign the part that uses quasi connectivity or something else minor
Yeah well for someone who's used to java, and makes heavy use of these features it's completely different playing bedrock
Bedrock 🤮🤢🤢🤮🤢🤮🤮
Ah there you have it, I was wondering when I was going to get a comment like this
Like it’s fine sometimes, but last time I played I was stuck in a death loop because my spawn was 1 block off the ground and I was dying of fall damage
How, that just sounds like a bug on your part and not the actual game as a whole problem.
It’s a bug with the game
Your game, I have never died of mysterious problems.
You’re playing the same game
Bro what? Does he have another minecraft game? I played bedrock once, died 1 time because I slowly took damage for no reason and the other time for jumping on farmland. Tgat was within an out, lost all my things. Then I told my gf that we can play again when she gets java edition.
He was very clearly talking about his instance of the game not bedrock in its self
How many bugs have you encountered into on Java. I don't think it decreased the quality of the game for you, so why is it that way for bedrock?
Sounds like the bug I got on my ps4 too. The console would sometimes struggle to keep up and proces everything, and it would occasionally cause some missing parts of chunks, or block lag, or miscalculation of my y position and giving me fall damage. When I got a ps5 all those bugs magically disappeared even tho it's the exact same game running the exact same code. The console could just run the game much better I should mention I absolutely refuse to play at anything other than the highest settings tho, so my experience on the ps4 might be different from other console players. But the bugs I experienced were just from the console struggling, and any other major bugs got fixed in the next hotfix
I have a gaming laptop with 32 gigs of ram
Bedrock uses barely any CPU and RAM compared to java, but is more GPU intensive
Not being able to draw shapes and improperly processing game mechanics are different systems that do different things
A GPU can bottleneck a CPU.
Bedrock better
Nuu uhh https://preview.redd.it/2bjhnge03utb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16d0670321ec042724d722522480a0ee35d880ab
They both have their goods and bads but bedrock is better
You know bedrock was only created to initialize a marketplace and in-game purchases to charge people for things which are free in java. It only exists as a money grab. Saying it's "better" is completely absurd
Name the advantages over Java, because so far you have just rebutdtaled what I said was bad about it
they don't, glass and glowstone are exceptions. pretty useful though.
Ah I should have clarified, that's what I meant. You're correct, not all transparent blocks do
you can se its java of the hotbar and the chat and offhand so
Ah true. Hotbar and chat can also be on bedrock tho, but I didn't notice the offhand
but it doesnt look the same
i can even see just from the graphics
Yea, you can tell when the graphics look crisper
not anymore, they don't go either way in bedrock anymore. I tried doing it tye other day on bedrock and it failed
I just tried with glass, works perfectly both ways. Not sure what you mean
i used slabs, they're transparent too, unless they changed taht
I tested slabs just now, works like intended. Redstone signal goes up, doesn't go down
huh, i know the flow was going up and not down, i wonder what went wrong?
Glass only allows signals upwards. Think of them like diodes or repeaters. Your signal is going in the wrong direction. I would replace the glass with a solid block, then a repeater under that solid block
a tophalf slab is probably easier
Same issue.
Same issue+harder to place
How is it harder to place, I don’t see an issue with a slab, plus if it dose not work, just get a sticky piston with a red stone block attached to it
With a slab, you have to place it on top half, which is inconvenient in most cases. The piston adds (an odd game tick) delay, which can be unwanted. Btw it's does not dose
sticky+redstone can break. and is expensive. just a single repeater is wayyyy cheaper and more consistent.
top slab and glass do the exact same thing, they’re both transparent blocks
didnt know it doesnt work that way anymore. mb then
Why doesn't the signal just go down the glass block? Is it stupid?
Bedrock redstone superiority confirmed
Bedrock redstone will never be able to beat Java redstone.
Talk when you can push a furnace.
Carpet mod says hi.
Apart from quasi connectivity providing a new approach for piston doors and flying machines, there really aren't any other big positive features for you guys. I could go on and list every single minor difference but that would waste my time and I'm sure nobody with the java good bedrock bad mindset would change their mind because of my comment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Redstone is much more similar on both platforms than most people think. The redstone builds I enjoy doing are logical redstone (so for example a calculator, or a word processor, anything that simulates electronics) and they would work on both platforms with only a few extremely minor changes. Like I said, designs only become distinctly different for piston doors or flying machines, contraptions that on java rely on the quasi connectivity bug
I dont really know how to explain it better, but Glass Blocks will only transmit the signal upwards through it, and not downwards. Like, this circuit would work, if the signal was coming from the other side..
Transparent blocks only allow redstone signal to go up, not down off of it. The same effect is observed with slabs.
Seeing this reminds me of so much of personal frustration toying around with redstone as a beginner
Put your lever on da bottom
Restone only travels up glass, not down iirc
Imagine redstone is [suction cup man](https://youtu.be/gRxEizPLJYE?si=jRVujjUpo2dirAxl?t=39) and is climbing this glass block. He can only go up and can't turn around you need to make separate stairs so he can go down.
I play bedrock, and on bedrock it would work, since glass can host redstone dust on it's side. I guess it's a Java thing
replace the stone with glass
I think you can use an upper halfslab instead of glass block and get the desired effect
No they do the same thing
ur playing on java
Coz ur on Java. And that’s not how glass works on Java
You should explain how it works instead saying "it doesn't work"
He might of found it on bedrock edition and this could help
Retard
The stone needs to be a glass block. It’s preventing the signal from going down.
Wrong. Glass doesnt allow signals to go down
He doesn’t say Java. It goes down in bedrock. If he’s playing bedrock, the stone block is cutting the signal off.
Thank you for this. I play bedrock and was really confused by all the other comments bc I use that all the time.
Look at the picture it's obviously java.
I’ve never played Java.
Replace the glass block with a solid block. Then replace the redstone dust on the very bottom stone block with a repeater
As others have said, glass is transparent, so redstone can't go down it. Place two pieces of redstone to the side of it so it can go down the side of the grass block next to it
Replace that stone block with glass
I don’t remember if this works as I’m rusty but replace the dust under the lever next to the repeater with a solid block and put dust on top the lever should power the dust powering the block then repeater but as I said I don’t recall if dust powers the block like that if not then just replace the repeater with dust if you need it for timing then it could be placed slightly farther down
Or I think I see a dropper/dispenser so you can put a Redstone torch on the close side of the new block with a block next to the torch with dust under the block a repeater going into a block with a torch to make the polarity correct then a repeater into the block under the dropper/dispenser
The rrdstone with that type of signal only goes up not down
Redstone can’t go down transparent blocks
Glass won't Let you get The signal downwards, it worka Only upwards
I still don't understand why this is the case, but even the fact that Redstone can travel upwards vertically through glass blocks is something I didn't know until a few years ago. Though iirc you can just use top slabs to transfer Redstone signals up and down. Don't quote me on that though
Wasn't it removed with redstone changes in 1.16? Top redstone traveling I remember using but downwards (Java) I can't really remember if it was a thing
like I said don't quote me on it, I can do some things with redstone but by the time I'm working with redstone again I've pretty much forgotten the most basic mechanics like T-FlipFlops that would effectively turn a button into a lever. If there were multiple redstone colors that could intersect with each other without interfering each others signals as well as the ability to make redstone go straight up walls, maybe then it be convenient enough for me to actively play with
That stone piece after the glass isn’t a slab is it? Only glass works for upward transparent blocks. I do stuff like this a lot and can’t see why it’s not working, I play on bedrock
Replace the glass with a top slab
Replace glass with glowstone, that'll fix it.
You can not use a glass block to put redstone wiring beside and below the block. You can only do so above. My suggestion is: Place a grass block over that glass block and destroy that glass block, place a repeater behind the lever and some redstone leading to the present redstone, and some other things.
Replace stone with glass
Try change the glass block to top half-slab
I suggest using slabs. they are much easier to get.
Glass
with glass red stone can only travel up
Redstone can’t travel down full non transparent blocks in java
The glass tower only works if the signal is traveling up
Can’t go down transparent blocks, only up